[07:09] <Kilos> morning all
[08:21] <CtrlC> !lococouncil
[08:26] <CtrlC> Hi there, what happens if a local community is not satisfied with the performance of a loco team?
[08:30] <Kilos> morning dholbach  
[08:30] <Kilos> hi CtrlC  
[08:30] <dholbach> good morning
[08:30] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[08:32] <CtrlC>  Kilos: Hi.
[08:35] <Kilos> CtrlC  just an idea, have you tried encouraging them to do better?
[08:35] <Kilos> or helping them
[08:37] <Kilos> always best to try avoid conflict first
[08:37] <CtrlC> Kilos: Yes but no changes.
[08:37] <Kilos> where are you?
[08:37] <CtrlC> Yes. I'm not trying to conflict. Just asking to know what happens.
[08:38] <CtrlC> Kilos: let's not to mention anybody. Ok?
[08:38] <Kilos> many peeps have been busy the last year or so and just dont seem to have time anymore
[08:38] <Kilos> im just asking because im am trying to revive all the locos in africa
[08:39] <CtrlC> Kilos:I'm not in africa. Asia.
[08:40] <Kilos> then hang here till one of the council members gets a break
[08:40] <CtrlC> Kilos: OK, Thanks.:)
[08:53] <CtrlC> I got disconnected. Anything for me?
[08:53] <Kilos> not yet
[08:53] <Kilos> ill keep an eye open here for you
[09:01] <CtrlC> Thanks.:)
[09:02] <Kilos> np
[10:32] <CtrlC> Oh god! I don't know what's wrong with my network.
[10:32] <CtrlC> Asking again:
[10:32] <CtrlC> what happens if a local community is not satisfied with the performance of a loco team?
[10:32] <Kilos> hehe 
[10:38] <Kilos> CtrlC  you have to be very patient, some one will answer sooner or later and ill ping you
[10:39] <CtrlC> Kilos: Thank you. I'm just here. Going no where.:)
[10:39] <Kilos> remember some are in other time zones
[10:39] <Kilos> some havent woken up yet
[10:42] <CtrlC> Kilos: Never had any similar question here?
[10:43] <Kilos> i have only been here a few months so still leaning myself
[10:44] <Kilos> but just looking at the state of things in africa, everyone seems to have faded quiet a bit
[10:44] <Kilos> only 8 of the 18 locos are still going
[10:45] <CtrlC>  Kilos: What happend to the other 10?
[10:46] <CtrlC> happened *
[10:46] <Kilos> im trying to find them one at a time, but the contact peeps dont even answer their emails
[10:48] <Kilos> lol the first contact i made was with nairobilug and from there im slowly finding ubuntu users all over
[10:49] <CtrlC> What are you planning to do then? I mean after contacting/finding them?
[10:54] <Kilos> i have made an irc channel to get them all together and nag them  there
[10:54] <Kilos> lol
[10:55] <Kilos> #ubuntu-africa
[10:55] <Kilos> but everyone is so busy its mostly a quick hello that keeps us in contact
[10:57] <Kilos> oh and a wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[10:58] <CtrlC> Nice.
[12:06] <CtrlC> Kilos: Now I get what do you mean by "be patient".
[12:13] <Kilos> lol
[12:16] <Kilos> CtrlC  are your loco team ubuntu members?
[12:17] <Kilos> i dont know if there is a reprimand clause in the system
[12:18] <Kilos> we are all supposed to work together imo
[12:19] <Kilos> those that dont want to should move over and make space for those that do
[12:29] <CtrlC> I don't know what do you mean by "are your loco team ubuntu members?" I guess that's not a complete sentence?
[12:30] <Kilos> oh sorry, i mean official ubuntu members
[12:30] <CtrlC> Yes.
[12:30] <Kilos> ah then the council can talk to them i think
[12:31] <Kilos> most peeps are reasonable
[12:33] <CtrlC> Kilos: Maybe they should find a way to kinda monitor what this kind of members do. I know it's hard due to different languages. But not impossible.
[12:34] <Kilos> becoming an ubuntu member is not easy in the forst place, so they must have been commited to the cause to start with. 
[12:34] <Kilos> the trick is in finding what changed
[12:35] <Kilos> s/forst/first
[12:35] <CtrlC> Well all it needs is to other members choose you. And they always choose people like themselves.
[12:35] <Kilos> no man
[12:36] <CtrlC> Yes! It's what I saw.
[12:36] <Kilos> official ubuntu members get in by showing some contribution to ubuntu on the whole
[12:36] <Kilos> you might just have personal hassles there
[12:36] <CtrlC> Kilos: So you mean it has nothing to do with other members?
[12:37] <Kilos> to become an official ubuntu member you need to appear before the members committee
[12:38] <Kilos> members arent voted in by friends locally
[12:39] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/16403/how-to-get-ubuntu-membership
[12:41] <CtrlC> Kilos: Look I see people in my local ubuntu member group that didn't contribute anything! They just sometimes show up in ubuntu forum.
[12:41] <CtrlC> It's how it works:
[12:41] <Kilos> well lets hear what one of the council guys has to say about it
[12:42] <Kilos> you will find favouritism in local groups yes , thats human nature
[12:42] <CtrlC> You make a page on wiki about yourself and then if other members vote for yes, you'll become one.
[12:43] <Kilos> you can always in the meetime join other groups
[12:44] <Kilos> in ubuntu-za we have guys in the UAE and the states and the UK as well
[12:44] <CtrlC> Yes, but maybe the council should somehow monitor them. You know to at least find out if they're not causing community members to leave the community. 
[12:44] <Kilos> and some from the rest of africa have joined us too
[12:44] <CtrlC> Kilos: Didn't know about that!
[12:46] <Kilos> one must join where one feels welcome and can get help and help others that need help
[12:46] <CtrlC> Kilos: yes and not to make community members leave. :P :D
[12:47] <Kilos> yes thats a bad attitude
[12:49] <Kilos> if you need help with something to do with ubuntu and most linux pop in at #ubuntu-za and someone will help you
[12:49] <Kilos> but also patience is needed , the guys are very busy too
[12:54] <CtrlC> Kilos: Thats so kind of you.
[12:55] <CtrlC> Tell me more about the members which are not in your country. Are they african or what?:/
[12:55] <Kilos> we welcome and help where we can
[12:55] <Kilos> some are in tunisia 
[12:56] <Kilos> and egypt andcameroon and so on
[12:56] <CtrlC> Kilos: I mean maybe they're local but moved to other countries,
[12:56] <CtrlC> .*
[12:56] <CtrlC> Are they?
[12:56] <Kilos> some have moved yes
[12:56] <Kilos> others just joined
[12:57] <CtrlC> Nice. So whay they didn't join their local group?
[12:58] <Kilos> some belond to many things
[12:58] <Kilos> we even had some from russia visit for help
[12:59] <CtrlC> Oh!
[12:59] <Kilos> how are we supposed to promote ubuntu if we just stick in our local community
[13:27] <belkinsa> CtrlC, just e-mail them at lococouncil@ubuntu.com It might be faster that way