| mapp | what to watch | 00:51 |
|---|---|---|
| mapp | eye candy ..sirens or that statham film wild card | 00:52 |
| mapp | hm | 00:52 |
| mapp | eye candy sounds iffy..and i expect a statham film will be same old same old? | 00:52 |
| mapp | hmmm | 01:07 |
| mapp | noone around again | 01:07 |
| diddledan | I'm here | 01:12 |
| diddledan | statham is always fun when you don't want to concentrate | 01:13 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| mapp | hey | 03:20 |
| mapp | yea | 03:20 |
| mapp | diddledan | 03:20 |
| mapp | sometimes films where you dont need to concentrate are good;p fall asleep..miss 30mins..doesnt matter | 03:20 |
| diddledan | ello | 03:20 |
| ali1234 | er... what is steam broadcasting? | 03:21 |
| diddledan | no idea | 03:21 |
| ali1234 | on my steam profile there's a button that says "watch game" | 03:21 |
| mapp | the tennis? | 03:21 |
| mapp | :d | 03:21 |
| === m0nkey_ is now known as m0nkey_|away | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 08:13 |
| knightwise | morning everyone | 08:23 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| DJones | Sheesh, these Fedora chaps have no patience, say "morning" and quit :) | 08:26 |
| DJones | Morning | 08:26 |
| popey | heh | 08:34 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:16 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday the 13th, and happy Digital Learning Day! :-D | 09:38 |
| davmor2 | JamesTait: I moved crystal lake next door to you so lock up the doors really tight :D | 09:45 |
| knightwise | Mornin peeps | 09:56 |
| knightwise | Im starting to doubt myself. Have a mega expensive macbook. All I love to do all day is use it as a glorified thin client to connect to the apps on my 30 euro Raspberry pi. | 09:59 |
| foobarry | hehe | 10:00 |
| knightwise | I love my OSX environment but mostly I just run a Chromixium VM fullscreen so I have access to all the command line apps i like | 10:04 |
| foobarry | http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/03/12/google-code-will-shut-down-in-january-2016-because-almost-no-one-uses-it-anymore/ | 10:04 |
| foobarry | this is why i don't want to use google keep, and plenty of other google services that die after a short unhappy life | 10:04 |
| diplo | I honestly think it's a good idea foobarry, actually agree with Google | 10:06 |
| diplo | Nearly everything I see on Google Code is dead | 10:06 |
| diplo | Github et all are a much better platform | 10:06 |
| foobarry | why is it dead | 10:06 |
| foobarry | because google never fed their pet? | 10:06 |
| Myrtti | IIRC all Google Services that were inhouse developed (opposed by acquihire projects like Jaiku etc) that have been shut down have all had a method of exporting the data or transferring them elsewhere | 10:06 |
| diplo | Because people are moving to github | 10:06 |
| Myrtti | because git > svn | 10:07 |
| diplo | Defo | 10:07 |
| foobarry | we can a github enterprise inhouse, its a pain | 10:07 |
| foobarry | and not very open source friendly product | 10:07 |
| foobarry | although it hosts OSS code | 10:07 |
| foobarry | :S | 10:07 |
| diplo | They could have changed it all over probably, but why bother when there are other prods out there doing a better job | 10:07 |
| foobarry | they could have made a better prodcut | 10:08 |
| diplo | But why bother when there are better products on the market that are fre | 10:09 |
| diplo | https://www.gitorious.org/ | 10:09 |
| diplo | Can run your own | 10:09 |
| diplo | Can use Github itself or bitbucket et all | 10:09 |
| diplo | I never liked google code site, I did like the search feature for searching up code though, not sure if that is available | 10:10 |
| popey | also, launchpad ㋛ | 10:11 |
| diplo | heh, didn't get on so well with launchpad, but that was more me than it being bad :) | 10:12 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:29 |
| diddledan | allo | 10:39 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | I think I want to buy a few big discs | 11:16 |
| foobarry | just be careful when you type that in to google | 11:16 |
| diddledan | lol, I almost mistyped when writing it in here | 11:17 |
| diddledan | because I usually refer to them as the other word when speaking aloud | 11:17 |
| foobarry | disks? | 11:17 |
| foobarry | big hard disks? | 11:18 |
| diddledan | replace the first s with a c | 11:18 |
| foobarry | you have a dirty mind sir, i was thinking of something competely different | 11:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | and don't be rash with ssds either | 11:18 |
| diddledan | lol | 11:18 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, nah this is for a raidy-array | 11:18 |
| zmoylan-pi | tape it is... :-) | 11:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | 10 tape drives whirring away, whirring, stuttering, whining, driving you bonkers. and thats before the blinky lights and beeping and booping :-) | 11:20 |
| diddledan | blinky lights are awesomesauce! | 11:20 |
| zmoylan-pi | those microbits with their 5x5 led grid could be very cool | 11:21 |
| diddledan | das ist nicht fur gefinger-poken mit de spits-n-sparken | 11:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | thinking of blinky lights as airplane is 35 years old now. | 11:22 |
| diddledan | :-o | 11:22 |
| diddledan | love that movie | 11:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | and don't call me shirley | 11:23 |
| diddledan | that's an entirely different matter, all together | 11:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | looked i picked the wrong day to quit smoking | 11:24 |
| foobarry | is it true about the macbook with no usb ports? | 11:39 |
| directhex | it has one usb type C port | 11:42 |
| directhex | which is used for power, as well as accessories | 11:42 |
| directhex | if you want power *and* accessories at the same time, a) OMG SO GREEDY 2) you need an adapter to provide more ports. apple has an $80 dongle which is USBC->USBC,HDMI,USBA | 11:43 |
| brobostigon | anyone by chance used opensimilator? | 11:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | at least this time most people have moved on before they shut it down unlike reader | 11:44 |
| directhex | brobostigon: not for a long time | 11:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | whoops wrong channel | 11:44 |
| brobostigon | directhex: did you ever look at the irc bridge module? | 11:45 |
| directhex | no | 11:45 |
| brobostigon | ok, | 11:45 |
| knightwise | directhex: I agree on the new macbook. The specs are too low, the ports are too few and who ever put in a 480P webcam hasn't been outside for a couple of years. | 11:54 |
| directhex | knightwise: the new macbook serves a niche. you may not be in that niche | 11:54 |
| directhex | i certainly wouldn't buy one | 11:54 |
| zmoylan-pi | when even the new chrome pixel looks better than the new macbook... :-) | 11:55 |
| directhex | that's also niche, and appeals to me no more than the macbook | 11:55 |
| zmoylan-pi | but it has _2_ ports i think :-) | 11:56 |
| zmoylan-pi | and cheaper | 11:56 |
| knightwise | I have a macbook (pro). Its a 15 inch powerhouse with a decent processor ,ram and storage. Its a workhorse. The new 12 inch macbook is an overpriced underperforming excuse for a netbook. | 11:57 |
| directhex | zmoylan-pi: it also has barely any local storage, making it junk | 11:57 |
| knightwise | im not saying i need an RS332 port to be happy but 1 port is ludicrous. | 11:57 |
| zmoylan-pi | but we all live in the cloud now directhex :-) | 11:58 |
| directhex | not on a mac we don't, the crummy broadcom wifi barely works in linux | 11:58 |
| zmoylan-pi | that's your punishment for deviating from the true mac os | 11:59 |
| directhex | macos is a garbage toy | 12:05 |
| directhex | in my professional opinion, anyway | 12:05 |
| zmoylan-pi | no arguments here. i liked it when i abandoned windows but it became too constraining so moved on to linux. seems to be the path of quite a few folk i know | 12:06 |
| directhex | i use a usb ethernet card for my work macbook, due to broadcom sucking | 12:09 |
| foobarry | so that pic of the mac pCB is true? | 12:11 |
| foobarry | tiny pi sized board on the bcp | 12:11 |
| foobarry | mbp | 12:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | but not the same price :-) | 12:12 |
| directhex | foobarry: yes. largely due to ports though | 12:13 |
| directhex | and the intel soc is 14nm process, rpi is a whopping 40nm | 12:14 |
| directhex | so transistor density is hugely different | 12:14 |
| foobarry | MBair haven't gone ARM yet? | 12:15 |
| directhex | not this time around. | 12:16 |
| directhex | intel can compete with ARM, and also be intel compatible, so maybe they never will | 12:16 |
| popey | more likely to go the other way - intel ipad | 12:28 |
| foobarry | :-| | 12:29 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| popey | although it works fine for android having both architectures | 12:30 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| ujjain | if I want to buy stocks, I should fund a stock isa, right? | 13:33 |
| diddledan | who here happens to be a financial advisor, perchance? | 13:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | hand me your wallet, i'm the wallet inspector | 13:38 |
| popey | i handed my wallet to someone on my stag do | 13:40 |
| popey | ended up with some pain a few weeks later when (new) wifey found a card in there apparently written by "Kim" who had a "Lovely time" | 13:41 |
| popey | (my mate Steve wrote it) | 13:41 |
| Azelphur | I'm loving flashblock + youtubes separate audio/video streaming setup...flashblock has blocked the video but the audio is still playing, so I can listen to music without wasting loads of resources :D | 14:03 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| Azelphur | aww yis, just got a letter randomly from the council telling me they've moved my property from council tax band D to C :D | 14:41 |
| NET||abuse | hi folks. | 15:09 |
| NET||abuse | i've installed mate along side unity, most things in unity are unaffected, accept, my notifications are suddenly in mate style,, | 15:09 |
| === Hornet- is now known as Hornet | ||
| NET||abuse | an gtk style pop up | 15:22 |
| NET||abuse | looks pretty bad. | 15:22 |
| === daftykin1 is now known as daftykins | ||
| daftykins | afty all | 16:27 |
| directhex | I HUNGER | 16:28 |
| directhex | FEED ME, DAFTY | 16:28 |
| daftykins | uuuh, sorry my cupboards are bare and it's raining :( | 16:31 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| davmor2 | daftykins: feed him the cupboards | 17:21 |
| daftykins | let him eat cupboard! | 17:22 |
| diddledan | FEED ME TOOH! | 17:24 |
| diddledan | I HUNGY | 17:24 |
| diddledan | ME EEET | 17:24 |
| diddledan | seriously, this network appears to be completely dead today - since I last looked at IRC there's been 6 lines in here and zero in ALL the channels I'm in besides | 17:25 |
| diddledan | lots of joining and farting though | 17:26 |
| diddledan | s/f/p | 17:26 |
| ali1234 | lovely | 17:26 |
| diddledan | the fart was because I was talking about brainfarts in company's slack chat | 17:27 |
| daftykins | i was out in the real world today | 17:32 |
| daftykins | got heavily rained on, on the ride home too :D | 17:33 |
| shauno | the real world was sunny here! not warm, just sunny | 17:34 |
| daftykins | wowzer | 17:35 |
| shauno | off work until the 21st now. not actually sure what to do with all the time | 17:39 |
| daftykins | finish your hifi pi! | 17:41 |
| shauno | don't be silly. I don't finish anything I start :) | 17:41 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:42 |
| shauno | was actually just looking at that oled display I got. it arrived today, and ... well it was bigger in my head (sh'up dan) | 17:43 |
| daftykins | ;] | 17:46 |
| daftykins | heh, this mates Windows laptop i had to decrapify was missing a screw beside a hinge, so it was being pried apart when flipped open | 17:46 |
| daftykins | none of my spare screws fit, so i just took one from where it was far less needed :P | 17:47 |
| shauno | (other than that, said project is currently making loud noises :) | 17:48 |
| daftykins | ooh very good | 17:49 |
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| shauno | hah, took a guess at how to resize the filesystem and it seems to have worked. phew! | 19:16 |
| daftykins | XD | 19:16 |
| daftykins | i don't fancy attacking one of my desktops to clone a laptop HDD to an SSD, so i'm trying clonezilla's disk to image right now | 19:16 |
| shauno | that's something I've never toyed with | 19:17 |
| daftykins | aside from clonezilla freaking out that it detected GPT remnants on the MBR installed disk, it's gone swimmingly from internal disk to a USB3 external i have | 19:19 |
| daftykins | now doing the drive transplant and then i shall restore to this SSD | 19:19 |
| daftykins | very easy :) | 19:19 |
| zmoylan-pi | fingers crossed | 19:19 |
| daftykins | excellent, SSD transplanted and now backing that one up to my external first | 19:28 |
| daftykins | so that's yet another 500GB mechanical laptop HDD i've got knocking around here doing nothing ^_^ | 19:29 |
| daftykins | oh dear ISP of mine, not back to giving me a faulty line card are we? tut tut | 19:30 |
| shauno | you say that like it's a good thing? | 19:30 |
| daftykins | the HDD thing? | 19:31 |
| shauno | yeah | 19:32 |
| daftykins | yeah 'tis quite wasteful really | 19:32 |
| shauno | I've started transplanting old ssd's into external caddies. now that feels like a waste | 19:33 |
| zmoylan-pi | all those non spinning disks not helping stabilise the earth as gyroscopes... | 19:33 |
| daftykins | right, got my usual 3 infinite pings running again | 19:34 |
| daftykins | lets see if it was just a freak coincidence or whether my connection really is wonky again ;) | 19:34 |
| zmoylan-pi | the ping of let's see :-) | 19:34 |
| daftykins | one from a PC to the router, one to the first hop on the ISP side and one to Google UK | 19:34 |
| daftykins | i had this before where a wonky linecard was periodically dropping all packets for a couple of seconds | 19:35 |
| daftykins | took a few calls to get them to do something about that one ;) | 19:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | intermittent problems are the most... fun | 19:35 |
| shauno | hm, that reminds me of the time I was terribly rude to my isp's tech support. I ended up just sitting and reading each ping time until they found me someone else to talk to | 19:35 |
| daftykins | lmao | 19:35 |
| shauno | "12 .. 20 ........ 3000." | 19:35 |
| zmoylan-pi | the speaking ping.... | 19:36 |
| shauno | hm, I think there's fable somewhere of someone piping ping into festival and then walking around wiggling cables while it chattered to itself | 19:36 |
| zmoylan-pi | we had a bugs bunny line that we had them come out over a dozen times and it was still unrepaired. if you rang the number it wouldn't ring, if you rang out on it then incoming calls would come in for a day or so. not good for a fax line | 19:37 |
| daftykins | wow, my wired connection between PC and router is occasionally spiking to 5, 7 or 11ms instead of <1 | 19:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | sounds like a network card or cable, maybe | 19:38 |
| daftykins | i am saturating my upload at the moment, i wonder if my ISP supplied router is too pants to handle that ;D | 19:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | try pinging another device on your network at same time | 19:39 |
| daftykins | that's a good idea | 19:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | occasionly i do have good ones :-) | 19:40 |
| zmoylan-pi | very occasionly i have a doozy :-D | 19:40 |
| daftykins | oh i wouldn't dream of doubting you, sir! | 19:40 |
| daftykins | ooh yes, shows up going from file server to my desktop too | 19:41 |
| daftykins | intel PCI-E 1x NIC | 19:41 |
| daftykins | ah well, not like it's the end of the world | 19:41 |
| zmoylan-pi | unless you're playing games over lan :-) | 19:41 |
| daftykins | not me! | 19:42 |
| daftykins | cor, i've been asked to look at plotters | 19:59 |
| daftykins | http://www.ebuyer.com/406412-hp-designjet-t120-24-eprinter-cq891a-b19 | 19:59 |
| daftykins | £708 O_O | 19:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | you'd be better off getting someone off dole cheap on government scheme and a sharpie marker :-) | 20:00 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:02 |
| daftykins | lego mindstorms kit! | 20:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | or infinite monkies and a sharpie... but who has the space :-) | 20:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | a radio controlled car guided by pc... | 20:03 |
| zmoylan-pi | think of the fun you can have during work hours 'configuring' it | 20:04 |
| daftykins | XD | 20:07 |
| zmoylan-pi | and the second car is for calibration... | 20:10 |
| daftykins | ooh i am bad, tempted by takeaway yet again | 20:11 |
| diddledan | daftykins, what you uploading that's saturising your link? | 20:11 |
| daftykins | this and that (: | 20:12 |
| shauno | I'm so confused. I can't install libsdl2 because it's trying to overwrite a file that also exists in libsdl2 | 20:13 |
| diddledan | shauno, maybe someone packaged something else wonkily? | 20:13 |
| daftykins | same package twice? | 20:13 |
| shauno | I'm honestly not sure. it's a cluser .. potato | 20:14 |
| shauno | *cluster | 20:14 |
| diddledan | cluster potato? | 20:14 |
| diddledan | I know you're trying to be irish, but .. clustered spud? | 20:14 |
| diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gXge6td1jfM | 20:15 |
| shauno | ah, okay. something is trying to use libsdl2, and something else is trying to use libsdl2-2.0-0 | 20:16 |
| shauno | one provides 2.0.2, and one provides 2.0.3 | 20:16 |
| diddledan | err | 20:16 |
| shauno | so I'll go make coffee while it tries apt-get update, see if maybe I just caught the mirror with its pants down | 20:17 |
| diddledan | do mirrors wear pants? | 20:19 |
| daftykins | best not to ask such things | 20:20 |
| shauno | there are some things you're simply better off not knowing | 20:20 |
| diddledan | I suppose the question should be raised at some point: do you do your danglies up? | 20:25 |
| shauno | I may require your mother's email address. | 20:26 |
| diddledan | she doesn't have email | 20:26 |
| diddledan | well she does. she just doesn't know how to work it | 20:27 |
| diddledan | she probably isn't even aware it exists | 20:27 |
| shauno | hm. how else am I going to tell on you? | 20:28 |
| shauno | okay, I have no idea what I've done, but both soundcards appear in alsa now | 20:29 |
| shauno | well, I know what I've been doing, but I know I couldn't repeat it again lol | 20:29 |
| diddledan | shauno, what you working on? | 20:37 |
| shauno | trying to install retropie on debian. without breaking all the mess that volumio have made | 20:38 |
| shauno | (well, I have to mess some of it up later, because they seem to have broken wifi & ipv6) | 20:39 |
| shauno | this seems to be the downside of these pre-canned images. they take it as license to do everything the most clumsy way they can | 20:40 |
| shauno | so trying to munge together two of them involves a lot of running around and asking people to please keep off the grass | 20:40 |
| diddledan | why are they shipping different versions of libraries? are they not on the same base raspbian? | 20:45 |
| shauno | if I knew the answer to that, I'd probably be half way there :) | 20:52 |
| shauno | still not happy about sdl. bah | 21:01 |
| shauno | just brought up my working copy on another pi - seems retropie is using wheezy and volumio is using jessie | 21:02 |
| shauno | but they are both raspbian at least | 21:03 |
| diddledan | which one is newer? | 21:03 |
| diddledan | wheezy? | 21:03 |
| shauno | jessie is 8.x and wheezy is 7.x .. I think | 21:04 |
| diddledan | it was simpler when there was "stable" whatever it happened to be and "lenny" was the "in the distance" release | 21:05 |
| diddledan | I always assumed lenny was a pseudo-static release name for the dev version no matter what releases had happened | 21:05 |
| shauno | lol, nope | 21:05 |
| shauno | sid's the static one | 21:06 |
| shauno | lenny is oldstable, wheezy is stable, jessie is testing, sid is unstable | 21:06 |
| diddledan | so volumio shouldn't have based on jessie then - seeing as that version is testing :-p | 21:06 |
| shauno | most likely :) | 21:07 |
| shauno | I'm getting really tempted to just start with raspbian and try to build them both up from scratch. rather than trying to install on onto the other's canned image | 21:07 |
| diddledan | of course the naive side of me says "just apt-get source and build it yourself" | 21:07 |
| diddledan | heh, jinx | 21:08 |
| shauno | I believe volumio has a bunch of latency-obsessed kernel patches | 21:08 |
| shauno | other than that, it's just mpd and some messed up webapp | 21:08 |
| daftykins | hrmm ok, slight roadblock there. my image is from a 500GB disk with a 100MB partition and a 100GB partition... but clonezilla won't restore it to a 180GB SSD | 21:09 |
| diddledan | daftykins, eh? | 21:09 |
| diddledan | daftykins, that doesn't make sense | 21:09 |
| diddledan | daftykins, do it with gparted | 21:09 |
| daftykins | bit weird isn't it | 21:09 |
| diddledan | or dd | 21:09 |
| daftykins | hmm might work | 21:10 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: what filesystem? | 21:10 |
| shauno | hah, I've just noticed what's breaking. the installer script for retropie is downloading specific versions of packages | 21:10 |
| diddledan | recreate the partition table on the new disk (maybe give a bit of space in-hand for each partition for expansion) and then dd the partitions across followed by a resizefs | 21:11 |
| shauno | I kinda assumed they weren't linux partitions ;) | 21:11 |
| daftykins | intrbiz: it's a win7 install, so NTFS | 21:11 |
| diddledan | ntfsresize then | 21:11 |
| diddledan | or is it resizentfs? | 21:12 |
| diddledan | one or the other | 21:12 |
| daftykins | no no, 100MB + 100GB fits into 180GB fine :D but for some reason clonezilla goes "these came from a 500GB! i can't do this!" | 21:12 |
| daftykins | turns out clonezilla's "img" is actually a folder with a tonne of separate files too, not just a single file to dd | 21:12 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: when you say a 100GB partition, do you actually mean there is 400GB unpartitioned space on the disk? | 21:12 |
| daftykins | yes | 21:12 |
| shauno | daftykins: the latter is probably a good thing. hoisting around whole 100GB files really limits what filesystems you can use | 21:12 |
| daftykins | i did that intentionally so it could fit | 21:13 |
| diddledan | daftykins, no, I mean with the resize fs step to ensure that a rounding error doesn't cause your filesystem to spew off the end of the partition into mid-air | 21:13 |
| intrbiz | daftykins: ah ok, then I'd just DD each partition to the new disk | 21:13 |
| daftykins | yeah clonezilla seems to have stored the source partitions in split files >_< | 21:13 |
| shauno | back in my day we'd just pipe tar into tar :( | 21:13 |
| daftykins | in fact that's because it's imaged the data only | 21:14 |
| daftykins | if i partition manually on the disk i might be able to tell clonezilla to do each partition to partition :> | 21:14 |
| diddledan | shauno, tar Jc /dir | tar Jx /target? | 21:14 |
| diddledan | (I chose J on purpose to see who would spot the evilness of that) | 21:15 |
| diddledan | hint. xzip | 21:15 |
| intrbiz | shauno: surely that would do a file level copy, rather than a raw byte by byte copy which dd does | 21:15 |
| diddledan | intrbiz, with linux systems a file-level copy is sufficient | 21:16 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: not in all situations | 21:16 |
| diddledan | the only bit you'd need to dd is the mbr | 21:16 |
| diddledan | but grub-install can bypass that | 21:16 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: there are times where you want a byte by byte clone of the disk | 21:17 |
| diddledan | I'm a pervert - got choccy-fudge cake! \o/ | 21:17 |
| daftykins | diddledan: :O | 21:18 |
| daftykins | i haven't even done food yet | 21:18 |
| shauno | lol, nah, no compression. just tar cf --one-file-system - | (cd /somewhere/else; tar xvpf -) | 21:18 |
| intrbiz | diddledan: plus you'd need to ensure tar copies things like extended attributes and capabilities | 21:18 |
| shauno | (or throw ssh in the middle to be evil) | 21:19 |
| intrbiz | shauno: or netcat | 21:20 |
| diddledan | ssh localhost tar Jcf --one-file-system - | ssh localhost tar Jxf - -C /somewhere/else | 21:21 |
| diddledan | :-p | 21:21 |
| diddledan | mess with all the things | 21:22 |
| diddledan | ! | 21:22 |
| shauno | okay, it seems I need to build my own sdl | 21:24 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 21:24 |
| daftykins | ok i think i won, i used the windows installer to create the same partitions then booted back into clonezilla to restore image partition -> actual partition | 21:25 |
| daftykins | seems to be working O_. | 21:25 |
| shauno | does windows not have a built-in widget to do this? lol | 21:26 |
| daftykins | do what? | 21:26 |
| shauno | migrate drives | 21:26 |
| daftykins | not that i know of ^_^ | 21:26 |
| daftykins | i like clonezilla though, just didn't realise it would be so protective it wouldn't let you restore an image onto a smaller disk if the sum of the partitions are < the new disk | 21:27 |
| shauno | eg, on my mac I'd just take the old drive out, put a new drive in, stick the old drive in an external caddy, and then when the installer asks, point it to the external | 21:27 |
| daftykins | well i don't have such a caddy y'see | 21:27 |
| daftykins | the alternative approach would've been to put two disks in a desktop, which i don't feel like doing :> | 21:27 |
| daftykins | no SATA ports free on my deskie | 21:28 |
| shauno | a nerd that doesn't have one of those top-loading externals?! | 21:28 |
| daftykins | hell to the no | 21:28 |
| shauno | :( | 21:29 |
| daftykins | but yeah as it happens disk to disk wouldn't have worked anyway due to the silly size thing | 21:29 |
| daftykins | partition to partition only works if they exist on both sides, which is odd | 21:29 |
| daftykins | ook cloned already \o/ | 21:29 |
| diddledan | that were quick | 21:31 |
| daftykins | well, i restored the win7 100MB and 100GB, it failed to boot but my win7 flash drive fixed boot, it chkdsk'd, then all is ok | 21:35 |
| daftykins | so a bit messy but it worked :> | 21:35 |
| daftykins | dd'ing the boot sector and partitions might've been easier, albeit with more unnecessary writes | 21:35 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/obtivmgxs0nitj2/VID_20150313_213725.mp4?dl=0 | 21:40 |
| daftykins | there's the super noisy unjustified resolution vid ;D | 21:41 |
| === m0nkey_|away is now known as m0nkey_ | ||
| daftykins | these might be a new addiction - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mmrykai5qihrode/IMG_20150309_192112.jpg?dl=0 | 21:47 |
| shauno | hm, the wee book that comes with the new pi feels quite meaty, but it turns out there's nothing in it. 130 pages of nothing lol | 21:48 |
| daftykins | blank!? | 21:48 |
| shauno | nah, "the hdmi cable goes in the hdmi slot" in 16 languages | 21:48 |
| shauno | I really should find more to do with them though. I have 5 now :/ | 21:49 |
| daftykins | haha | 21:49 |
| daftykins | ugh, yep linecard issue confirmed =| | 21:50 |
| daftykins | 4 packets dropped to telco first hop IP and google UK at the same time | 21:51 |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2icy3e3tz9469zm/pingpong.png?dl=0 | 21:52 |
| mapp | so yea | 22:02 |
| mapp | my date stood me up | 22:02 |
| * mapp expected | 22:02 | |
| daftykins | =[ | 22:02 |
| mapp | thought that would happen | 22:03 |
| daftykins | how come? | 22:03 |
| mapp | well just seemed to want attention and mess me about | 22:06 |
| mapp | 'oh dont know what im doing bla bla' usua;l excuses | 22:06 |
| mapp | i expect she's back with her ex | 22:06 |
| daftykins | messy! | 22:08 |
| daftykins | mapp: where in the world are you this evening then? | 22:10 |
| diddledan | itsnotyouitsme, why the pingpong? | 22:11 |
| daftykins | a mate finally found and gave back to me a 320GB USB 2 HDD i gave him a few years ago :D | 22:12 |
| daftykins | syncing up my music collection to it now \o/ | 22:12 |
| zmoylan-pi | 320gb... seemed huge back then... my first external usb hd was 500mb | 22:13 |
| daftykins | :) | 22:13 |
| diddledan | I'm busy copying data from a JBOD to a raid-5-ish windows storage space with both arrays being the same set of drives | 22:13 |
| diddledan | zmoylan-pi, my first internal was 20MB | 22:14 |
| diddledan | it was huge | 22:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | same here but office had 5 and 10mb full height drives for cpm computers that we used as doorstops | 22:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | 10k brand new | 22:15 |
| daftykins | diddledan: partitions for each? 0o | 22:15 |
| diddledan | we had a 20MB HardCard, too, but it was cronky so we split it into two partitions using spinrite to get the bad bits mostly in one of the partitions | 22:15 |
| diddledan | daftykins, nope, exactly the same bits of disc | 22:15 |
| zmoylan-pi | oooooh had a hard card too. on a wobbly daughter board as it was too short to reach the supports on front end of case | 22:16 |
| daftykins | what on earth voodoo are you performing there, diddledan O_O | 22:16 |
| diddledan | daftykins, INORITE | 22:16 |
| diddledan | daftykins, it's magic | 22:17 |
| diddledan | daftykins, but it's workibng | 22:17 |
| daftykins | diddledan: you just got jealous of my disk fun, didn't you? | 22:17 |
| diddledan | :-) | 22:17 |
| daftykins | :D | 22:17 |
| daftykins | ok i have a curry to fetch | 22:17 |
| diddledan | I wanna buy some bigger ones | 22:17 |
| daftykins | bbl | 22:17 |
| diddledan | tata | 22:17 |
| shauno | you're tempting murphy there :p I'd stick with "but it looks like it's working" for now ;) | 22:17 |
| daftykins | ^ lol | 22:17 |
| daftykins | so true | 22:17 |
| diddledan | shauno, always with the irish, you. | 22:18 |
| shauno | "sod's law" is more difficult to work with. you can't morph it into "tempting sod" | 22:18 |
| shauno | well this is getting interesting. debuild can't build libsdl2 even before modifications | 22:24 |
| diddledan | eep | 22:26 |
| shauno | configure's failing without giving a message. thx configure. | 22:27 |
| diddledan | I've yet to figure out how autotools actually work | 22:28 |
| shauno | protip: they don't | 22:28 |
| shauno | hm, it seems to be quite upset that 'uname -p' returns 'unknown' | 22:31 |
| shauno | okay, nope, both my real machines do that too | 22:32 |
| shauno | found it :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/10593621/ | 22:35 |
| diddledan | doesn't like the stack-protector flag | 22:40 |
| shauno | yeah. I have no idea where that's coming from though. that string doesn't exist in the source folder | 22:41 |
| shauno | so autoconf is adding it? | 22:41 |
| shauno | okay, ugliest fix ever \o/ | 22:48 |
| shauno | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10593686/ :D | 22:49 |
| shauno | (interestingly, that string is in Vendor/Debian.pm but not Vendor/Ubuntu.pm) | 22:50 |
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| shauno | okay, I give. I'm gonna start on a plain wheezy and stuff them both in. this is daft. | 23:27 |
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