[01:24] <craigbass76> Someone slap me.  I installed kubuntu-desktop because I wanted a look at KDE (it's been years) and now that I'm back in xfce, I can't seem to make things look like they did (panel colors, icons) before I gave KDE a whirl.  Is there a way to reset things?
[01:25] <craigbass76> Am I using kde icons or something now by default?
[01:25] <holstein> craigbass76: i would try purging what kubuntu-desktop installed, and just see what "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" installs, or setsup
[01:25] <holstein> craigbass76: i would also see what session im choosing at login..
[01:25] <craigbass76> holstein, I've tried xubuntu and xfce; they both look the same.  apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop ?
[01:26] <holstein> craigbass76: you can try.. or autoremove.. sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <craigbass76> holstein, thanks -- it did the trick.  I think KDE took over and I was using its icons and skins (well sort of -- I couldn't seem to change my panel colors) instead of XFCE's.
[01:37] <holstein> craigbass76: you can just install kde, and not use the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[01:37] <holstein> i have better luck mixing those together..
[02:43] <charade> hello
[06:20] <CameronE> Would anyone be willing to help me tshoot the whiskermenu-popup going walkabouts?
[08:26] <Ullarah> CameronE, I'm not sure what you mean about going walkabouts, is whiskermenu on a panel, and clicking on it yeilds no menu, is that correct?
[08:26] <CameronE> Walkabouts==missing==MIA==etc
[08:26] <CameronE> I had it bound to ctrl+esc and now I get the following message:
[08:26] <CameronE> Failed to execute child process "xfce4-popup-whiskermenu" (No such file or directory)
[08:27] <CameronE> Obviously xfce4-popup-whiskermenu is the action I am trying to execute
[08:28] <Ullarah> CameronE, try from terminal: /usr/bin/xfce4-popup-whiskermenu
[08:28] <CameronE> Ullarah, just does nothing.
[08:28] <CameronE> ..hang on
[08:29] <Ullarah> CameronE, try re-installing xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin
[08:29] <CameronE> looks like I was half way through tshooting yesterday and forgot where I was up to... I have just installed xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin again (must have removed it yesterday)
[08:29] <CameronE> let me relog
[08:29] <Ullarah> :)
[08:35] <CameronE> Okay, Ullarah, had a bit of an unstable moment on logout... let's not talk about that!
[08:36] <CameronE> Running both shortcut and from the cli does nothing now
[08:36] <Ullarah> :/
[08:36] <CameronE> xfce-wiskermenu-popup is in /usr/bin though
[08:37] <CameronE> Weird because I didn't even touch it :(
[08:37] <Ullarah> The only thing would be to remove it from the panel, purge the plugin, restart, and reinstall the plugin.
[08:38] <CameronE> .... okay you just fixed my problem...
[08:38] <CameronE> I had the wrong app menu in panel
[08:38] <CameronE> Did not realise that's how it worked.
[08:38] <CameronE> Thanks :P
[08:40] <Ullarah> Always the simple things CameronE! ^_^
[08:40] <CameronE> Don't think you understand how good it is to have that menu back!
[08:41] <Ullarah> I don't use whiskermenu, I use the standard menu with no icons :P
[08:42] <CameronE> I just like being able to quickly type what I want
[08:42] <Ullarah> That's where the application finder comes in handy.
[08:42] <Ullarah> ALT+R or SUPER+R or whatever your key is :P
[08:44] <CameronE> So I was using that (although didn't know the shortcut for it, as I hadn't gotten that desperate) and don't really like to have to 'double-enter' when I've located the desired app
[08:44] <Ullarah> I normally know what I'm looking for so I type in the path :P
[08:45] <Ullarah> I'm much more of a CLI person.
[08:46] <CameronE> ahh, yeah, this is a work machine so most of my tasks are done through a browser
[08:47] <CameronE> Don't have a huge understanding of Ubuntu yet so still like the occasional button :)
[08:47] <CameronE> You don't own http://ullarah.com/ by any chance?
[08:47] <Ullarah> ^_-
[08:48] <Ullarah> Check out http://ullarah.com/q :P
[08:48] <Ullarah> Might want to view-source:http://ullarah.com/q
[08:49] <CameronE> Think it broke and I got the source anyway
[08:49] <Ullarah> :P
[08:49] <CameronE> Although, looking at the source may have been my work's firewall breaking it :P
[08:54] <Ullarah> Well if you are ever feeling bored, just leave the website open CameronE :P
[08:56] <CameronE> Haha yeah there's a few good videos on there.. is it playing a certain playlist?
[09:02] <Ullarah> CameronE, I update it every now and then with weird and wonderful videos.
[09:02] <Ullarah> It's not running a playlist or anything, just simply grabs the video from youtube and plays it.
[09:02] <CameronE> ahh okay - nice!
[09:03] <Ullarah> CameronE, https://github.com/ullarah/ullarah.com :)
[10:34] <msev_> regarding the mail watch plugin -> i'm getting a 401 error (unauthorized), even tho the password and username is correct? anyone else experiencing this?
[11:56] <Ullarah> Anybody know why the Application Finder is using old launchers? Is there a cache I have to clear or something?
[11:56] <Ullarah> Hover over it, and it says "exec ./start.sh" but it should actually be "exec ./starthere.sh", but if I right click and go edit, it actually says "exec ./starthere.sh"
[12:07] <Ullarah> Nevermind, fixed it by just recreating the .desktop file :/
[12:14] <knob> Good morning everyone.
[12:15] <knob> Question:  In Unity, I had a "workflow" for grabbing screenshots.   Now with Xubuntu... I think I have a setting wrong or something.           Here is what I used to do:
[12:16] <knob> I would PrintScreen... then select the "Copy to the clipboard".     I would then head over to GIMP, and paste the image.              Yet now, when I paste in GIMP, I get an error message stating    "There is no image data in the clipboard to paste."
[12:16] <knob> Is this something to do with a setting... or should I go about it a different way?
[12:18] <zokp> knob, open screenshooter, choose Save to clipboard
[12:19] <knob> zokp, I hit the PrintScreen key, and a window pops up  (Titled "Screenshot").     From there, I have four radio buttons under "Action".        The first one is Save, and the second one states  "Copy to the clipboard."
[12:19] <knob> I select the second one, then head over to gimp, and get the error message.
[12:20] <knob> Is that what you are refering to?
[12:21] <zokp> yes :/
[12:21] <knob> Ok... double checking all my steps...   maybe I am hitting something wrong.
[12:25] <knob> Wow no.
[12:25] <knob> I did it with the mouse, instead of the keyboard... and same error.
[12:25] <knob> I don't get it.
[12:26] <knob> I hit the PrintScreen key... screenshot window comes up.       I select "Copy to clipboard".             Then when I go paste into GIMP... nothing
[12:26] <krytarik> knob: You need to click OK after selecting it.
[12:26] <knob> krytarik, tried that too.
[12:26] <krytarik> Well, works here.
[12:27] <knob> 1st, it was with the radio button for Copy to clipboard, then hit Enter.
[12:27] <knob> 2nd, radio button at Copy to clipboards.... then clicked with the mouse "OK".
[12:27] <knob> Yet GIMP is still erroring out
[12:27] <knob> Tried pasting into Writer, and no image comes up.
[12:27] <knob> I must be either doing something wrong, on have a wrong setting somewhere
[12:36] <elfy> mmm - see the same
[12:37] <elfy> but in Gimp if Paste As New Image it works
[12:38] <elfy> as does (from screenshot) Open With Gimp - though that might be in vivid screenshot not sure
[12:39] <elfy> doesn't paste in LO Writer here either
[12:44] <knob> Yes... I select "Open with Gimp"... it opens up gimp just fine, and off it goes
[12:44] <knob> Which I wouldn't have a problem... yet the radio button for "open with gimp" is not selectable with the keyboard,... you have to use the mouse cursor
[12:44] <knob> Not sure what ... what is going on.  What did I change... or break
[12:48] <Pici>  /36
[12:49] <elfy> that's a good break Pici - I can never manager more than 1 :p
[12:49] <Pici> ;)
[12:54] <elfy> I can select open with, then tab to choices then up/down to choose gimp
[12:54] <elfy> but that's beside the point - seems to be a bug somewhere anyway
[12:55] <elfy> as you CAN open with or Paste As New image - just not paste :)
[12:58] <knob> Well the "Paste As New Image" inside GIMP does not work for me.   I use its shortcut, Shift + Ctrl + V            ... and then GIMP thinks about it for like 15-20 seconds, and returns the "Empty clipboard" error message
[12:58] <knob> I am googling some stuff now... see if I can come up with... somethign
[13:12] <knob> I don't know if I should install a package to see if it fixes it.   Something like clipman or parcelite
[13:13] <knob> Interesting... if I check unider "Accessories", I have two entries for Screenshot
[13:23] <knob> Alright... have some odd progress
[13:24] <knob> Under Accessories, I have two entries for "Screenshot".     The first open screenshot "type1"... and the second "type2".   They are both screenshot capture programs... yet slightly different both.
[13:24] <knob> After opening each manually, and grabbing a screenshot with each...      copy to clipboard... they both paste into GIMP perfectly.
[13:24] <knob> So, apparently, when I use the PRintScreen key in the keyboard, something goes amiss.
[13:25] <knob> Not sure if I should un-install one of those entries... what do you think?
[13:26] <knob> Ok... where could I find these two screenshot installed programs?    I just used Ubuntu Software Center... and under Installed, it is not present.
[13:26] <knob> Going to see how I can find them via command line
[13:26] <cfhowlett> knob, more likely you have a double entry
[13:28] <brainvvash> the 2nd one is probably gnome-screenshot
[13:28] <knob> I ran  dpkg --get-selections | grep screen
[13:28] <knob> yes!
[13:28] <knob> I have  gnome-screenshot                and underneath I have  xfce4-screenshooter
[13:32] <knob> Should I remove... gnome-screenshot?
[13:32] <knob> I would reckon xfce4-screenshooter works better?
[13:33] <cfhowlett> knob, xfce4 = xubuntu so ... default app
[13:39] <knob> Aight!
[13:39] <knob> Doing that now!
[14:49] <knob> Hmm... just removed gnome-screenshot, and still getting the error about the empty clipboard.
[14:49] <knob> =\
[14:51] <brainvvash> you have to start gimp before taking the screenshot and saving it to the clipboard
[14:51] <knob> yup... that's the way I did it
[14:51] <knob> Started gimp...
[14:51] <brainvvash> works here
[14:51] <knob> head over to a different workspace... keyboard PrintScreen.....   select copy to clipboards
[14:51] <knob> *clipboard
[14:51] <knob> then head over to gimp,   ctrl+shift+v   ... nothing
[14:51] <knob> error stating the clipboard is empty
[14:51] <brainvvash> shift?
[14:52] <knob> shift+ctrl+v   pastes as a new image in gimp
[14:54] <knob> This is odd...
[14:54] <brainvvash> indeed, something happens to the clipboard content
[14:55] <knob> Yes... not sure what... what I have wrong.   I just reinstalled gnome-screenshot... and removed   xfce-screenshooter.
[14:56] <knob> Doesn't make sense... yet, trying to see what happens
[14:56] <knob> Ok... that didn't even work
[14:56] <brainvvash> don't switch the workspace
[14:56] <knob> Same result... just tried it.
[14:57] <knob> Let me re-install xfce4-screenshooter...
[14:57] <knob> and remove   gnome-screenshot
[14:57] <brainvvash> that won't help
[14:57] <knob> Yeah nope... still the clipboard seems to be empty.
[14:58] <brainvvash> I assume a clipboard manager could help in this case
[14:58] <brainvvash> to preserve the clipboard content/context when switching workspaces
[14:58] <knob> I did read some suggestions online about that.   I think clipman  and...
[14:58] <knob> parcelite
[14:58] <knob> Any recommendations on your end?
[14:59] <knob> recommendations/preferences
[14:59] <brainvvash> no, you'll have to test them
[14:59] <knob> ok... going first with clipman
[15:00] <knob> It is interesting that she thinks about the data.     If I grab a screenshot, and try to paste it... she thinks for 15-30 seconds... then throws the error.           If I try to paste two lines of text, she throws the error super fast.
[15:02] <brainvvash> the data seems to be there, but it cannot be recognized properly, because the meta data is missing/broken
[17:37] <Guest63300> is ubutnu pre installed laptops are avilable in india??
[19:00] <sjoshi> Guest63300: yes
[19:38] <teziko> When I drag a tab from the xubuntu panel, the whisker menu logo disappears and reappears when I bring the cursor on it. Is it a bug?
[19:49] <ochosi> teziko: yes, a known one even
[19:49] <teziko> ochosi: Oh, I thought it was because of my nvidia driver.
[19:50] <ochosi> nope, unfortunately the origin of that problem still isn't clear
[19:52] <teziko> ochosi: do you have a kind of bug page of this problem?
[19:52] <teziko> launchpad or something
[19:55] <ochosi> yeah, one sec
[20:13] <ochosi> teziko: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1397095
[20:14] <teziko> ochosi: thank you very much
[20:15] <ochosi> np
[20:17] <kashel> aloha brother`s
[22:07] <kopple> hello, how do you fix this? When using Photoshop some tools require the ALT key to be pressed and there's no other way to use is otherwise. My Xubuntu drags the windows when I use that key so I will not be able to use those tools (such as the clone tool)
[22:16] <knome> kopple, change the modifier key to something else on xubuntu
[22:16] <Ullarah> knome, Use 'window modifier tweaks' in settings.
[22:16] <Ullarah> Then click the accessibility tab.
[22:16] <knome> kopple, ^ that
[22:16] <Ullarah> Change they 'key used to grab' option.
[22:16] <Ullarah> Sorry, I tagged you knome by accident :P
[22:16] <knome> np
[22:17] <kopple> thanks, I'm trying.. I should understand how keyboard settings and shortcuts are dealt with in Xubuntu
[22:18] <kopple> unfortunately my Xubuntu is not in English but as far as I could try translating the window I'm on now is "settings editor" and it looks like a Windows registry or something like that
[22:18] <Ullarah> kopple, what language?
[22:18] <kopple> I suppose that's not what you meant since I can't spot an accessibility line
[22:18] <kopple> Italian
[22:19] <Ullarah> kopple, do you know where your settings are?
[22:19] <kopple> yes I do, may it be in the Input devices?
[22:20] <Ullarah> There should be an option there called 'window modifier tweaks' or in italian 'tweaks finestra di modifica' possibly.
[22:20] <kopple> let's see
[22:20] <kopple> we're better off with icons description ;D
[22:21] <Ullarah> If I was using xubuntu right now, I'd take some screenshots. Hold on, I'll see if there is a command line way.
[22:21] <kopple> I think I found it
[22:21] <Ullarah> ^_^
[22:22] <Ullarah> kopple, should look like this window, http://i.stack.imgur.com/wBeQL.png
[22:22] <kopple> it has a magic wand and its title translates to "Windows manager regulations"
[22:22] <kopple> that's exactly what I meant
[22:22] <Ullarah> kopple, I normally change it to 'SUPER'
[22:22] <kopple> "meta" means apple/windows icon key?
[22:22] <Ullarah> Use super.
[22:23] <Ullarah> Meta is the 'menu' key on your keyboard, the one on the right hand side of the windows key.
[22:23] <Ullarah> Super is the windows key :)
[22:23] <kopple> I don't have super, I only have "hyper" XD is it the same as super?
[22:23] <kopple> thank you
[22:23] <Ullarah> kopple, Most likely! ^_^
[22:23] <kopple> no I also found super
[22:24] <kopple> sorry, too bespactacled for grey windows
[22:24] <Ullarah> Ah, use super, if it doesn't work, try hyper :P
[22:24] <kopple> I'm trying right away
[22:24] <kopple> for your information I was trying to close the window inside the picture you linked to me
[22:24] <Ullarah> LOL
[22:24] <Ullarah> Sorry! :P
[22:25] <kopple> XD maybe I should go and see a doctor, or an exorcist
[22:25] <Ullarah> Nah, it happens to me on occasion!
[22:26] <kopple> darn! I had set the super key for system menu pop-up!
[22:26] <kopple> to make it work like on Windows
[22:26] <kopple> but now Photoshop works great 8)
[22:26] <kopple> thank you
[22:27] <Ullarah> No worries, happy to help.
[22:27] <kopple> maybe you can help me with this thing too
[22:28] <Ullarah> I'll give it a go! :P
[22:28] <kopple> I'm using three monitors at once and I find Xubuntu great for multiple monitors. Just one thing, do you think I can instruct the DE to place desktop icons always on the same monitor? Sometims I just don't need to switch them all on
[22:29] <kopple> I thought ... maybe if one of the three of them was set to "primary" within the editor settings?
[22:30] <kopple> may I break something?
[22:32] <Ullarah> Hmm.
[22:32] <Ullarah> Not sure if that's possible.
[22:32] <kopple> well it's a minor issue indeed..
[22:33] <Ullarah> I mean, it /is/ possible, but you'd have to look at the source code for the DE :P
[22:33] <kopple> above me, totally XD
[22:33] <kopple> but thanks
[22:34] <kopple> now I can work with Photoshop the way I'm used to, mostly.. at least  now every tool works
[23:53] <joaojotta> Hello
[23:54] <joaojotta> Has anyone got a fix for the cursor bug? (Xubuntu 14.04.2)
[23:56] <knome> for what cursor bug?
[23:56] <joaojotta> When using any other than the default theme, the theme is only applied over certain windows/apps.
[23:57] <joaojotta> Right now I have a black cursor and it changes to the default white one when hovering the desktop.
[23:58] <joaojotta> ... or XChat. It comes back when hovering Firefox or Abiword
[23:58] <joaojotta> This is SO annoying.