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sgclarkback and sure Riddell I can look @ kf500:01
soee__:)00:03
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ahoneybunstill have no idea why it is not showing up in khelpcenter00:54
ahoneybunWell something broke for sure01:31
ahoneybunPlasma-shell is not starting 01:31
ahoneybunNow im missing plasma-desktop?01:33
sgclarkahoneybun: huh?01:37
ahoneybunIdk what happend01:37
sgclarkI did not steal thy plasma-desktop!01:37
ahoneybunPlasma shell crashed so i restarted and not i nothinf but a black screen with the mouse01:38
sgclarkare you using ci or something?01:38
ahoneybunIm in the tty right now01:38
ahoneybunI did not update or anything01:39
ahoneybunI did now thinking it might fix it01:39
ahoneybunBut nope01:39
sgclarktry systemctl start sddm01:40
ahoneybunAuthentication complete01:41
ahoneybunStill black screen in tty01:41
ahoneybunWow01:41
ahoneybunGot to login in... To a black screen01:42
ahoneybunWith the mouse01:42
sgclarkare you on vivid?01:42
ahoneybunYep01:42
ahoneybunBeen01:42
sgclarktry sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop01:42
sgclarkmaybe a depend got borked or something...01:43
ahoneybunIt seems to have removed that01:43
ahoneybunInstalled01:43
ahoneybunRebooting01:44
ahoneybunAmarok and kwallet start XD01:46
ahoneybunNothing else 01:46
ahoneybunI type plasma-desktop and it says it is not installed01:48
ahoneybunBut when i try ti install it says it is installed01:48
sgclarkahoneybun: I really don't know. You aren't like on the daily ci or something?01:49
ahoneybunNope beta 101:49
ahoneybunHold up kubuntu-desktop pulled im a few updates01:50
* ahoneybun downloads another beta 1 image01:52
ScottKsgclark: Get the seed situation figured out?02:14
sgclarkScottK: ack sorry no got distracted by 50 irc notification of failed builds02:19
ScottKOK.02:19
sgclarkScottK: I will email you when I get that sorted. THanks for your help02:20
Riddellsgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/sign.tar.gz09:29
ovidiu-florinQuintasan: ping10:07
BluesKajHey all10:10
ovidiu-florinhey BluesKaj10:10
BluesKajhey ovidiu-florin10:10
ovidiu-florinPablo: ping10:13
Pablopong10:13
ovidiu-florinThe feature page has another card on trello, made by ahoneybun10:13
ovidiu-florinhe has a link there with the new screenshots10:14
ovidiu-florinPablo: make a concept for the Feature tour page10:14
ovidiu-floringet inspiration from the current page: http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour10:14
ovidiu-florinyou can make any design you want10:20
ovidiu-florinmake it offline first, and then I'll give you a place to put it so everyone can see it and vote on it10:20
Pablook then10:21
ovidiu-florinBluesKaj: any python experience?10:23
BluesKajnope10:24
ovidiu-florinosăm (awesome)10:25
BluesKajexcept for scripts to run my TIVO a few yrs back10:25
lordievaderGood morning.10:28
ovidiu-florinlordievader: mornin'10:29
ovidiu-florinany python experience?10:29
lordievaderHey ovidiu-florin, how are you?10:30
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Lots ;)10:30
ovidiu-florinlordievader: can you give me feedback on this: https://paste.kde.org/pcv7b7xsx10:31
ovidiu-florinlordievader: last night I got a stack overflow after about an hour10:32
ovidiu-florinof running it10:32
ovidiu-florinjust crashed again10:33
ovidiu-florinafter <5 minutes of running10:34
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Do you have a traceback?10:34
ovidiu-florinhttps://paste.kde.org/pq99vtim010:34
ovidiu-florinlast relevant lines10:35
lordievaderAh, you are programming recursively...10:37
ovidiu-florinyes10:38
lordievaderThat explains the stack overflow.10:38
ovidiu-florinwhy so limited?10:38
ovidiu-florinonly 86 levels10:38
lordievaderIf you have only a couple of links it'll work, but give it a couple of thousand. And you have a huge stack.10:38
ovidiu-florinI have 8 GB of RAM10:39
ovidiu-florinit shoul dbe more than enough10:39
yofelis "lnk" really identical with "pageUrl" ?10:39
yofelotherwise isLinkStored does nothing useful10:39
ovidiu-florinyofel: it could have been previously added10:40
kfunkisLinkStored can simply be "link in lst"10:40
ovidiu-florinif I make it a set10:40
ovidiu-florinbut hten I need 2 sets, because I can't have indexes in sets10:41
ovidiu-florinto keep track of what was visited10:41
lordievaderPerhaps using more return statements and smaller functions will help.10:41
ovidiu-florinlordievader: please elaborate on that10:42
lordievaderHave a function that grabs Kubuntu urls from a give page, this function returns those urls. Small function who do just one thing. Also you probably want to work with dictionaries, that way you can create a url tree.10:43
ovidiu-florinI don't need a URL tree10:45
ovidiu-florinjust a list10:45
ovidiu-florinand then to test that each one of those is valid on the new site10:45
ovidiu-florinI fail to see how it is more usefull to separate the 2 parts into separate functions, thus increasing the complexity10:48
lordievaderActually smaller functions are easier to manage. They also make debugging easier.10:50
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Perhaps you also need to make sure that you are trying to parse files, it just tried to parse an image.10:52
yofelhm, problem seems to be that you're doing a deep search. So if page 1 has 2 links, you go into the first link, if that also has the 2nd link you will parse that there, and not on the first level10:54
yofelmy script run is at depth 350 by now...10:54
yofeland crashes at "parsing page /HardyHeron/Beta/Kubuntu / depth: 394" with a 404 error10:55
ovidiu-florinnever mind, I found http://wummel.github.io/linkchecker/ I hope it has an export function10:58
ovidiu-florinyofel: yes, that's a bug I've fixed10:59
ovidiu-florinyofel: here you go https://paste.kde.org/pz5vqfeqy10:59
yofelgotta run, sorry11:08
Quintasanovidiu-florin: pong11:54
ovidiu-florinQuintasan: still here?12:45
Quintasanyeah12:45
ovidiu-florinyour flatmate made a concept for the kubuntu site12:45
ovidiu-florinit's not online anymore12:45
ovidiu-florinI was looking at that for inspiration12:45
QuintasanI'll kick him.12:46
QuintasanWait a second.12:46
QuintasanAh damn he's not in the flat12:47
ovidiu-florinah... anyhow. I want to talk with him about designing the download page12:49
ovidiu-florinI have some requirements, maybe he has some ideas.12:50
ovidiu-florinI'm off12:50
ovidiu-florinsee you soon12:50
ahoneybunmorning13:18
ahoneybundoes anyone else have "starting version 219" on the top left of their computer when they first start up?13:20
soeeyes13:20
ahoneybunit hangs for like 2 mins I swear13:21
ahoneybunI thought it had to do with the ubuntu sdk13:21
yofelahoneybun: what does systemd-analyze tell you?13:28
yofel'systemd-analyze blame' might tell you what took so long13:29
ahoneybunyofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10596859/13:31
yofel:/13:32
ahoneybunhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10596865/13:32
yofelthat's 40s, not 2 minutes ^^13:33
soeeahoneybun: but yeah there was more lines before after plymouth, now only this one for few seconds till sddm is loaded13:33
yofelahoneybun: maybe try systemd-blame plot > /tmp/chart.svg and see when sddm starts there13:35
yofelotherwise everything looks fine..13:35
BluesKajsddm not starting at boot , have to start it from the TTY 13:35
yofelwith newest updates?13:35
BluesKajon  the laptop, boots ok on the desktop 13:36
soeeBluesKaj: some user eported the same on #kubuntu last days13:36
BluesKajyofel, yes , very latest 13:36
yofelgah, one annoying part about systemd is that I don't know where to look these days if something goes wrong *-.-13:36
BluesKajsoee, yeah , I saw that with some users, some lost their desktops etc , I just neede to restartsddm13:37
ahoneybunyea I ran startx to get a desktop13:37
soeei hope there wont be such problems after final release :/13:38
yofeldoes 'systemctl status sddm' print something interesting?13:38
yofelahoneybun: ^13:38
BluesKajsustemd to me isn't working very well, I miss startup and init, some apps need dbus-launch to start properly13:39
ahoneybunyofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10596897/13:39
soeealso check last comment here: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/bPkdrSHDS3E any of you have the same ?13:40
yofeldisabled -> what?13:40
yofelahoneybun: 'sudo systemctl enable sddm' might help...13:40
yofelor does that fail in any way?13:41
ahoneybunnope13:41
yofeldoes status now say enabled?13:42
ahoneybunyea13:42
yofelok, *should* start on boot now13:42
yofelnow... how the hell did that get disabled13:42
yofelBluesKaj: does status say disabled for you too?13:43
BluesKajyes yofel, status inactive (dead)13:45
yofelno, the Loaded line should say: loaded (...), enabled, vendor preset: enabled13:46
yofelActive says whether it's running, which shouldn't be inactive either though if you started it yourself o.O13:47
BluesKajyofel, it says sddm.service; disabled; vendor present; enabled13:48
yofelwth...13:48
yofelBluesKaj: please also run 'sudo systemctl enable sddm'13:48
BluesKajI haven't started sddm13:49
yofelah ok, then inactive is right13:49
BluesKajjust enabled sddm, it's hung up in plymouth , not doing anything13:50
BluesKajno progress dots13:50
yofelBluesKaj: please pastebin /var/log/sddm.log13:51
BluesKajsystemctl says unknown operation sddm13:52
ahoneybunI'm rebooting to see what happens brb13:53
yofeldid you forget 'enable'?13:53
BluesKajok , once I get a desktop I'll do that 13:53
BluesKajdidn't forget enable13:54
yofelstrange, "Unknown operation sddm" should only be shown if you run "systemctl sddm" or so13:55
ahoneybunyofel: started up fine13:56
ahoneybuneverything is loaded13:56
ahoneybunthough that "starting version 219" is still there13:57
BluesKajok ran enable again, startx got a desktop this time13:57
yofelahoneybun: well, that's something at least13:57
yofelthe starting version 219 would be a bug in systemd (as that's the systemd version)13:58
ahoneybunoh ok13:58
soeeahoneybun: can you file a new bug ? i can confrm than (about starting version 219)13:59
BluesKajyeah , getting version 219 here too, but have the gui sddm login after the reboot 13:59
BluesKajok , got the desktop this time ...looks like enable sddm did the trick yofel14:01
ahoneybunsoee: what would I file that under?14:12
yofelahoneybun: just do 'ubuntu-bug systemd' and make sure the bug is tagged 'systemd-boot'14:13
BluesKajstill getting 219 version here on the desktop pc, but it sddm gui loads without any problem14:14
BluesKajthe laptop which had the problem, seems fine now14:15
soeeahoneybun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+filebug14:18
ahoneybunthanks soee working on it14:20
ahoneybunsoee: yofel https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/143217114:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1432171 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Starting version 219 "systemd-boot"" [Undecided,New]14:22
yofelapport didn't work? :/14:22
ahoneybunyofel: ?14:23
yofelubuntu-bug14:23
yofelas you didn't use apport, please add the ubuntu release version and the exact systemd package version by hand to the bug description14:23
ahoneybunok14:24
ahoneybundone yofel14:26
soeeBluesKaj: can you also confirm please on bug repot page ?14:27
yofelthanks14:27
BluesKajsoee, I have issues with that stupis ubuntu one sign in page, I've tried changing my profile setings since I changed ISPs bit it insists on keeping my original email address etc which is no m.,onger valid, so I can't confirm atm14:36
BluesKajas you can tell by my spelling mistakes I'm a bit p**ed of at launchpad for tying themselves to this useles page14:37
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soeecalligra is broken in vivid ?20:55
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1432171 Has this reply: 21:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1432171 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Starting version 219 "systemd-boot"" [Undecided,Incomplete]21:12
valorieThis is not a bug; it's simply the plymooth comment due to the 'quiet splash' boot options21:12
valorieWhen these options are removed from grub, and then grub updated, that comment is replaced by the full booting process.21:12
valorieperhaps I should try updates to my old laptop and add more to that, because to me, that is still a bug21:12
soeevalorie: why ?21:24
valoriewhy is it a bug?21:36
valorieit shouldn't show at all21:36
valorieblack screen would be better21:36
valorie40 secs is a rather long startup, too21:36
soeeimo there should not be back screen at all21:37
valoriesure21:37
soeethere should be plymouth and direct transition to sddm21:37
valorieright21:37
valorieso I want to add my comments to that bug saying so21:37
soeeah ok :)21:37
valoriemy bet is that I won't be able to login with out nonsense after the updates too21:38
soeevalorie: can you check if calligra is installable for you of have deps problems ?21:55
soee*or21:56
valorieinstalling; just finished updates on that old laptop entirely without problems21:58
valorieI'm even testing muon discover to do that21:59
valoriefirst time I've used it21:59
valoriesoee: any particular part of calligra you had problems with?21:59
valorieI'm doing sheets21:59
valoriesoee: it installed fine, and opens up22:02
soeevalorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10599881/22:10
valoriehmmm, I didn't try the metapackage22:13
valoriejust sheets22:13
soeeah, ok22:13
valoriedoing that now from the cli22:13
valoriemuon discover doesn't offer the metapackage22:14
valorieit's installing fine though22:14
soeecrom cli ?22:14
soee*from22:14
valorieyes22:14
valorieit just finished22:15
soeestrange22:15
valoriesheesh, so much smaller than libreoffice22:15
valoriethis laptop has a fresh install of vivid beta, and I did updates today22:15
valoriealthough I've not restarted since22:15
soeeim also on all latets updates22:16
valorieI've commented that bug anyway, and quoted you, soee22:20
soeevalorie: ok :)22:22
ahoneybunvalorie: changed it to "confirmed"22:41
valoriethank you, ahoneybun23:08
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