[00:16] morning [00:17] morning? [00:17] but howdy, either way [00:17] heh [00:17] it's morning somewhere [00:17] I typed morning in another channel and figured I'd double down [00:17] rick_h_ the dell is rockin [00:17] LOL [00:18] gamerchick02: glad you like it [00:19] :) thank you. my check should be arriving soon. [00:19] i mailed it yesterday [01:19] did you buy ricks xps13? [01:19] i did, mrgoodcat [01:19] i love it [01:19] yea thats a solid machine [01:19] i'm trying to figure out what's up with the "operating system not found" error on bootup. i press "enter" and it works but... you know [01:19] i've only had my hands on them a handful of times but i liked it enough [01:20] that's an odd problem... [01:21] it is [02:03] you're running just ubuntu right? no dual boot or anything like that? [02:05] on the Dell yes [02:05] straight ubuntu, no mods [02:06] i can figure it out tomorrow or something. it's getting late and my brain is kinda mush. === JonathanS is now known as JonathanD [11:20] Good morning [11:45] Yes [13:04] And it was good. [13:04] morning [17:08] neighbor is drilling in concrete (it sounds like, can't see), which made me look through somafm's stations and pick.... the dub step one [17:08] this stuff is.... great if I were 17 again [17:12] greg-g: Yeah, Dubstep great to the point where the transformers start stomping about. [17:12] isn't that the entire thing? [17:13] I've heard certain songs where they have a decent beat and then CRASH Woooom wwwwwwoooooom wub wub wub wubawubbawubba brrrrrrip. [17:13] I've grown to detest it less over time [17:13] but it still kind of sucks in a "Watch the giant robot stomp about in bullet-time for no good reason" sort of way. [17:14] Like this current track [17:15] here comes the brackdown [17:15] i see dubstep as a gateway into bettter electronic music [17:15] mrgoodcat: That's like saying Hair Metal is a gateway to better music [17:15] not everyone makes the jump [17:16] sad for them i guess [17:16] Though honestly a lot of electronic music sounds similar to me [17:16] a lot of metal sounds similar to other people [17:16] subjective taste etc [17:16] I mean, I'm not going to confuse Tangerine Dream with Skrillex [17:17] But I'll be damned if I can tell the difference between Breakbeat, Jungle, House, et. al [17:17] just takes a practiced ear [17:17] Maybe. [17:18] or perhaps I'm just not as discerning. :) [17:18] music seems to be one thing where familiarity breeds taste and vice-versa [17:18] it builds on itself [17:18] True [17:18] the more people listen to a genre, the more they notice about it [17:18] Could also be I don't particularly care for labels [17:18] and the more they notice about it the more they are able to appreciate the subtle differences [17:19] electronic music is perfect for people that don't like labels. so many indie electronic artists its hard to keep track of them [17:19] Whether it's blackened death metal vs. death metal vs. technical death metal I couldn't care less. [17:19] mrgoodcat: True dat. [17:19] I think Electronic Music is about as useful a term as world music [17:19] or "guitar music": [17:19] they all claim weird genres that i can't ever even tell what they mean [17:20] disco-funky-trace-rock-synth [17:20] http://www.di.fm/ [17:21] oh cool [17:21] under the "hard" button there' Psytrance, Hard Dance, JHungle, Big Room House, NIghtcore, Trap... [17:21] heh [17:21] i've been on a newgrass kick recently [17:21] Club Dubstep vs. Dubstep [17:21] mrgoodcat: I can handle *grass music for one and a half songs. [17:21] club dubstep is much more LOUD NOISES ALL THE TIME SOO MUCH BASS MAKE SURE TO CHUG YOUR BEER AAAAHHHHH [17:22] yea lots of people feel that way [17:22] its not exactly popular [17:22] heh wife is hilarious [17:22] newgrass? [17:22] "I'm going to get the snow tires taken off on Sat" [17:23] "but, it could snow still!" [17:23] "Yep, it could, but going to be getting to warm for snow tires so I'd rather not burn up $1k in tires" [17:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_bluegrass [17:23] greg-g: its like bluegrass but modern electric instruments incororated [17:23] "but what will do if it snows?" [17:23] basically modern bluegrass [17:23] innnnteresting [17:23] yonder mountain string band [17:23] "exactly what you did before I got you snow tires...drive carefully?" [17:23] See, Bela Fleck I fucking love [17:23] newgrass revival [17:23] and here's why: [17:23] THEY DON'T FUCKING SING. [17:23] bela is newgrass? I guess so [17:24] rick_h_: my gf is the same way [17:24] I love me some real appalachian bluegrass [17:24] i told her to take her snow tires off if she wants them to last [17:25] I only bluegrass if there's no singing [17:25] http://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2014/02/06/3923/Rush-2112-reference-in-indie-film-The-History-of-Future-Folk [17:25] JoDee and I tried to watch that movie [17:25] bela fleck is definitely newgrass [17:25] mrgoodcat: yea, funny I had to talk her into snow tires a ton [17:25] We got to about the second song [17:25] mrgoodcat: now she's like "but but...will my car work without them in snow" now :) [17:25] heh [17:25] rick_h_: Nice. :) [17:25] I guess I never knew what to really call Bela before [17:25] cmaloney: what about o' brother where art thou? [17:25] greg-g: Mr. Fleck, likely. [17:26] mrgoodcat: never saw it [17:26] rick_h_: Reveal to her that the snow tires are just a placebo [17:26] My dad loved the sound track enough to pirate it [17:26] cmaloney: :P [17:26] brousch: lies! [17:26] brousch: they aren't though [17:26] * rick_h_ loves him some snow tires [17:27] * cmaloney does love The Browning though. nice mix of electronic / death metal. :) [17:27] with a hint of dubstep-like stuff [17:28] My anecdote says they are worthless. I have been in exactly 1 winter accident, it was in a car with snow tires. I've never had snow tires any other time. [17:28] I've never figured out wtf 'dub-step' actually is [17:30] rick_h_: club noise mostly [17:32] I liked cmaloney's description of transformers stomping around, with all of the eletrical gear/pistons that implies [17:38] hah volunteers? https://twitter.com/Jimmy_Byrd/status/576070644019957761 [17:38] I know of a couple of things that live over there I used [17:40] The Internet Archive? [17:40] i don't use a lot of google code things [17:50] Honestly I'm not surprised Google Code is finally getting the plug [17:50] it's been moribund for years and they've made no secret about their intent to discontinue it [17:50] wooo! launchpad outlasted google code! :P [17:57] Not sure that's much to crow about [17:57] :) [17:57] oh come on, that was funny! [17:58] Sadly, it was [17:58] Pretty sure something named Sourceforge will outlast us all [17:58] they should do like what gitorious did (they were just bought by gitlab and will be shut down) and give a tarball of all the git repos to IA [17:58] and everyone will claim they never use it [17:58] greg-g: Something tells me gitorious is a little more curated than Google COde [17:59] * greg-g nods [17:59] I'm sure there's stuff on there that isn't 100% legal [17:59] (same with IA ;) ) [17:59] see also: Citizen Four being on there for about 2 days [18:00] I didn't know it wasn't authorized and downloaded and watched it before I found out it was removed. I think that still keeps me in the ethical bucket. [18:00] See: Certain manga series. :) [18:00] and one of the audiobooks I recently listend to [18:00] and the Oxford bible w/ annotations [18:00] That's right: I pirated the Bible. :) [18:01] I don't think God needs the royalties [18:01] No, but apparently Oxford needs the DRM on the new version [18:01] I mean, if he does, we're all more fucked than we thought [18:01] are you kidding me? everything with him is about the $ :) [18:01] haha [18:01] Harsh but fair [18:05] http://amzn.com/1416576576 :) [18:05] interviewed on the daily show last week [18:05] interesting [18:05] man I want time to read again [18:05] * greg-g looks at Rowan, Carrie, RV, work, work, and work as the blockers [18:05] you and me both, I'm still on the same book for the last 3 weeks I think :/ [18:05] name announced for star wars standalone film [18:05] Do you not work on the biggest encyclopedia evar? [18:06] rogue one [18:06] felicity jones first actress cast [18:06] brousch: I wish that means I could have time to read it (or even edit, so many things I want to contribute) [18:17] you know what I just realized, the drilling in the concrete next door is indistinguishable from the dubstep I'm listening to. I just realized between songs that it wasn't part of the song [18:18] Anyone every used Brasero to make an ISO copy of a blu-ray disk before? [18:18] Heh [18:18] greg-g: That's the best part about electronic music [18:18] You can't tell when the music ends and the environment begins [18:18] :) [18:38] anybody know of any OSS databases that are drop in replacements for MS SQL? [18:41] mrgoodcat: You'll want something that's close to Sybase [18:41] not sure anyone cloned Sybase [18:44] Honestly you'd probably have a better time migrating the data over to an OSS database like PostgreSQL [18:45] don't really have that choice [18:46] we're using GoldMine CRM and MS SQL express [18:46] Express has a 10 GB size limit for databases and GoldMine only speaks MS SQL [18:46] Welcome to lock-in [18:47] MS SQL standard is like 3k per core that you have to buy in 2 core packs [18:47] Yep. You've made a mistake. :) [18:48] You'll have to do some heroics to keep using Goldmine, pay money, or migrate off GoldMine. [18:48] we've been thinking about migrating away from goldmine for a while anyways [18:48] And now you have a great reason to start loking [18:48] looking [18:48] or we could decide that data is stale after 5 years and dump it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [18:49] a-yep [18:49] although that seems like not the best option [18:49] Depends on how you value the data. [18:49] heh goldmine rated last place by g2 https://www.g2crowd.com/categories/crm [18:50] 5yo contacts might be the best thing ever, or not worth the effort [18:51] we don't really have much use for history past 5 years [18:52] the company owner is extremely averse to any sort of change [18:52] Well, if he's adverse to change perhaps he'll be more happy with bigger bills. [18:52] and also a bit paranoid that people are trying to steal company data (which since the data is basically useless to anybody but us, they are probably not) [18:53] Then it's time to have this person sign off on updating the MS-SQL server [18:53] and call it a day [18:53] he's chosen to pay rather than change in the past, i wouldn't be surprised if that's how this plays you [18:53] plays out rather [18:53] Problem solved [22:23] Terry Pratchett died today. dunno if anyone followed his stuff. i have not but i regret not reading his books. his books will still be available though. [23:18] Yeah, I read The Color of Magic. [23:19] Apparently his later books are great, so I look forward to reading them