| nerdistmonk | worked up the nerve and yanked upstart-bin | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| nerdistmonk | no ill effects from what i can see. | 00:03 |
| Unit193 | nerdistmonk: Except, you lost upstart user sessions and your indicators no longer work... | 00:32 |
| nerdistmonk | i dont use XFCE indicator | 00:32 |
| nerdistmonk | its already gone on my system | 00:32 |
| nerdistmonk | Your going to have to refresh me on what upstart user sessions do, i don't consciously use them unless its one of those important background tasks. | 00:34 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-session used them. | 00:35 |
| nerdistmonk | oh i see that thingy in "sessions and startup" that i always turn off. | 00:37 |
| nerdistmonk | :P | 00:37 |
| Unit193 | Not likely, but anyway... | 00:38 |
| nerdistmonk | yeah sessions i just looked xfce-session is the thing that saves every program/window you had open during logout. | 00:39 |
| knome | Unit193, ping | 01:17 |
| Unit193 | knome: No! | 01:17 |
| Unit193 | :P | 01:17 |
| knome | for what? | 01:17 |
| Unit193 | knome: Whatchaneed? | 01:21 |
| knome | a pair of eyes | 01:23 |
| Unit193 | Mmmm, mine aren't great, only slightly better than elfy's. | 01:24 |
| knome | that's fine | 01:24 |
| knome | ok, ready soon | 01:25 |
| knome | Unit193, https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1504 | 01:29 |
| knome | Unit193, so, does it look sane at all? | 01:34 |
| bluesabre | Unit193? sane? hmm | 01:36 |
| Unit193 | The diffs look sane, though I do not like the indenting of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1504/revision/669 | 01:36 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre may have a point. | 01:37 |
| Unit193 | (I'm sure the rest of them are like that though. so. :P ) | 01:38 |
| knome | heh | 01:40 |
| knome | pushing to main branch then | 01:41 |
| knome | bluesabre, you like the monkey? | 01:42 |
| knome | bluesabre, let me flesh out the memory | 01:42 |
| knome | bluesabre, didn't somebody tell you they won't give you the upload perms for the slideshow, and that somebody who has the perms will do it on request? | 01:43 |
| bluesabre | knome: yeah, I think that was the case | 01:45 |
| knome | so do you want to poke people with that now or...? :) | 01:45 |
| knome | was there a way to check who has upload permissions for a specific package? | 01:45 |
| Unit193 | ubuntu-core-dev, kubuntu-dev, ubuntu-desktop people in those teams. | 01:47 |
| bluesabre | ^ | 01:50 |
| knome | bluesabre, so you want to poke people about that? | 01:50 |
| bluesabre | knome: I'll mention it to infinity | 01:51 |
| knome | thanks | 01:51 |
| bluesabre | he was going to rebuild some stuff for me tonight/tomorrow | 01:51 |
| knome | please also mention to update the translation templates | 01:51 |
| bluesabre | so that goes along with it | 01:51 |
| knome | and thanks | 01:51 |
| bluesabre | oh... is that not part of it? | 01:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, i didn't do it | 01:51 |
| knome | i can look into doing it | 01:51 |
| knome | but i've never done it :) | 01:52 |
| knome | (i think) | 01:52 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:52 |
| knome | oh | 01:54 |
| knome | make pot | 01:54 |
| Unit193 | ok | 01:54 |
| knome | ;) | 01:54 |
| knome | guess that was too easy. | 01:55 |
| knome | bluesabre, now the branch has the translation templates up-to-date too | 01:55 |
| bluesabre | lol | 01:55 |
| Unit193 | So what's Xfce's plan with Xfwm4 and -DMONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP? | 03:57 |
| elfy | Unit193: ftr - my eyes are fine - it's everyone else :p | 07:20 |
| Unit193 | Ahh. | 07:20 |
| elfy | obvious really | 07:20 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-notifyd/0.2.4-3ubuntu1 ones like that you want to use build1, as autosync will then run on that package. | 09:18 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-dict, ah you already know this. Nevermind then. | 09:19 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: I'm learning as I go :) | 10:54 |
| brainvvash | bluesabre, trusty users who upgraded to xfce 4.12 via ppa encounter the qt theming problem | 11:18 |
| knome | well, aren't we telling them they use the PPA at their own risk? | 11:19 |
| brainvvash | how is that possible? | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | brainvvash: no idea | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | obviously something used to tell qt what to do | 11:19 |
| bluesabre | and now it doesn't | 11:19 |
| brainvvash | it looks like that | 11:20 |
| brainvvash | xfce4-settings? | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | what they can do is install and set qt-config | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | or not use a ppa | 11:20 |
| knome | qt4-qtconfig | 11:20 |
| bluesabre | probably something in xfsettingsd | 11:21 |
| brainvvash | the question is, did Xfce change anything to trigger the theming issue? It always looked like qt was the culprit | 11:21 |
| bluesabre | it probably did at some point | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | good luck finding the commit in the last 3 years of development | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | then again, I'm not sure if should be up to xfce to set the qt theme | 11:22 |
| bluesabre | mate also has the same problem | 11:22 |
| brainvvash | indeed | 11:23 |
| brainvvash | trusty has xfce4-settings 4.11.2, utopic 4.11.3 | 11:23 |
| brainvvash | we noticed this issue in utopic, and x-d-s installs the skel qt config file | 11:24 |
| bluesabre | right | 11:24 |
| brainvvash | I'll check if other distros are affected too | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | ok | 11:27 |
| brainvvash | could be ubuntu specicifc | 11:27 |
| brainvvash | specific | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | knome: you may want to ping #ubuntu-devel folks if you don' | 11:27 |
| bluesabre | t see a slideshow upload in the next hour or so | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | infinity finished uploading the rest of xfce a few moments ago | 11:28 |
| bluesabre | so that may very well land in vivid-release today | 11:29 |
| knome | mhm | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | I'm looking forward to getting to bug fixes once all these uploads are finally done :) | 11:31 |
| knome | heh | 11:31 |
| knome | i'm looking forward to the status tracker looking much better after all the uploads are done | 11:32 |
| brainvvash | bluesabre, bug 1305294 | 12:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1305294 in upstart (Ubuntu) "QT uses incorrect theme when GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID is unset" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1305294 | 12:22 |
| brainvvash | setting this env var allows qt to determine the correct theme style, tested with "GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=123 clementine" | 12:25 |
| brainvvash | unity has GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated | 12:26 |
| brainvvash | bluesabre, there is also QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk | 14:42 |
| brainvvash | could be used instead of putting the conf file into the skel directory | 14:44 |
| brainvvash | actually, this one does not work | 14:50 |
| nerdistmonk | man that was a fast kernel update lol | 15:28 |
| elfy | thanks nerdistmonk - I thought for a moment that I was dreaming yesterdays :) | 15:29 |
| nerdistmonk | yeah, same here, i swore i just got a new version of 3.19 just last night | 15:29 |
| elfy | yea - you did | 15:29 |
| nerdistmonk | oh well, i like new and shiny lol | 15:29 |
| nerdistmonk | at least wine finally got updated | 15:30 |
| elfy | wouldn't have a clue about that | 15:30 |
| nerdistmonk | it hadn't been updated in 7 weeks (unrelated to this room obviously) | 15:30 |
| elfy | never used wine | 15:31 |
| nerdistmonk | i use it all the time, its a cornerstone for me. | 15:31 |
| elfy | well - not for years | 15:31 |
| nerdistmonk | Couldn't play simcity 4 without it, couldn't play alot of stuff without it. | 15:32 |
| nerdistmonk | reboot time for nerdy | 15:34 |
| drc | what is "oneconf-query"? I keep getting (ad odd times) this error. | 15:41 |
| drc | again :( | 15:46 |
| drc | To hell with it...now I have to have an UbuntuOne account to auto-report a bug? I'm done with Canonical. Sorry guys, I really like Xubuntu and the community (a lot), but am tired of the crap one has to put up from "higher". | 15:52 |
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| ochosi | !team | progress for V is looking great – good job, everyone! http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-v/group/topic-v-flavor-xubuntu.html | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | Noskcaj: I know Corsac had some objection to the latest screenshooter, but what about taskmanager 1.1.0? | 20:30 |
| Noskcaj | Unit193, I've not heard anything. Do you want me to check or can you? | 20:31 |
| Unit193 | Well, just generally wondering if he had an objection, or if it was likely just missed. I think it may have gone GTK3. | 20:36 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: the latest taskmanager can be built with gtk2 or 3 | 21:42 |
| knome | bluesabre, yai, Riddell's going to handle the slideshow upload if you didn't pick that up yet :) | 21:42 |
| bluesabre | knome: great | 21:45 |
| bluesabre | I saw that all the packages finally landed today as well | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Hmm. So I'll just go with 'missed' | 21:45 |
| bluesabre | yes | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | 'missed' indeed | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | but thankfully not myst | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | those games suck | 21:46 |
| bluesabre | :) | 21:46 |
| knome | ha | 21:46 |
| elfy | hi bluesabre :) | 21:48 |
| bluesabre | hey elfy, how goes? | 21:48 |
| elfy | ok thanks - you? | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | good | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | just got home, and getting ready to eat dinner | 21:49 |
| elfy | \o/ | 21:49 |
| knome | what are you having then? :P | 21:49 |
| bluesabre | noodle bowl and a chicken patty | 21:50 |
| knome | mhm | 21:50 |
| elfy | I'm assuming it's not cat-pawed chicken | 21:50 |
| knome | surely yummy | 21:50 |
| knome | elfy, who knows... ;) | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | lol | 21:50 |
| bluesabre | the box says chicken | 21:51 |
| bluesabre | and thats all I know | 21:51 |
| knome | well if it is, it's possible that they are eating chicken-pawed cat tomorrow.. | 21:51 |
| bluesabre | ;) | 21:51 |
| elfy | bluesabre: if you want some cat-pawed I've got some you can have ... | 21:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, oh noes, take away? | 21:51 |
| knome | well anyway i'm happy that.. | 21:51 |
| knome | ...we have this important development discussion logged | 21:51 |
| nerdistmonk | woah big pile-o-updates | 21:52 |
| nerdistmonk | lol | 21:52 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:52 |
| bluesabre | very important | 21:52 |
| bluesabre | bbiab | 21:52 |
| elfy | hah | 21:52 |
| knome | development of bluesabre's tummy :d | 21:52 |
| bluesabre | yessir | 21:53 |
| bluesabre | yum | 21:53 |
| nerdistmonk | hmm it wants to remove nouveau during this update | 21:54 |
| nerdistmonk | oh well i dont use it anyways, no guts no glory and all that jazz. | 21:56 |
| elfy | dist-upgrade only wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-modesetting here | 21:56 |
| nerdistmonk | over here it wants to gank the following xorg drivers: modesetting, intel, nouveau and 'all' | 21:57 |
| nerdistmonk | its hard telling, just going to ignore it | 21:57 |
| nerdistmonk | its likely a difference in repos because i use xorg edgers | 21:57 |
| elfy | reinstalled all of those here | 21:57 |
| elfy | aah right | 21:57 |
| elfy | I'll remember that when sudoku doesn't work ... | 21:58 |
| nerdistmonk | i use the binary nvidia driver so its not a huge painful loss | 21:58 |
| nerdistmonk | i quit using nouveau because it liked to crash the OS while gaming. | 21:58 |
| nerdistmonk | made me think i was using mac os 9 while trying to play Xonotic lol, sysrq-reisub is your friend. | 21:59 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Same, -modsetting. | 22:01 |
| nerdistmonk | xorg edgers may likely be causing the 3 extra drivers to popup on mine since its also giving me a new binary driver right now too. | 22:01 |
| elfy | Unit193: good - not going nuts then :) | 22:01 |
| nerdistmonk | exciting isn't it? | 22:02 |
| nerdistmonk | you just never know what color undies apt-get is going to fetch for you each morning. :D | 22:02 |
| nerdistmonk | 346.47 of the nvidia binary driver, oh goodie, i likely gained 2fps in a game i do not own yet. :D | 22:04 |
| nerdistmonk | You know what i wished worked in xubuntu? The CPU Freq applet in xfce | 22:15 |
| nerdistmonk | I had to just give in and write myself a script to change the cpu governors for me, because the cpu-freq applet isn't able to because it needs root privileges to do so. | 22:15 |
| nerdistmonk | hmmm i see why nouveau got yoinked | 22:24 |
| nerdistmonk | depends on xorg-video-abi or something like that. | 22:25 |
| nerdistmonk | and theres no package by that name in my repos currently. | 22:25 |
| nerdistmonk | *shrugs* meh it will fix itself eventually. | 22:25 |
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