[00:16] <cmaloney> morning
[00:17] <gamerchick02> morning?
[00:17] <gamerchick02> but howdy, either way
[00:17] <cmaloney> heh
[00:17] <gamerchick02> it's morning somewhere
[00:17] <cmaloney> I typed morning in another channel and figured I'd double down
[00:17] <gamerchick02> rick_h_ the dell is rockin
[00:17] <gamerchick02> LOL
[00:18] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: glad you like it
[00:19] <gamerchick02> :) thank you. my check should be arriving soon.
[00:19] <gamerchick02> i mailed it yesterday
[01:19] <mrgoodcat> did you buy ricks xps13?
[01:19] <gamerchick02> i did, mrgoodcat
[01:19] <gamerchick02> i love it
[01:19] <mrgoodcat> yea thats a solid machine
[01:19] <gamerchick02> i'm trying to figure out what's up with the "operating system not found" error on bootup. i press "enter" and it works but... you know
[01:19] <mrgoodcat> i've only had my hands on them a handful of times but i liked it enough
[01:20] <mrgoodcat> that's an odd problem...
[01:21] <gamerchick02> it is
[02:03] <mrgoodcat> you're running just ubuntu right? no dual boot or anything like that?
[02:05] <gamerchick02> on the Dell yes
[02:05] <gamerchick02> straight ubuntu, no mods
[02:06] <gamerchick02> i can figure it out tomorrow or something. it's getting late and my brain is kinda mush.
[11:20] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:45] <brousch> Yes
[13:04] <cmaloney> And it was good.
[13:04] <rick_h_> morning
[17:08] <greg-g> neighbor is drilling in concrete (it sounds like, can't see), which made me look through somafm's stations and pick.... the dub step one
[17:08] <greg-g> this stuff is.... great if I were 17 again
[17:12] <cmaloney> greg-g: Yeah, Dubstep great to the point where the transformers start stomping about.
[17:12] <greg-g> isn't that the entire thing?
[17:13] <cmaloney> I've heard certain songs where they have a decent beat and then CRASH Woooom wwwwwwoooooom wub wub wub wubawubbawubba brrrrrrip.
[17:13] <cmaloney> I've grown to detest it less over time
[17:13] <cmaloney> but it still kind of sucks in a "Watch the giant robot stomp about in bullet-time for no good reason" sort of way.
[17:14] <cmaloney> Like this current track
[17:15] <cmaloney> here comes the brackdown
[17:15] <mrgoodcat> i see dubstep as a gateway into bettter electronic music
[17:15] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: That's like saying Hair Metal is a gateway to better music
[17:15] <cmaloney> not everyone makes the jump
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> sad for them i guess
[17:16] <cmaloney> Though honestly a lot of electronic music sounds similar to me
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> a lot of metal sounds similar to other people
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> subjective taste etc
[17:16] <cmaloney> I mean, I'm not going to confuse Tangerine Dream with Skrillex
[17:17] <cmaloney> But I'll be damned if I can tell the difference between Breakbeat, Jungle, House, et. al
[17:17] <mrgoodcat> just takes a practiced ear
[17:17] <cmaloney> Maybe.
[17:18] <cmaloney> or perhaps I'm just not as discerning. :)
[17:18] <mrgoodcat> music seems to be one thing where familiarity breeds taste and vice-versa
[17:18] <mrgoodcat> it builds on itself
[17:18] <cmaloney> True
[17:18] <mrgoodcat> the more people listen to a genre, the more they notice about it
[17:18] <cmaloney> Could also be I don't particularly care for labels
[17:18] <mrgoodcat> and the more they notice about it the more they are able to appreciate the subtle differences
[17:19] <mrgoodcat> electronic music is perfect for people that don't like labels. so many indie electronic artists its hard to keep track of them
[17:19] <cmaloney> Whether it's blackened death metal vs. death metal vs. technical death metal I couldn't care less.
[17:19] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: True dat.
[17:19] <cmaloney> I think Electronic Music is about as useful a term as world music
[17:19] <cmaloney> or "guitar music":
[17:19] <mrgoodcat> they all claim weird genres that i can't ever even tell what they mean
[17:20] <mrgoodcat> disco-funky-trace-rock-synth
[17:20] <cmaloney> http://www.di.fm/
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> oh cool
[17:21] <cmaloney> under the "hard" button there' Psytrance, Hard Dance, JHungle, Big Room House, NIghtcore, Trap...
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> heh
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> i've been on a newgrass kick recently
[17:21] <cmaloney> Club Dubstep vs. Dubstep
[17:21] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: I can handle *grass music for one and a half songs.
[17:21] <mrgoodcat> club dubstep is much more LOUD NOISES ALL THE TIME SOO MUCH BASS MAKE SURE TO CHUG YOUR BEER AAAAHHHHH
[17:22] <mrgoodcat> yea lots of people feel that way
[17:22] <mrgoodcat> its not exactly popular
[17:22] <rick_h_> heh wife is hilarious
[17:22] <greg-g> newgrass?
[17:22] <rick_h_> "I'm going to get the snow tires taken off on Sat"
[17:23] <rick_h_> "but, it could snow still!"
[17:23] <rick_h_> "Yep, it could, but going to be getting to warm for snow tires so I'd rather not burn up $1k in tires"
[17:23] <cmaloney> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_bluegrass
[17:23] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: its like bluegrass but modern electric instruments incororated
[17:23] <rick_h_> "but what will do if it snows?"
[17:23] <mrgoodcat> basically modern bluegrass
[17:23] <greg-g> innnnteresting
[17:23] <mrgoodcat> yonder mountain string band
[17:23] <rick_h_> "exactly what you did before I got you snow tires...drive carefully?"
[17:23] <cmaloney> See, Bela Fleck I fucking love
[17:23] <mrgoodcat> newgrass revival
[17:23] <cmaloney> and here's why:
[17:23] <cmaloney> THEY DON'T FUCKING SING.
[17:23] <greg-g> bela is newgrass? I guess so
[17:24] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: my gf is the same way
[17:24] <greg-g> I love me some real appalachian bluegrass
[17:24] <mrgoodcat> i told her to take her snow tires off if she wants them to last
[17:25] <brousch> I only bluegrass if there's no singing
[17:25] <cmaloney> http://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2014/02/06/3923/Rush-2112-reference-in-indie-film-The-History-of-Future-Folk
[17:25] <cmaloney> JoDee and I tried to watch that movie
[17:25] <mrgoodcat> bela fleck is definitely newgrass
[17:25] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: yea, funny I had to talk her into snow tires a ton
[17:25] <cmaloney> We got to about the second song
[17:25] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: now she's like "but but...will my car work without them in snow" now :)
[17:25] <mrgoodcat> heh
[17:25] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Nice. :)
[17:25] <greg-g> I guess I never knew what to really call Bela before
[17:25] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: what about o' brother where art thou?
[17:25] <cmaloney> greg-g: Mr. Fleck, likely.
[17:26] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: never saw it
[17:26] <brousch> rick_h_: Reveal to her that the snow tires are just a placebo
[17:26] <cmaloney> My dad loved the sound track enough to pirate it
[17:26] <greg-g> cmaloney: :P
[17:26] <rick_h_> brousch: lies!
[17:26] <mrgoodcat> brousch: they aren't though
[17:26]  * rick_h_ loves him some snow tires
[17:27]  * cmaloney does love The Browning though. nice mix of electronic / death metal. :)
[17:27] <cmaloney> with a hint of dubstep-like stuff
[17:28] <brousch> My anecdote says they are worthless. I have been in exactly 1 winter accident, it was in a car with snow tires. I've never had snow tires any other time.
[17:28] <rick_h_> I've never figured out wtf 'dub-step' actually is
[17:30] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: club noise mostly
[17:32] <greg-g> I liked cmaloney's description of transformers stomping around, with all of the eletrical gear/pistons that implies
[17:38] <rick_h_> hah volunteers? https://twitter.com/Jimmy_Byrd/status/576070644019957761
[17:38] <rick_h_> I know of a couple of things that live over there I used
[17:40] <brousch> The Internet Archive?
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> i don't use a lot of google code things
[17:50] <cmaloney> Honestly I'm not surprised Google Code is finally getting the plug
[17:50] <cmaloney> it's been moribund for years and they've made no secret about their intent to discontinue it
[17:50] <rick_h_> wooo! launchpad outlasted google code! :P
[17:57] <cmaloney> Not sure that's much to crow about
[17:57] <rick_h_> :)
[17:57] <rick_h_> oh come on, that was funny!
[17:58] <cmaloney> Sadly, it was
[17:58] <cmaloney> Pretty sure something named Sourceforge will outlast us all
[17:58] <greg-g> they should do like what gitorious did (they were just bought by gitlab and will be shut down) and give a tarball of all the git repos to IA
[17:58] <cmaloney> and everyone will claim they never use it
[17:58] <cmaloney> greg-g: Something tells me gitorious is a little more curated than Google COde
[17:59]  * greg-g nods
[17:59] <cmaloney> I'm sure there's stuff on there that isn't 100% legal
[17:59] <greg-g> (same with IA ;) )
[17:59] <greg-g> see also: Citizen Four being on there for about 2 days
[18:00] <greg-g> I didn't know it wasn't authorized and downloaded and watched it before I found out it was removed. I think that still keeps me in the ethical bucket.
[18:00] <cmaloney> See: Certain manga series. :)
[18:00] <cmaloney> and one of the audiobooks I recently listend to
[18:00] <cmaloney> and the Oxford bible w/ annotations
[18:00] <cmaloney> That's right: I pirated the Bible. :)
[18:01] <greg-g> I don't think God needs the royalties
[18:01] <cmaloney> No, but apparently Oxford needs the DRM on the new version
[18:01] <greg-g> I mean, if he does, we're all more fucked than we thought
[18:01] <rick_h_> are you kidding me? everything with him is about the $ :)
[18:01] <greg-g> haha
[18:01] <cmaloney> Harsh but fair
[18:05] <rick_h_> http://amzn.com/1416576576 :)
[18:05] <rick_h_> interviewed on the daily show last week
[18:05] <greg-g> interesting
[18:05] <greg-g> man I want time to read again
[18:05]  * greg-g looks at Rowan, Carrie, RV, work, work, and work as the blockers
[18:05] <rick_h_> you and me both, I'm still on the same book for the last 3 weeks I think :/
[18:05] <mrgoodcat> name announced for star wars standalone film
[18:05] <brousch> Do you not work on the biggest encyclopedia evar?
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> rogue one
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> felicity jones first actress cast
[18:06] <greg-g> brousch: I wish that means I could have time to read it (or even edit, so many things I want to contribute)
[18:17] <greg-g> you know what I just realized, the drilling in the concrete next door is indistinguishable from the dubstep I'm listening to. I just realized between songs that it wasn't part of the song
[18:18] <mthx> Anyone every used Brasero to make an ISO copy of a blu-ray disk before?
[18:18] <cmaloney> Heh
[18:18] <cmaloney> greg-g: That's the best part about electronic music
[18:18] <cmaloney> You can't tell when the music ends and the environment begins
[18:18] <greg-g> :)
[18:38] <mrgoodcat> anybody know of any OSS databases that are drop in replacements for MS SQL?
[18:41] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: You'll want something that's close to Sybase
[18:41] <cmaloney> not sure anyone cloned Sybase
[18:44] <cmaloney> Honestly you'd probably have a better time migrating the data over to an OSS database like PostgreSQL
[18:45] <mrgoodcat> don't really have that choice
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> we're using GoldMine CRM and MS SQL express
[18:46] <mrgoodcat> Express has a 10 GB size limit for databases and GoldMine only speaks MS SQL
[18:46] <cmaloney> Welcome to lock-in
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> MS SQL standard is like 3k per core that you have to buy in 2 core packs
[18:47] <cmaloney> Yep. You've made a mistake. :)
[18:48] <cmaloney> You'll have to do some heroics to keep using Goldmine, pay money, or migrate off GoldMine.
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> we've been thinking about migrating away from goldmine for a while anyways
[18:48] <cmaloney> And now you have a great reason to start loking
[18:48] <cmaloney> looking
[18:48] <mrgoodcat> or we could decide that data is stale after 5 years and dump it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:49] <cmaloney> a-yep
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> although that seems like not the best option
[18:49] <cmaloney> Depends on how you value the data.
[18:49] <mrgoodcat> heh goldmine rated last place by g2 https://www.g2crowd.com/categories/crm
[18:50] <cmaloney> 5yo contacts might be the best thing ever, or not worth the effort
[18:51] <mrgoodcat> we don't really have much use for history past 5 years
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> the company owner is extremely averse to any sort of change
[18:52] <cmaloney> Well, if he's adverse to change perhaps he'll be more happy with bigger bills.
[18:52] <mrgoodcat> and also a bit paranoid that people are trying to steal company data (which since the data is basically useless to anybody but us, they are probably not)
[18:53] <cmaloney> Then it's time to have this person sign off on updating the MS-SQL server
[18:53] <cmaloney> and call it a day
[18:53] <mrgoodcat> he's chosen to pay rather than change in the past, i wouldn't be surprised if that's how this plays you
[18:53] <mrgoodcat> plays out rather
[18:53] <cmaloney> Problem solved
[22:23] <gamerchick02> Terry Pratchett died today. dunno if anyone followed his stuff. i have not but i regret not reading his books. his books will still be available though.
[23:18] <cmaloney> Yeah, I read The Color of Magic.
[23:19] <cmaloney> Apparently his later books are great, so I look forward to reading them