[06:30] <maxi_retro> Does this channel support Ubuntu MATE?
[09:16] <iceroot> hi
[09:16] <iceroot> the latest dist-upgrade wants to remove "upstart". is that right? 15.04 will use systemd then instzead of upstart? or are the dependencies just broken?
[09:17] <k1l_> systemd is the default since monday
[09:23] <iceroot> k1l_: great, thank you
[12:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <innocent> Hello.Every time i start vivid (xfce) before i see the login promt screen goes white.Then i gotta click once , anywhere on the screen, to be able to see the actual login promt.I d like to request some guidance on how to report this or check if it is already reported
[12:53] <elfy> innocent: xfce or xubuntu? that said I've not seen it reported anywhere regardless
[12:53] <innocent> xubuntu
[12:54] <elfy> and ubuntu-bug xfdesktop4 to report it
[12:54] <elfy> this is new install? old one updated?
[12:54] <innocent> yeap figured it out a while ago
[12:55] <innocent> It started with a clean install of 14.04 upgraded to 15.04 due to some graphic stability issues
[12:57] <elfy> mmm ok - well as I said, not seen that reported
[12:58] <innocent> Its just something really minor.Anyway, thanks for your time!
[12:58] <elfy> welcome :)
[12:58] <elfy> innocent: mmm
[12:59] <elfy> actually - thinking back to earlier in the cycle I saw this myself - but it was at the first boot after a clean install
[12:59] <elfy> once I'd logged in then it never happened again
[13:00] <innocent> In my case its persistent.First time i encountered it i w8ed like 20 minutes before clicking :P
[13:00] <elfy> :)
[13:31] <aftereyo> I am using Kubuntu 15.04
[13:31] <aftereyo> And the alt+f2 window is stuck ont he top
[13:31] <aftereyo> just a frozen overlway
[13:31] <aftereyo> can I xkill it safely?
[13:32] <aftereyo> brb, restarting
[13:39] <aftereyo> I am using Kubuntu 15.04 and just ran the command dist-upgrade
[13:39] <aftereyo> but it didn't upgrade anything
[13:39] <aftereyo> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:39] <aftereyo> What does this mean?
[13:40] <elfy> that there's nothing to upgrade
[13:41] <BluesKaj> aftereyo, it means your OS is up to date , untill the next upgrades are released
[13:41] <aftereyo> when does that normally happen?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> there's no real schedule, I jsut check every day
[13:51] <aftereyo> So my keyboard in Kubuntu had just stopped working and I had to reboot
[18:42] <lordievader> Good evening.
[20:52] <cxdvty> Hey guys
[21:15] <cxdvty> ObrienDave: Yo
[21:16] <ObrienDave> what's up?
[21:18] <cxdvty> Do you know if ubuntu 15.04 will have plasma theme?
[21:19] <elfy> why would it?
[21:19] <elfy> it's ubuntu
[21:19] <ObrienDave> dunno, i'm not into the bells-and-whistles department
[21:20] <elfy> cxdvty: the flavours all do different things - that's why they are what they are basically
[21:21] <elfy> pretty much - what a flavour has now, it's going to have in April
[21:22] <elfy> cxdvty: there are various 'freezes' during a cycle, you can see the vivid dates here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[21:22] <ObrienDave> bells and whistles hold my interest for about 10 seconds
[21:23] <elfy> cxdvty: one's the UIF freeze - which afaik would be themes and the like
[21:23] <MoonUnit`> glad X 1.17 sneaked in
[21:24] <elfy> well - there's often sneaking in :p
[21:24] <elfy> I'm glad xfce 4.12 did :)
[22:24] <tswett> Hey everyone. I'm having some trouble with the touchscreen on my laptop. It's an Asus Q502LA-BBI5T12.
[22:24] <tswett> The touchscreen seems to work as a mouse, but as far as I can tell, X11 doesn't really seem to understand the touchscreen features.
[22:25] <tswett> evtest identifies the touchscreen as a "USBest Technology SiS HID Touch Controller". evtest does understand the touchscreeniness of it.
[22:26] <tswett> xev doesn't understand it, however. If I tap and hold the xev window with one finger, and then tap it with another finger, it doesn't see the second tap.
[22:39] <tswett> I see that evdev is being used as the driver for the touchscreen. I don't know how to tell if evdev is understanding it.
[22:40] <tswett> Judging by the log entries evdev produced, yes.
[23:09] <tswett> Now that I've played around a bit more, I think X *must* be understanding the touchscreen. If I tap with three fingers, a little disc with arrows on it appears and I can tap (or click) and drag to move the window around.
[23:09] <tswett> If I tap with four fingers, the Dash Home opens.
[23:11] <tswett> So then I'm wondering, if X understands the touchscreen, how come xev doesn't? Is pointer emulation enabled?
[23:19] <tswett> xinput --test thinks it's a mouse too.
[23:59] <tswett> It's starting to seem like the operating system is actually working perfectly; it's just that applications don't like the touchscreen.