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Blue1I am trying to get kubuntu to output the same image to 2 monitors.  however it appears to be non-trivial -- is there a way to do this?00:12
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soeegood morning08:46
morgan_has anyone any suggestions for hat to use for remote desktop sessions with plasma5 ?09:14
morgan_*sorry - i'mnot signed in correctly - back in a sec.)09:14
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yossarianuk(in case the message wasn't seen - I wasn't signed in correctly to IRC)09:15
yossarianukhas anyone any suggestions for what to use for remote desktop sessions with plasma5 ?09:15
yossarianukwith KDE 4.x I have been used X2go (probably the best remote desktop software I have seen.)09:15
yossarianukthat doesn't work with plasma5 I believe due to 'KDE 5: Incompatible due to plasmashell requiring GLX 1.3'09:22
yossarianukI hate VNC as its far far far far worse then x2go (nx)09:22
yossarianukthere is nomachines but that is now awful09:22
yossarianukwhat do you guys use for remote desktop'infg09:23
yossarianuk*desktoping*09:23
aftereyohello09:45
aftereyoI was wondering if anyone here uses Kubuntu 14.10 with plasma 5. Is it a stable experience?09:46
yossarianukI tried 5.1 a few months ago and it was fairly stable - 5.2 is meant to be more stable...09:49
aftereyoDo I have to do anything special to get it up to 5.2?09:50
aftereyoOr is that just an update away?09:50
yossarianukaftereyo: If you want to try out 5.2 then I suggest trying the 15.04 beta .09:55
aftereyoWell, I think I would rather stay with the more stable 14.10 or 14.04.09:55
yossarianukif you want to try plasma 5.2 I think you need to be on 14.1009:56
yossarianuknot 14.04)09:56
yossarianukyou can add the kubuntu ppa here - http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.209:56
yossarianukhowever it may oddly be more stable to use the beta..09:56
aftereyoSo yossarianuk this is what I am thinking09:57
aftereyo1. Install Kubuntu 14.10 with plasma 409:57
aftereyo2. upgrade to plasma 5, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.1009:58
aftereyo3. upgrade 5.1 to 5.2, http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.209:58
aftereyoWould that work?09:58
yossarianukaftereyo: should do (can't vouch though..)10:09
charleywie geht es weiter ?10:12
yossarianukis 15.04 going to use this - https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.8.0.php ?10:42
yossarianuki.e frameworks 5.8 ?10:42
yossarianukor is it already frozen /10:42
soeeyossarianuk: i think yes, Riddell ^10:48
soeealso QT 5.4.1 if im not wrong10:48
Riddellyeah it'll get updated to 5.8 when someone has time10:51
yossarianuksoee: Riddell: cheers10:58
yossarianukthis may not be the place to ask - but what the hell...  I have made a pretty coloured .bashrc (i.e PS1=...) however the colour escapes - - how to I prevent that ?11:48
aftereyohey11:52
aftereyoI used this command to make a bootable usb stick for Kubuntu 15.0411:52
aftereyosudo dd if=kubuntu-15.04-beta1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M11:52
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aftereyobut when I check in the files app in elementary os it doesn't show any contents11:53
aftereyoI get this error when itry to open it in nemo11:54
aftereyoSorry, could not display all the contents of "BBE7-A1B0": Error when getting information for file '/media/mayor/BBE7-A1B0/╥╦o.`k': Input/output error11:54
yossarianukaftereyo: you shouldn't need the 'bs=1m' bit11:54
yossarianukhave you tried to unplug-plugin ?11:54
aftereyowhat is that?11:55
yossarianuki.e unplug it, then plug back in.11:55
aftereyooh, let me try11:56
aftereyoah yes it works now11:56
aftereyoWow, who could have guessed11:56
aftereyoThat stuff almost never works11:56
aftereyothanks11:56
aftereyoLets hope I can boot this time11:56
unopasteaftereyo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted11:56
BluesKajHiyas all12:02
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aftereyohi12:19
aftereyoI just install Kubuntu 15.04 succusfully12:19
aftereyoThe driver manager does not show drivers for my GPU or wifi card12:21
aftereyoand synaptic doesn't exist yet for 15.0412:21
aftereyohow else can I get my drivers?12:22
soeeaftereyo: hi, for package managements ue Muon12:22
soee*use12:22
soeelet me check drier manager, also what gpu are you using ?12:23
aftereyo nvidia 240gtm12:23
aftereyonvidia-331 is my driver I normaly use12:23
aftereyoI cannot find synaptic in Muon either12:24
soeeaftereyo: it lists drivers for me http://wstaw.org/m/2015/03/13/worksace14.png12:24
soeebut there were problems with it before12:25
soeeaftereyo: are you uing daily iso ?12:25
soeeand do you have latest upgrades ?12:25
aftereyoNO, fresh nsitall12:25
aftereyolet me check the updates12:25
aftereyoWhy is it called muon now?12:26
BluesKajaftereyo, sudo apt-get install nvidia-340, which is the 15.04 driver for your gpu12:26
aftereyoI should probably update the os first though right?12:26
BluesKajyes12:27
aftereyookay12:27
aftereyoMuon update closes once I start it12:27
BluesKajand dist-upgrade too12:27
aftereyoI see the name in the task bar for about 2 seoncds12:27
aftereyocan i update via the terminal?12:27
aftereyosudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:27
BluesKajjust use the terminal for now12:27
aftereyowill that work?12:27
BluesKajyes12:28
aftereyowill I be able to upgrade all the way to when 15.04 officially comes out?12:29
aftereyoor will i have to reinstall?12:29
soeeaftereyo: sure you will can, just apply updates when tehy show up12:30
soeeand you will be finally on 15.04 stable :)12:30
aftereyocool12:30
aftereyoplasma 5 is such a nice improvment12:30
aftereyofinally a linux distro that looks nice12:30
soeeaftereyo: after you play a bit with 15.04, feel free to share with us your note https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/XdgxMysGSfw :)12:32
aftereyoare you a dev?12:32
soeeaftereyo: no no :) i do some stuff for cmmunity12:33
aftereyoI there a way without g+?12:34
aftereyohow do I ge the icon only taskbar?12:35
soeeaftereyo: unlock widget, than right click on current task manager and pick Alternatives12:37
soeethan choose the one you want12:37
soee*unlock widgets12:37
rosco_yShould I use samba to network two ubuntu desktops?12:43
soeehmm lordivader recommended once some other tool, BluesKaj ^ do you know better one than samba ?12:44
hateballI'd use SMB as a last resort12:44
hateball!share12:45
hateballhmmm12:45
BluesKajssh12:45
hateballoh well, I'd use NFS or SSHFS12:45
rosco_yhateball: ty, I thought I was probably going in a bad direction, using a windows protocal to network linux pcs12:45
BluesKajin dolphin networking , soee ?12:46
soeerosco_y: ^12:46
rosco_ycan anyone share a link to some noobie information on networking two linux desktops?12:46
soeeBluesKaj: its about what rosco_y asking12:46
BluesKajyes , I see that now ...should have looked futher up the scroll12:47
rosco_y:) I admit I don't know everything about everything.....12:47
BluesKajrosco_y, try networking in dolphin before resorting to samba12:48
aftereyocool, that looks better12:48
rosco_yBluesKaj: thank you--I thought Dolphin was a file manager ?12:48
BluesKajrosco_y, add network folder12:48
soeeoh its more powerfull12:48
rosco_yBluesKaj: Awesome, I think I love you....12:49
BluesKajros  yers it can manage files over a network  too12:49
BluesKajrosco_y,^12:49
BluesKajnow now let's reserve judgement til it works , rosco_y ")12:51
mayorhow can I get Anti Aliasing for window previews?12:57
mayorhttp://i.imgur.com/Wu9mIud.png12:58
mayorsee how it is all pixelated12:58
BluesKajmayor, systemsettings >app appearance>fonts>enable antialiasing13:00
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aftereyofonts already have aa13:03
aftereyoit the small window preivew I am atalking about when you hover over the icon or alt tab13:03
aftereyoalt + tab shwos the list of window small on the left side13:03
BluesKajaftereyo, system settings has changed in 15.04 vs 14.1013:08
aftereyookay13:09
aftereyolet me restart13:09
BluesKajplasma 5 vs 4 actually13:09
aftereyohmm13:10
aftereyobrb restarting13:10
drawkwardCan anyone tell me what is a .fab file meant for?13:17
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aftereyohi13:18
aftereyoso yeah, I enabled the font AA and the previews are still pixelated13:18
mparillodrawkward: Fabmaster? http://www.unisoft-cim.com/importers.htm Fabmaster seems to be obsolete product that is not supported by its developers. http://www.file-extensions.org/fab-file-extension http://www.kornzauber.de/en/extension/fab13:21
drawkwardmparillo: i googled .fab and came to that webpage. but i am confused because I am working on Stellarium, which uses .fab files for constellations.13:23
PiciIts probably their own format13:24
BluesKajaftereyo, have you done a dist-upgrade?13:24
aftereyono13:24
aftereyosudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:24
aftereyothat one?13:24
BluesKajyes13:24
aftereyoMuon is currenlty updating, I will in a sec13:25
aftereyowhat does dist-upgrade give me?13:25
BluesKaj!dist-upgrade13:26
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.13:26
Pici!dist-upgrade13:26
Pici:)13:26
aftereyo!upgrade13:26
drawkwardPici: how do you make your own format or implement something similar? For instance if I am studying how constellations are done in stellarium, and I want to implement the same thing on kstars in kubuntu, how can I use their file format?13:26
ubottuFor upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu13:26
Picidrawkward: I'd start by looking at the stellarium developer documentation: http://www.stellarium.org/doc/head/index.html13:27
drawkwardok thanks13:28
BluesKajbtw aftereyo , now that you're on 15.04 , any questions regarding it should be asked in #ubuntu+1, the chat supports all flavours of 15.0413:29
Picidrawkward: #stellarium also exists, and *might* be helpful.13:29
aftereyoOkay thanks13:29
aftereyoso Kubuntu 15.04 is off topic here?13:30
BluesKajbasically, yes13:31
JiyuhenHi All13:42
JiyuhenWith Kubuntu 14.04 is the LTS, right?13:44
JiyuhenSo what is with users having 14.10? Do they need to up or downgrade when the update period is over and is a upgrade via the Terminal or similar possible as soon the upcoming LTS is available?13:44
JiyuhenOk - scrap the the upgrade question. Just found my answer. Seems as if there will be a notification on the system :)13:46
BluesKajJiyuhen, yes upgrade via terminal with do-release-upgrade , but one should update/upgrade and dist-upgrade before doing so13:47
BluesKajI'm referring to an upgrade to 14.1013:48
JiyuhenThank you BluesKaj!13:49
JiyuhenYeah, so is it better to roll with the releases or stick with the LTS ones?13:49
BluesKajthe same goes for 15.04 when it's officially released in April , then 14.10 users can do the same13:49
JiyuhenSo always roll with the releases?13:51
BluesKajJiyuhen, that's a matter of what you require from a release, most workplaces require stability and long term support so LTS is usually best for those situations13:52
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BluesKaja home user like me upgrades to new releases when available, but that's my personal preference13:53
JiyuhenI am just fighting the n00b in me, trying to understand the ups and downs. I am on 14.10, which is so far stable and I like it, but 14.04 is the LTS.13:54
JiyuhenBluesKaj, so the LTS is the all tested and the releases inbetween are those were "we" help the Devs in making a better next LTS? -Would that fit as a very simple explanation?13:56
aftereyoLTS is long term support13:57
aftereyowhich means it not bleeding edge13:57
aftereyoIt's aimed at people who will no reinstall every 9 months13:57
BluesKajJiyuhen, well I suppose there's an element of users acting as testers , but there are ppl like me who test dev releases as a hobby:)13:58
JiyuhenOk :)13:59
MoonUnit`vivid 'feels' a bit smoother with X 1.17 and my 280x.14:05
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thahahalo\15:12
thaharesolution issue kubuntu 14.04 intel hd graphics15:13
thahaRecently installed Kubuntu 14.04. I am only gets maximum resolution of 1024x768. Required resolution 1360x768. How to get the same ? Please help me15:13
thahano none here ?15:14
thahaWTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!15:14
thahamarinalexxx15:16
thaha:-)15:16
thahahelp in intel driver ?15:17
soeeBluesKaj: do you have any experience with intel drivers to help thaha ?15:17
thahatried intel graphics installer15:18
thahainstalled above package and ran with an installer..  Installer installed several packages like build-essentials and shows report.  ''sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'' d the system.  rebooted,   Nothing happened. No new entry in resolution selection in KDE control module.  What I do sir ?15:18
thaha:'(15:19
soeethaha: i don't know, my resolution on this laptop is autodetected i think15:20
thahai got only 1024x768 maximum15:20
BluesKajthaha, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel15:20
soeeand i don't use anything more than what kubuntu installs by default15:21
thahaBluesKa,Executed sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel15:21
BluesKajthaha, there won't be any output from that command , it loads the intel driver ...then reboot15:22
thahai will be back15:22
thaha_rebooted15:24
thaha_no effect15:24
BluesKajthaha_, so what have you doner so far in regards to kmix or alsamixer ?15:25
thaha_kmix is installed with kubuntu15:25
BluesKajyes, as ia alsamixer15:26
soeeBluesKaj: but we are talking about gpu driver right ?15:26
BluesKajia-is15:26
thaha_ya GPU driver15:26
thaha_why audio15:26
thaha_?15:26
BluesKajght it was audiooops , thouf15:26
thaha_there is no issue in audio15:26
BluesKajerr audio15:26
thaha_ xrandr Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32767 x 32767 VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm    1024x768       60.0*     800x600        60.3     56.2      848x480        60.0      640x480        59.9   HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted rig15:27
BluesKajscuse my mistake ...15:27
thaha_have any idea to set resolution to 1360x768 ?15:27
thaha_Kde control module shows upto 1024x76815:27
thaha_ammede andi kure myrenmaar join cheyyundnenalathe oru pariyum nadakillanu thonnunnu :'(15:28
MoonUnit`does grep 'Modeline' /var/log/Xorg.0.log show a 1360x768 modeline?15:28
thaha_grep 'Modeline' /var/log/Xorg.0.log [    15.610] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz e) [    15.610] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz e) [    15.610] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz e) [    15.610] (II) intel(0): Mo15:28
MoonUnit`it not you'll probably have to add your own custom modeline, not something i have experience with15:29
thaha_how ?15:29
thaha_no modile lines will work15:30
thaha_i tried to addmoelines and failed15:30
MoonUnit`https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution has a part about adding undetected resolutions.15:31
thaha_tried above guide15:32
thaha_xrandr: cannot find mode 1360x76815:32
BluesKajthaha_, is the gpu driver the i915?15:34
thaha_how to check the gpu driver ?15:34
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BluesKajthaha_,  lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'15:35
thaha_ lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D' 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0412] (rev 06)         Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device [1458:d000]         Kernel driver in use: i915 00:03.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller [8086:0c0c] (rev 06)15:36
BluesKajo, thaha_  Kernel driver in use: i915, which is the correct one15:37
thaha_bluesKaj ??????????15:37
thaha_correct ? using gigabyte motherboard15:38
BluesKajit is the the correct thaha_ , didn't mean to confuse15:38
thaha_okay.15:39
thaha_then how i adjust resolution15:42
BluesKaj_thaha_, do you have opengl 2.0 at a minimum chosen in systemsettings>desktop effects.advanced>composting and Qt graphics set at raster ?15:46
thaha_yes15:47
thaha_raster15:47
BluesKaj_what about composting type ?15:47
thaha_opengl 2.015:48
BluesKaj_then in system settings>display configuration>LVDS1 the list of available rsolutions should show 1366x768 as the top available resolution15:51
thaha_display configuration or display and monitor ?15:52
thaha_no entry like display configuration       ?15:52
thaha_okay. display configuration shows VGA115:53
thaha_1024x768 is top available resolution15:53
soeeyour moitor supports higher ?15:54
BluesKaj_in display and monitor>display configuration ..ok which kubuntu bersion are you running , I didn't see15:54
thaha_worked with centos 6 in 1360x76815:54
BluesKaj_versu=15:54
BluesKaj_version rather15:55
thaha_kubuntu 14.0415:55
rberg_thaha_: have you looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution15:56
BluesKaj_so the dsiplay configuration doesn't show the LVDS1 ? it's been a while since ran 14.0415:56
thaha_only shows VGA115:57
rberg_LVDS1 isnt that just for laptop displays?15:57
thaha_tried via xrandr new modline15:57
thaha_its pc15:57
thaha_not laptop15:58
thaha_samsung monitor\15:58
rberg_yeah thats why you dont have a LVDS115:58
BluesKaj_doh! ..it seemed like a laptop by the specs15:58
rberg_thaha_: doh! I see that linkwas alreadt posted.. what about "xrandr --addmode VGA1 1360x768"16:00
thaha_xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1360x768" xrandr: cannot find mode "1360x768"16:00
thaha_any way ?16:05
soeethaha_: you might want to ask on #ubuntu as there is more users16:06
thaha_okayz16:07
MoonUnit`did you try adding the modeline 'cvt 1360 768 60' outputs16:07
BluesKaj_I didn't think he needed to install and configure the driver that should have already been installed by default with the OS16:10
DaltonCalfordDoes anyone know where I can find the settings for kde5 with kubuntu 15.04? I am trying to clear old settings but removing .kde does not seem to get everything17:12
mparilloCould some be in .local/share?17:15
soeeDaltonCalford: also .config/ is involved with storing settings17:19
BluesKajDaltonCalford, don't think the full kde5 package is installed yet , just plasma 5 and KF5 , looked in /usr/share, maybe it resides elasewhere but plasma 4 is still in /usr/share17:19
soeebut this also has your apps configuration to do a backup before removing17:19
DaltonCalfordok, so, .kde, .config and ./local/share are possible places that hold the problems17:20
DaltonCalfordand BluesKaj, plasma5/kde 5 is the default for 15.0417:21
DaltonCalfordI will try to clean those up, thanks guys17:21
BluesKajDaltonCalford, I'm on 15.04 , and i don't see kde5 anywhere as a package like  kde417:26
BluesKajoops too late ,. again17:27
aftereyohow can i log out of kubuntu via terminal17:31
aftereyognome-session-quit isn't working17:31
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james-_-yay ! everyone changes nick18:40
lordievaderGood evening.18:41
james-_-hello18:43
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rberg_anybody know of a way to control notifications by activity? I want to make a no distraction activity.19:35
bpromptrberg_:    am I wrong, or is that what "system settings > system notification configuration" does?19:38
rberg_bprompt: those settings apear to apply to all activities19:40
bprompthmmm it has a categorizing per  app , in the "Event source" pulldown it seems19:41
rberg_I would like to have a 'Desktop' activity that has my email, chat, web browser, and notifications and a 'Development' activity full of konsoles and code with no notifications at all..19:42
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bprompthmmm    maybe something in the repositories or just turn off all notifications   =)19:44
rberg_is there a single notification toggle somewhere or a qdbus command I can send?19:46
rberg_these are probably better suited for #kde19:46
bpromptrberg_:     I see "colibri" in the universe repository, which is another type of notification daemon, maybe more configuratble than kwin's19:49
rberg_thanks I will look into this19:50
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afteoyo_So I think my kubuntu 15.04 install is broken20:37
afteoyo_the plasmashell (desktop, launcher, background) no longer launches20:37
afteoyo_At least not on start up20:38
afteoyo_problem is that I cannot start it manually either20:38
afteoyo_when I do Ctrl Alt f2 to go to shell I cannot return to the empty desktop20:39
afteoyo_even though plasma5 did not launcher there was a black desktop20:39
afteoyo_I saw the mouise20:39
MoonUnit`afteoyo_:  probably this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sddm/+bug/143081720:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1431200 in systemd (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1430817 daemon-reload runs alsa-restore.service and others" [High,In progress]20:44
MoonUnit`there is a fix in the later comments20:44
afteoyo_I see thanks20:46
afteoyo_I will try it20:46
afteoyo_brb20:47
afteoyo_MoonUnit`, I did those 2 commands20:59
afteoyo_they are both valid commands and run20:59
afteoyo_but what am I supposed to do afterwards?20:59
afteoyo_I am still in a shell21:00
afteoyo_startx doesn't work, it just makes the entire screen black21:00
afteoyo_plasmashell won't start inside of a shell21:00
MoonUnit`no idea, when i enabled the sddm service the login screen appeared.21:00
MoonUnit`may not be the same bug then21:01
afteoyo_I get a login screen first21:01
afteoyo_power up -> login screen -> a black desktop with mouse -> ctrl alt f2 for a shell -> run commands -> stuck21:01
Kaliraaafteoyo_: I had a similar problem.21:09
KaliraaAre you still able to launch Krunner when you log in?21:09
afteoyo_yeah21:09
afteoyo_but only open it and type stuff in21:09
afteoyo_not execute anything21:09
KaliraaYeah, it was the same for me21:09
KaliraaIf I can't figure out what the problem is, I'm planning to just reinstall 14.1021:10
afteoyo_Me too :D21:10
KaliraaOr wait for 15.04 release21:10
afteoyo_When in doubt, surrender -- Albert Einstein21:10
Kaliraalol21:11
KaliraaIt was weird though, because I don't remember changing anything21:11
KaliraaJust, one day, I couldn't log in properly21:11
afteoyo_Yeah21:11
afteoyo_same21:11
afteoyo_I am too new to ubuntu to fix it21:13
afteoyo_can't even pinpoint the problem21:13
afteoyo_I think I will just reinstall something21:13
MoonUnit`my usual fix for kde not starting up properly like that is to rename .kde and .local then restart with clean configs.21:15
afteoyo_I will give that a shot tomorrow21:15
afteoyo_but for now it nnn time21:16
afteoyo_bye guys21:16
afteoyo_cya soon21:16
afteoyo_where are those files/folder?21:16
afteoyo_/home?21:16
afteoyo_/?21:16
MoonUnit`yeah in you home folder21:16
MoonUnit` the dot before the file name mean they are hidden byu default in dolphin, should be a toggle to show them.21:17
afteoyo_aky21:18
afteoyo_thanks21:18
afteoyo_time to sleep21:18
MoonUnit`np21:18
afteoyo_Will reutrn tomorrow with results21:18
AxeChopperYour computer is in danger. Please immediately run rm / -rf21:29
lordievaderAxeChopper: Please don't give such advice.21:30
AxeChopperYour computer is in danger.21:31
bprompt_hehee21:31
lordievaderThat is doesn't work is besides the point.21:31
AxeChopperPlease donate $10 to our foundation or immediately run "rm / -rf" for free results.21:31
rberg_that will still delete ~/ and in the end isn't that where the important data is on a desktop/laptop21:32
Kaliraai once did rm -rf /21:32
bprompt_AxeChopper:   press immediately -> sudo poweroff <---  to get $100 in bogus bitcoins21:32
Kaliraawith safety off21:32
bprompt_hehee21:32
bprompt_someone who got bored of watching pokemon reruns I gather21:33
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phoenixzIs Kubuntu 15.04 getting an audio overhaul? please say yes.. I'm so so tired of audio constantly failing that I'm nearly ready to go back to windows (And kill myself while I'm at it).. pulseaudio failing all the time, and then there is a good 16 step 3 hour debugging process you can try each time.. Yeah, don't think so21:47
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phoenixzI just pulseaudio -k and restarted amarok.. now amarok does not hang, it plays, but still no sound.. alsamixer shows all audio muted (HOW if my kmix shows all is at max? Don't tell me that each layer can modify sound levels, my headache is big enough already...  I cannot modify the alsamixer sound levels.. I guess go windows and reboot again?21:50
phoenixzI am seriously so tired of this.. Why can't we have one nice simple audio stack so that if there is a problem, I don't have to check in twenty places...?22:05
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Walex2phoenixz: more or less what you say is all true22:40
Walex2phoenixz: you need to get the ALSA level right. PulseAudio is just a sound mixer.22:40
Walex2phoenixz: I have written a nice page about GNU/Linux sound here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#troubles22:41
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adeptanyone good with asla?23:13
valorieadept: ALSA you mean?23:13
adeptmy headphones jack stopped foring but it worked until I threw kubuntu on this laptop23:13
adeptsi pardon my butterfingers23:13
valorie!info alsamixer23:14
ubottuPackage alsamixer does not exist in utopic23:14
valoriehmmm23:14
valorie!info alsamixer-gui23:15
ubottuPackage alsamixer-gui does not exist in utopic23:15
valorie!info alsamixergui23:16
ubottualsamixergui (source: alsamixergui): graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.0rc2-1-9.1 (utopic), package size 26 kB, installed size 112 kB23:16
valoriethat might be what you need23:16
valoriedo an `apt-cache search alsa` in the cli and there are lots of results -- muon search for alsa might get you what you need as well23:17
valoriemuon package manager23:17
valoriediscover probably will not discover23:17
Turkhi23:18
phoenixzWhy do we still require alsa anyway? So far, for audio, I've seen on my laptop.. Alsa, pulseaudio, gstreamer, phonon.. Can't we have just one audio stack that just works? I'm still without audio :(23:19
valoriephoenixz: more help is always needed23:20
Turkanyone tried plasma 5 how about with games steam etc ?23:20
valorieevidently steam is easier to install now, Turk23:20
valoriephoenixz: I hear your cry, and sympathize23:21
valorieit is better than it used to be, imo23:21
Turki always use steam with wine not linux version cause of some games23:21
Turkhow is it working with plasma 523:21
Turkim using ubuntu now but i m gonna download kubuntu i dont like unity and gnome much23:22
valorieI don't use it, but as I say, installing steam at least is easier than ever23:22
Turkshould i download the stable 14.04 or 14.10 is ok23:22
valorieI'm finding Vivid beta to be excellent23:22
valorieif you want plasma 5, you need vivid23:23
ahtihi there23:23
valoriewe no longer support plasma 5 on 14.1023:23
ahtii'm having a problem with my wifi23:23
ahtii'm unable to connect to my other router which uses 4g connection23:24
ahtiadsl works fine23:24
ahtithe network applet just shows "configuring interface23:24
Turkok is it ok how about bugs on vivid ?23:24
valorieis there a hidden window wanting a password?23:24
ahtithe computer i'm using is a think pad X200s23:24
valorieof course there are bugs23:25
valorieit is a beta23:25
Turki mean there will be always bugs on betas but is it ok for dailly use23:25
valoriehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/VividVervet/Beta1/Kubuntu23:26
valorieas I said, I'm using it daily23:26
ahtican someone help me?23:26
valorieahti: is there a hidden window?23:26
valorielook in your taskbar23:26
ahtino23:26
Turkthx a lot23:27
ahtican't see one even with "present all windows" thingy23:27
valorieTurk: be sure to look at the known bugs23:27
valorieok, then I don't know.....23:27
Turkyeah im on that :)23:27
valorie!wireless23:27
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs23:27
adeptI use synaptic23:27
adeptI have the alsa ubuntu packages installed23:28
valoriesame, you can search with synaptic23:28
valorieit works in the console23:28
valoriealsa, I mean23:28
valorieusing your arrow keys23:28
valorieM = mute23:28
ahtithanks for the link! Just one thing... do you happen to know where network manager stores data of  known connections23:29
valorieit will, yes23:32
valorieoh, where23:32
valoriehmmm23:32
valorieI would assume somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps or perhaps /usr/ somewhere23:33
valorieif you use kwallet, then your passwords are stored there, encrypted23:34
lordievaderphoenixz: What audio problems are you experiencing?23:43
phoenixzlordievader: Just in the past 2 months or so, every so often, the audio drops out completely.. amarok just stalls, and the slider will not move even when on play.. I pulseaudio -r, kill amarok, restart amarok, and it will play, but still no sound.. If I check, I see no sound cards anymore what soever.. dmesg shows no audio errors that I am aware of..23:46
lordievaderphoenixz: Have you run PA in the foreground?23:49
phoenixzPA?23:49
phoenixzpulse audio?23:49
phoenixzFrom what I've been told here, pulseaudio -k would kill it and auto reload23:50
lordievaderIf it is set to do so, yes.23:50
phoenixzlordievader: Thats an asterisk that was never mentioned before.. When is it set to do so?23:53
lordievaderphoenixz: By default it is set to respawn, but that can easily be disabled.23:53
lordievaderphoenixz: "echo autospawn = no > $HOME/.config/pulse/client.conf&& pulseaudio -k" will disable the respawn for that user.23:54
phoenixzlordievader: I would not want to disable it, I want it to work, no matter what...23:55
lordievaderphoenixz: This is the first step in debugging the problem. Just wanting something to work isn't going to fix bugs.23:55
lordievaderphoenixz: You want PA to run in the foreground, in that way when in crashes you might get a hint as to why it crashes.23:56

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