[00:37] https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/575452372203257859/photo/1 === MooDoo is now known as Guest14970 === MooDoo is now known as Guest72899 [05:07] hi all === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi === Guest72899 is now known as MooDoo [08:08] morning all [08:20] Morning MooDoo [08:27] yo peeps [08:39] morning boys and girls. [08:45] morning [08:45] morning mammals [08:53] morning [08:56] time of day [08:57] at the third tone, the time sponsored by accurist will be bacon-3 [08:58] *bark* [09:58] Good morning all; happy World Plumbing Day! :-D [09:59] put that in a pipe and smoke it [09:59] They must be flushed with success === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:12] JamesTait: It'sa Me.....It'sa Mario!!!!! [11:13] davmor2, that was yesterday. https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/mario-day/ [11:14] JamesTait: But Mario is the worlds most famous plumber :P [11:15] nah, al gore, he invented the internet which is a series of tubes [11:16] Not Linus Torvalds? http://linuxplumbersconf.org/2015/ [11:18] It's a sign of how geeky I am that the word "plumbers" means that, rather than someone who installs and fixes things like water pipes. [11:18] I should probably get out more. [11:20] maintaining is probably not unlike plumbing [11:21] fixing leaks... [11:38] a smart person would've checked the wind speed before laying out the laundry on an outdoor clothes line [11:39] the rain told me today was not a good day to dry /klingon [11:52] clear blue skies here [11:53] here too [11:54] well, brick walls and a little patch of sky at the top from where i'm sitting [12:02] Had blue skies all morning but the temperature has plummeted now and gone all grey :( [12:03] grey and overcast here [12:03] rain all night with gusts of wind, very wintery. [12:29] popey: mvm hard is definitely more like Extreme MDK mode :D [12:40] davmor2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m56Tfyy9fWI - mvm music in that video [12:45] popey: uu level 72 start to get cramped too, that video is hilarious and the music is definitely mvm === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:40] does anyone know of any sites like novatech for barebones pc's? [13:45] is indoor shooting something you can do with friends in the UK? [13:45] or mostly clay pidgeon shooting? [13:48] i believe the house of westminster has a rifle range... === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:00] ujjain: Wolverhampton has an Olympic grade indoor shooting range [14:00] ah nice [14:00] house of westminster? :o [14:00] that could be cool, although a bit far, let me do some googling [14:02] ujjain: there are plenty across the country I just know the one at wolverhampton [14:02] ah yeah, but by public transport might be tricky [14:07] ujjain: no the riffles and stuff would be at the club rather than at home [14:09] ujjain: bisley has a lot of ranges [14:09] easy to get to from london [14:10] ahah thanks [15:18] I have signed up 2 times for a bank account and 2 times the bank made a misatke and opened a wrong bank account and immediately closed it, it shows up as lending facility requested 2 times. Does this hurt my credit score? [16:01] hi; I understand that a number of SSDs have built-in hardware encryption functionality - are such things supported by Ubuntu/Linux? I'm not having much luck finding out info on it === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === tsimpson is now known as lubotu1 === lubotu1 is now known as tsimpson === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [19:21] what phone to get..hmmm needs to be dual sim which limits choices a bit:) [19:23] does anyone have a smart watch? [19:37] not yet. they don't have a pre-order date for Ireland yet :( [19:40] best error today [19:40] XFS: file system too large to be mounted on this system. [19:40] :D [19:40] turns out a 32-bit host can't mount >16TB volumes [19:40] oops [19:41] nah it's fine, his file server has 10.04.4 still on it, so i need to reinstall anyway :) [19:41] you still have 32bit hosts? it's a Pi ? [19:41] 2GB RAM pentium dual core file server [19:41] dedi headless [19:41] ooh [19:41] I miss the p4 era [19:41] especially when my heating's bust [19:42] nah this was LGA775, so it's an E2180 i think [19:42] http://ark.intel.com/products/31733/Intel-Pentium-Processor-E2180-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB [19:42] actually, I still have a dual-quad-xeon around here somewhere [19:42] :D [19:42] I might have to hook up that arduino thermometer thing and see if it actually can raise the room temp [19:42] i've booted a live session of 14.04 and am rsync'ing the old array to the new, now [19:42] with --progress \o/ [19:44] i'm updating a tomtom for someone right now 0o [19:45] he went to Malaga and had no roads to escape the airport apparently :D [19:45] not a bug, it's a feature - they do this to the GB models intentionally ;) [19:45] hehe [19:46] just doing a 1.4GB map update 0o [21:11] lol, this article has convinced me to drop OSX in favor of Ubuntu or Fedora.. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=macbook_yosemite_4way&num=1 :) [21:15] why not opensuse [21:15] seems a clear winner [21:16] that means downloading another iso :-P [21:26] just got my birthday prezzie together - a nice new shiny chair [21:26] nice [21:26] :D [21:26] it's 1) comfy, 2) silent when I wheel it about [21:26] a good chairs a wise investment [21:26] my old one had got squeeky [21:26] indeed [21:26] the arms fell off my chair [21:26] oops [21:27] cheap rubbish though from argos [21:27] aah [21:27] so shouldnt be surprised:) [21:27] literally they snapped lol [21:27] this one's an £80ish [21:27] ok i was leaning on it..but still [21:27] lol [21:46] cool first dates is back [21:46] quite like that show [21:54] I've just started with 'black sails'. desperately running out of TV === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [22:43] heard its good [22:43] on season 1 shauno? [22:43] i made a hilarious blunder today [22:43] gah i cant find my pension application form [22:44] bought it home to read and fill out and now..no idea where i put it [22:44] i changed my xbox live account to be based in Guernsey... fired up the old xbox360, "sorry there is no xbox live in your region" [22:44] lol [22:44] thanks Microsoft [22:45] do any of you guys understand this weird loophole about online transactions for digital content being allowed to charge VAT from the originating country of the service? [22:45] presumably xbox live is based in Ireland so they can charge people VAT from there on their downloads [22:45] what's to understand? [22:45] why it's allowed :) [22:45] it isn't [22:46] since 1st of jan they changed the rules [22:46] oh is this the funny named thing that's causing business in Ireland to get the squeeze? [22:46] yes [22:46] hrmmm [22:46] now you have to pay VAT in the country where the service is used [22:46] which means you have to deal with VAT laws from 30 odd different countries [22:47] and the threshold where you have to register for VAT is no longer 80k, it's now 0 [22:47] because some countries don't have any threshold [22:47] which is no doubt why they refuse to offer the service to Guernsey residents [22:48] meanwhile the multinational companies this law was supposed to target just moved their business out of the EU entirely and then carry on as before [22:48] beacuse there's only 3 of you. It'd cost them more in time than they'd gain from sales :) [22:48] "we'd have to deal with VAT refunds then!" [22:48] shauno: :D there is that, true [22:49] does it affect us as consumers? [22:49] we'd be paying VAT anyway? [22:50] now you probably get to pay the UK rate instead of the Irish rate, i dunno which it picks [22:50] I'm not sure why it'd squeeze ireland much, VAT is 20% here. it's corporate tax that's easy [22:50] Irish VAT is 20% as well? [22:51] 23 apparently [22:51] IIRC there is an exception for tailored content, which is modified for each purchase [22:52] but only 4.8% on cattle apparently. you're not buying cows on xbox are you? [22:53] shauno: maybe... my Guernsey Golds need some friends [22:53] Cow Simulator for xbox [22:53] hm. there's a man in a van down the road, who stores random animals in abandoned lots. I might be able to hook you up :) [22:54] I have no idea what he's doing this week. they look like really hairy baby horses [22:54] there is one amusing thing, i buy xbox credit from amazon.co.uk VAT free to add to my account... so technically i get more money than i pay for :D [22:57] here we are, £10 of xbox credit from amazon - £8.33 :D [22:58] and you wonder why it might be easier to just say no :) [22:58] so it makes no diff to me pay samwe tax really? [22:58] nice daftykins [22:59] shauno: hmm? no to...? [22:59] for xbox to just say no to .ge [22:59] instead of having money going backwards [22:59] y'mean .gg? :> [23:00] (that's our TLD) [23:00] -_- [23:00] funny thing is my mates just have their bank cards on their accounts so it comes direct [23:00] i only discovered this loophole recently, i used to buy credit on ebay [23:01] random, I found out recently that Kosovo doesn't have a two-letter iso thingie [23:01] hate losing stuff such a windup :( really [23:01] what do they have shauno [23:01] that's it. they just .. don't [23:01] they use .xk I think, because .x* are reserved for nothing [23:01] hm [23:01] oh [23:01] but it's not 'theirs' [23:03] it seems whoever assigns these is so glacial they make the civil service look good [23:03] strange eh [23:03] .gi for gib [23:04] altho think my hostname is .com [23:04] gibconnect.com [23:04] that's kinda normal it seems. it seems in most cases, the smaller the registry, the more they try to milk it [23:05] ^ i have to renew my .gg soon, £45 a year =| [23:05] £90 to register + first 12 months [23:05] i've been thinking about talking to a local politician to ask why local business isn't allowed to show off their proud locality, due to being screwed for the rates ;) [23:06] shauno: IIRC Kosovo currently has the temporary code XK until it is reconised by the UN at which point ISO can issue it an official code [23:09] huh, I didn't realise they weren't recognised yet. just that they hadn't been given an official designation [23:15] shauno: Kosovo is currently not a member of the UN as 85 countries do not still recognise it [23:18] including russia? [23:19] diddledan: yes [23:20] who'd have thunk it [23:20] indeed [23:21] to be fair to russia, they just want to recreate the ussr [23:22] diddledan: I think they'd like to keep control of the imporant bits of it [23:23] it always amuses me the people who think the UK's country code is UK rather than GB [23:23] so who's got UK? :-p [23:23] no one [23:23] ukraine? [23:23] Ukraine is UA [23:23] obviously [23:23] UK is reserve on our request [23:24] UA surely fits UAE better, no? [23:24] the codes are derived from the elements of a country name which are not generic [23:24] i.e. dubai [23:24] diddledan: nope [23:24] aren't letters kinda generic tho [23:24] the terms: United, Kingdom, etc are not used to derive the code [23:25] I mean A is surely in a lot of country names [23:25] diddledan: UAE is just AE [23:26] I like how we're the only country I'm aware of that needs to tell other people that they're impressive, important etc. [23:26] we're not just Britain, we're GREAT [23:26] oh yeah, and northern ireland [23:26] we ignore them tho and hope they'll be quiet for once [23:26] diddledan: United Kingdom of Great Britian and Northen Ireland [23:27] I propose replacing Great with Amazing [23:27] diddledan: Awesome ? [23:27] horribly US word :P [23:27] Most Excellent? [23:28] Honourable [23:28] that's a joke, right? [23:28] *cough* GCHQ *cough& [23:29] "Ah did not have sexual relations with that internet" [23:29] it's not amazing. it's "big". big britain, little britain. grand britain, britany [23:30] obviously by "sexual relations" we refer to the dictionary for the words "Rape" and "Pillage" [23:30] shauno: kinda like the midget insists he's tall for his age? [23:31] We could simplify to: Great British Empire [23:31] what empire? [23:31] we gave it all back [23:32] and ever since they've all been killing each other [23:33] we can invade again [23:33] good idea. how are you fixed for tuesday? [23:33] I can pencil-in an invasion for the weekend if time is of the essence? [23:34] the question, though, do we let them know we're about to conquer them or let them find out when they wake up? [23:35] they'll find out when we erect the flag [23:35] like america did when they conquered iraq? [23:35] "mission accomplished" [23:37] I say lets have a bipartisan empire with the americans - we get the middle bit and america gets the two sides [23:37] obviously on american maps that's back asswards [23:38] jeez, chrisccoulson died? [23:38] [23:38:00] chrisccoulson (~chr1s@ubuntu/member/chrisccoulson) left IRC (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) [23:38] never knew IRC was so deadly [23:39] must have been some kind of virus [23:39] maybe. or skynet [23:40] or the sky falling down [23:40] I'd be crushed if that happened to me [23:42] IRC is already a life sucker, but to kill? :( [23:42] i replaced the boss' Lenovo X240 Intel 180GB SSD with a 512GB Crucial MX100 today \o/ [23:42] he's letting me keep the old one D: [23:43] daftykins: nice [23:43] http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31843001 <-- does that mean you're allowed to post porn that does have their consent? [23:44] i may put it in the old girl's new laptop [23:46] diddledan: I believe pornograghic pictures are permitted under the T&Cs [23:46] really? [23:46] assuming they are legal [23:46] hmm, I'll keep an eye out then [23:46] brb host restart coming up [23:47] daftykins: your local system or a proxyish thing/ [23:47] hilariously i IRC from a Linux VM atop a Windows host :D [23:47] so patch tuesday it is [23:47] that was yesterday! [23:47] yeah i delayed :P [23:47] teehee [23:47] also we only get it at 6pm of course since that's early Seattle time :> [23:48] yeah it means that wednesday in most businesses must be rather fraught with panic [23:48] diddledan: @porn