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barrydkMore almal04:29
PadroniHI barrydk05:09
Padronih spinza05:28
mazalMorning everyone05:31
Padronihi 05:40
Padronihow are you?05:40
mazalOk thanx and you Padroni05:45
Padronigood thanx05:45
Kilosmorning mazal  barrydk  Padroni  05:45
Padroniit's Thursday05:45
Padronihi kilos05:45
mazalMore oom05:45
* Padroni is back to his game05:45
Kiloslol05:46
Padroniand I am back05:49
Padronithe only custom game now worth playing05:49
Padroniis at night05:49
PadroniI can't see where the damn tanks are to bomb them05:49
Kilosai!05:49
PadroniAnd I keep on near-missing the cliffs05:49
Kilosoi05:50
KilosPadroni  you spoke about 2 things to make sites with , one was frontpage, what was the other?05:57
PadroniPublisher05:58
PadroniMS Publisher05:58
Kilosi look through my pile of books and found frontpage 200005:58
Padronibut using those are the equivalent of installing Win805:58
Padronireal developers will laugh at you...05:58
Kilosread about 5 pages in and saw it was ms frontpage and put it down05:58
Padronigood man05:58
Padronieish05:59
PadroniI need to reboot after a update installed05:59
Padronithis usually means I need to use boot-repair again05:59
Padronilet's wee what happens06:00
Kilosmy niece studied all that stuff years ago, then gave me her books when she went to namibia06:00
Kiloslol06:00
Kiloswait06:00
Kilosdid you do boot-repair from the pc not a stic06:00
PadroniI bootrepair from a stick06:01
PadroniI should probably just install it on my pc 06:01
Padroniwill do so now06:01
Kilosyou dont read what i tell you06:01
PadroniI would prefer it NOT to use UUID for boot06:02
Padronibut haven't gotten round to figuring that part out06:02
Kilosjust install boot-repair on your pc and run it 06:02
Kilosi will tell you a story when you get back06:03
Kilosmorning cocooncrash  you up early06:05
Kilosor up late i think06:05
Kiloshe used to say cocooncrash  never sleeps, then he got married06:06
Padronii am still here06:06
Kilosarent you going to reboot06:06
PadroniI have more than one pc, sir06:07
Padronithe one I am chatting on is not the one I am working on06:07
Kilosi used to run 4 drives in this pc06:07
Kilosboot-repair sorted all the boot probs but06:07
Kilosi had to follow the grup menu thing to choose06:08
Kiloswhen the first drive packed up i couldnt boot from the others06:08
Kilosthen worked out that if i wanted to use one of the others boot-repair had to be run from the one i was using as primary06:09
Padroniah06:10
Kilosso after much fiddling i found you can go to the drive you want to use and then either reinstall grub-pc i think it was or start boot-repair and when it got to the place where it says recommended repair i unplugged the other drives and just did the repair on the on i was on06:12
Kilosdoing it that way made each drive independand of the others for boot info06:12
Kilosthen update-grub just added then into the grub menu again but each one could be bootable independantly06:13
Kilosotherwise it wants to soo the drive you ran boot-repair from06:18
Kiloss/soo/see06:18
PadroniI will look into it06:20
Padronithe thing is, I don't have a lot of time on my hands06:20
Padroniand that pc runs 24/706:21
Padroniso it will have to be some weekend when I don't have any dev work to do 06:21
Kilosthen just do boot-repair from it06:21
Kilosi used to move drives around all the time, thats why i found the hassle06:21
Kiloseven running aptitude reinstall grup-pc should work06:22
Kiloshi nlsthzn  06:24
nlsthzno/ uncle Kilos 06:24
Kiloshmm...07:10
Kiloshi SDCDev  07:10
SDCDevHey Kilos07:15
Kilosmorning superfly  07:59
* Padroni waves and begs maaz for coffee08:03
Kiloslol08:03
KilosMaaz  coffee on08:03
* Maaz starts grinding coffee08:03
Kilosjust ask maazcoffee please08:03
PadroniI have the pleasure of going through a server looking for the cryptophp backdoor08:04
Padronibecaus - in an effort to save money08:04
Kilosyou have a choice with or without cremora and milk as well08:04
Squirmmorning08:04
Kiloshi Squirm  08:04
Padronipeople will rather install WP / Joomla templates they can get for free on Nulled sites08:04
Padronithan buy the f*cking thing08:04
Kilossoe08:05
Kilossjoe too08:05
Kilospeeps dont all have money08:05
KilosMaaz  with cremora08:05
MaazAh! At last someone with taste08:05
KilosMaaz  and milk08:05
MaazNow you're talking08:05
KilosMaaz  coffee for all08:05
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already08:05
Padronihey Maaz08:06
Padronido something with your life - come fetch my cup and refill it08:07
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!08:07
KilosMaaz  ty08:07
MaazYou are welcome Kilos08:07
KilosMaaz  rusks please08:07
Maazbehind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos08:07
Kiloshi TinuvaMac  08:42
TinuvaMacmorning Kilos08:43
Kilosohi Kerbero  hows things08:43
Kiloshi magellanic  08:46
magellanicheya08:47
magellanicif anyone wants to catch a repeat of our scaleconf talk: http://www.meetup.com/Cape-Town-SPIN/events/221097641/08:49
magellanicnext Wed evening in town (Cpt)08:49
Kiloswb spinza  09:07
Padronianyone here run their own web server?09:25
PadroniI have a question09:25
ThatGraemeGuynope09:25
MaazThatGraemeGuy: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell ThatGraemeGuy Nice move adding the /spawn in so peeps can see it immediately. and your reactor switch rocks" 18 hours, 3 minutes and 59 seconds ago09:25
ThatGraemeGuywe run hundreds for other people, but none of my own :-p09:25
Padronilol09:25
Padronifigured you would come up with a jab my side09:26
Padronitell me - any issues wtih CryptoPHP that you've picked up?09:26
Padroniand if so - how to you find / remove?09:26
Padroni*do09:26
ThatGraemeGuynever heard of it09:26
Padroniit's a botnet 09:27
Padronialmost exclusively installed via nulled WP / Joomla templates / plugins09:27
ThatGraemeGuyI guess our clients are good at keeping updated09:27
Padronikeeping updated isn't relevant here09:28
ThatGraemeGuylast time we had any sort of remote exploit it was an old version of moodle on an old version of PHP09:28
Padroniwhat platform do you guys host on?09:30
PadroniLinux / Win ?09:30
ThatGraemeGuydebian09:30
Padroniok09:31
PadroniFYI09:34
Padronihttps://foxitsecurity.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/cryptophp-whitepaper-foxsrt-v4.pdf09:34
ThatGraemeGuytl;dr pay for your themes09:37
Padroniindeed09:38
ThatGraemeGuyour team don't deal with the small "mom-n-pop shop" type sites, so I doubt we'd have an issue with this09:38
Padroniyou guys do servers only?09:39
Padroniie, not normal hosting, just dedicated servers?09:39
ThatGraemeGuynot exactly09:40
ThatGraemeGuyso you get shared hosting, where you get some web space and mail09:40
magespawngood day all09:40
ThatGraemeGuyand you get dedi where its much the same except you aren't sharing09:40
Padronihi magespawn09:40
Kiloshi magespawn  09:40
mazallo magespawn09:40
ThatGraemeGuydedi allows for a little bit of customisation but not a lot09:40
PadroniI know09:41
ThatGraemeGuythen we have the truserv, which is the root server, we give you hardware, you do what you want on it09:41
ThatGraemeGuymy team is somewhere between that and a managed dedi09:41
Padroniah ok09:41
ThatGraemeGuyso we take one or more truservs and fully manage it for you, with more flexibility in customisation09:42
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://www.hetzner.co.za/customhosting09:42
PadroniThat new datacentre of yours is pretty09:44
Padroni#jealous09:44
magespawnthat is funny09:45
ThatGraemeGuy?09:46
PadroniI saw the article on the broadband forums09:46
Padroniquite an impressive place.09:46
magespawni see yuppiechef is a hetzner customer09:46
ThatGraemeGuynot sure what is so funny09:46
magespawnsquirm works for them, small world09:46
Squirmmagespawn: indeed we do09:47
ThatGraemeGuyoh right :)09:47
magespawnmildly amusing, ;)09:48
Kilosai! now trello gold hits us09:53
Kilosi cant even keep up with the plastic one09:54
mazalThatGraemeGuy: What does DE stand for at the traffic section of the web hosting ?10:08
ThatGraemeGuyDeutschland10:08
mazalk10:08
mazalLooking at some of that web hosting packages of yours , very good10:09
ThatGraemeGuyhosting at Hetzner Germany is mostly a hold-over from the days when international traffic was insanely expensive, so if you had something with mostly non-local users you could host it in Germany for cheaper, but still deal with the local support/billing/etc team10:10
mazalThe only thing I can't seem to see is how much international bandwidth one get10:14
mazalI'm on this page btw : http://www.hetzner.co.za/webhosting/business/basic10:15
superflyohi10:15
ThatGraemeGuythere is no distinction between local and international bandwidth10:16
ThatGraemeGuyhttps://www.hetzner.co.za/dedicated-servers/buyersguide/data-centres, video tour thingy added for those who may be interested10:26
magellanicinteresting.10:36
Kiloshi Zafig  10:59
Zafighi Kilos11:00
ZafigCan you please perhaps advise me on an 'issue'?11:00
Kilosif i can one of the other will11:01
Kiloswhats the prob11:01
ZafigThanks11:01
Zafigi cannot use my system-config-samba11:01
ZafigI'll post my output from terminal11:02
Zafigdavid@david-MS-7817:~$ gksudo system-config-samba11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 45, in <module>11:02
Zafig    mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag)11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 82, in __init__11:02
Zafig    self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self)11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 185, in __init__11:02
Zafig    self.parseFile ()11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 225, in parseFile11:02
Zafig    token = self.createToken (line, section) 11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 310, in createToken11:02
Zafig    name, value = line.split ("=", 1)11:02
ZafigValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack11:02
Zafigdavid@david-MS-7817:~$ 11:02
Zafigdavid@david-MS-7817:~$ sudo system-config-samba11:02
Zafig[sudo] password for david: 11:02
Zafig(system-config-samba:3775): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/david/.config/ibus/bus is not root!11:02
ZafigTraceback (most recent call last):11:02
ThatGraemeGuyuse http://slexy.org for big chunks of text please11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/sbin/system-config-samba", line 45, in <module>11:02
Zafig    mainWindow.MainWindow(debug_flag)11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/mainWindow.py", line 82, in __init__11:02
Zafig    self.samba_data = sambaParser.SambaParser(self)11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 185, in __init__11:02
Zafig    self.parseFile ()11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 225, in parseFile11:02
ThatGraemeGuyugh11:02
Zafig    token = self.createToken (line, section) 11:02
Zafig  File "/usr/share/system-config-samba/sambaParser.py", line 310, in createToken11:02
KilosZafig  you should paste that kind of stuff at http://pasteboard.co11:02
Zafig    name, value = line.split ("=", 1)11:02
ZafigValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack11:02
Zafigdavid@david-MS-7817:~$ 11:02
Trixar_zaUse pastebin :|11:03
KilosZafig  copy paste all of that on http://pasteboard.co11:03
Kilosthen just give the link here11:03
Zafigokay I'll try, thanks, hang on I do it now11:03
ZafigI've just gone to your link KIlos, on pastboard, but cannot see what to do next11:04
ZafigOh, must I use an image?11:04
Kilosyou paste all the info into it then tick submit11:04
Kilosno text is good11:04
Zafigdoes it take 'text'?11:04
Kilosyes11:04
Kilosoh i have the wrong thing i think11:05
Kiloshttp://bin.snyman.info11:05
Kilosthats the one sorry11:05
Zafigokay thanks, I'll try new link11:05
Zafigokay here is the link:11:06
Zafighttp://bin.snyman.info/9zw4u11:06
Kiloscool ty now you have to be patient till someone that understand it can sort it for you11:06
Zafigthanks, thats okay, I'll hang on ...11:07
magellanicsounds like an invalid config file, did you manually edit it at some point?11:10
magellanicpastebin the config (note the bin, not here) :p11:11
Zafigyes i did manually edit. How do I call up the config file, as a text?11:16
magellanicuse gedit or kedit or something11:17
mazalor nano11:17
* Kilos likes nano11:18
ThatGraemeGuyvim!11:18
Zafigthanks. sorry, but whats the full samba config name11:18
Kiloslol vim is for clever peeps11:18
mazalI think it's /etc/samba/smb.conf11:18
ThatGraemeGuy"I've been using vim for 23 years. Mostly because I can't figure out how to exit it" -- Anonymous11:18
Zafigty11:18
Kiloslol11:19
magellanicor, run testparm, might point to where the issue is quicker11:20
Zafighttp://bin.snyman.info/93s8711:21
Zafigsorry for the delay ...11:21
magellanicshare_u_2_u, looks like it might have needed to be [share_u_2_u]11:22
ZafigI manually changed/added the lines, 261 to 26811:22
Zafigmust I put it in square brackets?11:23
magespawnlol @ ThatGraemeGuy 11:23
magellanicZafig: yes11:23
Zafigokay, ty, I'll give it a go11:23
KilosZafig  you should hang out here more often, one learns just by watching others sort things11:24
ZafigThanks, I tried to edit it using this command: gksudo gkedit /etc/samba/smb.conf, but it wont work11:28
magellanicthen use vim :p careful though, it's like hotel california, you can check out, but you can never leave :D11:29
magespawnshould that not be "sudo gedit ..."11:30
Zafigokay,not sure if I've got vim installed11:30
Zafigok, i'll try sudo gedit ...11:30
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://vim-adventures.com/ is for all you vim noobs :)11:31
magellanic"adventures" you say11:31
ThatGraemeGuyits a game that teaches you vim keys11:31
magellanicah11:32
ZafigI tried the sudo gedit .... and it worked11:32
magellanicneed one that does sublime and android studio shortcuts rather11:32
magellanic:D11:32
magespawnawesome11:32
Zafigthe SQUARE BRACKETS were the answer, it now works!11:32
ZafigThanks a lot you blokes!11:33
ZafigWithout yout input I'd never have worked it out.  Gotta get on now, its been a very helpful pit-stop ....11:34
Zafigso all the best and cheers til next time11:34
Kiloslol11:37
Kiloswell done magellanic  11:37
magellanicwas a simple issue, it's gonna be a long road ahead for him...11:39
Kilosshame11:39
magellanicit's all good, it's worth the struggle, and we'll help11:40
Kilosya but better if peeps hang here rather than only coming when they need help11:41
magellanicdepends, I go into chans on freenode to ask, then chuck :p11:42
Kilosoh my @BodyDivineSA following ubuntuza on the tweet plce12:23
Kiloshi drussell  hows davy and co.12:50
drussellKilos: good! you?12:50
Kilosgood ty12:50
Kiloswb Padroni  12:53
Padronihi12:53
Padronity12:53
Padroniodd13:01
Padroninothing loads my side...13:01
Padroniah13:01
Kilossuch as?13:01
Padroninvm13:01
Padroniwe're back13:01
Kiloslol13:01
Kiloswb Zafig  13:02
Zafigty13:02
ZafigKilos, just wanted to tell y'all that my Samba home networking and printing is working well. Thanks for help!13:03
Kilosyou are welcome. you can make this channel one of your favourites and maybe help the next guy13:04
Zafigthanks .... could be dangerous !!13:05
Kiloslol nono its dangerous when i help13:05
Zafighow do you make a favourite channel?13:05
Kilosim a greeter bot13:05
Zafiglol13:05
Kiloswhat irc client are you using13:05
Zafigxchat13:05
Kiloshmm... where you put in the channels to join you add what channels you want separated by a ,13:06
Zafigfound it ... right clicked on the .... and there it was. Done13:07
Kiloscool13:07
Zafigty13:07
Kilosyw13:08
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za13:08
ZafigTY, yep it certainly helps to have some kollective knowledge at hand in time of need ...13:09
Kilosyeah13:09
ZafigUbuntu is great, but if you stray off the beaten track it can be daunting13:09
Kiloslol13:09
Zafigi'll be on my way again. Got try and sort some other issues. Might even come back here for them. Cheers for now and all the best ...13:11
Kilosanytime13:11
Kilosgo well13:11
ZafigBFN, ty13:11
Trixar_zaHey Kilos - I just created an underground greenhouse for growing wheat13:55
Trixar_zaExcept I went a little literal and used green light sources13:55
Kiloscool13:55
Trixar_zaAlso Kilos - been messing with it for like 2 hours and I'm only at 58MB14:01
Kilosthats better ya14:07
Kiloswhen its a big world like ours it will surely use more14:08
Kilos3 reactors and maybe 4 quarries and so on14:09
Kilosand uv power to everyone14:09
Kiloshi kulelu88  14:13
Kilossjoe inetpro  sukkel julle nog steeds?14:14
Trixar_zaYeah, might be because of Technics and Mesacon mods. They're pretty heavy14:17
inetproKilos: uh?14:17
Trixar_zaI openly avoid them since they're hell on servers14:17
kulelu88Hello14:20
kulelu88I installed minetest. what do I do now14:20
kulelu88somebody threw kaka on cecil rhodes statue in cape town :D14:20
Kiloslol14:21
Kilosyou run the game then choose client and enter mt.donaldson.za.net in there and click connect14:22
* inetpro needs help with Trello and JSON14:24
Kilosinetpro  you havent left any messages there14:25
Kilosi dunno json14:25
kulelu88no password for the server??14:25
Kilosnope its your choice. i dont use one14:26
inetproKilos: ah good idea, maybe if I add a 'To Do' then someone will help me14:26
Kilosmaybe14:26
Kilosi look there first thing in the mornings14:27
kulelu88how long does it take to join? am I downloading something?14:27
Kilosbut you need to get clever peeps with what you do14:27
kulelu88JSON is quite simple actually. 14:27
Kilosya its getting stuff14:27
kulelu88easier to understand than SQL14:27
Kiloskulelu88  the first login takes a while but not more than 5 mins14:31
kulelu88it's taking a long while14:32
Kiloswhat does it say? media14:32
kulelu88connecting to server14:32
Kilosno man something not right14:33
Kilosyou put in mt.donaldson.za.net and next block should show 300014:33
kulelu88oh no I used a different port14:37
kulelu883000 or 30000?14:37
Kilos3000014:37
Kilossorry14:38
kulelu88should my firewall be unblocking anything?14:38
Kilosis it still battling14:38
kulelu88perpetually connecting. what does it say after connecting to server??14:40
Kilosthen it gets media14:40
Kilosdid you get the latest minetest?14:40
Kilosmine logs in in about 15 seconds14:41
kulelu88im on .12 version14:41
Kilossjoe14:41
kulelu88so it's the latest14:41
Kilosim on .1114:41
kulelu88let me unblock it from the firewall14:41
Kiloscan it be the firewall?14:42
kulelu88blocking incoming port possibly14:42
inetprokulelu88: I like simple, maybe I just need to get a push start14:44
kulelu88inetpro: are you also using a firewall? what rule did you add?14:45
inetproWhat I would like is a simple way to get just a text listing from any Trello list of just the description in each card14:45
inetprokulelu88: why?14:45
kulelu88oh different things we talking about @ inetpro 14:46
inetprooops... 14:46
* inetpro starts reading backlogs14:46
kulelu88inetpro: upload an example of the JSON and I will write you a script that does that14:46
Kilosinetpro  did you also get the email for trello gold?14:46
Kiloshe cant get into our minetest game pro14:47
kulelu88eeh it was the firewall14:48
kulelu88i'm in now14:48
Kiloslol14:48
inetproKilos: at this stage I have a number of months of gold already14:48
Kilosoh my i just got the email today14:49
* inetpro using trello for several other projects 14:50
inetproonly realised later, every time I add another member email address and the person subscribes I get another month of gold14:50
inetprokulelu88: are you on our trello list?14:51
inetproKilos: I'm not sure whether I really need gold though14:52
inetprokulelu88: https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco14:52
kulelu88oom you ran away as I was about to come stab you14:52
Kilosno violence man14:53
Kiloslol14:53
kulelu88u left the place? I wanted to see how to build14:55
Kilosimthere man14:55
inetprokulelu88: you can get the JSON of our board if you go to our board's Menu | Share, Print, and Export | Export JSON14:56
Kilosya better do that first. ill logout mean time14:57
kulelu88inetpro: what would you like me to do here?14:58
kulelu88extract the descriptions?14:58
inetproyes14:58
kulelu88okay shouldn14:58
kulelu88shouldn't be too hard. I'll write a Python script14:58
kulelu88but later14:59
kulelu88oom im on the bridge15:00
inetprokulelu88: as in for the 'Current Activities' list I simply want a text listing as follows:15:01
inetpro- learn to use nikola and bzr15:01
inetpro- Connect Ubuntu LoCo Teams in Africa15:01
inetpro- build ubuntu-africa site15:01
inetpro- Make a walk-through for signing the Code of Conduct.15:01
kulelu88how do you want the output? in a .txt file ?15:01
kulelu88and in that format?15:02
inetpro.txt would be perfect15:02
inetprowith such a listing it would help to copy and paste into an email as a summary report to the mailing list at the end of the month15:04
kulelu88aah okay so .txt will be fine there. 15:04
inetproyes15:04
kulelu88so what I'll do is write a script that extracts the info from a .JSON file and outputs it to .txt 15:05
kulelu88and I'll write a short description on how to run it15:05
inetprocool15:05
Kiloskulelu88  /join #minetest-za15:07
Kilosi can stay in the game it eats data15:07
Kiloscant15:07
kulelu88oom is that another empty channel :D15:07
Kilosno man its our minetest channel15:08
kulelu88I know how to move, now I just need to learn how to build15:08
Kilosso we dont spam here15:08
Kilosyou need tools 15:09
Kilosthen you need to pick a place where you want your house15:09
Kilosthen you mine and then build with what you mine15:09
Kilosi can help with lots of stuff15:09
kulelu88when will everyone be on there??15:10
Kiloshardly ever. 15:10
Kilosit eats too much data for 3g peeps15:10
Kilosbut squiand them go on at night normally15:10
KilosMaaz  seen squirm15:11
MaazKilos: squirm was last seen 5 hours, 23 minutes and 56 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-03-12 11:47:19 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-03-12 16:54:54 SAST15:11
Kilosoh my he gone too15:11
kulelu88I'll go back in there at night.15:11
=== kulelu88 is now known as kulelu88_away
Kilosanytime15:11
Kilosyou work when you bored15:11
Kilosi have lots of stuff so go to my house and lets get you some tools15:12
inetprohmm... 15:16
Kilosinetpro  what now?15:17
inetproMaaz: tell kulelu88 I added it as a ToDo item at https://trello.com/c/akP91lVs15:17
Maazinetpro: Sure, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode15:17
inetproKilos: he's away now15:17
Kilosah15:17
inetpro:-)15:17
Kiloshehe15:17
inetprobut later is fine as well15:18
inetprowill be nice if we can have that functionality15:18
Kilosto make it text?15:18
Kilosfor reports?15:19
inetproKilos: yes15:19
Kiloshow do you mean you get another month of gold when you add peeps15:19
Kilosthis mail says its free15:19
Kilosis free for one month only15:20
inetproKilos: you've just become our Admin guy :-)15:21
Kilosnono15:22
Kilosi did nothing15:22
Kilosim like a greeter bot by locoteams as well15:23
Kilosek word poegaai15:23
inetproKilos: I clicked on leave board and realised I could not exit because I was the only guys with admin rights15:23
inetproguy*15:23
Kiloshahaha15:23
Kilosjou werk is jou werk15:24
inetprocheck your Avatar15:24
inetprohas two little ^ marks now15:25
Kiloseish15:25
Kilosi dont see them so all good15:26
Kilosbut adding me as admin is evil15:27
inetproKilos: got to https://trello.com/recommend15:27
* inetpro has earned 7 free months (out of 12)15:27
inetprogo to as well15:27
Kilosno man my mail says its free15:27
KilosGet Your FREE Trello Gold15:28
inetproit's just annoying advertising, I also got one 15:28
Kilosso if i get it free, then why bother about getting it month by month15:29
Kilosi dunno what the gold does though15:29
inetproI just deleted that15:29
Kilosim bang it will add more work15:30
inetproKilos: RTFS 15:30
Kilosai!15:30
inetprosee the link above15:30
inetproit tells you15:30
Kilosi read there15:30
Kilosbut mail says its free so why try and earn it then15:30
inetproai!15:31
Kiloslol15:31
inetproKilos: it's an enticement to go click through15:31
Kilossjoe15:31
inetproclever advertising15:31
Kilosyou just want to add more work for me, i know your evil ways15:32
inetprowith Trello Gold, you can upload files up to 250 megabytes in size15:32
inetprowe really don't need that15:32
Kilosnope who pays the data15:32
Kilosmaybe the link above is old hat now they giving trello gold away for free15:33
inetproKilos: it is clickbait15:34
Kilosand i dont remember my login details15:34
Kilosya you want to catch me with the clickbait15:34
inetproKilos: me?15:34
inetproyou didn't get the mail from me man15:35
Kiloswell who gave the link above15:35
inetprodamn!15:35
inetprowat verstaan jy nie oom15:35
Kilosyou told them about me15:35
inetpro?15:35
Kiloslol15:35
inetproI'm trying to explain it to you, I'm not saying you should get gold15:35
inetprowe do not need gold15:36
* inetpro don't need gold15:36
Kiloswhat will change with gold? do you see anything different to me15:36
inetproif I want gold I will mine for it in minetest15:36
Kiloslol15:36
inetproai! Something wrong with his eyes?15:37
Kiloseye15:37
Kilosone blind and other one also cant see15:37
inetproai! Something wrong with his one eye?15:37
Kilosrofl15:38
Kilosi get we dont need gold so i go delete that email15:38
inetprothank you15:39
inetproKilos: it's clickbait15:39
Kilosi dont know what clickbait is man15:40
inetprocontent, especially that of a sensational or provocative nature, whose main purpose is to attract attention and draw visitors to a particular web page15:40
Kilosman clickbait says no man pages for clickbait15:40
Kilosonly things i want free is my kde and airtime15:41
inetprook, maybe not quite sensational or provocative but it's a teaser15:41
Kilosty i understand that now15:41
Kilosthats how they get peeps to open bad emails with bugs in?15:42
inetproyebo yes, nou verstaan jy!15:42
inetproit's the freemium model15:42
inetpronot open source15:42
Kilosoh15:43
Kilosjust got a mail too that says Gustav H Meyer made you an admin on the board Ubuntu South Africa LoCo15:43
Kilosit never ends15:43
inetprohaha :-)15:43
Kilosdidnt i say nono15:43
Kilosai! ek sukkel met my volk man15:44
Kilosim sure the lococouncil guys are getting tired of me there too15:44
Kilosoh locoteams15:45
Kilossome poor okey in asia unhappy with his loco so i told him to bomb them15:46
Kilosmy magellanic  you still here15:47
Kilosty we need the rain15:47
Kilosai!15:47
Kilosmagespawn  15:47
inetproKilos: bomb them? 15:58
inetproai!15:58
inetprothat's not nice15:58
Kilosyes put a lrge amount of explosives in their meeting room15:58
inetprosjoe15:58
Kiloswell they nasty to him15:58
Kiloslol15:59
Kilosno man im joking15:59
Kilosim sure you read what i said anyway15:59
Kilosyou always scheming how to add more work15:59
inetprono time to read today15:59
Kilosyay15:59
Kiloswhat is broken there15:59
inetprooverworked and underpaid :-)16:00
inetproand moeg16:00
Kilosno man your 2 appies are3 offline16:00
inetprooh, they're asleep 16:01
inetprothanks for reminding me16:01
Kilosthe deep sleep?16:01
* inetpro will talk to them tomorrow16:01
Kilosand tell them its now law to greet in the morning16:01
inetprowill tell them16:02
Kiloslol16:03
inetpronot sure they will listen16:03
Kilostyake your plastic sjambok with16:03
* inetpro needs the crocodile skin one of yours16:06
Kilossea cow16:06
inetprolol16:06
Kilosive seem then strip skin off16:06
Kilospote4nt things16:07
Kilospotent16:07
inetproheh, we not allowed to promote violence here16:08
Kiloslol16:08
Kilosmaybe i must apply for the council thing16:09
Kilosnoone else seems to have time16:09
Kilosand its only ubuntu that suffers16:09
magespawngotta gp home time. chat later16:24
Kilosok magespawn  16:24
Kilosgo safe16:24
SymmetriaR.I.P Terry Pratchett :(16:25
=== kulelu88_away is now known as kulelu88
Kilosi go ea16:58
Kiloseat too16:59
Kilosgremble  wb17:20
Kiloshi captine  17:20
captinehi there17:21
captinequiet in here tonight17:36
Kilospeeps still eating and resting i think17:39
Kilosand the pro is thinking i spose17:40
Kiloshow he is gonna torment me more17:40
magespawngood evening18:06
Kiloshi mages18:07
Kilosai!18:07
magespawnthat classifies as an oops18:08
Kiloslol18:08
Kiloswb18:08
magespawnty18:09
magespawnhappens when you have tabbed terminals open18:09
Kilosah you hit the x18:09
magespawnsomething like that18:15
grembleHey Kilos 18:18
Kilosgrumbles why you been so scarce man18:21
Kilosare you at least studying hard18:21
magespawnhttp://resources.infosecinstitute.com/n00bs-ctf-labs-infosec-institute/18:23
magespawnfor those who want a bit of fun ^18:24
inetprogood evening18:53
Kilosyoohooo he got it right18:53
inetproKilos: no18:53
Kiloslo my pro18:53
Kilosno what?18:53
inetpro03/12 19:40:02 <Kilos> and the pro is thinking i spose18:54
inetpro03/12 19:40:14 <Kilos> how he is gonna torment me more18:54
Kilosrofl id forgotten about that18:54
* inetpro has enough other responsibilities 18:55
kulelu88anybody playing minetest tonight?18:55
Maazkulelu88: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell kulelu88 I added it as a ToDo item at https://trello.com/c/akP91lVs" 3 hours, 37 minutes and 31 seconds ago18:55
kulelu88Hey Maaz 18:55
Kilosi was there just now to see if you were there18:55
Kiloskulelu88  there used to be guides on how to do things18:55
inetproKilos: how to do what?18:56
Kilosbuild stuff on minetest18:56
inetproyikes! What happened to the guides?18:57
Kilosive forgotten where to find them18:57
inetproKilos: you mean like this? http://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house18:58
Kiloshttp://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_build_your_first_house18:58
Kiloshaha18:58
Kilosim too slow18:58
inetpro:-)18:58
Kiloshttp://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting18:58
* inetpro can see google has become his friend18:59
Kiloshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-KBXRwNctI18:59
Kilosna spottys friend18:59
Kilosyou know who spotty is hey inetpro  ?19:00
inetproKilos: you should add spotty to #minetest-za19:00
Kilosspotty is georgl_  s bot19:00
Kiloshere tells me you not my boss19:01
Kiloswow they killed qa again19:01
Kilosblame squirm19:01
inetprooh and Kilos, I see you gave some very good advice in locoteams19:02
Kilosoh did i19:02
* inetpro is thinking he would make a awesome member of the council19:03
Kilosi havent enough service19:03
Kiloswas looking at the requirements just now19:03
inetprokeep working on it19:03
Kilosand i havent the know how to evaluate tech input19:04
inetprohow so?19:04
Kiloslike for example. evaluating packages and so on19:05
kulelu88I see raoul there19:05
Kilostechnical contributions19:05
Kiloskulelu88  go see what he is doing19:05
Kiloswb Squirm  19:10
Kilosyou killed QA?19:10
Kiloshi Trixar_za  19:10
inetprouh19:11
inetproSquirm = Trixar_za?19:11
KilosMaaz  define uh19:11
MaazKilos: I don't know about uh. Maybe you meant H, u, Ugh, Puh, Ah, CH, Eh, LH, Oh, Th, Um, Un-, Up, Ur, Us, Ut, h, uuh, uhf, bh, lh, nh, oh, ph, rh, th, uk, un, up, ur, us, ut, uv, u-, uha, uhc, uhl, ah, mh, ui, ua, uc, ul, ue or uw?19:11
Kilosno man they use the same server19:11
inetproMaaz: uh19:11
Maazuh means I don't really want to do it but i will if i have to19:11
Kiloslol19:11
inetprooh19:11
Kilosand they killed QA19:12
inetprowhere's the sjambok?19:12
* Kilos cries, everyone is nasty to me19:12
inetproai!19:13
Kilossob19:13
kulelu88why can't I lay stones??19:13
Kilosright click with the stone active in you bottom panel thing19:13
kulelu88I am19:14
kulelu88I'm trying to lay the stones but nothing happens. I'm with raoul in the dungeon19:14
Kilosyou see where it shows your tools19:14
Kilosmove till stone is highlighted then right click19:15
kulelu88the stone is in my hand and I am right-clicking with it19:15
Kilostry pres q19:16
Kilosive forgotten so much19:16
Kilossuperfly  is there a telporting point near the dungeon where you okes are19:17
Kilosive never seen the dungeon i think19:18
kulelu88I went right down to get here19:18
Kiloslol19:18
Kilosthere must be an entrance some where19:18
inetprokulelu88: you on ubuntu?19:19
kulelu88yeah19:19
inetprokulelu88: version?19:20
kulelu8814.0419:20
inetprohmm....19:21
kulelu88maybe I need to register to build19:22
kulelu88I have 99 blocks19:22
inetprokulelu88: no19:22
inetprokulelu88: have you tried locally?19:23
inetproplay in singleplayer mode19:23
kulelu88single player works but nothing on the server19:27
Kilosno matter where you try build them?19:27
kulelu88yeah wherever I dig with the spade or use any item, nothing happens19:28
Kiloswow19:28
Kilossomething funny happening there19:29
superflyit's an incompatibility with the server. The server is built using the latest git19:29
superflyor a bug in the latest builds, anyways19:29
superflywhen I logged in using my actual account, it worked fine19:30
kulelu88i killed superfly though19:30
Kiloseish19:30
kulelu88or at least he had zero health 19:30
kulelu88:D19:30
Kilosya you cant shakes hands if you got a pick in them19:31
Kilosgive him some apples19:31
Kilosgo right click on my fridge and take some cooked meat19:32
kulelu88im not on there now. hopefully someone fixes it soon :(19:33
Kilostry installing .1119:38
Kilosor .1019:38
kulelu88is the server old(er)?19:38
Kiloshi magespaw1  19:38
Kilosthe server was updated last week or week before and my .11 works19:39
Kilosinetpro  whats yours?19:39
Kilosand your version superfly  ?19:39
inetproMinetest 0.4.12-dev19:41
Kilosoh wow mine is Minetest 0.4.1119:41
* inetpro installed the daily build and then disabled the daily ppa19:42
kulelu88I'm on the latest build also.19:42
superflyi think mine is 4.1119:42
superfly0.4.1119:42
Kilossame as mine and mine works19:42
magespaw1hey19:43
superflylike I said, it's not our clients, it's the server19:43
Kilosdo you think the -dev makes a diffs inetpro  19:43
=== magespaw1 is now known as magespawn
inetpromust be the server19:43
inetproas pointed out by superfly19:44
magespawnbetter19:44
Kilosya but how come ours work and his doesnt19:44
Kiloswb magespawn  19:44
inetpromine also doesn't19:44
Kilosoh19:44
* inetpro quickly joined as ghost and left again19:45
Kilosthen he must try 0.4.1119:45
inetprono man, ThatGraemeGuy will fix it19:45
inetprowhen he has time19:45
Kilosoh19:46
Kilosthen mine wont work anymore?19:46
superflyKilos: It's new accounts that have a problem, and this is why I say it is the server.19:47
Kilosoh ty for that19:48
magespawninetpro: do you use wireshark?19:48
Kilosthere pro19:48
inetpromagespawn: been a long time but yes19:49
inetprosuperfly: ah19:49
inetpromagespawn: sup?19:49
Kiloswe got a lekker full channel for midweek19:50
magespawnjust reading up on it here infosecinstitute.com, and i was also looking at http://ctf.infosecinstitute.com/levelone.php19:50
magespawni am looking to complete the security + exam somewhere in the next year or less if i can manage19:52
Kilosgood luck19:52
magespawnthanks Kilos, might need a little more than luck though19:53
Kilosno man just study lots19:53
Kilosyou can do it19:53
magespawnmm, that is more than luck then19:54
Kilosyes we make our own luck most of the time19:55
Kilosnow and again the big boss lends a hand19:55
Kilosoh kulelu88  you didnt spawn in the hut either?19:57
magespawni am off to bed, good night all20:14
Kilosnight magespawn  20:17
Kilossleep tight20:17
kulelu88I dunno where I spawned. I think I shall try getting that certification also20:17
kulelu88noted20:17
Kilosactually kulelu88  login as me and see if that works20:19
Kilosjust dont break my house20:19
inetprokulelu88: I found a solution20:19
Kilosha 20:19
inetproat least in part20:19
Kilostell tell man20:20
inetprokulelu88: https://github.com/brettweavnet/trello_cli20:20
inetprotrello card list -b 54cd182d23088850225728fb -l 54cd2fb19ebd9ad885a0b067 20:20
Kiloslol20:20
Kilosi thought you tslking about minetest20:21
inetprothat ^^ will list the cards in "Current Activities" list 20:21
inetproKilos: no20:21
Kilosmaybe i must go sleep20:21
* inetpro is on a different mission20:21
Kiloskeyboard getting blurry20:22
Kilosi noticed20:22
magellanic_ThatGraemeGuy: around?20:22
Kilosno he has no adsl at home, cables stolen20:23
magellanic_eish20:23
inetprobye mages[tab]20:24
Kiloslol20:24
kulelu88inetpro: that might work also. you can just login to the CLI and extract it like that20:27
inetproyep, it's working, but20:27
inetproit pulls a bit more than I want20:27
Kiloslol20:27
inetproit also pulls out the description inside the card, but I can sort that with grep20:28
inetproand awk20:28
kulelu88so you probably dont need my script now :D20:28
kulelu88good work finding it and not making us redo it20:28
inetprothere's quite a number of ways to do it20:29
inetproI see there's a whole api thingy20:29
Kilosnight all . sleep tight20:29
Kilosinetpro  dont break stuffs20:29
inetprouh20:30
kulelu88we can play with the API also20:30
magellanic_Maaz: tell ThatGraemeGuy to see this post: https://plus.google.com/+MarkClarke/posts/ZDXQ8CxAjHK20:31
Maazmagellanic_: Got it, I'll tell ThatGraemeGuy on freenode20:31
* inetpro lol @magellanic_20:32
inetpro"no tickets requesting me to log a ticket about my ticket"20:32
inetprosounds so familiar20:32
kulelu88inetpro: you're the accountant right?20:34
inetprokulelu88: nope20:34
kulelu88programmer?20:34
inetprosysadmin jack of all trades and master of none20:34
kulelu88where are you working currently?20:35
inetprohmm... that shall rather not be public20:35
magellanic_I'm kinda in the same boat inetpro :p20:37
kulelu88yeah we don't want your large corporate employer knowing you're playing minetest while on the gig :D20:37
inetprohaha, I wish I had the time for that20:38
kulelu88i'm thinking of getting my LPiCs. do you have them?20:38
inetproLPiCs?20:39
magellanic_mine are certainly expired20:39
kulelu88http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs20:40
inetproah, nope20:40
inetpropeople who care can figure out where I work very easily20:44
inetproand I don't mind giving my opinion in public but simply can't trust everyone on here 20:45
inetprooh and I often wish my bosses would join us here 20:46
inetprocould be fun20:46
magellanic_inetpro: I think I met you at an ubuntu release party in centurion, like 5-7 years ago20:46
inetpromagellanic_: that would be at the Irene Mall?20:46
magellanic_yes20:47
inetprointeresting20:47
kulelu88i'll come for the next release party. me + old white guys :D20:47
inetprowe should arrange another release party20:48
inetproeven my son enjoyed that one20:48
* superfly knows everybody's secrets, and ain't tellin' nobody!20:49
inetpro:-)20:49
magellanic_someone still bought a cake20:49
magellanic_was fun20:49
magellanic_:)20:49
inetprobought?20:49
magellanic_made20:49
inetproexactly20:49
magellanic_ubuntu themed yes20:50
magellanic_was it you?20:50
inetprothat was made by my wife and oldest daughter20:50
magellanic_ah20:50
inetproand they all use Ubuntu, still20:51
magellanic_we very much enjoyed the cake, and day20:51
kulelu88it's been so many years but its always small events for anything geeks do :(20:52
magellanic_good memories ;) I remember the area we sat in, I think I dished out iso's or cd's, we had cake, everyone had ad gadget the place had to run extension plugs for us, good fun :D20:53
* inetpro can't remember all the faces20:57
inetprowas a bit noisy if I remember correctly but was good fun indeed20:58
magellanic_same, it was too long ago20:58
magellanic_yeah it was noisy20:58
magellanic_well, ~7 years later, thanks again for the cake :D20:58
inetprolol20:59
magellanic_night all21:12

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