[00:01] back and sure Riddell I can look @ kf5 [00:03] :) === soee__ is now known as soee [00:54] still have no idea why it is not showing up in khelpcenter [01:31] Well something broke for sure [01:31] Plasma-shell is not starting [01:33] Now im missing plasma-desktop? [01:37] ahoneybun: huh? [01:37] Idk what happend [01:37] I did not steal thy plasma-desktop! [01:38] Plasma shell crashed so i restarted and not i nothinf but a black screen with the mouse [01:38] are you using ci or something? [01:38] Im in the tty right now [01:39] I did not update or anything [01:39] I did now thinking it might fix it [01:39] But nope [01:40] try systemctl start sddm [01:41] Authentication complete [01:41] Still black screen in tty [01:41] Wow [01:42] Got to login in... To a black screen [01:42] With the mouse [01:42] are you on vivid? [01:42] Yep [01:42] Been [01:42] try sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop [01:43] maybe a depend got borked or something... [01:43] It seems to have removed that [01:43] Installed [01:44] Rebooting [01:46] Amarok and kwallet start XD [01:46] Nothing else [01:48] I type plasma-desktop and it says it is not installed [01:48] But when i try ti install it says it is installed [01:49] ahoneybun: I really don't know. You aren't like on the daily ci or something? [01:49] Nope beta 1 [01:50] Hold up kubuntu-desktop pulled im a few updates [01:52] * ahoneybun downloads another beta 1 image [02:14] sgclark: Get the seed situation figured out? [02:19] ScottK: ack sorry no got distracted by 50 irc notification of failed builds [02:19] OK. [02:20] ScottK: I will email you when I get that sorted. THanks for your help [09:29] sgclark: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/sign.tar.gz [10:07] Quintasan: ping [10:10] Hey all [10:10] hey BluesKaj [10:10] hey ovidiu-florin [10:13] Pablo: ping [10:13] pong [10:13] The feature page has another card on trello, made by ahoneybun [10:14] he has a link there with the new screenshots [10:14] Pablo: make a concept for the Feature tour page [10:14] get inspiration from the current page: http://www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour [10:20] you can make any design you want [10:20] make it offline first, and then I'll give you a place to put it so everyone can see it and vote on it [10:21] ok then [10:23] BluesKaj: any python experience? [10:24] nope [10:25] osăm (awesome) [10:25] except for scripts to run my TIVO a few yrs back [10:28] Good morning. [10:29] lordievader: mornin' [10:29] any python experience? [10:30] Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you? [10:30] ovidiu-florin: Lots ;) [10:31] lordievader: can you give me feedback on this: https://paste.kde.org/pcv7b7xsx [10:32] lordievader: last night I got a stack overflow after about an hour [10:32] of running it [10:33] just crashed again [10:34] after <5 minutes of running [10:34] ovidiu-florin: Do you have a traceback? [10:34] https://paste.kde.org/pq99vtim0 [10:35] last relevant lines [10:37] Ah, you are programming recursively... [10:38] yes [10:38] That explains the stack overflow. [10:38] why so limited? [10:38] only 86 levels [10:38] If you have only a couple of links it'll work, but give it a couple of thousand. And you have a huge stack. [10:39] I have 8 GB of RAM [10:39] it shoul dbe more than enough [10:39] is "lnk" really identical with "pageUrl" ? [10:39] otherwise isLinkStored does nothing useful [10:40] yofel: it could have been previously added [10:40] isLinkStored can simply be "link in lst" [10:40] if I make it a set [10:41] but hten I need 2 sets, because I can't have indexes in sets [10:41] to keep track of what was visited [10:41] Perhaps using more return statements and smaller functions will help. [10:42] lordievader: please elaborate on that [10:43] Have a function that grabs Kubuntu urls from a give page, this function returns those urls. Small function who do just one thing. Also you probably want to work with dictionaries, that way you can create a url tree. [10:45] I don't need a URL tree [10:45] just a list [10:45] and then to test that each one of those is valid on the new site [10:48] I fail to see how it is more usefull to separate the 2 parts into separate functions, thus increasing the complexity [10:50] Actually smaller functions are easier to manage. They also make debugging easier. [10:52] ovidiu-florin: Perhaps you also need to make sure that you are trying to parse files, it just tried to parse an image. [10:54] hm, problem seems to be that you're doing a deep search. So if page 1 has 2 links, you go into the first link, if that also has the 2nd link you will parse that there, and not on the first level [10:54] my script run is at depth 350 by now... [10:55] and crashes at "parsing page /HardyHeron/Beta/Kubuntu / depth: 394" with a 404 error [10:58] never mind, I found http://wummel.github.io/linkchecker/ I hope it has an export function [10:59] yofel: yes, that's a bug I've fixed [10:59] yofel: here you go https://paste.kde.org/pz5vqfeqy [11:08] gotta run, sorry [11:54] ovidiu-florin: pong [12:45] Quintasan: still here? [12:45] yeah [12:45] your flatmate made a concept for the kubuntu site [12:45] it's not online anymore [12:45] I was looking at that for inspiration [12:46] I'll kick him. [12:46] Wait a second. [12:47] Ah damn he's not in the flat [12:49] ah... anyhow. I want to talk with him about designing the download page [12:50] I have some requirements, maybe he has some ideas. [12:50] I'm off [12:50] see you soon [13:18] morning [13:20] does anyone else have "starting version 219" on the top left of their computer when they first start up? [13:20] yes [13:21] it hangs for like 2 mins I swear [13:21] I thought it had to do with the ubuntu sdk [13:28] ahoneybun: what does systemd-analyze tell you? [13:29] 'systemd-analyze blame' might tell you what took so long [13:31] yofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10596859/ [13:32] :/ [13:32] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10596865/ [13:33] that's 40s, not 2 minutes ^^ [13:33] ahoneybun: but yeah there was more lines before after plymouth, now only this one for few seconds till sddm is loaded [13:35] ahoneybun: maybe try systemd-blame plot > /tmp/chart.svg and see when sddm starts there [13:35] otherwise everything looks fine.. [13:35] sddm not starting at boot , have to start it from the TTY [13:35] with newest updates? [13:36] on the laptop, boots ok on the desktop [13:36] BluesKaj: some user eported the same on #kubuntu last days [13:36] yofel, yes , very latest [13:36] gah, one annoying part about systemd is that I don't know where to look these days if something goes wrong *-.- [13:37] soee, yeah , I saw that with some users, some lost their desktops etc , I just neede to restartsddm [13:37] yea I ran startx to get a desktop [13:38] i hope there wont be such problems after final release :/ [13:38] does 'systemctl status sddm' print something interesting? [13:38] ahoneybun: ^ [13:39] sustemd to me isn't working very well, I miss startup and init, some apps need dbus-launch to start properly [13:39] yofel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10596897/ [13:40] also check last comment here: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/bPkdrSHDS3E any of you have the same ? [13:40] disabled -> what? [13:40] ahoneybun: 'sudo systemctl enable sddm' might help... [13:41] or does that fail in any way? [13:41] nope [13:42] does status now say enabled? [13:42] yea [13:42] ok, *should* start on boot now [13:42] now... how the hell did that get disabled [13:43] BluesKaj: does status say disabled for you too? [13:45] yes yofel, status inactive (dead) [13:46] no, the Loaded line should say: loaded (...), enabled, vendor preset: enabled [13:47] Active says whether it's running, which shouldn't be inactive either though if you started it yourself o.O [13:48] yofel, it says sddm.service; disabled; vendor present; enabled [13:48] wth... [13:48] BluesKaj: please also run 'sudo systemctl enable sddm' [13:49] I haven't started sddm [13:49] ah ok, then inactive is right [13:50] just enabled sddm, it's hung up in plymouth , not doing anything [13:50] no progress dots [13:51] BluesKaj: please pastebin /var/log/sddm.log [13:52] systemctl says unknown operation sddm [13:53] I'm rebooting to see what happens brb [13:53] did you forget 'enable'? [13:53] ok , once I get a desktop I'll do that [13:54] didn't forget enable [13:55] strange, "Unknown operation sddm" should only be shown if you run "systemctl sddm" or so [13:56] yofel: started up fine [13:56] everything is loaded [13:57] though that "starting version 219" is still there [13:57] ok ran enable again, startx got a desktop this time [13:57] ahoneybun: well, that's something at least [13:58] the starting version 219 would be a bug in systemd (as that's the systemd version) [13:58] oh ok [13:59] ahoneybun: can you file a new bug ? i can confrm than (about starting version 219) [13:59] yeah , getting version 219 here too, but have the gui sddm login after the reboot [14:01] ok , got the desktop this time ...looks like enable sddm did the trick yofel [14:12] soee: what would I file that under? [14:13] ahoneybun: just do 'ubuntu-bug systemd' and make sure the bug is tagged 'systemd-boot' [14:14] still getting 219 version here on the desktop pc, but it sddm gui loads without any problem [14:15] the laptop which had the problem, seems fine now [14:18] ahoneybun: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+filebug [14:20] thanks soee working on it [14:22] soee: yofel https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1432171 [14:22] Launchpad bug 1432171 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Starting version 219 "systemd-boot"" [Undecided,New] [14:22] apport didn't work? :/ [14:23] yofel: ? [14:23] ubuntu-bug [14:23] as you didn't use apport, please add the ubuntu release version and the exact systemd package version by hand to the bug description [14:24] ok [14:26] done yofel [14:27] BluesKaj: can you also confirm please on bug repot page ? [14:27] thanks [14:36] soee, I have issues with that stupis ubuntu one sign in page, I've tried changing my profile setings since I changed ISPs bit it insists on keeping my original email address etc which is no m.,onger valid, so I can't confirm atm [14:37] as you can tell by my spelling mistakes I'm a bit p**ed of at launchpad for tying themselves to this useles page === soee_ is now known as soee [20:55] calligra is broken in vivid ? [21:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1432171 Has this reply: [21:12] Launchpad bug 1432171 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Starting version 219 "systemd-boot"" [Undecided,Incomplete] [21:12] This is not a bug; it's simply the plymooth comment due to the 'quiet splash' boot options [21:12] When these options are removed from grub, and then grub updated, that comment is replaced by the full booting process. [21:12] perhaps I should try updates to my old laptop and add more to that, because to me, that is still a bug [21:24] valorie: why ? [21:36] why is it a bug? [21:36] it shouldn't show at all [21:36] black screen would be better [21:36] 40 secs is a rather long startup, too [21:37] imo there should not be back screen at all [21:37] sure [21:37] there should be plymouth and direct transition to sddm [21:37] right [21:37] so I want to add my comments to that bug saying so [21:37] ah ok :) [21:38] my bet is that I won't be able to login with out nonsense after the updates too [21:55] valorie: can you check if calligra is installable for you of have deps problems ? [21:56] *or [21:58] installing; just finished updates on that old laptop entirely without problems [21:59] I'm even testing muon discover to do that [21:59] first time I've used it [21:59] soee: any particular part of calligra you had problems with? [21:59] I'm doing sheets [22:02] soee: it installed fine, and opens up [22:10] valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10599881/ [22:13] hmmm, I didn't try the metapackage [22:13] just sheets [22:13] ah, ok [22:13] doing that now from the cli [22:14] muon discover doesn't offer the metapackage [22:14] it's installing fine though [22:14] crom cli ? [22:14] *from [22:14] yes [22:15] it just finished [22:15] strange [22:15] sheesh, so much smaller than libreoffice [22:15] this laptop has a fresh install of vivid beta, and I did updates today [22:15] although I've not restarted since [22:16] im also on all latets updates [22:20] I've commented that bug anyway, and quoted you, soee [22:22] valorie: ok :) [22:41] valorie: changed it to "confirmed" [23:08] thank you, ahoneybun === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh