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mariogrip_wolflarson, Yes :)00:00
wolflarsondo you have a spot you are posting updates other than that forum? g+ perhaps?00:01
mariogrip_sure, i can post on g+00:02
mariogrip_here is my profile btw: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110699558853693437587/posts00:05
wolflarsonThanks! I will hope for updates at some point :)00:06
mariogrip_i think i smell some wifi soon. :P also it looks like rmnet interface works too00:07
cwaynepopey, you around?00:46
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wolflarsonpooooooooooooooooopey!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:52
wolflarsonWE NEED YOUR HELP!02:52
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dufluI think he prefers being called popey over poopey03:03
wolflarsonoh ...03:13
wolflarsonmy bad03:13
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AskUbuntuIt it possible to use apps for mobile? | http://askubuntu.com/q/59578804:29
verdePloooool04:49
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lotuspsychjegood morning to all07:05
Ev3rtsource server still down :\08:03
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dholbachgood morning08:31
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dpmmorning Elleo, quick q: do you know if the Emoji keyboard is activated by default on the bq phones?09:21
dpmor do users have to go to Settings first?09:21
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Elleodpm: it wasn't on by default on RTM but is on Vivid, so users will need to go to settings first09:33
dpmElleo, ok, cool, thanks09:33
Elleono problem09:33
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy World Kidney Day! :-D09:47
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tsdgeosogra_: any way to get adb shell to work on my mako when the greeter is locked?10:05
ogra_tsdgeos, this would have been disabled had you flashed with --developer-mode ...10:05
ogra_tsdgeos, beyond that, "touch /userdata/.adb_onlock"10:05
tsdgeosE_TOO_MANY_SWITCHES10:06
tsdgeostx10:06
popeyoooh, secret stuff10:08
popeyElleo: i think my eyes are broken. I got the cardboard today and tried the nexus 4, but the images don't line up10:22
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Elleopopey: I don't have a phone running Android, so I have tried any of the official stuff, only the stuff I wrote myself which is probably targettes specifically to my eyes10:33
Elleohaven't tried*10:33
KnightmareIs it possible to run a usb to ethernet adapter on UT?10:33
popeygood question!10:35
* popey tests this mad idea10:35
* popey empties out the box of usb bits on his desk10:36
popeyMar 12 10:36:36 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 2400.402905]usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using musb-hdrc10:36
popeyKnightmare: it doesn't show up as a network device so i may be missing some firmware or something10:38
Knightmarepopey: providing everything is working would it show up as a network device?10:39
popeydunno, I've tested this for like 10 seconds now :)10:39
popeyi dont know if there's some limitation on USB OTG10:39
Knightmareoh ok10:46
Knightmarewell thanks for looking anyway10:46
popeynp10:48
gcolluraHello folks, does anyone know what this error means "shm_open() failed: Permission denied"? can it be related to QAudioRecorder failing to record audio?11:15
popeygcollura: any errors show up in "sudo dmesg -T | grep DEN" ?11:33
gcollurapopey, yep they do, at first I forgot to add "microphone" to the apparmor profile, but one of them still appear11:43
gcolluratype=1400 audit(1426160562.357:545): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="com.ubuntu.telegram_telegram_1.0.21.277" name="/dev/tty" pid=14706 comm="telegram" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=011:43
popeylooks like one for jdstrand11:46
karnipopey: I notified the security team we were able to record audio without the appropriate policy group.11:52
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jgdxpopey, interesting.. does nm pick it up?13:08
popeyno13:08
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dobeycwayne: hrmm, did new untappd get published yet? my phone still says everything is up to date :-/13:16
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cwaynedobey, nope, still needs to be let through13:22
cwaynecough cough popey ^13:22
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jgdxseb128, automatic time zone detection in USS—what's the story there?13:27
seb128jgdx, we don't do it13:29
jgdxseb128, I know, but has there been any work towards it?13:29
seb128jgdx, there are a couple of bugs about that, and some people are looking into using timed13:29
pmcgowanjgdx, being worked on now13:29
jgdxpmcgowan, okay.13:29
seb128jgdx, hey, I don't remember which team, but somebody started looking at the service to get the info from the carrier13:30
seb128jgdx, why, did you want to start on that? ;-)13:30
jgdxpmcgowan, Bill knows about that?13:30
jgdxseb128, sure, I think I have a free 23 minutes after 23:30 every other week day13:31
jgdx:p13:31
popeycwayne: sure, will do when my laptop is unbroken13:31
seb128jgdx, lol13:31
cwaynepopey, thanks man (sorry you have a borked laptop though)13:31
popey[232835.496435] NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [rsync:4038]13:31
popey:(13:31
cwaynedaw13:33
pmcgowanjgdx, not sure, tony is going to work on getting NITZ working but I expect other bugs are slowing the work13:35
seb128pmcgowan, NITZ is only part of the solution, it relies on carrier info, so is not useful for e.g a tablet13:36
pmcgowanseb128, good point13:37
popeycwayne: done13:43
cwaynepopey, <313:43
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AskUbuntu_Is there a software for writing anywhere on the system with a pen/stylus on the touchscreen? | http://askubuntu.com/q/59596113:58
charlesmzanetti, ping14:05
mzanetticharles, hey14:06
charlesmzanetti, is there any design, and/or do you have any opinions, on how i-datetime should treat alarms that come from the reminder app14:06
charlesmzanetti, right now there's some discussion about changing the defaults for clock-app and alarms and calendar events, and I wanted to make sure reminder was in the loop14:07
mzanetticharles, there is no design. If you ask me, It' be awesome if the icon could be the reminders-icon instead of the calendar. for the rest I guess it's just fine as it is14:07
mzanetticharles, obviously I'd need to provide a white-only icon somehow14:07
mzanettinot sure if that fits into the organizer api14:08
mzanettior if we have another way (like finding that by appId or so)14:08
charlesmzanetti, one topic that keeps coming back is alarm duration -- there are tickets that clock-app alarms ring too long by default (30 min) and also that calendar-app alarms disappear too quickly and are easy to miss14:08
mzanetticharles, defintitely... reminders alarms are too short14:09
charlesmzanetti, I agree14:09
mzanetticharles, and 30 min for clock is too long too I'd say14:09
charlesmzanetti, I think there's not a one-size-fits-all answer, so there's got to be something in the .ics file to specify this14:10
mzanetticharles, hmm... I guess I personally would set all to 10 mins14:10
mzanetticharles, that's enough to not miss it, but it eventually gives up if the phone is home alone14:10
charlesmzanetti, I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all answer14:10
mzanettibut ok... configurable works too for me I guess14:11
mzanetticharles, Nokia phones do (did) have the 10 min one for all. and I never considered that a problem so far14:11
charlesforcing a user response for, say, a birthday reminder seems excessive14:11
charlesotoh you really don't want to miss the "time to go to the airport!" reminder14:11
charlesmzanetti, so on the noika would you say that works in practice? eg, a notification that you have to manually dismiss when there's a meeting starting in 10 minutes14:13
mzanetticharles, yes. anything that rings is to be confirmed manually14:13
charlesthat's simpler to code and test14:13
mzanettiotherwise it can be counted as "the user missed it"14:14
charlesmzanetti, thanks14:14
dobeyick :)14:14
mzanettibut... I guess there might be other opinions14:14
charlesmzanetti, I'll file a datetime ticket for letting the client app specify an icon in QOrganizer14:14
mzanetticharles, that'd be neat, yes :)14:15
dobeyhaving to manually confirm calendar alarms would be a bit annoying14:15
dobeys/alarms/reminders/14:15
charlesthe word "reminders" is now taken by the reminders app too. We need more words :)14:16
mzanettiwell, if they ring, they should be confirmed imo... otherwise I'll miss them in 99% of the cases14:16
mzanettiif I have a calendar full of stuff I would not make them ring at all14:16
seb128dobey, how would you tell that you got the reminder otherwise?14:16
mzanettiexcept for some that I *really* need to attend or so14:16
seb128same here14:16
seb128the current "ring for 5 seconds" is ridiculous14:16
mzanettiyeah :)14:17
seb128I keep missing meeting reminders14:17
mzanettiI didn't now it existed :D14:17
dobeywell "may be confirmed" and "need to be confirmed" are very different things14:17
seb128you get up 30s to get some water and come back and you missed it14:17
charles+1 on the current behavior being wrong... just not sure what The Right Thing is to replace it with14:17
dobeyand also that's what the indicators are for14:17
dobeyso turn the clock green or something after the osd notification goes away14:17
seb128indicators work when your phone is having its screen on14:17
seb128it often sits on my desk14:18
mzanettiI stick to my opinion. If I set up something that rings, it has to wake me up, no matter what, until I tell it "ok I got it"14:18
dobeywell if the screen is off, that's what the LED is for14:18
seb128I don't wake it up to look at the screen every minute14:18
charlesseb128, not saying that it's a fix for the issue, but FWIW there's a related bug for indicating missed appointments14:18
seb128dobey, right, we don't turn the led on atm14:18
seb128I would be fine with having to manually dismiss14:18
seb128or with a bit longer sound (like 30s) + led14:19
dobeymzanetti: the problem is google calendar defaults to sending me reminders in 20 different ways, and i don't need all that crap. i certainly don't want to have to pick up my phone to dismiss them all the time14:19
mzanettidobey, then you should probably not set up those events to ring14:19
dobeymzanetti: i didn't set them up to do so14:19
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mzanettihmm14:20
dobeyrequiring manual interaction because we're failing to use appropriate facilities of the phone, is the wrong solution, imo14:21
Stskeeps /g sage14:21
seb128dobey, we still need some sort of notification, is turning the screen on and rining for e.g 15 seconds fine to you?14:21
mzanettihmm.. well, I agree that if you just sync a google calendar not every entry should to be confirmed manually14:22
dobeyseb128: notification is fine. i'm not against notifications. i'm just against requiring manual dismissal of something14:22
mzanettiwhich makes me wonder how you sync the calendar, that *never* works for me14:22
seb128yeah, it's pretty random here :-/14:22
dobeywell, i'm thinking about it beyond just the scope of the phone as well14:25
dobeyand i really do not want calendar sync anyway14:26
dobeyi want multiple calendar support :)14:26
charlesmzanetti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/143138414:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1431384 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Need a mechanism for specifying an ical event's icon" [Undecided,New]14:27
mzanettinice :)14:28
rsalvetididrocks: updated bug 1427958, let me know if you need more info14:43
ubot5bug 1427958 in telepathy-qt5 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] media-hub" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142795814:43
didrocksrsalveti: should be enough, will treat it later today (or tomorrow morning), but when I looked at it, it sounds ok14:53
rsalvetididrocks: great, thanks14:53
Mirvrsalveti: hey! could you test the emulator with silo 012 Qt 5.4.1 and report back? the PPA is now final and should be regression free (AP:s run, I'll continue some manual testing still before putting to QA). note that QML cache cleaning is mandatory after upgrading to the PPA, as nowadays written at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting15:03
rsalvetiMirv: sure15:07
Mirvexcellent, thank you15:09
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cwayneTassadar, i just wanna say thanks again for multirom + n5 s-i server.  you're awesome.15:59
Tassadar\o/15:59
kenvandinealex-abreu, facebook sharing is causing the webapp-container to crash on vivid.  bug 143143016:00
ubot5bug 1431430 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/webapp-container:11:__memcpy_neon:__copy_m:__copy_move_a:__copy_move_a2:move" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143143016:00
kenvandinebfiller, ^^ did you try that on rtm yet?16:01
bfillerkenvandine: not yet, will reflash now16:01
kenvandinebfiller, thx, if you do please add rtm to that bug16:01
alex-abreukenvandine, what's your oxide version?16:02
kenvandine1.5.3-0ubuntu216:02
alex-abreukenvandine, there is an oxide bug that causes the crash16:02
alex-abreuits fixed in 1.5.516:02
kenvandineah16:02
kenvandinewill it crash in rtm as well?16:02
alex-abreuand RTM is not impacted16:02
kenvandinemaybe we don't need bfiller to test on rtm :)16:02
alex-abreusince I think it still run 1.416:02
alex-abreunope :)16:02
kenvandinebfiller, nevermind :)16:03
alex-abreuits all done yet :)16:03
bfillerI'll try anyway :)16:03
alex-abreubfiller, sure16:03
kenvandinebfiller, nothing wrong with that :)16:03
kenvandinealex-abreu, when do you think we'll get the fix in vivid?16:03
alex-abreukenvandine, next image, 1.5.5 was released to V yesterday16:03
kenvandineoh... maybe i have an image update available16:04
kenvandinealex-abreu, also.. .don't forget i asked a question on your improve-embedded-ui-params-passing branch16:04
alex-abreukenvandine, ah yes ...16:05
alex-abreukenvandine, I am finishing on the nightmare that are twitter & FB shares and will comment :)16:05
kenvandinei'd like to see that land so we can do more cool stuff :)16:05
alex-abreug+ shre I mean, not FB16:06
alex-abreukenvandine, part of that quite a few improvements will land16:06
kenvandinecool16:06
kenvandinei've got a content-hub branch that'll let us share copied text too :)16:06
kenvandineinstead of just files16:07
kenvandineso we'll need to update your bindings to include that too, once it lands16:07
alex-abreukenvandine, could you send me the MR? since I am also adding Links to things being shared for webapps16:08
alex-abreumight as well do text16:08
alex-abreuor at  least get ready for it16:08
kenvandinehttps://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/text_data/+merge/25250416:09
kenvandinealex-abreu, it'll change a bit over the next couple of days16:09
kenvandineit's not quite ready, had some good ideas to improve it16:09
alex-abreuok16:09
kenvandinealex-abreu, i will want your feedback though, because it'll let us share non-file data16:10
kenvandinelike serialized content16:10
alex-abreukenvandine, can I test it?16:10
kenvandinesee how that'll work in js16:10
kenvandinedon't bother yet, monday :)16:10
alex-abreuok :)16:10
kenvandinewhat i have works, but i'm going to change it alot :)16:10
kenvandinemaking data a QByteArray and adding a mimetype sort of type property to ContentItem16:11
kenvandinewith getters/setters for types that are useful in QML16:11
kenvandineand won't break the current API16:11
kenvandineso like ContentItem.setUrl would set data to the url and type to 'x-url'16:12
kenvandineand setText would set the type to 'plain/text' and data to the plain text content16:12
kenvandinebut then renatu can use it from c++ for vcards :)16:13
kenvandineand such16:13
DonkeyHoteirsalveti: are you still there?16:13
kenvandinealex-abreu, bfiller: i confirmed sharing works again with image 13016:14
alex-abreu:)16:14
* kenvandine closes bug16:14
jgdxkenvandine, hey, do you have an estimate on the hotspot binding review? Is there anything I can do?16:23
jgdxkenvandine, let me know if you need to defer it, that's probably not a problem16:24
jgdxci's passing, I think merging in trunk did the trick.16:24
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Briankanhello16:29
Briankani have HUGE problem with ubuntu emulator16:30
Briankanvery big16:30
BriankanCreating "ccc" from devel-proposed revision 13416:30
BriankanDownloading...16:30
BriankanSetting up...16:30
BriankanSetting up a default password for phablet to: '0000'16:30
BriankanFailed to unmount temp dir where system image was created16:30
Briankani don't see the image in Qt (Device list is empty)16:31
Briankan:'(16:36
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kenvandinejgdx, sorry, i'll review it today for sure16:44
jgdxkenvandine, wonderful16:44
Briankancan you guys help me report this bug? :'(16:46
dobeyBriankan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sdk/+filebug16:58
Briankanthanks dobey16:58
Briankanfor whatever reason your nickname is amusing to me :PPP16:59
Briankandobey dobby uh16:59
Briankanthanks again!16:59
dobeysure17:00
BriankanLost something?17:01
BriankanThis page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it.17:01
Briankandoesn't work :/17:01
Briankandobey, sorry to bother you again but are you sure it's the right link? doesn't work for me17:04
dobeyoh17:04
dobeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sdk-meta/+filebug17:04
dobeyor https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+filebug even17:05
Isotop7i try to port ubuntu phone to galaxy s4 jfltexx...lunch command is correct but if i run make it ends with error build/core/main.mk:611 and lists overridden values....can somebody help me?17:06
Briankanthanks dobey  !  :-D  \o/17:08
Isotop7error comes right after including vendor/samsung/jf-common/Android.mk...17:08
popeymariogrip: did you order a phone? :)17:18
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Isotop7may somebody help me? or give me directions on where i am able to find help?17:32
mariogrippopey, no i did not yet, I just got home.17:37
popeymariogrip: oh dear, i think they stopped selling them17:39
DonkeyHoteipopey: the meizu?17:40
popeyDonkeyHotei: no, the bq17:42
mariogrippopey, oh... well then, then i'm stuck with OnePlus intil next flash sale. Next time i will order the phone before i go out the door!17:45
mariogripuntil*17:45
Briankaninntil*17:50
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Isotop7can somebody help me with porting to s4? i get errors while make saying that values were overriden and it suddenly stops...18:00
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adrian47/bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh: initctl: not found19:40
adrian47any idea? :)19:51
adrian47it's about new base?20:03
taiebotAnyone confirm this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/143102620:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1431026 in ofono (Ubuntu) "regression cannot connect to 3g network on boot on vivid r129" [Undecided,New]20:04
popeyadrian47: known bug, due to the switch to systemd20:07
adrian47popey, thanks, how can I fix this?20:09
popeybug 143043620:09
ubot5bug 1430436 in click (Ubuntu) "15.04 kit creation fails due to create os.remove("%s/sbin/initctl" % mount)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143043620:09
popeyis that what you're seeing?20:10
seb128popey, that's fixed20:12
popeyso I wonder if adrian47 is seing something different then20:13
popeyadrian47: when do you get that error?20:13
seb128not likely20:13
seb128he had a "not found"20:13
seb128that's different20:13
adrian47cgmanager.log: '/bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh: initctl: not found'    ;    cgproxy.log and container-detect.log: '/proc/self/fd/9: 2: /proc/self/fd/9: initctl: not found'   ;20:14
popeyadrian47: doing what, what device etc?20:14
adrian47Booting my port to DHD, i had working from 20.02.15, and now  downloaded source (10.03.15) and preinstalled from the same day20:15
adrian47i see that in preinstalled (20.02.15) is /sbin/initctl, but in preinstalled (10.03.15) isn't it20:16
adrian47my perfect english... :)20:17
popeyyes, we switched from upstart to systemd20:17
seb128what command do you run?20:18
adrian47when booting UT20:18
seb128UT should still have upstart installed20:19
seb128restore it in your version I guess20:19
mark`````I would have expected that plugging in an Ubuntu Phone to my Ubuntu computer would result in a smooth transfer of my photos to my computer. But is it true that I just need to use 'adb pull' to grab all my phone's photos?20:22
adrian47seb128, only initctl file?20:24
seb128you mean?20:24
seb128install the upstart binary20:24
adrian47oh, ok20:24
adrian47but what about switching to systemd? Maybe is possible to do this? or it's not ready?20:26
seb128not ready yet20:27
seb128there is a reason we didn't switch the image20:27
nhainesmark`````: unlock the phone and you can access the files in your home folder, just like any other smart phone.20:29
taiebotanyone on my bug looks like on every boot my gsm is unavailable ^^20:31
mark`````nhaines: Okay, thanks. That means my computer config is probably at fault right now then. Thanks!20:37
nhainesmark`````: good luck!  Ubuntu 14.04 LTS or later is best for this.20:45
dobeymark`````: when you plug your phone in, with the screen unlocked, it should show up as a drive in the file manager. you can access your photos on the phone from the file manager through accessing that drive20:47
dobeymark`````: there is no automatic syncing of photos/contacts/etc… when plugging in via usb right now20:47
dobeyyay i can use untappd app/scope again20:54
cwayneneato20:55
cwaynedobey, thanks for letting me know about the bug in the first place21:21
dobeycwayne: no problem. my beer is important to me! :)21:22
dobeycwayne: what was the problem exactly?21:22
cwaynedobey, untappd dropped api support for HTTP (all HTTPS now), and I thought i'd changed all my api calls, but forgot that the qml-plugin for the account-plugin has to do one call to get the username21:23
dobeyah21:24
popeycwayne: who owns the weather channel scope?21:30
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cwaynepopey, lp:ubuntu-rest-scopes21:35
cwayneit was lucio's team21:35
karnipopey: you can reach out to Facundo if you need to talk about rest/server scopes.21:46
popeyok, thanks21:47
popeythe idea was that we might bundle the weather scope with the new weather app reboot21:47
popeyshare data between them21:47
popeyrather than have separate apps/scopes21:47
mark`````nhaines, dobey: Thanks guys. I'm still using Ubuntu 12.04 and have to fight with MTP sometimes to make it work, even with Android. Glad to know it should be working better with Ubuntu 14.04.22:00
nhainesmark`````: it got fixed in 13.04 or 13.10.  I'm very happy to say that once you upgrade you won't have to worry about it, Android or Ubuntu phone!  :)22:02
popeyMTP is terrible on android22:02
nik90anybody with N4 running vivid online? Just need some confirming a crasher bug.23:02
* nik90 prays he will not have to flash to vivid yet again :P23:02
Elleonik90: yep?23:11
nik90Elleo: Can you confirm bug 1431579 ?23:11
ubot5bug 1431579 in Ubuntu Clock App "Clock App crashes when clicking on the settings icon" [Critical,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143157923:11
nik90Elleo: You just need to confirm the bug description..(ignore my comment #1, victor will confirm that later)23:12
nik90and thnx :)23:12
Elleonik90: yep, I can reproduce it; doesn't happen every time, but it does happen23:13
Elleonik90: also it sometimes happens when going back from the settings screen23:13
nik90Elleo: ooh that's bad. Thnx for the confirmation.23:14
Elleono problem23:14

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