[01:42] <teward> sarnold: wrt glue records, can you explain a little bit on what exactly that is...?
[01:45] <teward> i understand the concept... but... :/
[01:45] <teward> well, actually, i think i have a solution... *shrugs*
[01:48] <teward> my more stupid questoin: how can i configure a mailserver to accept relay for aliases from google mailservers or other mailservers outside my network
[01:48] <teward> or should i go and set up a full email server, postfix, etc. and mailman?
[05:42] <jirido> Hi. I have installed vsftpd and want to sighn and validate my clients certificates against my own ca authority. Is it possible?
[07:51] <jak2000> hi all
[07:51] <jak2000> how to ask if a file exists in a bash scripting file?
[07:56] <Sling> [ -f /pathtofile ]
[08:02] <jak2000> i edn a line with a ; ?
[08:02] <jak2000> *end
[08:03] <jak2000> Sling: http://pastie.org/10015639
[08:03] <jak2000> wich is wrong?
[08:05] <Sling> jak2000: google for it :) you are missing a ; indeed
[08:05] <Sling> if [ -f /file ]; then
[08:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:52] <haithar> re
[10:52] <haithar> Got this question yesterday, after some hours when going home I just left the window open, now it's past the window history, can't find where the channel is logged, sorry if someone has answered it :/  ssssooo,
[10:52] <Sling> 21:45:15 < haithar> pmatulis: thanks! About understanding "sponsorship" in this context, do you think comments 16 and 18 suggest that I can contact him and offer money to Oleg / his favourite charity /... to keep pushing it so it gets into trusty?
[10:52] <haithar> Context: I'd like to roll out trusty for our Squid proxy park. There's an open bug in trusty which drops cache hit rate from 80% to 10%. Since I can't reliably code in C and know zero about the Ubuntu bugfixing lifecycle, I'm willing to offer a small amount of $$ for anyone who's willing to push that bug through the pipes so it'd appear in trusty.
[10:52] <haithar> >
[10:52] <Sling> 22:09:03 < pmatulis> haithar: ubuntu development is not a free-for-all.  changes are backported according to certain guidelines.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[10:53] <Sling> that ?
[10:53] <haithar> wow man thanks
[10:53] <haithar> yep
[10:53] <Sling> ok :)
[10:53] <strikov> haithar: do you mean Vary-header bug?
[10:53] <haithar> yep
[10:54] <haithar> since we're using CDN for images etc. squid basically caches favicon.ico only :)
[10:54] <OpenTokix> haithar: replace squid with nginx, - squid is a piece of shit
[10:54] <strikov> haithar: i saw your merge request for trusty and response that i needs to be fixed in vivid first; just fyi -- i has been fixed in vivid dew days ago
[10:54] <haithar> can nginx reverse proxy?
[10:55] <OpenTokix> haithar: yes
[10:55] <OpenTokix> haithar: like seven billion times better then squid
[10:55] <haithar> strikov: kudos man!
[10:56] <OpenTokix> haithar: also support spdy-sockets and modern tech like that. - Also super easy to make a dual stack frontend, for your ipv4 backend etc.
[10:57] <haithar> strikov: I'll be honest, I don't think I have the capacity to fully understand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates , even though I reckon it must contain all infos. Do you think there's a chance for this to appear in trusty? Is it appropriate to offer a small $$ for you to help that process?
[10:58] <haithar> OpenTokix: thanks for the suggestion. Trying nginx is on my bucket list for years. I'll look into it.
[10:58] <OpenTokix> haithar: do it, do it now. - You will hate yourself for wasting time on squid
[10:59] <strikov> haithar: I don't think that $$ make any sense in that case. SRU process is mostly about (value for all users) / (potential issues for all users).
[10:59] <haithar> OpenTokix: just to be on the safe side, can you send me a link with open nginx bugs in trusty? ;)
[11:00] <OpenTokix> haithar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty?field.searchtext=nginx&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= <-- all four of them, 50% relating ...
[11:00] <OpenTokix> ... to "default config"
[11:01] <haithar> strikov: yeah that's something I don't get, ever since people are using CDNs, this issue renders Squid useless in trusty for reverse proxying. Sounds like a high-impact thing for me, but hey, I'm in sysops for like 2 months after a 10 year gap:)
[11:01] <OpenTokix> so not really a bug per say
[11:01] <haithar> OpenTokix: thanks, checking it now
[11:01] <strikov> rbasak: Morning. What's your opinion on the squid3 vary-header bug? Do we have any chance to get positive response for the SRU? haithar really wants to have this bug fixed
[12:32] <ReScO> how can i monitor with a cronjob if there are new updates?
[12:33] <ReScO> without actually installing them?
[12:33] <ReScO> i prefer to do this with a bash script
[12:34] <OpenTokix> ReScO: yes, there is a program for it even
[12:34] <OpenTokix> ReScO: apticron or something, you can tell it to either install, or mail about them etc.
[12:34] <OpenTokix> yes, apticron
[12:35] <lordievader> Or cron-apt.
[12:35] <OpenTokix> lordievader: cron-apt will install, apticron report
[12:35] <lordievader> Ah, check.
[12:36] <lordievader> Thought you could set cron-apt to not install stuff though.
[12:36] <ReScO> i don't want to receive emails
[12:36] <OpenTokix> ReScO: Where do you want the report ?
[12:36] <ReScO> i'm looking for a bash implementation so i can use curl to send a PushBullet message
[12:36] <OpenTokix> ReScO: check the manpage fro apt-get, it has tools for getting info about what updates is available
[12:37] <rbasak> ReScO: /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check. This is what the motd uses.
[12:38] <rbasak> ReScO: if you want more detail, you could use apt-get --simulate
[12:38] <ReScO> i only need that, thanks :)
[12:49] <ReScO> hmm, i'm having trouble splitting the output of that script, rbasak
[12:50] <ReScO> $(echo $IN | tr ";" "\n")  IN=$(/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check)
[13:20] <rbasak> ReScO: looks like it outputs to stderr. Which is bad. That should probably be a bug.
[13:21] <rbasak> But you can redirect using 2>&1
[13:21] <rbasak> And then eg. cut -d\; -f1 (and -f2)
[13:22] <OpenTokix> /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check 2>&1|tr ";" "\n"
[14:19] <arcsky> what logs do you guys sends to your external syslog servers?
[14:20] <jpds> All of them from syslog?
[14:20] <jpds> auditd.
[14:22] <arcsky> which logs from /var/log/ are more important?
[14:23] <jpds> arcsky: Only you know the answer to that questio.
[14:23] <jpds> arcsky: My RSS reader logs things to tt-rss.log.
[14:24] <jpds> arcsky: I'm not too fussed about that so I just put it into my backups.
[14:25] <caribou> utlemming: smoser: anyone of you aware of issues with the trusty ubuntu cloud image not applying the "ubuntu-pass=" kernel parameter ?
[14:25] <caribou> just checking before I dig in further
[14:25] <caribou> I can reproduce the problem easily with the current image. works fine with Precise
[14:26] <smoser> caribou, i dont know that that was ever really officially supported.
[14:27] <smoser> 'uncloud-init', right ?
[14:27] <caribou> smoser: it's well documented here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images/KVMKernelOptions
[14:27] <caribou> smoser: yes
[14:28] <caribou> smoser: doesn't mean it is supported though
[14:29] <smoser> caribou, i'd much rather teach someone how to use the nocloud seed.
[14:30] <smoser> http://ubuntu-smoser.blogspot.com/2013/02/using-ubuntu-cloud-images-without-cloud.html
[14:30] <caribou> that could be an option
[14:31] <caribou> smoser: ah, yes I used to do a lot of that before uvtools. Still do for some debian makedumpfile testing
[14:32] <smoser> uvtool does it under the covers.
[14:39] <arcsky> hey i have added a line in my /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf, auth.* @192.168.168.199:516 and restarted. but now when i do an ssh login i cant see that it sends a syslog message to that host. what do i do wrong?
[15:14] <Walex> arcsky: 'man rsyslog.conf | grep -w port'
[15:15] <arcsky> Walex: No manual entry for rsyslog.conf
[15:16] <arcsky> Protocol udp/tcp [default udp] and i use udp
[15:38] <samba35> i was using ovs version 1.9 with bridge compatibility mode (brcompt)  but now after host upgrade now i have to use ovs version 2.0.2 . now i have create VLAN with ovs 2.0.2 but i have no idea which mode i should use
[15:38] <samba35> i want to use vlan in guest with 1 interface
[15:38] <samba35> and 2 nic with pci- passthrought but that is not problem at present
[15:39] <samba35> using ubuntu 14.04.2
[15:39] <samba35> is there any way i can use older version of openvswitch (ovs)
[16:04] <samba35> i am using ubuntu 14.04.2 , i have openvswitch version 2.0.2 but i want to use 1.9 version of ovs ,is there a possiblity to use old version of software
[19:21] <designbybeck> I have a test Ubuntu server I'm playing with remotely. I'm ssh'd into it and just ran updates. what is the best way to setup and remote into it via GUI?
[19:22] <teward> designbybeck: ubuntu servers don't get GUIs by default
[19:22] <teward> designbybeck: you have to manually install a setup, install / configure desktop sharing, etc.
[19:22] <designbybeck> correct teward I think I did install Xubuntu
[19:23] <designbybeck> I'm using cloud at cost servers.. and they have a console that pulls it up
[19:23] <designbybeck> I'm just trying to learn how to do it without the console teward
[19:25] <RoyK> just install ssh server
[19:25] <RoyK> apt-get install openssh-server
[19:26] <designbybeck> RoyK, I can get in via ssh, I'm trying to get into GUI
[19:26] <designbybeck> like Remote Desktop
[19:26] <designbybeck> RDP?
[19:26] <RoyK> designbybeck: not a server thing
[19:27] <designbybeck> Just trying to learn
[19:27] <designbybeck> I'll keep playing with it
[19:28] <teward> designbybeck: that's not a server thing though - that's what me and RoyK are saying
[19:29] <designbybeck> right gotcha
[19:29] <designbybeck> thanks
[19:29] <bekks> designbybeck: For getting into the GUI, you have to install one, before.
[19:30] <designbybeck> that is what I'm asking some other coworkers, they are debating ;)
[19:30] <teward> this also isn't Windows
[19:30] <teward> Windows Server does a GUI - but that's Windows
[19:30] <bekks> Yeah :)
[19:30] <designbybeck> yeah I don't do windows!
[19:31] <designbybeck> I'm a Linux power end users so to speak!
[19:31] <bekks> designbybeck: So all you need is ssh :)
[19:31] <designbybeck> Just don't know much about server side and such
[19:35] <teward> designbybeck: then you can't claim to be a power end user
[19:35] <teward> designbybeck: I'm a power end user - i use the terminal for a lot of things that are 'simple' over the GUI but that's by choice
[19:35] <teward> I also backport software I need for both server *and* GUI
[19:35] <teward> but you can't claim to be a power user if you don't understand the console
[19:37] <teward> anyways, i am trying to achieve the most basic way of setting up a mailnig list - via postfix aliases - problem is it's saying relay denied.  I need google mail servers and my university's mail server to communicate to my server and work - not sure how to achieve this though
[19:45] <designbybeck> teward, ok maybe power user was a bad term to use. What I meant was I know a good deal of the common Linux DE's and managing DE's as well as design/media/photography using Linux and Open Source Software
[19:47] <patdk-wk> designbybeck, you want #ubuntu
[19:47] <patdk-wk> gui's are not part of server, so people in here will have limited knowhow to do that, if at all
[19:47] <teward> ^ that
[19:47] <patdk-wk> cause it's just not done in here
[19:48] <patdk-wk> but most likely your looking for vnc or nx
[19:48] <designbybeck> yes working on trying to get logged in with vnc, thank you guys
[19:49] <patdk-wk> teward need to know what you mean by a mailinglist and aliases file
[19:49] <patdk-wk> you mean your running a *real* mailing list software? or just using aliases?
[19:49] <teward> patdk-wk: just using aliases
[19:49] <patdk-wk> and the relay denied is totally different issue
[19:49] <patdk-wk> so likely, it's just badly misconfigured then
[19:50] <patdk-wk> postconf -n dump somewhere
[19:50] <patdk-wk> and probably a few log lines just so we all know
[19:51] <teward> patdk-wk: well, bad news is, i am currently debugging a ftbfs in nginx on my sbuild instance, trying to figure out why
[19:52] <teward> then i have other things for work on my todo list that need to be done within the next 30 minutes before i can go onto working on that part
[19:52] <patdk-wk> well, I will probably only be around for the next few years
[19:52] <teward> (i'm only alive now 'cause i was waiting for that build to finish)
[19:52] <teward> PO
[19:52] <teward> :P *
[23:02] <edenist> hey
[23:13] <delinquentme> command line util to list all headers at a given url?
[23:14] <sarnold> delinquentme: HEAD ?
[23:14] <delinquentme> sarnold, curl -I
[23:15] <sarnold> that's three more characters :)
[23:57] <arcsky> how can i send syslog messages to an external syslog server? i get no success with the crappy rsyslog