[00:00] <mariogrip_> wolflarson, Yes :)
[00:01] <wolflarson> do you have a spot you are posting updates other than that forum? g+ perhaps?
[00:02] <mariogrip_> sure, i can post on g+
[00:05] <mariogrip_> here is my profile btw: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110699558853693437587/posts
[00:06] <wolflarson> Thanks! I will hope for updates at some point :)
[00:07] <mariogrip_> i think i smell some wifi soon. :P also it looks like rmnet interface works too
[00:46] <cwayne> popey, you around?
[02:52] <wolflarson> pooooooooooooooooopey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:52] <wolflarson> WE NEED YOUR HELP!
[03:03] <duflu> I think he prefers being called popey over poopey
[03:13] <wolflarson> oh ...
[03:13] <wolflarson> my bad
[04:29] <AskUbuntu> It it possible to use apps for mobile? | http://askubuntu.com/q/595788
[04:49] <verdeP> loooool
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[08:03] <Ev3rt> source server still down :\
[08:31] <dholbach> good morning
[09:21] <dpm> morning Elleo, quick q: do you know if the Emoji keyboard is activated by default on the bq phones?
[09:21] <dpm> or do users have to go to Settings first?
[09:33] <Elleo> dpm: it wasn't on by default on RTM but is on Vivid, so users will need to go to settings first
[09:33] <dpm> Elleo, ok, cool, thanks
[09:33] <Elleo> no problem
[09:47] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy World Kidney Day! :-D
[10:05] <tsdgeos> ogra_: any way to get adb shell to work on my mako when the greeter is locked?
[10:05] <ogra_> tsdgeos, this would have been disabled had you flashed with --developer-mode ...
[10:05] <ogra_> tsdgeos, beyond that, "touch /userdata/.adb_onlock"
[10:06] <tsdgeos> E_TOO_MANY_SWITCHES
[10:06] <tsdgeos> tx
[10:08] <popey> oooh, secret stuff
[10:22] <popey> Elleo: i think my eyes are broken. I got the cardboard today and tried the nexus 4, but the images don't line up
[10:33] <Elleo> popey: I don't have a phone running Android, so I have tried any of the official stuff, only the stuff I wrote myself which is probably targettes specifically to my eyes
[10:33] <Elleo> haven't tried*
[10:33] <Knightmare> Is it possible to run a usb to ethernet adapter on UT?
[10:35] <popey> good question!
[10:35]  * popey tests this mad idea
[10:36]  * popey empties out the box of usb bits on his desk
[10:36] <popey> Mar 12 10:36:36 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 2400.402905]usb 1-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using musb-hdrc
[10:38] <popey> Knightmare: it doesn't show up as a network device so i may be missing some firmware or something
[10:39] <Knightmare> popey: providing everything is working would it show up as a network device?
[10:39] <popey> dunno, I've tested this for like 10 seconds now :)
[10:39] <popey> i dont know if there's some limitation on USB OTG
[10:46] <Knightmare> oh ok
[10:46] <Knightmare> well thanks for looking anyway
[10:48] <popey> np
[11:15] <gcollura> Hello folks, does anyone know what this error means "shm_open() failed: Permission denied"? can it be related to QAudioRecorder failing to record audio?
[11:33] <popey> gcollura: any errors show up in "sudo dmesg -T | grep DEN" ?
[11:43] <gcollura> popey, yep they do, at first I forgot to add "microphone" to the apparmor profile, but one of them still appear
[11:43] <gcollura> type=1400 audit(1426160562.357:545): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="com.ubuntu.telegram_telegram_1.0.21.277" name="/dev/tty" pid=14706 comm="telegram" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=32011 ouid=0
[11:46] <popey> looks like one for jdstrand
[11:52] <karni> popey: I notified the security team we were able to record audio without the appropriate policy group.
[13:08] <jgdx> popey, interesting.. does nm pick it up?
[13:08] <popey> no
[13:16] <dobey> cwayne: hrmm, did new untappd get published yet? my phone still says everything is up to date :-/
[13:22] <cwayne> dobey, nope, still needs to be let through
[13:22] <cwayne> cough cough popey ^
[13:27] <jgdx> seb128, automatic time zone detection in USS—what's the story there?
[13:29] <seb128> jgdx, we don't do it
[13:29] <jgdx> seb128, I know, but has there been any work towards it?
[13:29] <seb128> jgdx, there are a couple of bugs about that, and some people are looking into using timed
[13:29] <pmcgowan> jgdx, being worked on now
[13:29] <jgdx> pmcgowan, okay.
[13:30] <seb128> jgdx, hey, I don't remember which team, but somebody started looking at the service to get the info from the carrier
[13:30] <seb128> jgdx, why, did you want to start on that? ;-)
[13:30] <jgdx> pmcgowan, Bill knows about that?
[13:31] <jgdx> seb128, sure, I think I have a free 23 minutes after 23:30 every other week day
[13:31] <jgdx> :p
[13:31] <popey> cwayne: sure, will do when my laptop is unbroken
[13:31] <seb128> jgdx, lol
[13:31] <cwayne> popey, thanks man (sorry you have a borked laptop though)
[13:31] <popey> [232835.496435] NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 22s! [rsync:4038]
[13:31] <popey> :(
[13:33] <cwayne> daw
[13:35] <pmcgowan> jgdx, not sure, tony is going to work on getting NITZ working but I expect other bugs are slowing the work
[13:36] <seb128> pmcgowan, NITZ is only part of the solution, it relies on carrier info, so is not useful for e.g a tablet
[13:37] <pmcgowan> seb128, good point
[13:43] <popey> cwayne: done
[13:43] <cwayne> popey, <3
[13:58] <AskUbuntu_> Is there a software for writing anywhere on the system with a pen/stylus on the touchscreen? | http://askubuntu.com/q/595961
[14:05] <charles> mzanetti, ping
[14:06] <mzanetti> charles, hey
[14:06] <charles> mzanetti, is there any design, and/or do you have any opinions, on how i-datetime should treat alarms that come from the reminder app
[14:07] <charles> mzanetti, right now there's some discussion about changing the defaults for clock-app and alarms and calendar events, and I wanted to make sure reminder was in the loop
[14:07] <mzanetti> charles, there is no design. If you ask me, It' be awesome if the icon could be the reminders-icon instead of the calendar. for the rest I guess it's just fine as it is
[14:07] <mzanetti> charles, obviously I'd need to provide a white-only icon somehow
[14:08] <mzanetti> not sure if that fits into the organizer api
[14:08] <mzanetti> or if we have another way (like finding that by appId or so)
[14:08] <charles> mzanetti, one topic that keeps coming back is alarm duration -- there are tickets that clock-app alarms ring too long by default (30 min) and also that calendar-app alarms disappear too quickly and are easy to miss
[14:09] <mzanetti> charles, defintitely... reminders alarms are too short
[14:09] <charles> mzanetti, I agree
[14:09] <mzanetti> charles, and 30 min for clock is too long too I'd say
[14:10] <charles> mzanetti, I think there's not a one-size-fits-all answer, so there's got to be something in the .ics file to specify this
[14:10] <mzanetti> charles, hmm... I guess I personally would set all to 10 mins
[14:10] <mzanetti> charles, that's enough to not miss it, but it eventually gives up if the phone is home alone
[14:10] <charles> mzanetti, I don't think there's a one-size-fits-all answer
[14:11] <mzanetti> but ok... configurable works too for me I guess
[14:11] <mzanetti> charles, Nokia phones do (did) have the 10 min one for all. and I never considered that a problem so far
[14:11] <charles> forcing a user response for, say, a birthday reminder seems excessive
[14:11] <charles> otoh you really don't want to miss the "time to go to the airport!" reminder
[14:13] <charles> mzanetti, so on the noika would you say that works in practice? eg, a notification that you have to manually dismiss when there's a meeting starting in 10 minutes
[14:13] <mzanetti> charles, yes. anything that rings is to be confirmed manually
[14:13] <charles> that's simpler to code and test
[14:14] <mzanetti> otherwise it can be counted as "the user missed it"
[14:14] <charles> mzanetti, thanks
[14:14] <dobey> ick :)
[14:14] <mzanetti> but... I guess there might be other opinions
[14:14] <charles> mzanetti, I'll file a datetime ticket for letting the client app specify an icon in QOrganizer
[14:15] <mzanetti> charles, that'd be neat, yes :)
[14:15] <dobey> having to manually confirm calendar alarms would be a bit annoying
[14:15] <dobey> s/alarms/reminders/
[14:16] <charles> the word "reminders" is now taken by the reminders app too. We need more words :)
[14:16] <mzanetti> well, if they ring, they should be confirmed imo... otherwise I'll miss them in 99% of the cases
[14:16] <mzanetti> if I have a calendar full of stuff I would not make them ring at all
[14:16] <seb128> dobey, how would you tell that you got the reminder otherwise?
[14:16] <mzanetti> except for some that I *really* need to attend or so
[14:16] <seb128> same here
[14:16] <seb128> the current "ring for 5 seconds" is ridiculous
[14:17] <mzanetti> yeah :)
[14:17] <seb128> I keep missing meeting reminders
[14:17] <mzanetti> I didn't now it existed :D
[14:17] <dobey> well "may be confirmed" and "need to be confirmed" are very different things
[14:17] <seb128> you get up 30s to get some water and come back and you missed it
[14:17] <charles> +1 on the current behavior being wrong... just not sure what The Right Thing is to replace it with
[14:17] <dobey> and also that's what the indicators are for
[14:17] <dobey> so turn the clock green or something after the osd notification goes away
[14:17] <seb128> indicators work when your phone is having its screen on
[14:18] <seb128> it often sits on my desk
[14:18] <mzanetti> I stick to my opinion. If I set up something that rings, it has to wake me up, no matter what, until I tell it "ok I got it"
[14:18] <dobey> well if the screen is off, that's what the LED is for
[14:18] <seb128> I don't wake it up to look at the screen every minute
[14:18] <charles> seb128, not saying that it's a fix for the issue, but FWIW there's a related bug for indicating missed appointments
[14:18] <seb128> dobey, right, we don't turn the led on atm
[14:18] <seb128> I would be fine with having to manually dismiss
[14:19] <seb128> or with a bit longer sound (like 30s) + led
[14:19] <dobey> mzanetti: the problem is google calendar defaults to sending me reminders in 20 different ways, and i don't need all that crap. i certainly don't want to have to pick up my phone to dismiss them all the time
[14:19] <mzanetti> dobey, then you should probably not set up those events to ring
[14:19] <dobey> mzanetti: i didn't set them up to do so
[14:20] <mzanetti> hmm
[14:21] <dobey> requiring manual interaction because we're failing to use appropriate facilities of the phone, is the wrong solution, imo
[14:21] <Stskeeps>  /g sage
[14:21] <seb128> dobey, we still need some sort of notification, is turning the screen on and rining for e.g 15 seconds fine to you?
[14:22] <mzanetti> hmm.. well, I agree that if you just sync a google calendar not every entry should to be confirmed manually
[14:22] <dobey> seb128: notification is fine. i'm not against notifications. i'm just against requiring manual dismissal of something
[14:22] <mzanetti> which makes me wonder how you sync the calendar, that *never* works for me
[14:22] <seb128> yeah, it's pretty random here :-/
[14:25] <dobey> well, i'm thinking about it beyond just the scope of the phone as well
[14:26] <dobey> and i really do not want calendar sync anyway
[14:26] <dobey> i want multiple calendar support :)
[14:27] <charles> mzanetti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1431384
[14:28] <mzanetti> nice :)
[14:43] <rsalveti> didrocks: updated bug 1427958, let me know if you need more info
[14:53] <didrocks> rsalveti: should be enough, will treat it later today (or tomorrow morning), but when I looked at it, it sounds ok
[14:53] <rsalveti> didrocks: great, thanks
[15:03] <Mirv> rsalveti: hey! could you test the emulator with silo 012 Qt 5.4.1 and report back? the PPA is now final and should be regression free (AP:s run, I'll continue some manual testing still before putting to QA). note that QML cache cleaning is mandatory after upgrading to the PPA, as nowadays written at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting
[15:07] <rsalveti> Mirv: sure
[15:09] <Mirv> excellent, thank you
[15:59] <cwayne> Tassadar, i just wanna say thanks again for multirom + n5 s-i server.  you're awesome.
[15:59] <Tassadar> \o/
[16:00] <kenvandine> alex-abreu, facebook sharing is causing the webapp-container to crash on vivid.  bug 1431430
[16:01] <kenvandine> bfiller, ^^ did you try that on rtm yet?
[16:01] <bfiller> kenvandine: not yet, will reflash now
[16:01] <kenvandine> bfiller, thx, if you do please add rtm to that bug
[16:02] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, what's your oxide version?
[16:02] <kenvandine> 1.5.3-0ubuntu2
[16:02] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, there is an oxide bug that causes the crash
[16:02] <alex-abreu> its fixed in 1.5.5
[16:02] <kenvandine> ah
[16:02] <kenvandine> will it crash in rtm as well?
[16:02] <alex-abreu> and RTM is not impacted
[16:02] <kenvandine> maybe we don't need bfiller to test on rtm :)
[16:02] <alex-abreu> since I think it still run 1.4
[16:02] <alex-abreu> nope :)
[16:03] <kenvandine> bfiller, nevermind :)
[16:03] <alex-abreu> its all done yet :)
[16:03] <bfiller> I'll try anyway :)
[16:03] <alex-abreu> bfiller, sure
[16:03] <kenvandine> bfiller, nothing wrong with that :)
[16:03] <kenvandine> alex-abreu, when do you think we'll get the fix in vivid?
[16:03] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, next image, 1.5.5 was released to V yesterday
[16:04] <kenvandine> oh... maybe i have an image update available
[16:04] <kenvandine> alex-abreu, also.. .don't forget i asked a question on your improve-embedded-ui-params-passing branch
[16:05] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, ah yes ...
[16:05] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, I am finishing on the nightmare that are twitter & FB shares and will comment :)
[16:05] <kenvandine> i'd like to see that land so we can do more cool stuff :)
[16:06] <alex-abreu> g+ shre I mean, not FB
[16:06] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, part of that quite a few improvements will land
[16:06] <kenvandine> cool
[16:06] <kenvandine> i've got a content-hub branch that'll let us share copied text too :)
[16:07] <kenvandine> instead of just files
[16:07] <kenvandine> so we'll need to update your bindings to include that too, once it lands
[16:08] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, could you send me the MR? since I am also adding Links to things being shared for webapps
[16:08] <alex-abreu> might as well do text
[16:08] <alex-abreu> or at  least get ready for it
[16:09] <kenvandine> https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/text_data/+merge/252504
[16:09] <kenvandine> alex-abreu, it'll change a bit over the next couple of days
[16:09] <kenvandine> it's not quite ready, had some good ideas to improve it
[16:09] <alex-abreu> ok
[16:10] <kenvandine> alex-abreu, i will want your feedback though, because it'll let us share non-file data
[16:10] <kenvandine> like serialized content
[16:10] <alex-abreu> kenvandine, can I test it?
[16:10] <kenvandine> see how that'll work in js
[16:10] <kenvandine> don't bother yet, monday :)
[16:10] <alex-abreu> ok :)
[16:10] <kenvandine> what i have works, but i'm going to change it alot :)
[16:11] <kenvandine> making data a QByteArray and adding a mimetype sort of type property to ContentItem
[16:11] <kenvandine> with getters/setters for types that are useful in QML
[16:11] <kenvandine> and won't break the current API
[16:12] <kenvandine> so like ContentItem.setUrl would set data to the url and type to 'x-url'
[16:12] <kenvandine> and setText would set the type to 'plain/text' and data to the plain text content
[16:13] <kenvandine> but then renatu can use it from c++ for vcards :)
[16:13] <kenvandine> and such
[16:13] <DonkeyHotei> rsalveti: are you still there?
[16:14] <kenvandine> alex-abreu, bfiller: i confirmed sharing works again with image 130
[16:14] <alex-abreu> :)
[16:14]  * kenvandine closes bug
[16:23] <jgdx> kenvandine, hey, do you have an estimate on the hotspot binding review? Is there anything I can do?
[16:24] <jgdx> kenvandine, let me know if you need to defer it, that's probably not a problem
[16:24] <jgdx> ci's passing, I think merging in trunk did the trick.
[16:29] <Briankan> hello
[16:30] <Briankan> i have HUGE problem with ubuntu emulator
[16:30] <Briankan> very big
[16:30] <Briankan> Creating "ccc" from devel-proposed revision 134
[16:30] <Briankan> Downloading...
[16:30] <Briankan> Setting up...
[16:30] <Briankan> Setting up a default password for phablet to: '0000'
[16:30] <Briankan> Failed to unmount temp dir where system image was created
[16:31] <Briankan> i don't see the image in Qt (Device list is empty)
[16:36] <Briankan> :'(
[16:44] <kenvandine> jgdx, sorry, i'll review it today for sure
[16:44] <jgdx> kenvandine, wonderful
[16:46] <Briankan> can you guys help me report this bug? :'(
[16:58] <dobey> Briankan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sdk/+filebug
[16:58] <Briankan> thanks dobey
[16:59] <Briankan> for whatever reason your nickname is amusing to me :PPP
[16:59] <Briankan> dobey dobby uh
[16:59] <Briankan> thanks again!
[17:00] <dobey> sure
[17:01] <Briankan> Lost something?
[17:01] <Briankan> This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it.
[17:01] <Briankan> doesn't work :/
[17:04] <Briankan> dobey, sorry to bother you again but are you sure it's the right link? doesn't work for me
[17:04] <dobey> oh
[17:04] <dobey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sdk-meta/+filebug
[17:05] <dobey> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+filebug even
[17:06] <Isotop7> i try to port ubuntu phone to galaxy s4 jfltexx...lunch command is correct but if i run make it ends with error build/core/main.mk:611 and lists overridden values....can somebody help me?
[17:08] <Briankan> thanks dobey  !  :-D  \o/
[17:08] <Isotop7> error comes right after including vendor/samsung/jf-common/Android.mk...
[17:18] <popey> mariogrip: did you order a phone? :)
[17:32] <Isotop7> may somebody help me? or give me directions on where i am able to find help?
[17:37] <mariogrip> popey, no i did not yet, I just got home.
[17:39] <popey> mariogrip: oh dear, i think they stopped selling them
[17:40] <DonkeyHotei> popey: the meizu?
[17:42] <popey> DonkeyHotei: no, the bq
[17:45] <mariogrip> popey, oh... well then, then i'm stuck with OnePlus intil next flash sale. Next time i will order the phone before i go out the door!
[17:45] <mariogrip> until*
[17:50] <Briankan> inntil*
[18:00] <Isotop7> can somebody help me with porting to s4? i get errors while make saying that values were overriden and it suddenly stops...
[19:40] <adrian47> /bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh: initctl: not found
[19:51] <adrian47> any idea? :)
[20:03] <adrian47> it's about new base?
[20:04] <taiebot> Anyone confirm this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ofono/+bug/1431026
[20:07] <popey> adrian47: known bug, due to the switch to systemd
[20:09] <adrian47> popey, thanks, how can I fix this?
[20:09] <popey> bug 1430436
[20:10] <popey> is that what you're seeing?
[20:12] <seb128> popey, that's fixed
[20:13] <popey> so I wonder if adrian47 is seing something different then
[20:13] <popey> adrian47: when do you get that error?
[20:13] <seb128> not likely
[20:13] <seb128> he had a "not found"
[20:13] <seb128> that's different
[20:14] <adrian47> cgmanager.log: '/bin/sh: 1: /bin/sh: initctl: not found'    ;    cgproxy.log and container-detect.log: '/proc/self/fd/9: 2: /proc/self/fd/9: initctl: not found'   ;
[20:14] <popey> adrian47: doing what, what device etc?
[20:15] <adrian47> Booting my port to DHD, i had working from 20.02.15, and now  downloaded source (10.03.15) and preinstalled from the same day
[20:16] <adrian47> i see that in preinstalled (20.02.15) is /sbin/initctl, but in preinstalled (10.03.15) isn't it
[20:17] <adrian47> my perfect english... :)
[20:17] <popey> yes, we switched from upstart to systemd
[20:18] <seb128> what command do you run?
[20:18] <adrian47> when booting UT
[20:19] <seb128> UT should still have upstart installed
[20:19] <seb128> restore it in your version I guess
[20:22] <mark`````> I would have expected that plugging in an Ubuntu Phone to my Ubuntu computer would result in a smooth transfer of my photos to my computer. But is it true that I just need to use 'adb pull' to grab all my phone's photos?
[20:24] <adrian47> seb128, only initctl file?
[20:24] <seb128> you mean?
[20:24] <seb128> install the upstart binary
[20:24] <adrian47> oh, ok
[20:26] <adrian47> but what about switching to systemd? Maybe is possible to do this? or it's not ready?
[20:27] <seb128> not ready yet
[20:27] <seb128> there is a reason we didn't switch the image
[20:29] <nhaines> mark`````: unlock the phone and you can access the files in your home folder, just like any other smart phone.
[20:31] <taiebot> anyone on my bug looks like on every boot my gsm is unavailable ^^
[20:37] <mark`````> nhaines: Okay, thanks. That means my computer config is probably at fault right now then. Thanks!
[20:45] <nhaines> mark`````: good luck!  Ubuntu 14.04 LTS or later is best for this.
[20:47] <dobey> mark`````: when you plug your phone in, with the screen unlocked, it should show up as a drive in the file manager. you can access your photos on the phone from the file manager through accessing that drive
[20:47] <dobey> mark`````: there is no automatic syncing of photos/contacts/etc… when plugging in via usb right now
[20:54] <dobey> yay i can use untappd app/scope again
[20:55] <cwayne> neato
[21:21] <cwayne> dobey, thanks for letting me know about the bug in the first place
[21:22] <dobey> cwayne: no problem. my beer is important to me! :)
[21:22] <dobey> cwayne: what was the problem exactly?
[21:23] <cwayne> dobey, untappd dropped api support for HTTP (all HTTPS now), and I thought i'd changed all my api calls, but forgot that the qml-plugin for the account-plugin has to do one call to get the username
[21:24] <dobey> ah
[21:30] <popey> cwayne: who owns the weather channel scope?
[21:35] <cwayne> popey, lp:ubuntu-rest-scopes
[21:35] <cwayne> it was lucio's team
[21:46] <karni> popey: you can reach out to Facundo if you need to talk about rest/server scopes.
[21:47] <popey> ok, thanks
[21:47] <popey> the idea was that we might bundle the weather scope with the new weather app reboot
[21:47] <popey> share data between them
[21:47] <popey> rather than have separate apps/scopes
[22:00] <mark`````> nhaines, dobey: Thanks guys. I'm still using Ubuntu 12.04 and have to fight with MTP sometimes to make it work, even with Android. Glad to know it should be working better with Ubuntu 14.04.
[22:02] <nhaines> mark`````: it got fixed in 13.04 or 13.10.  I'm very happy to say that once you upgrade you won't have to worry about it, Android or Ubuntu phone!  :)
[22:02] <popey> MTP is terrible on android
[23:02] <nik90> anybody with N4 running vivid online? Just need some confirming a crasher bug.
[23:02]  * nik90 prays he will not have to flash to vivid yet again :P
[23:11] <Elleo> nik90: yep?
[23:11] <nik90> Elleo: Can you confirm bug 1431579 ?
[23:12] <nik90> Elleo: You just need to confirm the bug description..(ignore my comment #1, victor will confirm that later)
[23:12] <nik90> and thnx :)
[23:13] <Elleo> nik90: yep, I can reproduce it; doesn't happen every time, but it does happen
[23:13] <Elleo> nik90: also it sometimes happens when going back from the settings screen
[23:14] <nik90> Elleo: ooh that's bad. Thnx for the confirmation.
[23:14] <Elleo> no problem