[00:34] <francesco_> CIAO
[00:34] <francesco_> !list
[02:30] <proteusguy>  I've got a fresh Kubuntu 14.10 install. It detects new software updates but Muon Update Manager won't install them because "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided". However it never asks me for my credentials.
[02:35] <Kaliraa> Hmm
[02:35] <Kaliraa> You could try running Muon Update Manager as root, proteusguy
[02:36] <Kaliraa> I'm not sure what its package name is, though
[02:36] <Kaliraa> Oh, try         kdesudo muon
[02:37] <proteusguy> Well I can do a sudo apt-get upgrade at the command line no problem. My concern is something is screwed up about Muon. Why won't it ask for credentials?
[02:38] <keithzg> Hmm wonder why indeed. Trying to remember what that's handled by, PolicyKit I want to say?
[02:38] <Kaliraa> Did you try installing polkit-kde-1 ?
[02:39] <keithzg> Kaliraa: yeah, that'd probably be the responsible package for proteusguy, good catch
[02:39] <keithzg> Odd that it wouldn't be installed, though.
[02:39] <Kaliraa> well yeah, I'm just guessing
[02:39] <Kaliraa> I don't understand why the installer wouldn't install that
[02:40] <Kaliraa> Unless the disk image was corrupted or something
[02:54] <proteusguy> polkit-kde-1 is installed. However when I hover over my Network Manager is doesn't show my connection but instead shows "Network Manager 0.9.8 Required". Don't know what's going on. I had the same issue with 14.04 but have done a fresh install. It worked for a while then failed again.
[02:57] <proteusguy> Running "kdesudo muon" just automatically gives me the alert sound but no screen/ui.
[03:03] <Kaliraa> Hmm, that's odd, proteusguy
[03:03] <Kaliraa> Did you verify the iso before using it?
[03:06] <proteusguy> Kaliraa, I believe so but I will check it again when I get back to my office.
[07:18] <soee> good morning
[07:31] <dewdrop> Hi, I am running kubuntu 15.04 beta in virtualbox. I get  a screen like this when I boot up: http://i.imgur.com/9tL64is.png Is there a fix for this?
[07:35] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:36] <lordievader> dewdrop: Does sddm start correctly?
[07:37] <dewdrop> lordievader: It shows up right at the bootup, I don't think it starts sddm
[07:37] <dewdrop> running live iso image
[07:37] <lordievader> dewdrop: Remove the splash kernel parameter or add nomodeset.
[07:43] <dewdrop> lordievader: I tried adding 'nomodeset quiet splash' still the issue exists
[07:43] <lordievader> dewdrop: VB doesn't support multiple graphics drivers, does it?
[07:45] <dewdrop> lordievader:  not sure about it
[07:45] <dewdrop> 14.04 works fine
[07:48] <lordievader> dewdrop: What is the host os?
[07:48] <dewdrop> linux mint 17 (based on Ubuntu 14.04)
[07:49] <lordievader> dewdrop: You could try KVM, I can personally confirm that KVM works ;)
[07:50] <dewdrop> lordievader: thanks, will give it a try
[08:04] <dewdrop> works beautifully
[08:05] <lordievader> :)
[08:19] <ehsan> hi!!
[08:20] <ehsan> any body
[08:22] <lordievader> o/
[08:30] <ehsan> plasma 5 is awesome
[08:30] <ehsan> dont u think so?
[08:32] <lordievader> ehsan: It's sleek :)
[08:32] <lordievader> !pm | ehsan
[08:34] <ehsan> yah :)
[08:34] <ehsan> ok
[10:08] <TheBigDeal> Hi
[10:08] <TheBigDeal> Good morning :)
[10:08] <TheBigDeal> i lost the default fonts and everything is messy, is there a simple way to fix that?
[11:20] <solarseed> test
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:09] <yossarianuk> I have asked this previously but didn't get an answer - as krdc is not ported to plasma5 yet - will 15.04 have access to the older package (plasma4.x) or will it just be missing?
[12:11] <lordievader> yossarianuk: Vivid contains a mixture of Plasma4 and Plasma5 applications.
[12:12] <yossarianuk> lordievader: cheers !
[12:12] <yossarianuk> looking forward to using plasma 5 on my main desktop...
[12:13] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk,  it's installed by default on 15.04 here
[12:14] <yossarianuk> cheers BluesKaj:  - I tried plasma 5.1 out in 14.10 and that was nice (bit buffy) - i'm going to wait until final release,
[12:16] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, if you feel adventurous it is quite stable now, with some of the more annoying bugs being fixed, but if you're on a work machine then 14.10 is still solid as a rock
[12:16] <soee> yossarianuk: krdc is available in vivid
[12:17] <soee> it might not be ported to kf5 but it works just fine
[12:18] <soee> ah BluesKaj already answerd :)
[12:19] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, krdc still uses plasma 4.14 on 15.,04 btw , just checked in muon
[12:22] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: soee: cheers - i'll stick to 14.10 on my work machine - may check out 15.04 on my home desktop though ...
[12:23] <BluesKaj> right
[12:23] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: i.e krdc uses libs, etc from plasma4.x - I can still use it within plasma5.x I asuume
[12:25] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, I'm sure it can be, since 15,04 still uses several 4.14 packages
[12:27] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: cheers  - I assumed thatwould be the case - once kde4 came out I could still use kde3 apps.
[13:33] <kaidelong> kmail has a wizard to set up your first account
[13:33] <kaidelong> I have more than one account
[13:34] <kaidelong> I cannot figure out how to invoke it again or how to set it up manually (it does not automatically generate folders for a new IMAP account)
[13:43] <kaidelong> perhaps it is failing to authenticate but it's not giving me any error message or other indication that the password is wrong
[13:59] <supermanisdeady> i have install ubuntu but have problem when using wlan network, it is show "soft block" to me when i typed "rfkill list". I have following this article http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2172044 by the way but shown an error like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/10580129/ how to fix it?
[14:05] <Mamarok> supermanisdeady: do you have Ubuntu or Kubuntu? This sounds very much like a question that should be asked in #ubuntu instead
[14:11] <supermanisdeady> Mamarok: i have kubuntu, but it seems can solved in both method
[15:16] <marus> hello, how can manage wireless networks with the default network manager in kubuntu
[15:21] <marus> no body know where can i delete config for ssid? i have put wrong credentials, and now can log in to this ssid any more?
[15:21] <marus> or should install wicd?
[15:22] <marus> i have kubuntu 14.10
[15:28] <BluesKaj> marus, which wifi chip ?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> marus, it could be the dnsmasq bug, in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf , place a # in front of dns=dnsmasq , then save the file
[15:38] <BluesKaj> BBL
[16:40] <DarkRoses> ;op
[16:41] <DarkRoses> #minetest-gabo
[16:57] <meditans> hi, I have a problem with wifi connectivity on a thinkpad laptop
[16:57] <meditans> basically I get to connect to my modem, but the connection suddently drops at random intervals
[16:57] <meditans> how could I debug the problem?
[17:08] <marus> BluesKaj: iwlwifi
[17:09] <BluesKaj> marus, it could be the dnsmasq bug, in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf , place a # in front of dns=dnsmasq , then save the file
[17:09] <marus> BluesKaj: do you recommand wicd? or just to stay with the default networkmanager?
[17:13] <meditans> (I have kernel 3.16.*, my wifi card is RealTek)
[17:16] <BluesKaj> marus, wicd is ok , but it doesn't get updated/upgraded like NM so it breaks easily, NM should work, but the  iwlwifi is a driver for intel wifi
[17:18] <BluesKaj> marus, run this in the terminal, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up , then, udo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid , these commands should enaable your wifi in NM, then you should be able set it up in NM
[17:19] <marus> BluesKaj: i solve the Problem, with the native NM
[17:19] <marus> i will stay use it, because of the things you just told me now :-)
[17:19] <marus> thanks a lot
[17:19] <BluesKaj> marus, ok , good
[17:20] <marus> BluesKaj: wifi was enabled, i can't change wrong configured Profile, any way thanks :-)(
[17:23] <BluesKaj> meditans, https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/reserve-7
[17:29] <meditans> BluesKaj: thanks for the link, checking it now. lsusb doesn't return my wireless card
[17:30] <meditans> BluesKaj: however I get it with lspci. However, I'm not finding the chipset name
[17:30] <meditans> BluesKaj: in the format requested
[17:31] <meditans> BluesKaj: is there an alternative command I could try?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> meditans, let me look at my HW file for wifi chips
[17:35] <meditans> BluesKaj: thanks. If this may help, the computer is a Lenovo Twist
[17:39] <BluesKaj> meditans, try this , lshw -C network
[17:40] <BluesKaj> meditans, use sudo with that command
[17:42] <Amitari> I have a little problem. I use Lubuntu, but my problem is related to KDE.
[17:43] <meditans> yes, done, so it appears I made a mistake: ethernet controller is indeed RealTek, but Wireless controller is Centrino-Wireless-N 2230, with driver iwlwifi
[17:43] <meditans> BluesKaj: ^
[17:46] <meditans> BluesKaj: does this change the way I can debug the problem?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> meditans, yes that's an intel wifi chip, which usually very reliable on linux with the iwlwifi driver.Can you look in /var/log/syslog for wifi connection error around the time you a had the dropout ?
[17:53] <meditans> BluesKaj: I'm grepping that file for "wireless". I notice that there are a few message reading "disconnected during association, asking for a new key" and another reading "association took to long, failing activation"
[17:53] <meditans> BluesKaj: the problem is that I can't recall exactly the time I had this problem last time. I'll be sure to note down the exact time in the future.
[17:54] <BluesKaj> meditans, are you the only user?
[17:54] <meditans> BluesKaj: yes, of that computer. The connection is shared with another laptop, which hasn't any problem
[17:55] <BluesKaj> meditans, which router ?
[17:55] <meditans> BluesKaj: could this be a problem with the configuration of the router? My computer works well when I'm elsewhere
[17:56] <meditans> BluesKaj: a Huawei one, I can paste you the model, if it's useful
[17:56] <meditans> BluesKaj: HG532s, Huawei
[17:58] <BluesKaj> meditans, no need , I'm thinking maybe you should use a different channel for wifi than Ch6 which is usually default if this is what you're using
[18:00] <meditans> BluesKaj: I used ch6, then I suspected that could be a problem and switched to Auto, 1, and 11, which were flagged as best channel online. This didn't solve the problem. Should I try all of the others?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> meditans, not sure ...kind of stumped
[18:03] <meditans> BluesKaj: no problem, thanks anyway for your help. Do you know where I could ask for further informations?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> meditans, you could try the #networking chat
[18:04] <meditans> BluesKaj: ok, thank you very much for your help :)
[18:05] <BluesKaj> meditans, good luck :)
[18:05] <meditans> BluesKaj: thanks, i'll need some luck :)
[18:06] <Amitari> I have a problem. I use Lubuntu, but my problem is related to KDE, and no one on #lubuntu was able to help me.
[18:06] <BluesKaj> Amitari, how is it relaed to kde?
[18:06] <Amitari> This is what happens when I try to install a program that depends on kde-runtime. http://pastebin.com/1uiCCLAs
[18:07] <Amitari> I can't run anything that requires KDE.
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Amitari,  install libkpty4
[18:09] <Amitari> BluesKay, this happened. http://pastebin.com/ybDQAZbp
[18:10] <BluesKaj> Amitari, have you updated and upgraded lately?
[18:11] <Amitari> Yes, I do that every day.
[18:11] <Amitari> Instead of shutting down my computer normally, I run a script that updates, upgrades and then shuts down.
[18:12] <BluesKaj> oh no
[18:12] <Amitari> What's wrong?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> you may be installing updgrades that can break your system without your knowing, monitoring what's being upgraded and when is too important to be left to a  startup script
[18:14] <Amitari> It's a shutdown script...
[18:14] <Amitari> But I haven't had any problems with it until now.
[18:14] <Amitari> And it didn't result from an update.
[18:14] <Amitari> It resulted from me trying to remove a terminal emulator that I didn't use.
[18:15] <BluesKaj> well maybe you should ask in #kde , since it's not really kubuntu related
[18:15] <Amitari> Alright, alright...
[18:15] <Amitari> It's on Freenode?
[18:16] <rberg_> this looks package related
[18:16] <BluesKaj> yup
[18:16] <rberg_> /looks/is/
[18:16] <Amitari> Oh, you guys know anything?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> but he need kde-workspace , might as well install kde
[18:17] <Amitari> No, I don't like KDE.
[18:17] <Amitari> I use LXDE.
[18:17]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[18:17] <Amitari> I just want the KDE-runtime to work again so I can use Kate, Okular and Ark.
[18:17] <rberg_> libutempter0 on my system points to version 1.1.5-4build1 like the libkpty4 is asking for.. but I am not sure why it cant be installed on your system
[18:17] <BluesKaj> oh sorry kde-runtime , I was mistaken
[18:18] <rberg_> (I have kubuntu updates ppa enabled though)
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Amitari, do you ever do a dist-upgrade to upgrade kernels and modules ?
[18:19] <Amitari> I always use dist-upgrade.
[18:19] <Amitari> I don't even remember how to download new packages any other way.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> Amitari, what's the matter with LXDE text editor, jpeg viewer and pdf viewer ?
[18:25] <Amitari> I don't like them.
[18:26] <Amitari> Well, Leafpad is ok...
[18:26] <Amitari> But I still prefer Kate.
[18:26] <Amitari> And the LXDE Image viewers and PDF-viewers suck.
[18:32] <BluesKaj> Amitari, looks like you're stuck in dependency hell , but I'm afraid I have no more ideas.
[18:32] <Amitari> Darn. :(
[18:32] <Amitari> I guess I'll have to ask at #kde then.
[18:33] <BluesKaj> they might be ablr to help
[18:33] <Amitari> I hope so...
[18:33] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:37] <MoonUnit`> careful with the latest kubuntu vivid updates, it broke the sddm.
[19:37] <MoonUnit`> glad i make daily root partition backups.
[19:40] <soee> MoonUnit`: what exactly is broken ?
[19:41] <MoonUnit`> updated sddm, scrren went black with kubuntu boot logo, logged into another tty to check the update finished then rebooted and got a terminal login no sddm.
[19:44] <MoonUnit`> going to try updating again but after 'apt-mark hold' the sddm updates.
[19:52] <MoonUnit`> booted ok after dist-upgrading but holding the sddm updates.
[19:55] <soee> MoonUnit`: but you ended with black screen and kubuntu logo after rebot or during upgrades ?
[19:56] <MoonUnit`> during, i've had that before after upgrading systemd so didn't think much of it.
[19:57] <soee> MoonUnit`: yes this is known, i already reported it
[19:57] <MoonUnit`> first proper break i've had with vivid.
[19:57] <soee> you can add yourself as affected https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/1430817
[19:58] <MoonUnit`> will do ty
[19:58] <soee> Jonathan already commented what can cause this
[20:34] <keithzg> lightdm seems to work fine for me on Vivid, even after the systemd jump, so there's that at least in the meantime (even though I have to manually remount / as read-write every boot and then iterate through the failed systemd services and restart them)
[23:01] <valorie> I just did updates, and am back with systemd and sddm, so this is not a universal problem
[23:52] <Marqee> hi there
[23:53] <Marqee> maybe someone can help =)
[23:54] <Marqee> got problem installing kubuntu 14.10 on gigabyte ga-z97-d3h with i7-4790k