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| wickedheadache | Hi is it possible to switch to ubuntu from xubuntu 12.10? i can't install any new software in xubuntu...it's driving me nuts | 04:54 |
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| Unit193 | You can't install new software, because 12.10 is eol... | 04:55 |
| Unit193 | !eolupgrades | 04:55 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 04:55 |
| wickedheadache | so can i run sudo apt-get upgrade? | 04:58 |
| wickedheadache | or do i absolutely have to edit the sources list for each upgrade? | 04:59 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you shouldnt just edit the sources | 05:01 |
| wickedheadache | nuts | 05:01 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: 12.10's repos are not up anymore.. its not part of what is provided for us/you as part of the agreement for 12.10 | 05:01 |
| wickedheadache | i thought it was extended cause 12 was so awesome xD | 05:02 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: 12.04 is LTS.. | 05:02 |
| holstein | lts = long term support | 05:02 |
| wickedheadache | aw i got the wrong version | 05:02 |
| wickedheadache | oh well | 05:02 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: you are welcome to support 12.10, as long as you please.. but, ubuntu is not supporting it anymore | 05:02 |
| wickedheadache | hehe | 05:02 |
| wickedheadache | I wish i could actually fully support an os all by myself | 05:03 |
| holstein | literally nothing is stopping you.. but, i think you'll find it easier, and more constructive to just download, and install 14.04 | 05:03 |
| holstein | !14.04 | 05:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu and is the latest !LTS version. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes | 05:03 |
| wickedheadache | i didn't do that cause there was no cd-rom image, and the one i did find was 740mb not less then 700 | 05:04 |
| holstein | !mini | 05:04 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 05:04 |
| wickedheadache | all i had was 700mb cd-rs | 05:04 |
| wickedheadache | argh | 05:04 |
| holstein | wickedheadache: ^ there, you will find *small* isos for supported versions that fit on cd's.. | 05:05 |
| wickedheadache | i should of come ehre first instead of googleing and searching | 05:05 |
| daidwister | is there an easy uograde path from Trusty Tahr 14.04 LTS to 14.10? | 07:01 |
| daidwister | *upgrade | 07:01 |
| baizon | yes, update manager should be fine | 07:05 |
| baizon | @daidwister | 07:05 |
| daidwister | ok, thanks | 07:46 |
| daidwister | so, no do-release-upgrade ? | 07:46 |
| Affenarsch | spricht jemand deutsch? | 08:06 |
| Unit193 | !de | Affenarsch | 08:07 |
| ubottu | Affenarsch: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 08:07 |
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| natuzi | When I run apt-get autoremove, it shows me linux-image-generic. Can I remove it? | 12:46 |
| cfhowlett | natuzi, yes | 12:46 |
| baizon | natuzi: this are the old kernels, yes you can remove them | 12:47 |
| natuzi | I see, old kernels. It is remplaced by what? I mean the name of the packet. | 12:49 |
| baizon | natuzi: with an updated version | 12:49 |
| natuzi | I understand but the name of the packet, what is it? | 12:50 |
| baizon | natuzi: it depends, i think it's linux-image-generic-lts-utopic | 12:50 |
| natuzi | I don't have this packet, is it linux-image-3...-generic? | 12:52 |
| koegs | natuzi: apt-get autoremove tells you the name... | 12:52 |
| natuzi | And is it normal if I have many linux-image-3...-generic packets? | 12:53 |
| natuzi | koegs: It just tells me linux-image-generic | 12:53 |
| natuzi | Sorry for my questions, I just want to understand. | 12:53 |
| colp2 | linux-image-generic should not be removed. It essnetially a placeholder for the "current" for apt-get install. | 12:55 |
| colp2 | linux-image-3... can be removed, it is a specific version that is replaced by some other version | 12:55 |
| koegs | oh, ok, natuzi, i thought he wants to remove the other packages, linux-image-generic should be kept | 12:55 |
| natuzi | I see the old version of the kernel is named linux-image-generic and the new one is linux-image-generic-3.16.0-31-generic. | 12:55 |
| koegs | natuzi: are you trying to install the HWE-Kernel? | 12:56 |
| koegs | read: utopic-kernel for trusty? | 12:57 |
| natuzi | I'm just trying to understand if I must remove linux-image-generic or not. I'm asking this question because I saw on the Internet that having mutiple versions of the kernel is a good thing because if I have a problem with a version of the kernel, I can run the system with a previous version. | 12:58 |
| koegs | correct, ubuntu normally keeps the latest-version and the version before and normally linux-image-generic will be kept as installed, as long as you don't do something manually | 12:59 |
| koegs | linux-image-generic will be removed and replaced by linux-image-generic-lts-utopic for example, if you manually install Kernel 3.16 in 14.04 | 12:59 |
| natuzi | If I have Xubuntu 14.10, that means when I'll remove linux-image-generic, it will be remplaced by linux-image-generic-lts-utopic and linux-image-generic-3.16.0-31-generic will be kept too? | 13:01 |
| knome | natuzi, don't remove it, it's a meta package. | 13:03 |
| colp2 | first install hardware enablement stack / kernel 3.16, after that you remove linux-image-generic | 13:03 |
| colp2 | AFAIK removing linux-image-generic will not automatically install the 3.16/lts-utopic | 13:04 |
| natuzi | Ok, I'll just keep it and assume apt-get is wrong. Thank you, guys. | 13:08 |
| Greylocks | Is there an xbuntu-next or can problems with vivid be reported here? | 13:45 |
| Pici | Greylocks: #ubuntu+1 is for all flavors of Ubuntu | 13:45 |
| GridCube | ^ yes, but also #xubuntu-devel | 13:46 |
| Greylocks | Pici: thanks:) | 13:46 |
| Pici | GridCube: right. I always forget that #xubuntu-devel is user friendly... #ubuntu-devel... not so much. | 13:46 |
| Greylocks | GridCube: thank you too | 13:46 |
| GridCube | Pici: if they are running as beta testers they are indirect part of devel P: and they report of issues is what devel needs | 13:47 |
| GridCube | if no one reports issues then how can someone fix them? | 13:47 |
| GridCube | :D | 13:47 |
| elfy | and following a thread on the m/l - in here once Beta arrives, which it has | 13:48 |
| Pici | o | 13:49 |
| * Pici stands corrected | 13:49 | |
| elfy | :) | 13:49 |
| GridCube | :D dont worry Pici you where correct, for most issues #ubuntu+1 is the place | 13:49 |
| elfy | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-November/010471.html | 13:50 |
| elfy | yep | 13:50 |
| Pici | Well, we wouldn't throw you out if you asked an Xubuntu question in #ubuntu+1, fwiw :) | 13:51 |
| xubuntu874 | hey guys, I need some help. I deleted by mistake some plug-ins from the control panel at the upper frame of the desktop (in German it´s called Leiste). I lost the possiblity to controll the volume which is connected to gmusicbrowser as well as the battery status and the pidgin-status-contoll-box. I don´t know how to restore all of this in its original state. Can you please help me? | 14:17 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu874, if you delete all the .hidden files and folders in your /home AND ONLY in /home, logout/login. everything will reset to factory default state | 14:19 |
| xubuntu874 | @cfhowlett: thanks for answering. This would me I will loose my personal data as well? | 14:21 |
| cfhowlett | yes. | 14:21 |
| cfhowlett | wait, | 14:21 |
| cfhowlett | it will kill your SETTINGS and whatever personal data you have in those settings. but actual data, i.e. music, videos,etc would be safe as those are NOT typically .hidden | 14:22 |
| xubuntu874 | ok then I will try this. thanks again | 14:23 |
| inerkick | Hi team I can't install nm-applet in my xubuntu | 14:54 |
| inerkick | it says "Unable to locate package nm-applet" | 14:54 |
| inerkick | i can't connect to mobile broad band. the dongle i connect not show option in my xfce environment | 14:55 |
| inerkick | hence tried to install nm-applet | 14:55 |
| Adam_T | inerkick: the package names are network-manager and network-manager-gnome I believe | 15:04 |
| koegs | and they are installed by default | 15:21 |
| natuzi | I have a problem with compiling mplayer on Xubuntu 14.10. | 16:54 |
| bazhang | natuzi, why compile it | 16:54 |
| bazhang | natuzi, what version you have right now | 16:55 |
| natuzi | bazhang: The utopic version of it doesn't contain mencoder. | 16:55 |
| natuzi | I need mencoder. I have Xubuntu 14.10 and MPlayer2 2.0 | 16:56 |
| bazhang | natuzi, what specific task requires that | 16:56 |
| natuzi | Install the trusty version of mplayer via ppa or compile it myself but I have errors to build a deb file. | 16:57 |
| drc | But back to the question: natuzi, what exactly is the problem? | 16:57 |
| bazhang | whats the need for *mencoder* | 16:57 |
| bazhang | ubottu, lag | 16:58 |
| ubottu | You have lag, I don't have lag | 16:58 |
| natuzi | Oh, I use it to rip movies and do some video encoding. I don't want an alternative, I didn't know that by updating Xubuntu it'll remove mencoder. | 16:59 |
| natuzi | I have this error with checkinstall : Makefile:22: config.mak: No such file or directory make: *** osdep/: Is a directory. Stop. | 16:59 |
| bazhang | !find avconv | 16:59 |
| ubottu | File avconv found in devede, libav-doc, libav-tools | 17:00 |
| natuzi | Is it a fork of mplayer or what? | 17:00 |
| Nivex | mencoder is in a separate package now | 17:00 |
| bazhang | natuzi, got build-essential installed? | 17:00 |
| Nivex | apt-get install mencoder and you're off to the races | 17:01 |
| bazhang | !info mencoder | 17:01 |
| ubottu | Package mencoder does not exist in utopic | 17:01 |
| cfhowlett | natuzi, avconv is a fork of ffmpeg, however, ffmpeg will return to ubuntu repos it vivid, IIRC. also: ffmpeg and avconv will likely ... defork? at some point | 17:01 |
| bazhang | Nivex, not in utopic | 17:01 |
| Nivex | oh, right, this is a trusty box I'm sitting on | 17:01 |
| Nivex | sorry | 17:01 |
| natuzi | bazhang: I know that's why I'm trying to compile it | 17:01 |
| bazhang | !find ffmpeg vivid | 17:02 |
| ubottu | Found: chromium-codecs-ffmpeg, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-dbg, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra-dbg, cmus-plugin-ffmpeg, ffmpeg, ffmpeg-dbg, ffmpeg-doc, ffmpeg2theora, ffmpegthumbnailer (and 29 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ffmpeg&searchon=names&suite=vivid§ion=all | 17:02 |
| bazhang | is it just me lagging | 17:02 |
| bazhang | !info ffmpeg vivid | 17:03 |
| ubottu | ffmpeg (source: ffmpeg): Tools for transcoding, streaming and playing of multimedia files. In component universe, is optional. Version 7:2.5.4-1 (vivid), package size 1144 kB, installed size 1750 kB | 17:03 |
| natuzi | I just want to compile it, is it impossible? Because you're all giving me ffmpeg forks | 17:03 |
| bazhang | is that the version you need/want natuzi | 17:03 |
| bazhang | natuzi, did you install build-essential | 17:04 |
| natuzi | bazhang: yes | 17:04 |
| bazhang | ok | 17:05 |
| bazhang | !info libav-tools | 17:06 |
| ubottu | libav-tools (source: libav): Multimedia player, encoder and transcoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 6:11-1 (utopic), package size 410 kB, installed size 2896 kB | 17:06 |
| bazhang | I just use the handbrake devs recommended version | 17:06 |
| bazhang | afaik the avconv commands are not that different than what you would do with mencoder/ffmpeg | 17:07 |
| natuzi | bazhang: I'm checking the doc right now | 17:08 |
| bazhang | natuzi, any special use case or the like? ripping to mp4 and such? | 17:08 |
| bazhang | !info ogmrip | 17:10 |
| ubottu | Package ogmrip does not exist in utopic | 17:10 |
| natuzi | bazhang: It doesn't exist too on utopic | 17:10 |
| natuzi | but i know this software | 17:10 |
| bazhang | utopic really cleaned the cupboards of some of the better tools | 17:11 |
| natuzi | with avconv can I dumptstream ? | 17:11 |
| natuzi | like vob > vob (copy the video/audio codec) | 17:11 |
| bazhang | no compression whatsoever? | 17:11 |
| natuzi | yes with libx264 | 17:12 |
| natuzi | but also without compression | 17:12 |
| natuzi | and also some cropping and advanced subtitle options | 17:12 |
| bazhang | not used it much , sorry about that natuzi | 17:12 |
| bazhang | ogmrip had some super nice presets already set | 17:13 |
| natuzi | bazhang: I'm just wondering nobody explained me for my compiling mplayer problem, is it impossible, not recommended or something? | 17:13 |
| natuzi | ogmrip use mencoder too that's why they removed it from the repo i think | 17:14 |
| bazhang | yet ogmrip-dirac and oggz are still there | 17:15 |
| natuzi | ogmrip-dirac is an extension for ogmrip | 17:16 |
| bazhang | yep | 17:17 |
| natuzi | but I think I'm just to scared to use other softwares avconv seems to be good | 17:17 |
| bazhang | hard to use since ogmrip is not there though | 17:17 |
| natuzi | oh maybe mpv can do thing since it's a fork of mplayer | 17:19 |
| ObrienDave | rage quit? ;P | 18:03 |
| bazhang | seemed satisfied enough | 18:04 |
| bazhang | http://blog.smplayer.info/smplayer-with-support-for-mpv-is-now-available/ | 18:04 |
| bazhang | mpv really does have a huge number of options | 18:05 |
| bazhang | so he was on the right track | 18:05 |
| ObrienDave | well, i could have recommended handbrake and makemkv | 18:05 |
| bazhang | sure | 18:05 |
| bazhang | mpv is pretty much cli | 18:06 |
| ObrienDave | ah, a real guru :) | 18:06 |
| whyameye | I've read about a "presentation" mode for xubuntu 14.04 but I can't find it. Recommendation for how to enable it or find it? | 18:15 |
| holstein | whyameye: f11 typically.. "fullscreen" mode.. is that what you want? or kiosk mode? or a presenation mode where, the screen doesnt sleep? | 18:26 |
| whyameye | holstein: yes the computer and the screen wouldn't sleep | 18:26 |
| holstein | whyameye: i would check on the caffine application and ppa http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/01/install-caffeine-indicator-ubuntu-14-04/ | 18:28 |
| whyameye | holstein: thanks, I'll try it | 18:29 |
| uzvermode | how to rotate digital clock on xfce vertical panel? | 18:32 |
| whyameye | holstein: works great! Thanks! | 18:35 |
| holstein | whyameye: cheers! | 18:35 |
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| kashel | Hello people | 21:03 |
| holstein | o/ | 21:03 |
| kashel | I love xubuntu | 21:05 |
| ambrose_ | does anyone there know iptables firewalls? | 23:32 |
| knome | !anyone | ambrose_ | 23:33 |
| knome | eh.. | 23:33 |
| knome | anyway, why not ask the real question and find out | 23:33 |
| ambrose_ | Yes, I had a question | 23:33 |
| ambrose_ | I have written my own firewall. Seems to work, but my knowledge is limited. | 23:34 |
| ambrose_ | Is there any value to dropping packets whose source addr is not my IP on the OUT side? | 23:37 |
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