[00:03] worked up the nerve and yanked upstart-bin [00:03] no ill effects from what i can see. [00:32] nerdistmonk: Except, you lost upstart user sessions and your indicators no longer work... [00:32] i dont use XFCE indicator [00:32] its already gone on my system [00:34] Your going to have to refresh me on what upstart user sessions do, i don't consciously use them unless its one of those important background tasks. [00:35] xfce4-session used them. [00:37] oh i see that thingy in "sessions and startup" that i always turn off. [00:37] :P [00:38] Not likely, but anyway... [00:39] yeah sessions i just looked xfce-session is the thing that saves every program/window you had open during logout. [01:17] Unit193, ping [01:17] knome: No! [01:17] :P [01:17] for what? [01:21] knome: Whatchaneed? [01:23] a pair of eyes [01:24] Mmmm, mine aren't great, only slightly better than elfy's. [01:24] that's fine [01:25] ok, ready soon [01:29] Unit193, https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1504 [01:34] Unit193, so, does it look sane at all? [01:36] Unit193? sane? hmm [01:36] The diffs look sane, though I do not like the indenting of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1504/revision/669 [01:37] bluesabre may have a point. [01:38] (I'm sure the rest of them are like that though. so. :P ) [01:40] heh [01:41] pushing to main branch then [01:42] bluesabre, you like the monkey? [01:42] bluesabre, let me flesh out the memory [01:43] bluesabre, didn't somebody tell you they won't give you the upload perms for the slideshow, and that somebody who has the perms will do it on request? [01:45] knome: yeah, I think that was the case [01:45] so do you want to poke people with that now or...? :) [01:45] was there a way to check who has upload permissions for a specific package? [01:47] ubuntu-core-dev, kubuntu-dev, ubuntu-desktop people in those teams. [01:50] ^ [01:50] bluesabre, so you want to poke people about that? [01:51] knome: I'll mention it to infinity [01:51] thanks [01:51] he was going to rebuild some stuff for me tonight/tomorrow [01:51] please also mention to update the translation templates [01:51] so that goes along with it [01:51] and thanks [01:51] oh... is that not part of it? [01:51] bluesabre, i didn't do it [01:51] i can look into doing it [01:52] but i've never done it :) [01:52] (i think) [01:52] :D [01:54] oh [01:54] make pot [01:54] ok [01:54] ;) [01:55] guess that was too easy. [01:55] bluesabre, now the branch has the translation templates up-to-date too [01:55] lol [03:57] So what's Xfce's plan with Xfwm4 and -DMONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP? [07:20] Unit193: ftr - my eyes are fine - it's everyone else :p [07:20] Ahh. [07:20] obvious really [09:18] bluesabre: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-notifyd/0.2.4-3ubuntu1 ones like that you want to use build1, as autosync will then run on that package. [09:19] xfce4-dict, ah you already know this. Nevermind then. [10:54] Unit193: I'm learning as I go :) [11:18] bluesabre, trusty users who upgraded to xfce 4.12 via ppa encounter the qt theming problem [11:19] well, aren't we telling them they use the PPA at their own risk? [11:19] how is that possible? [11:19] brainvvash: no idea [11:19] obviously something used to tell qt what to do [11:19] and now it doesn't [11:20] it looks like that [11:20] xfce4-settings? [11:20] what they can do is install and set qt-config [11:20] or not use a ppa [11:20] qt4-qtconfig [11:21] probably something in xfsettingsd [11:21] the question is, did Xfce change anything to trigger the theming issue? It always looked like qt was the culprit [11:22] it probably did at some point [11:22] good luck finding the commit in the last 3 years of development [11:22] then again, I'm not sure if should be up to xfce to set the qt theme [11:22] mate also has the same problem [11:23] indeed [11:23] trusty has xfce4-settings 4.11.2, utopic 4.11.3 [11:24] we noticed this issue in utopic, and x-d-s installs the skel qt config file [11:24] right [11:27] I'll check if other distros are affected too [11:27] ok [11:27] could be ubuntu specicifc [11:27] specific [11:27] knome: you may want to ping #ubuntu-devel folks if you don' [11:28] t see a slideshow upload in the next hour or so [11:28] infinity finished uploading the rest of xfce a few moments ago [11:29] so that may very well land in vivid-release today [11:29] mhm [11:31] I'm looking forward to getting to bug fixes once all these uploads are finally done :) [11:31] heh [11:32] i'm looking forward to the status tracker looking much better after all the uploads are done [12:22] bluesabre, bug 1305294 [12:22] bug 1305294 in upstart (Ubuntu) "QT uses incorrect theme when GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID is unset" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1305294 [12:25] setting this env var allows qt to determine the correct theme style, tested with "GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=123 clementine" [12:26] unity has GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=this-is-deprecated [14:42] bluesabre, there is also QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk [14:44] could be used instead of putting the conf file into the skel directory [14:50] actually, this one does not work [15:28] man that was a fast kernel update lol [15:29] thanks nerdistmonk - I thought for a moment that I was dreaming yesterdays :) [15:29] yeah, same here, i swore i just got a new version of 3.19 just last night [15:29] yea - you did [15:29] oh well, i like new and shiny lol [15:30] at least wine finally got updated [15:30] wouldn't have a clue about that [15:30] it hadn't been updated in 7 weeks (unrelated to this room obviously) [15:31] never used wine [15:31] i use it all the time, its a cornerstone for me. [15:31] well - not for years [15:32] Couldn't play simcity 4 without it, couldn't play alot of stuff without it. [15:34] reboot time for nerdy [15:41] what is "oneconf-query"? I keep getting (ad odd times) this error. [15:46] again :( [15:52] To hell with it...now I have to have an UbuntuOne account to auto-report a bug? I'm done with Canonical. Sorry guys, I really like Xubuntu and the community (a lot), but am tired of the crap one has to put up from "higher". === brainvvash_ is now known as brainvvash [20:16] !team | progress for V is looking great – good job, everyone! http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-v/group/topic-v-flavor-xubuntu.html [20:30] Noskcaj: I know Corsac had some objection to the latest screenshooter, but what about taskmanager 1.1.0? [20:31] Unit193, I've not heard anything. Do you want me to check or can you? [20:36] Well, just generally wondering if he had an objection, or if it was likely just missed. I think it may have gone GTK3. [21:42] Unit193: the latest taskmanager can be built with gtk2 or 3 [21:42] bluesabre, yai, Riddell's going to handle the slideshow upload if you didn't pick that up yet :) [21:45] knome: great [21:45] I saw that all the packages finally landed today as well [21:45] bluesabre: Hmm. So I'll just go with 'missed' [21:46] yes [21:46] 'missed' indeed [21:46] but thankfully not myst [21:46] those games suck [21:46] :) [21:46] ha [21:48] hi bluesabre :) [21:48] hey elfy, how goes? [21:49] ok thanks - you? [21:49] good [21:49] just got home, and getting ready to eat dinner [21:49] \o/ [21:49] what are you having then? :P [21:50] noodle bowl and a chicken patty [21:50] mhm [21:50] I'm assuming it's not cat-pawed chicken [21:50] surely yummy [21:50] elfy, who knows... ;) [21:50] lol [21:51] the box says chicken [21:51] and thats all I know [21:51] well if it is, it's possible that they are eating chicken-pawed cat tomorrow.. [21:51] ;) [21:51] bluesabre: if you want some cat-pawed I've got some you can have ... [21:51] bluesabre, oh noes, take away? [21:51] well anyway i'm happy that.. [21:51] ...we have this important development discussion logged [21:52] woah big pile-o-updates [21:52] lol [21:52] :D [21:52] very important [21:52] bbiab [21:52] hah [21:52] development of bluesabre's tummy :d [21:53] yessir [21:53] yum [21:54] hmm it wants to remove nouveau during this update [21:56] oh well i dont use it anyways, no guts no glory and all that jazz. [21:56] dist-upgrade only wants to remove xserver-xorg-video-modesetting here [21:57] over here it wants to gank the following xorg drivers: modesetting, intel, nouveau and 'all' [21:57] its hard telling, just going to ignore it [21:57] its likely a difference in repos because i use xorg edgers [21:57] reinstalled all of those here [21:57] aah right [21:58] I'll remember that when sudoku doesn't work ... [21:58] i use the binary nvidia driver so its not a huge painful loss [21:58] i quit using nouveau because it liked to crash the OS while gaming. [21:59] made me think i was using mac os 9 while trying to play Xonotic lol, sysrq-reisub is your friend. [22:01] elfy: Same, -modsetting. [22:01] xorg edgers may likely be causing the 3 extra drivers to popup on mine since its also giving me a new binary driver right now too. [22:01] Unit193: good - not going nuts then :) [22:02] exciting isn't it? [22:02] you just never know what color undies apt-get is going to fetch for you each morning. :D [22:04] 346.47 of the nvidia binary driver, oh goodie, i likely gained 2fps in a game i do not own yet. :D [22:15] You know what i wished worked in xubuntu? The CPU Freq applet in xfce [22:15] I had to just give in and write myself a script to change the cpu governors for me, because the cpu-freq applet isn't able to because it needs root privileges to do so. [22:24] hmmm i see why nouveau got yoinked [22:25] depends on xorg-video-abi or something like that. [22:25] and theres no package by that name in my repos currently. [22:25] *shrugs* meh it will fix itself eventually.