=== aaron_ is now known as ahoneybun [00:50] how do I sign my package? [00:52] debsign [00:52] the .dsc file [00:55] so debsign file.dsc ? [00:56] yes [00:56] secret key not available [00:56] guess I don't have that setup [00:56] I don't even have ssh setup [00:57] yeah, yah need ssh setup and key on launchpad [00:57] ok sgclark [00:57] its so cool to get notifcations from my phone to my watch, and desktop :) [00:59] sgclark: got my key on LP [01:00] still same error [01:00] g2g sgclark [01:54] back [02:44] sgclark: I'm making a gpg key [02:51] ahoneybun: ahh yes forgot need that too [03:03] ok got the key [03:04] I can't even use the .docbook files in khelpcenter anyway so I don't know if I should bother at this moment [03:06] sorry, what are you trying to do? [03:07] sgclark: rebuild the kubuntu-docs package [03:08] well it is built I believe [03:09] I have a .tar, .changes, and .dsc files [07:02] sgclark: Fixed. [07:18] good morning [07:35] Good morning. [07:39] ovidiu-florin: belated pong [07:42] Mirv: So when do you figure Qt 5.4.1 lands? I thought it was supposed to be on Monday. [07:46] ScottK: week 12 was in the FFe, ie next week. it might make it this week on Friday still with luck. previous blockers have been solved, but calibre seems to be FTBFS now [07:46] OK. Thanks. [07:46] Did you point pitti at that? [07:47] IIRC he's involved with upstream. [07:47] ScottK: just did, since I only now did the rebuild [07:47] OK. Great. [09:32] hola chicos [09:33] hi Riddell [10:33] sitter: patch for your kubuntu-docs repo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10579408/ [10:45] yofel: you can push to it [10:45] scratches are just as world writable as all other repos ^^ [10:48] ah lol [11:35] theres no breeze icon for update notifier ? [11:40] it just uses the system icons I think, which will be oxygen for an upgrade from 14.10 [11:41] hmm [11:41] Riddell: what's happening with kdeconnect dev stuff? [11:43] Riddell: also, you only fixed one of the missing sources in ktp-text-ui :( [11:43] 01:58:36 KCI-E :: E: ktp-text-ui source: source-is-missing data/styles/WoshiChat.AdiumMessageStyle/Contents/Resources/lib/scriptaculous183.js === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [11:54] uh, another minified javascript that doesn't even say it's minified :( [11:56] Riddell: the fact that it doesn't have a .min. probably should be changed as well, otherwise I doubt lintian will pick up that there is a source version of it [11:56] meh I can download https://script.aculo.us/dist/scriptaculous-js-1.8.3.zip but it's lots of files and I don't know which one(s) makes that one [11:56] which it seems to do for jquery now, rather smart [11:56] sitter: well I told him about kdeconnect but I doubt he made the change needed, I guess I'll look into it again [11:57] I think he replied that it's needed for third party plugins [11:57] s/it's/they are [11:58] Riddell: scriptaculous is a combined version of all the files in the zip you linked [12:02] "The .so files are needed for the daemon itself, so they are required. [12:02] There is no current need to install the header files, though, unless [12:02] somebody wants to develop a plugin that is not part of the core [12:02] package." [12:02] sitter: so I think we can tell it to not install them [12:03] eh [12:03] upstream says they are needed, how do you get from there to tell it to not install them? [12:05] apparently yuicompressor would be able to combine the js [12:06] that minifcation is slightly spooky [12:07] Hiyas all [12:12] Riddell: now here's a question ... if you install the unminified jquery anyway, why minify at all? [12:16] 01:58:36 KCI-W :: W: kde-telepathy-text-ui: extra-license-file usr/share/ktelepathy/styles/WoshiChat.AdiumMessageStyle/LICENSE [12:16] Riddell: I take it that is not an issue upstream? [12:18] sitter: ug [12:18] that needs GPL 3 to be compatible [12:18] and it's also not true, that scriptaculous at least is MIT [12:19] jquery, goodness knows [12:19] also MIT [12:19] best talk to mck I guess :P [12:19] I don't think there's any special reason to minify on locally installed stuff [12:20] even the jquery package in ubuntu has a .min.js which isn't actually minified === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [12:21] lol [12:22] Riddell: yeah, so I think it might actually be best to simply replace the minified versions with the full blown ones [12:22] then there's only the license issue left [12:23] git log says " This is based on the works of Seth Chisamore, originally [12:23] found at https://github.com/schisamo/hipchat-adium-message-style [12:24] " [12:24] so we could maybe ask him if can be relicenced [12:24] or ignore it, it's not really a derived work [12:26] yeah I say ignore it and just make sure it's documented in the top directory so packagers find it [12:27] replacing the minified ones with the non-minified ones is just a matter of working out where the filenames need changed, which is faffy [12:27] grep xD [12:30] ah lol, me nub, the scriptfoo zip contains the minified version xD [12:31] ehm [12:32] is it normal that baloo_file uses 25% cpu ? [12:32] Riddell: scriptalol.js isn't actually used it appears :O [12:35] sitter: good point [12:36] Riddell: can you test the changes? my ktp is slightly broken right now [12:37] morning [12:38] hi sgclark! [12:38] must be not yet morning for you [12:38] Hey sgclark === hein is now known as Sho_ === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [13:39] Riddell: sitter: I am trying to work on the libs renamed to 4 and it seems I can no longer push to git, did I miss something? [13:40] rebase [13:41] I just checked the file permissions on git.debian seem to be as one would expect [13:42] rebase did not work, same error [13:43] pastebin the error? [13:43] BluesKaj: ping [13:44] soee, pong [13:44] BluesKaj: check http://user-prompt.com/discuss-the-future-of-activities-and-virtual-desktops/ [13:45] soee, thanks [13:46] sgclark: ssh git.debian.org [13:46] and run groups [13:46] you should be in at least pkg-kde scm_pkg-kde [13:46] Riddell: paste.ubuntu.com/10580118 [13:47] sitter: yep I am [13:47] sgclark: turn it off and on again? (i.e. remove your clone and clone again?) [13:47] it's what I often do when git gets confusing :) [13:49] drwxr-sr-x+ 191 apachelogger-guest scm_pkg-kde 4.0K Mar 3 11:53 objects [13:49] the + could mean anything :( [13:49] that's where the group writable comes from one presumes [13:50] I will however say that other repos apparently have the group write set explicitly [13:50] deleted and recloned and still rejected [13:50] sgclark: try now [13:51] kdegames4 [13:51] that's why I don't like server-side copying fwiw [13:51] that oe works now [13:51] one [13:52] sgclark: mahjongg should be fixed too [13:53] wtf [13:53] yep, thanks for the help [13:54] second time now when we have some updates to systemd, during packages configuration my screen is replaced with plymouth .. [13:58] soee: yep that's the issue I get [13:58] something doesn't like X being on vt 7 [13:58] I wonder if we should change the sddm package or config for that [13:58] it might solve the live cd issue [13:58] ah good to know im not alone :) [13:59] soee: please report a bug on something [13:59] but I've no idea what! [13:59] maybe sddm [14:00] you mean X not being on vt 7 I guess? ^^ [14:00] right [14:01] * Riddell uploads kdeconnect 0.8 [14:01] so sddm it is ? [14:01] soee: may as well blame that [14:01] :D [14:02] well, sddm is responsible for X running on vt 1. But I do wonder what package would do a forced activation of vt 7... [14:02] ill create bug [14:03] Riddell: here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bugs ? [14:03] i see the logout bug is also mentioned here [14:06] yofel: if plymouth is still running after X started there's something wrong with the sddm service lineup [14:06] plymouth is supposed to get shut down by the DM [14:06] hm, that too... [14:08] yofel: btw do you want some light reading material for this evening? I rather need some proof reading for a blog post ^^ [14:09] soee: yeah [14:09] soee: which logout bug? [14:10] sitter: topic? ^^ [14:10] Riddell: we can't logout, it ends with black screen [14:10] yofel: using ruby rake rather than make for debian/rules xD [14:11] I got a bit bored on saturday おはよう;) [14:11] lol, I know close to nothing about ruby xD [14:12] no prior ruby knowledge required [14:12] https://apachelog.wordpress.com/?p=1332&shareadraft=55004d4a5dc40 [14:12] Riddell: please confirm / and change/update if needed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1430817 [14:12] Launchpad bug 1430817 in sddm (Ubuntu) "Systemd packages upgrade makes screen replaced by plymouth" [Undecided,New] [14:12] sadly i had upgrade in PL so the log is also in Polish [14:13] sitter: until when do you need/want the response? [14:13] yofel: until tomorrow would be lovely [14:13] k [14:14] if is sysemd responsible for launching apps formerly used by init, how can I launch system-settings with root permissions , kdesudo systemsettings in krunner no longer launches. I tried to launch it from /usr/share/app-install/desktop/ but it just errors out with "cannot find kde-init " [14:16] oh right, talking about logout bug [14:16] Riddell: logout bug i mentioned https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1407152 [14:16] Launchpad bug 1407152 in sddm (Ubuntu) "Can't log out from KDE 5" [Critical,Incomplete] [14:16] what's a good way to find out why ksmserver doesn't want to quit on logout? [14:16] ah wrr Alberto mentioned it shoudl be reported to sddm on github .. [14:17] * yofel doesn't believe that's a sddm bug... [14:21] the reason I ask is when editing files as root the toolbar fonts are too small to read on this monitor and root permissions are needed to change their size [14:22] yofel: can be many things [15:12] sitter: still around? I have an app here that wants kf5 libkdegames but it is not officially released right? or wrong? [15:15] sgclark: it's not as far as I know [15:15] sec [15:16] ./CMakeLists.txt: find_package(KDE4 REQUIRED) [15:16] sgclark: 14.12 libkdegames is kdelibs4 [15:16] which app are we talking about? [15:17] ok, granatier wants it [15:17] oh oh [15:18] that repo is still fried apparently [15:19] interestingly enough my script reported it fixed [15:19] kdelibs failure and it looks ugly... [15:20] sgclark: do note that kdelibs needs a patch for khtml btw, see packagers mailing list [15:21] + 73c4f24...75afd31 kubuntu_unstable -> kubuntu_unstable (forced update) [15:21] + 73c4f24...0de8967 kubuntu_vivid_archive -> kubuntu_vivid_archive (forced update) [15:21] ahh ok, my mailbox is a mess :( [15:21] sgclark: granatier should be fixed .. git pull --rebase [15:21] sitter: ok thank you [15:21] quite the mess that merging >.< [15:21] We're giving away free Trello Gold [15:21] so you can make your boards unique, just like you. [15:21] <- snowflake! [15:22] 'Share or Tweet to get a free month of Trello Gold, then add board backgrounds that reflect your style.' [15:22] pft [15:22] only one month [15:22] so yeah I am still not clear on this whole merge process, what exactly are we suppose to merge? [15:22] sgclark: for apps 14.12 nothing because we don't integrate the stable branch [15:23] ideally the manual initial upload should be gone by summer [15:23] ahh ok [15:23] then sitter can't screw up the merging [15:23] lol k [15:25] sitter: I have that too [15:25] Re trello gold [15:25] don't take it they want to get you hooked on using porn pictures as backgrounds on your boards ! [15:26] lol [15:27] if gold or business class actually had worthwile features I'd totally throw monies at them [15:27] but with gold you get pretty much nothing other than custom wallpapers and custom emojis [15:28] meh [15:33] err gwenview somehow took over as my default file manager?!?! [15:34] sgclark: ooh I got that too [15:34] at least firefox seems to like gwenview now [15:34] yeah [15:34] firefox is it for me too [15:35] InitialPreference=8 says /usr/share/applications/gwenview.desktop [15:35] >grep Init /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop [15:35] InitialPreference=10 [15:35] so that's fine [15:38] BBL [15:39] * Riddell runs >ubuntu-build kdevelop vivid-proposed retry [15:41] sgclark: did you get kdevelop-python uploaded? [15:43] Riddell: ugh no, forgot, messing with this kde4libs patch. will do that now.. [15:43] sgclark: well I don't think ScottK has replied so you probably can't still [15:43] sgclark: send it to me to upload or give me the .changes and .dsc to sign? [15:43] he di, got a ping in irc [15:43] oh cool [15:43] did* [15:44] sgclark: where's your backports? [15:45] Riddell: sitting in my chroot broken [15:46] Riddell: failed at the part where I test dpkg --install *.deb [15:47] no point uploading if I cannot get past that.. [15:47] I have broken enough systems this month :) [15:47] sgclark: it doesn't like kde-runtime being installed [15:47] yeah [15:47] something unhappy with katepart [15:47] sgclark: what PPAs does your chroot use? [15:47] I disabled them all [15:48] maybe that's why it's unhappy, it has some stuff from a PPA and now it wants more [15:48] these PPAs can be greedy [15:48] lol [15:48] maybe it is time to rebuild that chroot [15:48] I can install katepart fine in my utopic chroot and in vivid [15:49] ok. I will just rebuild that chroot then [15:49] after I am done fighting with kde4libs.. [15:50] sgclark: anything I can help with there? [15:50] dunno, my quilt does not want to see the patch. Probably me.. [15:52] sgclark: does QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches ? [15:52] echo $QUILT_PATCHES [15:53] is the patch in debian/patches/series [15:53] ? [15:53] oh that is empty.. where do I set that? [15:53] I have export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches in my ~/.bashrc [15:53] ok [15:55] still no go [15:56] pastebin something, I'm working in the dark here :) [15:56] I know. sorry [15:57] bah, sorrted, sorry for the noise. I forgot to git add patch [15:58] ah hah [16:02] okies, kdevelop-python up, kde4libs patched up, working on new chroot now [16:03] * Riddell fluffles sgclark [16:03] * Riddell uploads sddm with minimum_vt set to 7 [16:04] just to see if it'll help with tomorrow's daily image [16:04] rebased granatier uploaded === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === wendar_ is now known as wendar [17:55] sgclark: kdevelop in vivid :) [17:55] Riddell: great thanks :) [17:56] sgclark: no no, thanks you, all I had to do was run rebuild :) [17:58] Riddell: do you want me @ akademy? if so should I request funds from ubuntu again? [18:01] sgclark: ooh yes please :) === tsimpson is now known as lubotu1 === lubotu1 is now known as tsimpson [18:27] valorie: ping.. kde is not listed on the lfnw website, you were going to have the booth there or ? [18:28] lfnw? [18:28] LinuxFest Northwest. Our neck of the woods linuxfest thing [18:29] we are going together, I thought she said she was hosting a kde booth. I will be wondering around with my laptop showing off kubuntu plasma5 lol === aaron_ is now known as ahoneybun [18:43] hey sgclark [18:44] hey [18:45] sgclark: I got the gpg setup I believe [18:46] Riddell: I'm all nervous with the chance to go to Akademy lol [18:47] * sgclark fears the recommended accomodation [18:48] the hotel sgclark? [18:48] lol yeah last year tp was not included :p we did not find out till we got there, and really coming from the us one would expect tp when we arrived lol [18:49] XD what the heck [18:49] ikr [18:49] guess should pack a few rolls just in case lol [18:49] it was student residences not a hotel [18:50] this one is more like a real hotel [18:52] good lol, I plan on less suitcases this year.. that was awful lougging all those lol [18:55] :) [18:56] Riddell: or anyone who is going to akademy, would share a room if i can go (to lower cost) [18:57] I expeect my girlfriend to come with me, probably would be polite to share a room with her [18:57] of course [18:59] me and valorie will likely share [19:02] Riddell: ktux is still no go right? [19:04] sgclark: right [19:04] :( [19:04] k [19:05] does that make you sad? are you in need of ktux? [19:05] lol poor tux [19:11] ahoneybun: now that you've perfected your artwork skills on the banner how about updating the ubiquity slideshow for breeze and plasma 5? [19:12] Riddell: just shoot me the links so I can get the sizes [19:12] :) [19:12] ahoneybun: apt-get source ubiquity-slideshow-kubuntu [19:12] (in vivid) [19:13] I'm on the Beta so I got vivid :) [19:14] yeah that's good [19:14] Downloading [19:15] Riddell: I'm using the Beta as a daily driver for goodness sake XD [19:16] also check this out Riddell https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu [19:16] * ahoneybun wonders why his internet is so slow [19:17] too many people signing jeremy clarkson petitions [19:22] Riddell, yeah, I see he did it again, this time he clobbered the producer [19:36] working on it Riddell [19:45] I guess KDE likes chrome better then firefox [19:51] why ? :) [19:51] try Vivaldi - super fast :) [19:51] vivaldi? [19:52] sgclark: yes https://vivaldi.com/ [19:53] seems dolphin does not like having 2 tabs [19:54] Riddell, ScottK: quassel-0.12-rc1 uploaded at http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.12-rc1.tar.bz2 -- this marks our UI/string freeze and should coincide nicely with Vivid's UI freeze tomorrow [19:55] not much change compared to beta1, but a bunch of bugfixes and a nicer password change dialog [19:56] uh oh, ubuntu has new wallpaper :) [20:05] oh Riddell should I change this link: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved to this: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Contribute ? [20:11] hey sgclark [20:12] hey [20:13] sgclark: how would I see the changes I made to the slideshow? [20:14] ahoneybun: hmm, I have not actually touched that one as far as packaging. I am not entirely sure. [20:14] sgclark: I changed the images, but it is all html [20:15] but there is a dir with some css [20:15] I am guessing you can point FF to the custom CSS? [20:16] ahoneybun, fwiw I like the first page /get involved, not as austere looking as a contents tree [20:16] the html is in the base dir but the css is in a subdir [20:16] BluesKaj: the current link you mean [20:17] ahoneybun, yes [20:17] ok [20:17] less geeky looking , but more appealing [20:17] I'm just not sure how to see the changes though [20:17] ahoneybun: look into firefox developer tools, you can import CSS [20:18] * ahoneybun found some js files [20:19] hmm my laptop seems to be in a permanant dim state [20:19] this is not good for a blind person like me [20:20] I kept having dolphin freeze up on me [20:24] sgclark: http://i.imgur.com/m5s62LY.png [20:28] Hi, does anyone have the instructions to install the drivers EMGD made by Karl-Thomas Pietrowski on ubuntu 14.1, are a beginner, and I can't find instructions on how to do. [20:28] ahoneybun: looks ok to me [20:29] pafurijaz: I have no clue what that is sorry [20:36] Come on, please do not joke. but I can't find where is thopiekar the developer, he has wrote on his ppa page "thopiekar on irc.freenode.net " but freenode have 16380 channels. He use kubuntu and is a developer. sgclark have you some advice to me? [20:40] Maybe I can find a way, I have to look in the channel if exits already launchpad.net [20:41] pafurijaz: hmm I did not intend to joke. Let me see what I can find.. sorry [20:42] pafurijaz: the instructions are on this page: https://launchpad.net/~thopiekar/+archive/ubuntu/emgd you can also send them a message through launchpad. [20:44] pafurijaz: he is in the berlin timezone so he might be out [20:44] kubotu: newversion quassel 0.12-rc1 [20:44] ahoneybun: yes please change the link [20:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1431008 [20:45] Riddell: I also changed the background but I don't know how to view it with the background [20:46] * Riddell neither === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [20:50] Riddell: new: http://imgur.com/KTla3zq old: http://imgur.com/UgfEaWD [20:50] ahoneybun: looks lovely [20:51] I need to see how well the text is readable [20:51] ahoneybun: Ok thank to all i try on lunchpad. [20:51] Thanks sgclark but unfortunately not enough to add the repository and install, I tried several times but messes everything [20:55] ahoneybun: On http://i.imgur.com/m5s62LY.png have the Appearance Preferences been changed to Application Style? And is choosing fonts by Application still supported in System Settings? [21:12] Riddell: well kdepim and kdepim-runtime have a pretty spectacular FTBFS. something with akonadi.. wonder if there was a new release.. [21:16] hmm nope [21:20] sgclark: is it in a ppa? [21:21] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/7051498 [21:22] this line /usr/include/kabc/addressee.h:42:30: fatal error: kabc/calendarurl.h: No such file or directory [21:22] would be the key [21:27] https://i199937078.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/199937078/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.kdepimlibs_4%3A4.14.6-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz?token=GtkLSrKVgrRfWX1Wqr9xTRzw1bgXztNz [21:28] sgclark: see === Start list-missing in kdepimlibs ↑ [21:28] oh well bad url [21:28] No such resource [21:28] but you can find it in kubuntu-ninjas [21:28] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=kdepimlibs&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [21:28] need those new files added [21:29] ahh ok, those are not on our colorful log, missed it, thanks [21:32] something to do with the different versioned ones being handled differently [21:34] prth: I merged 1 patch, the other had an issue. well done on getting them though === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [21:58] Riddell, thanks. could you please tell me about the issue? [21:59] Riddell: print-manager also has an identity crisis but I just notice you last used a git snampshot and this is in kubuntu_vivid_archive. Which is all kf5 [22:02] Hola [22:03] Riddell: I'll upload my changes to a branch and propose a merge later today [22:05] Hey valorie [22:12] Riddell, i got the issue [22:16] sgclark: oh ignore print-manager then, we'll stay with the git snapshot [22:16] thanks ahoneybun [22:16] prth: lovely :) [22:16] prth: there's been a couple of other enquirers but so far none have shown anything practical like you have [22:16] Np Riddell [22:19] Riddell, i just started working on Bug #769669, ahoneybun was having. so i'll send both the patches together :) [22:19] bug 769669 in partman-efi (Ubuntu) "Installer should not format an existing EFI System Partition" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769669 [22:19] :) [22:20] ooh good luck [22:20] Riddell, sorry wrong number it's Bug 1428877 [22:20] bug 1428877 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "partman crashes when trying to make a EFI partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1428877 [22:20] Riddell, thanks :) [22:22] Riddell, ScottK: turns out that 0.12-rc1 may fail to build on Ubuntu, which unfortunately only showed up when mamarley's PPA was triggered... neither the dev boxes, nor mamarley's own machine, nor the Travis CI caught that one [22:22] you may have to apply https://github.com/quassel/quassel/commit/32c0bb666209932d7540c22ddc393fd4550d5418 [22:25] Sput: good to include some randomness [22:26] heh [22:26] it's for generating better password hashes [22:54] hmm dolphin does appear to be locking up for me too [22:54] sgclark: right? [22:56] yikes, yeah this is bad, hmm [22:56] strace might tell you what it's hanging on [22:57] k [23:08] Weird, I'll get in touch with lfnw - filled out the table form over a month ago [23:25] Hello valorie [23:32] hi ahoneybun [23:33] The installer slideshow is getting some much needed work done valorie [23:33] so I just saw [23:33] thank you for doing that [23:35]