| Kilos | morning all | 04:59 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi barrydk | 05:48 |
| barrydk | More almal | 05:48 |
| Kilos | hi TinuvaMac | 05:49 |
| TinuvaMac | morning Kilos | 05:50 |
| Kilos | hi Padroni | 06:08 |
| Padroni | hi | 06:08 |
| Padroni | how are you? | 06:08 |
| Kilos | im good ty and you? | 06:08 |
| Padroni | I'm good | 06:09 |
| Padroni | 24 hours and my next batch of beer is ready for tasting. | 06:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:09 |
| Kilos | do you save lots making your own | 06:10 |
| Kilos | or do you just drink more | 06:10 |
| Padroni | well I guess you summed it up? | 06:15 |
| Padroni | lol | 06:15 |
| Padroni | supposed to save more | 06:15 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:16 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:25 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:25 |
| Padroni | hi mazal | 06:25 |
| Symmetria | morning | 06:53 |
| * Symmetria is depressed over terry pratchett :( | 06:53 | |
| Padroni | yeah that's bad | 06:54 |
| Padroni | So long, and thank you for the stories :( | 06:54 |
| Symmetria | used to talk to him on efnet a fair bit when he still came on | 06:55 |
| Symmetria | he spent a lot of time on irc | 06:55 |
| Padroni | you spoke to him? | 06:55 |
| Padroni | damn son | 06:55 |
| Symmetria | yeah, he used to hang out on efnet a fair bit, was friends with a couple of the old school admins | 06:56 |
| Padroni | I saw Kanye West claims he wants to be the next Nelson Mandela... | 06:56 |
| Symmetria | myself, darthmaul, brett and thembones | 06:56 |
| Symmetria | all used to chat to pratchett | 06:56 |
| Padroni | 'The next Nelson Mandela.' | 06:57 |
| Symmetria | Kayne West is an idiot | 06:57 |
| Padroni | Dear Kanye. Your wife is a pornstar and your kid is a compass. Take a seat, son. | 06:57 |
| Symmetria | dude the better one was charlie sheen | 06:58 |
| Symmetria | announcing he is gonna run for president | 06:58 |
| Padroni | that could kinda work... | 06:58 |
| Symmetria | and wants his dad to be his vice president, except, his dad told him to stfu and stick to acting | 06:58 |
| Symmetria | yeah you can have a drunk cokehead with the ability to launch nukes, no thanks ;p | 06:59 |
| Padroni | just | 06:59 |
| Padroni | wrong | 06:59 |
| inetpro | hood mornings | 07:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:02 |
| Kilos | put glasses on inetpro | 07:02 |
| Kilos | morning to you | 07:02 |
| Padroni | hi inetpro | 07:03 |
| inetpro | eh Kilos, is is not funny hat friday? | 07:03 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 07:03 |
| inetpro | lol | 07:04 |
| inetpro | Padroni: hi | 07:04 |
| inetpro | sorry Kilos, that was an honest mistake as well, I'll rephrase | 07:08 |
| inetpro | good mornings to all and sundry! | 07:08 |
| Kilos | lol i thought so | 07:08 |
| Kilos | type too fast when half asleep still | 07:08 |
| inetpro | ai! | 07:09 |
| * mazal bekyk dinge | 07:09 | |
| Kilos | en wat sien jy mazal | 07:10 |
| mazal | Kilos: No comment :P | 07:10 |
| mazal | Having Monday on Friday again :( | 07:10 |
| Kilos | jy moet my pro groet man | 07:10 |
| mazal | Morning Kilos se pro :) | 07:11 |
| Kilos | haha | 07:11 |
| mazal | Morning maaz | 07:11 |
| mazal | maaz I hope you brought food today | 07:11 |
| Maaz | mazal: Huh? | 07:11 |
| mazal | maaz want to go to couples counceling that we can work on our communication ? | 07:13 |
| Maaz | mazal: If you say so | 07:13 |
| mazal | lol | 07:13 |
| Kilos | Maaz what's for lunch | 07:14 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first. | 07:14 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:14 |
| mazal | Oe I like that ! | 07:14 |
| Kilos | Maaz what's for lunch | 07:15 |
| Maaz | Kilos: How about some sushi? | 07:15 |
| Kilos | Maaz what's for lunch | 07:15 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Go get Chippies, your friends will love you | 07:15 |
| Kilos | sjoe how many has he got stuck in there | 07:15 |
| Kilos | Maaz what's for lunch | 07:15 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Coffee should be enough... | 07:15 |
| mazal | Everything except burgers | 07:15 |
| Kilos | Maaz what's for lunch | 07:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: How about some soup? | 07:16 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:16 |
| Kilos | i wanna be one of these but the pro has jumped in first | 07:22 |
| Kilos | benevolent dictator | 07:22 |
| inetpro | ai! | 07:24 |
| inetpro | hullo mazal | 07:24 |
| Kilos | oh my | 07:30 |
| Kilos | shouldnt this be is not are | 07:30 |
| Kilos | Sometimes all the data are not available, or consensus is elusive. A decision must still be made. | 07:31 |
| Kilos | oh ya inetpro you got some work again | 07:34 |
| Kilos | i have a map of africa to got in the place of the za flag for africa | 07:35 |
| Kilos | to go | 07:35 |
| Kilos | ill break things if i do it | 07:35 |
| mazal | You two are confusing me a lot this morning | 07:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:44 |
| mazal | Speaking in tongues I don't understand | 07:44 |
| Kilos | thats because you game too much and dont follow the trend | 07:44 |
| mazal | Issie , I work too much | 07:44 |
| Kilos | i have a massive job thats way beyond me | 07:44 |
| Kilos | so the clever peeps help when i nag enough | 07:45 |
| Kilos | mazal werent you supposed to learn about bzr and nikola? | 07:46 |
| Kilos | bzr at least | 07:46 |
| Kilos | hi SDCDev | 07:47 |
| mazal | Kilos: nope | 07:49 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:50 |
| mazal | Never my plan that , I can't code | 07:50 |
| Kilos | nor can i | 07:50 |
| mazal | BTW , what is wordpress ? | 07:52 |
| Kilos | but it is really worth looking at | 07:53 |
| Padroni | It's ablogging platform | 07:53 |
| Padroni | but you can use it to create website too | 07:53 |
| Kilos | a blog place i think | 07:53 |
| Padroni | no | 07:53 |
| mazal | ah | 07:53 |
| Padroni | you get wordpress.com | 07:53 |
| Padroni | which is a online blog website | 07:53 |
| Padroni | and you get wordpress.org | 07:53 |
| Padroni | where you can download the script for use on either localhost via Wamp / Mamp or on your domain | 07:53 |
| Padroni | about 20-25% of all sites are based on Wordpress | 07:54 |
| Padroni | and that is A LOT of sites | 07:54 |
| Padroni | The good thing of Wordpress is anyone can make a site - no coding experience needed. | 07:55 |
| Padroni | The bad thing of Wordpress is anyone can make a site - no coding experience needed. | 07:55 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:55 |
| mazal | Kilos: My opinion on tools , and I know I am going to get hammered by the pro's now , it's not the 80's anymore. Standard users such as myself want GUI tools to do the job. We don't have the skill to code | 07:55 |
| Kilos | i gave up with wordpress | 07:55 |
| mazal | nor the time | 07:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:56 |
| Padroni | I have no issue with GUI | 07:56 |
| Padroni | I can code a site in Notepad if needed | 07:56 |
| Padroni | But I prefer Dreamweaver | 07:56 |
| mazal | And too be honest that is one thing holding linux back | 07:56 |
| Padroni | no Dreamweaver? | 07:56 |
| mazal | Padroni: The lack of proper gui tools for some tasks | 07:57 |
| mazal | It frustrates the normal user | 07:57 |
| Padroni | I agree | 07:57 |
| Padroni | but it kinda makes linux more exclusive? | 07:57 |
| Padroni | 1/2 of what attracts me to linux is the terminal | 07:57 |
| mazal | Yeah , but remember I am talking about the normal average user who never even seen DOS | 07:58 |
| mazal | If linux want to gain ground in the average user base , it needs to look more and user friendly interfaces. Don't get me wrong , it has come a LONG way. But it ain't there yet | 07:59 |
| Kilos | thats why we are here | 08:00 |
| Kilos | to help those that dont understand | 08:00 |
| Padroni | I want to get my kids on to Ubuntu | 08:01 |
| Padroni | while they are young | 08:01 |
| Kilos | good | 08:01 |
| Kilos | the pro and fly have done that too | 08:01 |
| Padroni | I need to get them interested in programming first | 08:01 |
| Padroni | I want them each to know at least one language by the time they leave school | 08:02 |
| Padroni | but how? | 08:02 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:02 |
| Padroni | how to you get them into it? | 08:02 |
| Kilos | carefully | 08:02 |
| Padroni | If I had my way, they would be taking Python lessons by now | 08:02 |
| mazal | I should have done that when I had the chance. Today I pitty that I didn't | 08:02 |
| mazal | Study programming I mean | 08:03 |
| Kilos | haha mazal you okes always tell me its never too late to learn | 08:03 |
| mazal | Fr me it is Kilos: I am so sick and tired of pc's I don't even want to be around one anymore | 08:03 |
| mazal | I don't even want to learn anything new anymore | 08:04 |
| Kilos | oh my | 08:04 |
| mazal | The frustration is beyond words | 08:04 |
| mazal | Padroni: Do they like gaming ? | 08:05 |
| mazal | Your kids | 08:05 |
| Padroni | yes | 08:05 |
| Padroni | they play these 'dress up' games they find on the net | 08:05 |
| mazal | How about trying to get them into writing mods | 08:05 |
| Padroni | (they are two girls, 8 & 10 years old) | 08:05 |
| mazal | Start with something fun related like that , maybe they see hey this is cool | 08:05 |
| Padroni | I used to take away their laptops as punishment when they needed punish | 08:05 |
| Padroni | they just go to their room and Youtube from their damn phones | 08:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:06 |
| Padroni | which defeats the object | 08:06 |
| Padroni | So I stopped taking away devices | 08:06 |
| Padroni | I take away the chargers instead | 08:06 |
| Padroni | and watch them manage that battery life for a couple of days... | 08:06 |
| mazal | Take away the phone charger and see how they slowly watch in ago as the cellphone dies | 08:06 |
| Padroni | #sadistic | 08:06 |
| mazal | snap !!! | 08:06 |
| Padroni | hehe | 08:07 |
| Padroni | Parenting: who says it has to be hard... | 08:07 |
| SDCDev | hey Kilos | 08:18 |
| Mopkop | Hello... | 08:35 |
| Kilos | hi Mopkop | 08:35 |
| Kilos | you well lad? | 08:36 |
| Mopkop | Yes, thank you! Installed steam yesterday, it works well. And you? | 08:37 |
| Kilos | im good ty | 08:37 |
| Kilos | magellanic cremora | 09:11 |
| magellanic | Maaz: coffee! | 09:11 |
| Maaz | magellanic: coffee is liquid code | 09:11 |
| magellanic | Maaz: make coffee for Kilos | 09:11 |
| Maaz | magellanic: Huh? | 09:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:11 |
| Kilos | cremora minora is a greeting | 09:12 |
| Kilos | but i will say hi magellanic too | 09:12 |
| magellanic | oh! | 09:12 |
| magellanic | hehe | 09:12 |
| magellanic | hi | 09:12 |
| Kilos | its afrikaans for good morning sirs | 09:13 |
| magellanic | it is? I'm used to hearing "goeie more" or just "more" | 09:13 |
| Kilos | oh | 09:13 |
| Kilos | maybe i heard wrong | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i check google translate | 09:14 |
| magellanic | or you're right, and my afk is limited... | 09:15 |
| Kilos | goeie more menere | 09:15 |
| Kilos | sounds like cremora minora | 09:15 |
| magellanic | lol | 09:15 |
| magellanic | is ThatGraemeGuy around | 09:16 |
| Kilos | not yet | 09:17 |
| Kilos | still afk | 09:17 |
| magellanic | okay thanks | 09:17 |
| Kilos | np | 09:17 |
| Kilos | Padroni you sick? | 09:31 |
| Kilos | or working for a change | 09:31 |
| Padroni | eish | 09:31 |
| Padroni | such hate so early on a Friday | 09:31 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:31 |
| Kilos | oh its friday | 09:32 |
| Kilos | hello Padroni have a lovely day | 09:32 |
| Padroni | lol | 10:11 |
| Padroni | sorry | 10:11 |
| Padroni | been busy with work | 10:11 |
| Padroni | so much work | 10:11 |
| Padroni | it is interfering with my 'office-hours' gaming sessions | 10:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:12 |
| Padroni | FNG's | 10:32 |
| Padroni | they will be the death of me yet | 10:32 |
| Kilos | grin and bare it | 10:48 |
| magespawn | good afternoon | 11:08 |
| magespawn | has any one come up against cryptowall ransom ware before? | 11:09 |
| Padroni | no | 11:15 |
| Padroni | thankfully not | 11:15 |
| Padroni | I know about it though | 11:15 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 11:16 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos Padroni | 11:18 |
| Mopkop | Hello magespawn! I've heard about it too, but never had it. | 11:19 |
| magespawn | busy trying to clean a laptop now, looks like it encrypts the files using RSA-2048 public/private key encryption | 11:20 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:20 |
| magespawn | then send the private key off the pc | 11:20 |
| magellanic | this affects linux? | 11:21 |
| Kilos | win peeps i think | 11:21 |
| Kilos | comes via emails or so | 11:21 |
| Kilos | somewhere i read about something like that | 11:21 |
| magespawn | no magellanic, windows of course, and yes it came in through a pdf attachment to an email | 11:22 |
| magellanic | okay cool | 11:22 |
| Kilos | magellanic there might be something online about how to kill it | 11:22 |
| magellanic | if it affects win, it doesn't affect me ;) | 11:23 |
| Kilos | i dont remember where i found the story, might have been a link i clicked somewhere | 11:23 |
| Padroni | did you Google for removal yet? | 11:23 |
| Padroni | or do you need help? | 11:23 |
| magespawn | yes i did, will let you know the outcome | 11:23 |
| magespawn | looks like removal is fairly standard, but you cannot decrypt the files without the private key, which they will only give you after you pay $500 in bitcoin | 11:25 |
| Kilos | hehe i know what a would do | 11:26 |
| Mopkop | I guess there is no hope in bruteforcing a 2048-bit key? | 11:26 |
| Kilos | fdisk, format reinstall | 11:26 |
| Padroni | https://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?/topic/150193-removal-instructions-for-cryptowall/ | 11:27 |
| magespawn | Mopkop: no really no | 11:27 |
| magespawn | thanks Padroni | 11:28 |
| Padroni | removal is easy | 11:30 |
| Padroni | decrypting is next to impossible though | 11:30 |
| magespawn | yup there are recent backups though | 11:30 |
| Kilos | good luck magespawn | 11:30 |
| magespawn | thanks | 11:37 |
| Symmetria | damn | 11:45 |
| Symmetria | I've seen some nasty malware crap in my life | 11:45 |
| Symmetria | but on this box that had been compromised, I found some really nasty shit | 11:46 |
| Symmetria | took me almost 2 hours to figure out how to shut it down | 11:46 |
| magespawn | Symmetria: have you seen Cryptowall? | 11:49 |
| Padroni | busy watching Ridiculousness on Youtube | 11:52 |
| Padroni | crazy stuff | 11:52 |
| === magespaw1 is now known as magespawn | ||
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:03 |
| mazal | Ja nee | 12:09 |
| Trixar_za | http://www.xkcd.com/ - RIP Terry Pratchett | 12:27 |
| Trixar_za | I think that's a very good comic about it | 12:27 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , have a good weekend , God bless | 12:43 |
| magellanic | anyone using openstack, if so which provider, are there local openstack providers? | 13:11 |
| magellanic | didn't realize ibm is also an openstack provider: http://open.ibmcloud.com/documentation/icos-documentation.html | 13:12 |
| andrewlsd | there will shortly be a local openstack provider c/o LSD. | 13:19 |
| andrewlsd | about a month away. | 13:19 |
| andrewlsd | as in, commercial openstack service. | 13:19 |
| Kilos | hi andrewlsd | 13:19 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos | 13:20 |
| andrewlsd | btw, at the moment IS offers an openstack-based service but it isn't advertised as OpenStack. | 13:20 |
| andrewlsd | ... it's their "ISignite" stuff. | 13:20 |
| andrewlsd | ... and they've had two outages this year (one due to power outage of DC). Each outage was several hours. | 13:21 |
| andrewlsd | but until the outage, everything seemed hunky-dory. (until you require support). Your Milage May Vary. | 13:22 |
| andrewlsd | [I still have a cloud VM with them. R110/month: 1GB RAM, 50GB disk. So fine for dev stuff] | 13:22 |
| magellanic | ah, interesting | 13:23 |
| andrewlsd | Magellanic, what are you wanting to do with OpenStack. | 13:23 |
| Trixar_za | Padroni: Wait... you're watching Rediculousness - a show about Youtube funny clips - on youtube... That's pretty meta :P | 13:23 |
| magellanic | I was just curious about local providers as well as what providers people choose to go with | 13:23 |
| andrewlsd | ... for "workload" type stuff it's good, but I don't recommend using it to run production long-term persistent "VMs" | 13:24 |
| andrewlsd | .. rather user oVirt/RHEV (KVM) for that | 13:24 |
| magellanic | hmm okay | 13:24 |
| andrewlsd | ... ymmv, though. | 13:24 |
| andrewlsd | AFAIK, the universities are playing with OpenStack, but not sure how it's going for them. | 13:25 |
| magellanic | yeah, openstacks goals is around long term IaaS though? not recommended due to service levels of local providers perhaps? | 13:25 |
| andrewlsd | not recommended due to rapidly-changing nature of OpenStack, and ridiculous complexity of an openstack environment. | 13:25 |
| magellanic | ah okay | 13:26 |
| andrewlsd | Software Defined everything very quickly turns into a broken-everywhere scenario | 13:26 |
| magellanic | lol | 13:26 |
| magellanic | yeah | 13:26 |
| andrewlsd | ... I am a big fan of OpenStack. but Caveat Emptor | 13:26 |
| andrewlsd | Red Hat, Suse and Canonical have very nice set up scripts if you want a DIY openstack private cloud. | 13:27 |
| andrewlsd | susestudio has a 8GB image all set up and ready to run. | 13:27 |
| magellanic | nice | 13:27 |
| andrewlsd | very | 13:28 |
| andrewlsd | OT: anyone here using glusterfs in a significant way at the moment? | 13:28 |
| magellanic | nope | 13:29 |
| andrewlsd | related to OpenStack: https://susestudio.com/a/Mrr6vv/suse-openstack-cloud-4-admin--2 | 13:29 |
| andrewlsd | Next topic: Any plans for PiDay tomorrow | 13:30 |
| andrewlsd | 3.14.... | 13:30 |
| magellanic | thanks, checking it out | 13:31 |
| magellanic | no plans here, still need to get a pi2 | 13:31 |
| magellanic | your plans? | 13:32 |
| Kilos | just verify the price for a pi2 | 13:39 |
| Kilos | is it really R365 | 13:40 |
| magellanic | andrewlsd: will buy one tomorrow, how does that sound :D | 13:40 |
| Kilos | tell me man | 13:40 |
| magellanic | Kilos: http://za.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/832-6274/ | 13:41 |
| magellanic | that's ex vat | 13:41 |
| Kilos | ty | 13:41 |
| andrewlsd | I think it ends up being almost R600 incl VAT. | 13:42 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:42 |
| andrewlsd | magellanic =1 | 13:42 |
| andrewlsd | ag. +1 | 13:42 |
| magellanic | andrewlsd: you have one? | 13:42 |
| Kilos | and then you plugin a screen and keyboard and its like a pc? | 13:42 |
| magellanic | Kilos: yes. there is one guy that brings just his pi to ctpug meetups, he borrows a screen from the venue | 13:43 |
| Kilos | maybe i must think about getting one | 13:44 |
| andrewlsd | magellanic, I have none in my possession, but I have ordered my third ;/ | 13:44 |
| magellanic | what happened to the other 2? | 13:44 |
| Kilos | sjoe where are the other 2 andrewlsd | 13:44 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:44 |
| andrewlsd | First one was given to a guy who wanted to do some education stuff. (model B), next one is with a colleague (retroPi, model B) | 13:45 |
| andrewlsd | I only had them for a couple of weeks each :-P | 13:45 |
| Kilos | oh they didnt break? | 13:45 |
| andrewlsd | nope. no issues. | 13:45 |
| Kilos | yay /me needs something like that | 13:46 |
| magellanic | I had the first pi, few weeks as well, then we moved places, and it went missing | 13:46 |
| andrewlsd | my next one will be a Pi2 | 13:46 |
| andrewlsd | ... magellanic, maybe it's in the lego toybox :-/ | 13:46 |
| Kilos | or 4g ddr3 and a 2+1 data bundle | 13:47 |
| andrewlsd | (I made a lego box for my first Pi) | 13:47 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:47 |
| Kilos | someone told w | 13:47 |
| magellanic | yeah there are lots of cool covers for it too | 13:47 |
| Kilos | me 2 weeks ago they come in a case already | 13:47 |
| magellanic | they do, but you can buy your own better one | 13:48 |
| Kilos | ah | 13:48 |
| andrewlsd | ... or build it. | 13:48 |
| Kilos | nono | 13:48 |
| Kilos | tired now | 13:48 |
| andrewlsd | Cheers peeps. am off now for a bit | 13:51 |
| Padroni | I am off too. | 14:20 |
| Padroni | Have a good weekend, folks | 14:20 |
| Kilos | you too old man | 14:20 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:21 |
| Squirm | Hello | 14:50 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 14:50 |
| Squirm | Flying to Durban tonight | 14:51 |
| Kilos | lekker | 14:52 |
| Kilos | what you gonna do there | 14:52 |
| Squirm | Swim | 14:57 |
| Squirm | See the girlfriend | 14:57 |
| Squirm | and my parents | 14:57 |
| Kilos | nice | 14:58 |
| magellanic | pi day and you're going for a swim and social?, tsk tsk.. | 15:01 |
| magellanic | :P | 15:01 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:01 |
| Kilos | love conquers over everything | 15:02 |
| Kilos | hi kulelu88 | 15:02 |
| Kilos | we didnt see graeme today to ask him to fix you on ibit | 15:03 |
| Kilos | ai! | 15:03 |
| Kilos | minetest | 15:03 |
| Squirm | magellanic: pi day be my birthday | 15:03 |
| magellanic | oh! happy bday and enjoy the time in durbs | 15:04 |
| magellanic | forgiven for not neglecting the pi :p | 15:05 |
| magellanic | s/not// | 15:05 |
| Kilos | happy birthday Squirm y for tomorrow | 15:06 |
| Kilos | almost 30 | 15:06 |
| Squirm | Kilos: still far away | 15:06 |
| Kilos | only 6 years isnt it | 15:06 |
| Squirm | Yeah, that's quite far still | 15:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:06 |
| kulelu88 | hello folks | 15:09 |
| kulelu88 | Squirm is younger than me :O | 15:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:10 |
| Kilos | never mind | 15:10 |
| Squirm | lol kulelu88 | 15:15 |
| Squirm | My flight's only at 19h30 though | 15:17 |
| Squirm | Meh | 15:17 |
| Kilos | dont you have to be there 2 hours early | 15:18 |
| Squirm | 1 | 15:18 |
| Kilos | ah | 15:18 |
| Squirm | Generally I get there 30min before :/ | 15:18 |
| kulelu88 | whoa | 15:18 |
| Squirm | Its always a rush for me | 15:18 |
| kulelu88 | oom I think your login broke my connection :D | 15:19 |
| Kilos | what happened kulelu88 | 15:19 |
| Kilos | oh my | 15:19 |
| Kilos | how can that be | 15:19 |
| kulelu88 | no idea. I was spawned in no-mans land | 15:19 |
| Kilos | hmm... maybe one can build a pi into a lappy thats m/board is dead | 15:29 |
| barrydk | Evening all | 17:00 |
| Kilos | hi barrydk | 17:01 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 17:01 |
| Kilos | :p | 18:11 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 18:15 |
| Kilos | did you get sorted with that malware thing | 18:15 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 18:15 |
| magespawn | yes it is removed, going to see what i can do about restoring the files | 18:16 |
| Kilos | cool | 18:16 |
| magespawn | still some work ahead of me | 18:28 |
| Kilos | ai! tell them to dump ms stuff man | 18:29 |
| Kilos | oh maybe then you wont have work to do anymore | 18:29 |
| magespawn | less work | 18:30 |
| Kilos | ya play games most of the time | 18:30 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 18:31 |
| magespawn | besides linux has its problems too, and if it was as widespread as windows there probably would as much malware for it | 18:31 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:31 |
| Kilos | i dont have probs i use kde | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:32 |
| Kilos | but i also dont do stuff others do | 18:33 |
| superfly | magespawn: nope, that "there'd be more viruses if it was used more" is a myth | 18:34 |
| magespawn | i am not saying they would be successful, just that there would be more attempts | 18:34 |
| magespawn | also i think the general nature of linux users means that some, maybe most, are more aware than your average win user, but i could be wrong there | 18:38 |
| inetpro | magespawn: no | 18:58 |
| inetpro | it's designed differently altogether | 18:59 |
| Kilos | hello pro | 18:59 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:59 |
| superfly | magespawn: first, they've had to make you chmod a+x the file, then they've have to get you to either run the file as root, or use sudo. | 19:02 |
| kulelu88 | Where is ThatGraemeGuy | 19:05 |
| Kilos | he has no adsl at home so he stays oofline till he gets back to work | 19:06 |
| kulelu88 | does anybody have him on bbm/whatsapp? | 19:06 |
| Kilos | they stole the cables there again | 19:06 |
| magespawn | and if your main user is root? | 19:06 |
| Kilos | you lost me now mage | 19:08 |
| Kilos | spawn too | 19:08 |
| Kilos | you mean the admin guy? | 19:09 |
| magespawn | with ubuntu the default user is non root, that is why the sudo password, on some distributions the default is root | 19:09 |
| Kilos | yes | 19:09 |
| magespawn | granted most people who use those would know not to leave it that way | 19:09 |
| Kilos | oh my | 19:09 |
| kulelu88 | linux isn't as safe we'd like to believe. Consider all the flaws and loopholes in open source code that runs on linux servers, cause those run on desktops too | 19:10 |
| magespawn | but when i first started where i work now the asterisk was running as the root user on the centos | 19:11 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:12 |
| Kilos | you sure that was a mistake by the last guy? | 19:12 |
| magespawn | specifically against the recommended best practices | 19:12 |
| magespawn | i think, that if you read both the centos and asterisk setup guides they warn against that kind of setup | 19:13 |
| Kilos | one would hope so ya | 19:14 |
| magespawn | although i could be wrong about the centos, it has been awhile since i read it | 19:14 |
| Kilos | only the admin guy should be able to run as root | 19:14 |
| Kilos | imo anyway | 19:14 |
| kulelu88 | under all conditions, most distributions will tell you not to run as root on a production server | 19:16 |
| magespawn | indeed kulelu88, as far as i know they all do, but some do not enforce it, they leave it up to the choice of the user | 19:18 |
| magespawn | but anyways | 19:19 |
| kulelu88 | how would a distro enforce it? | 19:22 |
| magespawn | make the default install non root | 19:23 |
| superfly | kulelu88: I never said it's "safe" I just said that getting malware to run on Linux is more difficult than on Windows | 19:27 |
| superfly | BTW, anyone else having Internet speed issues at the moment? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | dont think so fly | 19:29 |
| Kilos | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4211879602 | 19:31 |
| inetpro | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4211893543 | 19:38 |
| Kilos | holy smoke inetpro no wonder you are always short on data | 19:40 |
| * Kilos jealous | 19:42 | |
| magespawn | nice one | 19:43 |
| inetpro | just the upload speed is a bit slow | 19:45 |
| Kilos | how do you manage that speed | 19:45 |
| Kilos | is my modem too slow | 19:45 |
| inetpro | block youtube | 19:46 |
| Kilos | huh? | 19:46 |
| inetpro | at this speed youtube is very tempting | 19:46 |
| Kilos | i8 never go there anyway but how do you manage to achieve that speed | 19:47 |
| inetpro | uh, that's not even fast man | 19:47 |
| magespawn | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4211914844 | 19:47 |
| inetpro | the router can go 50Mbps, I think | 19:48 |
| Kilos | 4+ times faster than mine so explain dont give unrelevant info | 19:48 |
| inetpro | it's LTE | 19:48 |
| Kilos | so its my modem? | 19:48 |
| Kilos | my tower shows 4g | 19:48 |
| inetpro | obviously you need a LTE router for LTE speeds | 19:49 |
| Kilos | ai! obviously | 19:49 |
| Kilos | i dont want a router | 19:49 |
| Kilos | maybe the later modem will do it | 19:49 |
| Kilos | routers are just more gray hairs | 19:50 |
| Kilos | in my beard | 19:50 |
| Kilos | aw modems only go to 21.6mb/s | 19:54 |
| Kilos | ah magellanic | 20:01 |
| magellanic | heya | 20:01 |
| magespawn | hi magellanic | 20:01 |
| magellanic | hey magespawn | 20:02 |
| superfly | hey, no one would know how to fix their car if it weren't for YouTube! don't block it | 20:05 |
| superfly | wow, inetpro, how do you get that speed? | 20:05 |
| magellanic | who's blocking YouTube? | 20:06 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:06 |
| Kilos | he has a fancy modem methinks superfly | 20:06 |
| Kilos | they seem rather pricey though | 20:07 |
| superfly | Kilos: oh, is he on HSDPA? | 20:07 |
| kulelu88 | there's some guy here who came to show us his 500MB speeds in Kenya | 20:07 |
| Kilos | i think lte | 20:07 |
| superfly | kulelu88: that would be Symmetria | 20:07 |
| Kilos | mobile broadband lte | 20:07 |
| magellanic | what speed does inetpro get? | 20:09 |
| kulelu88 | we'll only see fibre in 10+ years in Pretoria | 20:09 |
| Kilos | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4211893543 | 20:09 |
| magellanic | 22Mbps, nice | 20:10 |
| Kilos | yeah very | 20:10 |
| magellanic | I was thinking about getting those afrihost mobile month to month things | 20:11 |
| Kilos | inetpro you got a Huawei E3276 LTE | 20:13 |
| Kilos | ? | 20:13 |
| magespawn | good night all | 20:14 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:22 |
| kulelu88 | me too magellanic | 20:23 |
| kulelu88 | loadshedding plus telkoms degraded network put connections at risk | 20:23 |
| kulelu88 | R79 for 2 gigs | 20:24 |
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