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ovrflw0xshould i install plasma 5 kubuntu?04:58
ovrflw0xis it buggy?04:58
ovrflw0xwhere is 14.10 plasma 5 kubuntu torrent?05:09
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Blue1I am having trouble getting the kubuntu desktop to display on a projector -- I get this http://picpaste.com/projector-D1ds7iMg.jpg willpaper only -- it worked correctly with debian squeeze, and also with windows 7 starter -- I tried this on 2 different projectors at 2 different locations.   Does not appear to be a hardware issue.05:38
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ahjolinnahello, does anyone else have problem with kubuntu 15.04 UEFI installation? it seems to install just fine but my ultrabook can't boot into it. I tried beta ISO and yesterday's daily ISO also07:38
valorieahjolinna: there was a bug report about that in launchpad07:41
valorieit will help if you search for that and add your input07:42
ahjolinnaI just hate launchpad, but fine07:43
valoriethank you for your contribution, ahjolinna07:44
ahjolinnavalorie: I didn't find any bug report that reflects my problem, maybe I have to make a new one...oh sigh07:53
valorieit is worth the trouble, for sure07:56
valoriewe want a perfect 15.04 rollout if possible07:57
ahjolinnavalorie: I wonder what log files are needed...I haven't used ubuntu based distro in years, feels weird...I have been using chakraOS (arch'ish based) for 3 years now , but I got kicked out from the team -_-08:05
valoriewell, the easiest way to file is to use `ubuntu-bug package`from the cli08:07
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lordievaderGood morning.09:21
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hoelkThe hardware mouse buttons of my thinkpad map to the wrong click events, any idea how i can reassign them?10:20
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v3nd3tta``darn i cant wait for 15.04 until 23.04...10:31
v3nd3tta``i'm gonna have a taste with virtualbox ;)10:34
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v3nd3tta``mh, installer - disk setup - i think kubuntu will use more than "1.0 B" x)10:54
abrahamhmm..11:00
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BluesKajHey folks13:37
azackHey14:19
azackHow come there is no torrent for kubuntu14:19
azackevery other distro can be downloaded via torrent14:19
azackI am trying to get Kubuntu 14.10 64, but no torrent14:19
Pici!torrents14:19
ubottuKubuntu Utopic Unicorn (14.10) torrents can be obtained at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/14:19
azackThat dir is empty14:21
azackwait not it's not14:21
azackI am stupid14:21
azackDoes that one use Plasma 4 or 5 though?14:21
soeeUtopic uses KDE 414:22
soeeVivid Beta 2 uses Plasma 514:22
azackbut which plasma?14:22
azackOh14:22
azackI only see beta 114:23
azackIs there a torrent for beta 2 ?14:23
azackhttp://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/vivid/beta-1/desktop/14:23
soeeazack: yes sorry, there is only Beta 1 :)14:24
azackTHanks14:25
azackI will download vivid beta 114:25
soeesure, its pretty stable and nice :)14:25
azackI am on ElementaryOS atm14:25
azackIt's a nightmare14:25
azackI do not recommend is just yet14:25
soeeoh i heard a lot of good words about it14:25
soeeanyway ots not for me - im KDE and Plasma lover :)14:26
azackIcons missing14:26
azackfaulty fonts14:26
azackBroken settings14:26
joanhow can I troubleshoot bluetooth? I'm on kubuntu 14.10 (3.16.0-31-generic #43-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 10), bluetooth is running, lsusb yields this: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode), but when I try to start bluetooth services (bluedevil, o transfer files service), the PC says "protocol dead unexpectedly14:34
joanTo be more specific: can I try any bluetooth thing on the terminal, independently from KDE stuff?14:34
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joanhow can I turn on bluetooth at the task bar?15:27
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Walex2joan: the KDE Blutooth frontend is one of many, and there is indeed a set of command line tools to troubleshoot16:04
Walex2joan: the ones you want to start with are 'hciconfig' and 'hcitool'16:04
joanyes, I've triedthem, but the problem seems to affect the dongle:  ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)16:06
joanWalex2, indeed, I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 because it was apparently a kernel problem, but upgrading didn't solve the problem. And it *did* work... argh16:09
Walex2joan: in all these cases of occasional incompatibibility the best solution by far is to get another one.16:12
Walex2joan: sometimes, whether it is BT or WiFi or fancy mice etc. one has to try 2-3 before finding one without bugs or compatiblity issues.16:13
joanon the other hand, if I turn off bluetooth from the taskbar, there's no human way to turn it off, I have to hciconfig hciX reset in order to get the bluetooth icon again16:13
Walex2joan: that's indeed strange. Maybe the dongle's fimware is just buggy. Most USB sticks of any type have buggy firmware. USB firmware gets written by the lowest bidder in Taiwan...16:14
joanWalex2, yeah, but it worked like a charm after some kernel upgrade...16:15
joanWalex2, after -> *before*16:16
Walex2joan: sometimes things work randonly too.16:17
joanWalex2, yeah, that's the annoying thing, :(16:18
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nicofrandhi17:47
nicofrandwhile doing apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade the update is stuck at "Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin" (see: http://pastebin.com/BUNd2t5F). Does anyone has an idea on how to resolve this ? I am afraid to shutdown/reboot my computer17:50
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BronzeIs kubuntu still being actively supported?18:45
Bronzelast release 2013, Wiki faw page empty18:45
Bronze*faq18:45
Bronzesorry, last release May 201418:46
PiciBronze: Sure: http://www.kubuntu.org/18:49
Pici(I don't use Kubuntu myself though)18:50
BronzePici: that's where i just came from18:50
Pici14.10 is 2014.October, not May18:50
BronzeKubuntu 14.04 LTS Submitted on Thu, 2014-04-1718:51
Bronzelate tentry on http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.0418:52
nicofrandno one can help me with my linux-image issue ?18:53
afteoyo_Hello19:07
afteoyo_I am trying to install Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 519:07
afteoyo_When I boot from my live usb I get this http://i.imgur.com/cWSj4Ih.png19:07
afteoyo_I tried startx but that didn't works19:08
BluesKajafteoyo_, which method are you using?19:08
afteoyo_What do you mean by method?19:08
afteoyo_I am booting from a USB19:09
afteoyo_defualt method19:09
afteoyo_there is no compatibility method19:09
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afteoyo_!PLEH19:11
BluesKajafteoyo_, which image did you choose for the usb ?19:12
afteoyo_Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5 64bit19:12
BluesKajand how did you install it on th eusb?19:12
BluesKajusb rather19:13
afteoyo_Universal USB installer19:13
afteoyo_A programm for windows19:13
BluesKajbest to use dd19:13
afteoyo_?19:13
BluesKajon 14.1019:14
afteoyo_I am on Win7 atm shoudl I boot into my elementaryOS partition?19:14
BluesKajso you don't have 14.10 installed at all yet19:14
afteoyo_so I can dd it?19:14
afteoyo_I do not like elementary OS19:15
BluesKajdoes elemntary have disk creator ?19:16
BluesKajnever mind dd for now19:17
afteoyo_Okay I will try 15.04 Plasma 5 first, if that fails I will resort to the dd19:17
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aftereyoBluesKaj, 15.04 Gave me the same error19:24
aftereyoI will try thy the dd method19:24
BluesKajdo you have infop about how to use dd?19:25
aftereyoI have the man pages :D19:25
BluesKajinfo19:25
BluesKajok19:25
aftereyoAnd as usual I only need about 1% of the man pages info19:25
aftereyoWow, that is a lot of information19:26
BluesKaja suggestion, dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/usb/kubuntu.iso bs=1M19:28
aftereyoI am following this guide http://askubuntu.com/a/37643019:29
BluesKaj /dev/cdrom is the source in this example it, probly in your Downloads file19:29
BluesKajok if you wish19:30
aftereyoI just don't want to burden you already, :D I am sure I will desire your help at a later point19:31
aftereyoHmm19:38
aftereyomy usb drive is not mounted at /media19:38
joanOh come on, I had to fool my Xiaomi Redmi Smartphone to accept .epub files from kubuntu 14.1019:39
joantransfer them as pdf and then rename19:39
aftereyoWhere would my usb be mounted BluesKaj ?19:41
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aftereyodo I want to mount to sdb or sdb1?19:43
bpromptjoan:   over usb-storage transfer?19:44
aftereyogoing with sdb19:45
aftereyocommand is running?19:45
aftereyoAm I not supposed to see any output?19:45
BluesKajaftereyo,  from which command?19:49
aftereyodd19:50
aftereyosudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=kubuntu-15.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso bs=1M19:50
bprompt?19:53
BluesKajaftereyo, that command should take only about 10 mins or less to finish19:54
aftereyoIt just finished19:55
aftereyoHow can I verifiy it worked correctly?19:55
bpromptaftereyo:    you could always try to mount it, with -> mount -o loop YOURFILE.iso  /mnt  <--- then "cd" to it and check it about19:58
aftereyoOkay, I will boot into it19:58
aftereyo15.04, risky frisky19:58
aftereyoplasma 5 risky ^ 219:58
bpromptaftereyo:    what are you doing anway?    burning an .iso to a usb stick?19:59
aftereyoMaking a boot able usb19:59
bpromptsudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=kubuntu-15.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso bs=1M   <--- looks more like  you're dumping a usb stick into an .iso, which is not really the same thing19:59
aftereyoOMG20:01
aftereyowhat did I do?20:01
aftereyomayor@oxen:~/Downloads$ sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=kubuntu-15.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso bs=1M20:01
aftereyo15073+0 records in20:01
aftereyo15073+0 records out20:01
aftereyo15805186048 bytes (16 GB) copied, 616.672 s, 25.6 MB/s20:01
unopasteaftereyo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted20:01
aftereyoYep, the iso file is now 16gb,20:03
aftereyowhich was the size of the usb driver20:03
bprompt16gbs of "blank" pretty much, since "dd" transfers cluster by cluster, regardless of content size20:03
aftereyoYeah, Now I have to re download the torrent20:04
aftereyothanks for pointing that out20:04
bprompthmmm20:04
bpromptyou didn't use a copy of it?   tsk tsk tsk20:04
aftereyoI wasn't expecting for this20:04
bpromptIf you don't learn life's simple law, your well being will suffer many flaws. For, if you always believe what you've always been taught, you 'll always think what you've always thought and you'll always do what you've always done and you'll always get what you always got.   ~~ T. Fry ~~20:05
aftereyoI will keep that in mind bprompt20:07
BluesKajok back, got a memory leak in 15.04, after the latest kernel version upgrade20:07
BluesKajRAM was maxed out20:08
bprompt"is Ryback dead?" ... "yes" ... "did you see the body?"    "hmm nope, I assume he was because ...."    "never assume, assumption is the mother of all messups"   ---- steven seagal's movie20:08
* bprompt ducks20:08
aftereyoBluesKaj, did you hear?20:09
aftereyoI copied the USB drive into the ISO instead20:09
aftereyoso back to square one20:09
aftereyoIs this a sign I am not ready 15.04 plasma 5?20:09
aftereyoSomeone tell me I am in way over my head20:09
bpromptaftereyo:    A pessimist see the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist see the opportunity in every difficulty.   ~~  Winston Churchill ~~20:10
aftereyobprompt, you recite many wise things, but none of them are yours ;)20:10
bpromptwell, the steven seagal one, was sorta, not really, it was in the movie :P20:11
bpromptaftereyo: We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again - and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore. ~~ Mark Twain ~~20:11
bpromptheheehe20:11
bpromptaftereyo:   to err, is to learn, just get it again, make a copy, use that, and redo the "dd" :)20:12
BluesKajaftereyo, no you just need to make sure to copy just the image/iso file to the usb stick20:12
aftereyo"Trust, but verify."  ~~ Ronald Reagan ~~20:13
BluesKajbprompt, your example is a helluva way to learn:)20:13
aftereyoI should have double checked your sample command BluesKaj20:13
bpromptaftereyo:     the redownload may take .... say  dunno 2hrs... so.... hey! remember you wanted to watch "The English Patient" again?   well, just go get some popcorn, when he gets out of the desert, the torrent will be done =)20:13
bpromptBluesKaj:  =)20:14
BluesKajnot my style20:14
aftereyoI am not familiar with the show20:14
bpromptaftereyo:   ok.. "Forrest Gump" then20:14
aftereyoOh I see bprompt you are saying I shouldn't jsut give up.20:14
bpromptaftereyo:   We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again - and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore.      ~~ Mark Twain ~~20:15
aftereyobprompt, seen it once already20:15
aftereyoI want to wait before I see it again20:15
aftereyoso I can enjoy it in all of its beauty again20:15
aftereyobprompt, are you in the US?20:17
bprompt<aftereyo> "Trust, but verify."  ~~ Ronald Reagan ~~     <---- sounds like " I love you honey, now if you just sign this prenuptial agreement"20:18
aftereyoThat's a far stretch20:19
bpromptyes, us west coast =)20:20
aftereyoCool20:21
aftereyoI want to move to the west coast one day20:21
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aftereyoI am sick of the East coast20:21
aftereyo20 minutes on the download20:23
aftereyowould 15.04 P5 be more stable than 14.10 P5?20:24
bpromptlet's see... we're in 03-15....  and this is 15.04   hmmm, wild guessing... I'd think not, then again, that's the norm20:25
aftereyoI really just want P5 on an ubuntu based distro20:28
aftereyoEven debian based would be fine20:28
BluesKajubuntu is debian based20:29
aftereyoI know20:29
aftereyoIf I want P5 couldn't I just use Linux Mint 17.1 and install plasma5? on that20:31
BluesKajmaybe, dunno much about mint20:33
OerHeksMint is slower.20:34
aftereyonope,  I cannot20:34
aftereyoOerHeks, why do you think that?20:35
BluesKajif you have kde on mint it might be20:35
aftereyoI think I will install Kubuntu 14.10 P4 and then upgrade to P%20:38
BluesKajaftereyo, https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=12215720:38
aftereyoOh boy20:40
aftereyoI think I must wait20:40
aftereyoP5 is not stable enough yet20:40
BluesKajdone for the day here...later20:42
aftereyobye20:45
bpromptaftereyo:    bear in  mind that 15.04   stands for "20"15   and 04"th month of the year", we're in march, or the 3rd one, thus20:48
joanbprompt, bluetooth transfer20:52
joanbprompt, there must be any file blocking feature activated20:53
bpromptjoan:   on the phone, maybe..... iirc    the bluetooth doesn't concern with any file extensions or types20:54
joanbprompt, yes, that's my guess too, I'll have to investigate it, but I *hate* this gadgets, argh!20:55
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vbgunzanyone know why I changed out my gtx 570 to a 960 and the 960 refuses to use the nvidia binary driver? I open driver manager and nothing shows up in there? I removed everything nvidia and reinstalled but I just can't use the driver. anyone know why?22:42
Kaliraavbgunz: Did you install the proprietary driver from Nvidia's website, or from Muon?22:49
vbgunzfrom the terminal22:49
vbgunzpretty much install nvidia 33122:49
KaliraaI mean22:49
KaliraaFrom the Ubuntu repos, though, right?22:49
vbgunzyeah22:49
soeevbgunz: what Kubuntu version, are you using 2 gpus or one22:49
vbgunz14.10, 1 gpu22:50
vbgunzhmm, when I open the driver manager nothing pops up in there, that's gotta be broken right?22:50
soeevbgunz: shoudl work in 14.1022:52
vbgunzyeah, sucks, I'm gonna test a usb stick of plasma 522:53
valorieoh my, the next ppa is deprecated - we should never tell people to use it23:03

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