[06:01] <parsnip> any ideas on when plasma 5 kubuntu will be somewhat reliable? i tried it about a month ago and had trouble. won't install on virtual box either.
[06:08] <valorie> I'm using it exclusively for this past week, parsnip
[06:08] <valorie> well, vivid beta
[06:08] <valorie> don't try 14.10 + next, as that is now deprecated
[06:24] <parsnip> thanks valorie , will try it out
[09:16] <afteoyo> MoonUnit`, Kaliraa hello
[09:16] <MoonUnit`> hello
[09:17] <afteoyo> do I report my bug to launchpad?
[09:17] <afteoyo> I have no idea if this a kde, plasma, ubuntu base, kubuntu or wahtever bug
[09:18] <MoonUnit`> hah, yeah i have that problem a lot, knowing what part to file the bug under is a pain on opensource
[09:19] <afteoyo_> I will try your fix
[09:19] <afteoyo_> of renaming the folder
[09:20] <afteoyo_> so this would work?
[09:20] <afteoyo_> mv .kde .kde2
[09:20] <MoonUnit`> when i was testing vivid in a qemu vm i had the problem of loging into a black screen a lot, hasn't happend on my desktop yet though.
[09:21] <MoonUnit`> yes
[09:21] <afteoyo_> Okay, brb, going to try that
[09:35] <afteoyo> so that did not work
[09:35] <afteoyo> Still black
[09:35] <afteoyo> but it did create those folders again
[09:36] <MoonUnit`> :(
[09:37] <afteoyo> Yeah
[09:37] <afteoyo> I simply do not have the know how of how to fix this
[09:37] <afteoyo> weird thing is that the desktop grid still works
[09:37] <afteoyo> even though it is all black
[09:37] <afteoyo> I still see the icons to add a new workspace
[09:39] <MoonUnit`> did you try moving .local too?
[09:40] <afteoyo> yeah
[09:41] <afteoyo> I think i will just install 14.04 or 14.10
[09:47] <afteoyo> wtf
[09:47] <afteoyo> my usb is now only 2mb large
[09:47] <afteoyo> instead of 16gb
[09:48] <afteoyo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/289971/usbs-storage-capacity-reduced-to-2-mb-from-16-gb
[09:48] <afteoyo> Looks like someone else had the same problem :D
[09:50] <lordievader> afteoyo: What does parted say about the stick?
[09:50] <afteoyo> I am in my windows parition atm
[09:50] <afteoyo> so I just used the fix in the link I posted
[09:50] <lordievader> Likely just a filesystem being 2mb.
[09:50] <afteoyo> already done
[09:51] <afteoyo> lordievader, yeah that was the case
[09:51] <afteoyo> I guess dd did that
[09:51] <lordievader> Meh, if that is all...
[10:10] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:12] <afteoyo> hi
[10:13] <afteoyo> I have broken my Kubuntu 15.04 install BluesKaj :(
[10:15] <BluesKaj> broken , afteoyo, how?
[10:15] <afteoyo> plasmashell is gone
[10:15] <afteoyo> I log in
[10:15] <afteoyo> black desktop
[10:15] <afteoyo> no launcher background, taskbar
[10:16] <afteoyo> krunnner is still there, but I can only type text in, it doesn't actually search or run anything
[10:16] <JunkHunk> hello where can I find this in kubuntu? : http://www.leaseweblabs.com/2014/06/disable-spyware-ubuntu-14-04/
[10:17] <afteoyo> JunkHunk, IIRC only ubuntu unity is blessed with that
[10:18] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F1 - F6 for aa VTT/TY login, then update and upgrade. then run sudo service sddm restart
[10:19] <afteoyo> okay, let me try
[10:19] <afteoyo> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:19] <JunkHunk> blessed with the surveilance or the switcher?
[10:19] <afteoyo> sudo service sddm restart
[10:19] <afteoyo> those?
[10:20] <afteoyo> JunkHunk neither, I was being sarcastic
[10:20] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, ask in #ubuntu chat , this is kubuntu support
[10:21] <JunkHunk> thats why I am asking here
[10:21] <afteoyo> Kubuntu doesn't have it IIRC
[10:21] <JunkHunk> I use kubuntu and wanted to know whether it has the same politic or not
[10:22] <JunkHunk> IIRC stands for?
[10:22] <JunkHunk> is kubuntu an ubuntu fork?
[10:22] <JunkHunk> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
[10:22] <BluesKaj> after you drop to vt/tty as described above, and do an update and upgrade, then run the sddm command
[10:22] <JunkHunk> I ve been reading richard stallman
[10:24] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, not a fork. it use the same core and hernel, but the kDE desktop
[10:24] <BluesKaj> err kernel
[10:24] <JunkHunk> so no default spyware?
[10:27] <BluesKaj> no , Unity desktop is accused of that , but not KDE
[10:27] <BluesKaj> !Blue Systems
[10:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:28] <MoonUnit`> morning
[10:29] <BluesKaj> JunkHunk, , Kubuntu is not longer supported by Canonical,. isupport has moved to a differnt company known as Blue Systems
[10:29] <JunkHunk> wow thats new for me
[10:29] <JunkHunk> thanks
[10:29] <BluesKaj> morning lordievader, MoonUnit`
[10:29] <JunkHunk> err...are those good or bad news?
[10:30] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj, how are you?
[10:30] <lordievader> Hey MoonUnit`, how are you doing?
[10:30] <BluesKaj> mostly good as far Kubuntu users are concerned
[10:30] <BluesKaj> fine here lordievader, and you?
[10:31] <lordievader> Doing good, here too.
[10:31] <MoonUnit`> lordievader: fine thanks
[10:31] <JunkHunk> hey I am good too
[10:31] <JunkHunk> a bit paranoid but good
[10:31] <JunkHunk> yesterday I installed nagios on this kubuntu I am using...
[10:32] <JunkHunk> its a nice tool
[10:32] <JunkHunk> do you know some enhancing I should add?
[10:32] <JunkHunk> the free version is kind of poor
[10:32] <JunkHunk> I searched the web and found OPSVIEW
[10:32] <lordievader> JunkHunk: Check out Zabbix ;)
[10:33] <JunkHunk> what about that?
[10:33] <JunkHunk> Zabbix okay looking
[10:34] <lordievader> JunkHunk: I like it better than Nagios.
[10:34] <JunkHunk> cool
[10:39] <JunkHunk> what about OPSVIEW
[10:41] <JunkHunk> I only have three computers but I like testing servers...
[10:41] <JunkHunk> and I am planning to build my own dedicated server at home
[10:41] <JunkHunk> with the new funny nano tech devices in the market...
[10:42] <JunkHunk> cubieboard and raspberry pi
[10:42] <JunkHunk> that is why I was searching for a nice monitoring service on the internet
[10:44] <JunkHunk> what else should I need to keep this kind of server up and running flawlessly?
[10:44] <lordievader> You want to use the RPi as a server? What are you planning to run on it?
[10:44] <JunkHunk> oh a lot of things
[10:45] <lordievader> Such as?
[10:45] <JunkHunk> a web server... a samba4 server a mail server, a dns server...opensim and minecraft servers aswell and a nas server
[10:46] <JunkHunk> using vlans I would keep some services far from the others
[10:47] <MoonUnit`> i find the fun with servers begins when you're dealing with mysql
[10:48] <lordievader> Right... on a Pi?
[10:48] <MoonUnit`> on anything
[10:49] <JunkHunk> a pi maybe a bit short
[10:49] <lordievader> The point I am trying to make, get something better than a Pi.
[10:49] <JunkHunk> I think the cubieboard 4 would do best
[10:49] <JunkHunk> more cores
[10:49] <JunkHunk> and memory
[10:49] <lordievader> A Pi is fun for something low powered. But if you want a server that allows you do actually learn a lot of things you'll find the Pi to be limited.
[10:50] <JunkHunk> http://cubieboard.org/model/cb4/
[10:53] <JunkHunk> see you folks
[10:53] <lordievader> What a horrible website.
[11:08] <aftereyo> Hey
[11:08] <aftereyo> I am in my Kubun 15.04 install
[11:08] <aftereyo> I logged in using the fallback instead of plasma
[11:08] <aftereyo> I am still not able to log in with plasma
[11:09] <aftereyo> I tried your commands BluesKaj but it did not work
[11:10] <aftereyo> terminals on f1-f4 are useless
[11:10] <aftereyo> I tried to startx in them
[11:10] <aftereyo> but only got a black screen
[11:11] <aftereyo> can I reset those terminals
[11:11] <lordievader> aftereyo: Anything in your xsession log?
[11:11] <aftereyo> how do I chekc that?
[11:12] <aftereyo> Also The failsafe kinda sucks
[11:12] <aftereyo> I cannot alt tab
[11:12] <lordievader> aftereyo: less ~/.xsession-errors
[11:12] <aftereyo> SO I only have this konversation window open
[11:12] <aftereyo> is there a way to execute commands form konversation?
[11:12] <lordievader> Err, no idea.
[11:13] <aftereyo> /exec is broken
[11:13] <aftereyo> I can only use one gui app at a time
[11:13] <aftereyo> Imma check the ~/.xsession-errors folder
[11:13] <lordievader> Ssh?
[11:14] <aftereyo> lordievader: ? I am not in a server
[11:14] <aftereyo> this is my laptop
[11:14] <aftereyo> 15.04
[11:14] <aftereyo> KDE
[11:14] <MoonUnit`> wonder if it's worth creating another user then try to login to plasma with that, rule out anything in your home folder.
[11:14] <aftereyo> how can I do that?
[11:15] <aftereyo> !adduser
[11:15] <aftereyo> Welp
[11:16] <aftereyo> I cannot open a browser either
[11:16] <lordievader> aftereyo: So? You probably already have the ssh daemon installed.
[11:16] <MoonUnit`> i tend to add blackbox aswell very light wm, you can choose it from the login screen.
[11:19] <aftereyo> Okay I added a new user
[11:19] <aftereyo> now how do I log out of my KDE session?
[11:20] <aftereyo> !logout
[11:20] <MoonUnit`> logging out is broken for me
[11:20] <aftereyo> hmm
[11:20] <aftereyo> me too actuall
[11:20] <aftereyo> yI only get a black screen
[11:20] <MoonUnit`> sudo systemctl restart sddm, will restart it
[11:20] <aftereyo> brb
[11:22] <afteyo> okay so this new user "kim" works fine
[11:22] <afteyo> I have plasma desktop
[11:24] <MoonUnit`> wonder if moving .cache would do anything.
[11:25] <afteyo> last thing i did was to uninstall openjdk and replace it with java 8
[11:25] <afteyo> could that have been it?
[11:26] <afteyo> kim is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:26] <MoonUnit`> wouldn't think so
[11:26] <afteyo> lol
[11:30] <aftereyo> so renaming .cache kinda worked
[11:30] <aftereyo> I have everythign back except the task bar and launcher
[11:30] <aftereyo> krunner works though as does the desktop
[11:30] <aftereyo> I set my taskbar to autohide, maybe that had soemthign to do with it
[11:31] <aftereyo> is there a way I can set the task bar to be always visivle withough havin ght taskbar?
[11:32] <aftereyo> Update, I added a launcher to desktop and that launcher works, taskbar is still gone
[11:33] <aftereyo> any ideas on how I could get the taskbar back?
[11:34] <MoonUnit`> i'd try moving .kde .local and .cache again and rebooting.
[11:34] <aftereyo> okay, I will do that
[11:34] <aftereyo> update: I right clicked on desktop -> add panel -> defualt panel
[11:34] <aftereyo> everythign seems to be fine
[11:34] <MoonUnit`> \o/
[11:35] <aftereyo> Should I rename .cache .kde .local and reboot?
[11:35] <MoonUnit`> is everything working again?
[11:35] <aftereyo> yeah
[11:35] <aftereyo> atm
[11:35] <MoonUnit`> leave it then
[11:36] <aftereyo> okay
[11:36] <aftereyo> should I reboot just to see if it will work on reboot?
[11:36] <MoonUnit`> can do
[11:36] <aftereyo> okay, will do
[11:36] <aftereyo> brb
[11:40] <aftereyo> still works :D
[11:41] <aftereyo> MoonUnit`: you are a genius
[11:41] <aftereyo> Just as I was about to reinstall 14.10
[11:42] <MoonUnit`> np, it's all the stuff i learnt when kde broke on me too.
[11:42] <aftereyo> There was another guy who had the same problem
[11:43] <aftereyo> do you have his name?
[11:43] <MoonUnit`> no
[11:43] <aftereyo> was it Kaliraa
[11:43] <aftereyo> ?
[11:44] <aftereyo> I think it might have been
[11:44] <aftereyo> my log is is on windows
[11:48] <aftereyo> well Kaliraaif it was you the fix it to rename .kde .local .cache to somethign else
[11:54] <MoonUnit`> depending on what prgrams you use you might need to copy some folders back from the renamed .local, steam uses .local to hold game files etc..
[11:55] <aftereyo> i do not use steam
[16:31] <Guest67905> bonjour
[16:31] <aftereyo> merci
[16:31] <Guest67905> qui serait me dire comment changer son pseudo svp ?
[16:33] <aftereyo> bein sure mon amie
[16:33] <aftereyo> avec le chein
[16:33] <aftereyo> sur la boulangerie
[16:41] <BluesKaj> Guest86031, parle anglais ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> oops ")
[16:42] <aftereyo> I do not speak french btw
[16:42] <BluesKaj> too many guests ,, pls choose nick you people
[16:42] <BluesKaj> aftereyo, no kidding
[16:43] <BluesKaj> the guy wanted to change his nick
[16:44] <BluesKaj> my french is a bit rusty , but I'm pretty sure that's what he meant
[16:47] <aftereyo> yes he did
[16:47] <aftereyo> did he leave??
[16:51] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:52] <atod77> Hi I'm using Kubuntu 14.10
[16:52] <atod77> when I restart my PC after some time
[16:52] <aftereyo> I am using Kubuntu 15.04
[16:53] <atod77> the CPU is consumed almost to 100% by the plasma processes
[16:54] <aftereyo> Have you tried killing it with fire?
[16:54] <atod77> and the PC is unusable. can you advice how to recognize the problem?
[16:54] <atod77> yes
[16:54] <BluesKaj> atod77, have you updated/upgraded lately?
[16:55] <atod77> I updated from previous version before mount I think
[16:55] <BluesKaj> atod77, no I mean the packages notn the OS
[16:57] <BluesKaj> atod77, open a terminal and do : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:57] <atod77> BluesKaj, ok
[17:00] <atod77> BluesKaj, Thank you! It is upgrading the kernel 3.16.0.31  and Chrome. Do you expect that it will fix the problem?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> atod77,, once that's finished , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:03] <atod77> BluesKaj, after the kernel update do you expect me to restart the PC before I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:03] <BluesKaj> upating and upgrading the packages to the latest ersions usually helps fix 50% of users problems IME
[17:03] <BluesKaj> versions
[17:04] <BluesKaj> atod77, no
[17:04] <BluesKaj> run dist-upgrade
[17:04] <atod77> BluesKaj, I'm doing it
[17:04] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[17:07] <atod77> BluesKaj, there is nothing to be upgraded
[17:08] <BluesKaj> ok , then reboot
[17:10] <atod77> BluesKaj, ok. In case the problem persists what is the best practice. What information to provide about the processes which consulme 100% CPU. With what tool the information can be taken. In what bugtrack database I should search for already reported bugs?
[17:11] <hyper_ch> Hmmm, how can install an encrypted raid1 with current Vivid Desktop iso?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> atod77, suggest you use syatem monitor/ksysguard to monitor the cpu load
[17:13] <BluesKaj> then you find which process/PID is causing the problem, atod77
[17:17] <atod77> BluesKaj, do you know what is the kubuntu bugtrack database?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> ato
[17:18] <BluesKaj> atod77, launchpad,  https://launchpad.net
[17:24] <hyper_ch> weird.... 15.04 fails to even properly start in virtualbox
[17:25] <lordievader> hyper_ch: I've heard of more problems with Vivid + VB.
[17:26] <BluesKaj> you might need to do , sudo systemctl sddm enable
[17:26] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch,^
[17:26] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: me?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> yes
[17:26] <hyper_ch> how?
[17:26] <hyper_ch> I can't even get the desktop cd to start
[17:27] <BluesKaj> in a vt/tty , ctl+alt+F1-F6
[17:27] <hyper_ch> acpi pcc probe failed
[17:27] <hyper_ch> no valid rapl domains foundin package 0
[17:27] <hyper_ch> when trying to start the desktop cd
[17:30] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I still don't see how I could entery a tty if it even doesn't boot up
[17:31] <aftereyo> Hey BluesKa, you are using 15.04. How can I get dolphin to always use the detaile dlist as default
[17:32] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Try the nomodeset kernel parameter. Are you on a linux host?
[17:33] <hyper_ch> yes
[17:34] <hyper_ch> how do I set no modeset for vb?
[17:34] <hyper_ch> and why isn't an alternate install cd produced anymore?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> aftereyo, dolphin>view>adjustview properties
[17:34] <lordievader> hyper_ch: It is a kernel parameter, you set it in the live-cd menu.
[17:34] <hyper_ch> which menu?
[17:35] <lordievader> hyper_ch: The updated version of this one: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/kubuntu_start_install.jpg
[17:35] <hyper_ch> that doesn't appear anymore
[17:36] <aftereyo> BluesKaj: I do not have a toolbar, hence I do not have "View"
[17:36] <lordievader> hyper_ch: It does.
[17:36] <hyper_ch> no
[17:36] <lordievader> In kvm/qemu it appears.
[17:37] <aftereyo> BluesKaj: okay, I am in the preferences for dolphin
[17:37] <aftereyo> under View
[17:37] <aftereyo> but how do I set the default?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> aftereyo, right click on the toolbar>configure toolbars>show menubar then.in menubar choose main toolbar
[17:42] <hyper_ch> stupid youtube... takes like forever for processing
[17:42] <hyper_ch> lordievader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbqjXMd-brA&feature=youtu.be
[17:45] <hyper_ch> lordievader: no menu like you showed
[17:48] <aftereyo> BluesKaj: thank
[17:48] <aftereyo> I like how easy you can customize Kubuntu 15.04
[17:48] <aftereyo> instead of going through long menus
[17:49] <aftereyo> you can just do it right then and there
[17:49] <hyper_ch> so, vivid can't be run in VBox
[17:50] <BluesKaj> aftereyo,np
[17:51] <hyper_ch> and I guess the installer can't setup single disk/device raid1 with encryption either
[17:51] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, well it is a devel OS , so there are bugs , and systemd should probly be avoided if possible on a VM'
[17:52] <hyper_ch> well, I don't recall any desktop cd installer to have been able to setup single device raid1 with encryption this far
[17:52] <lordievader> hyper_ch: There is, it is sort of hidden. The keyboard with the human icon is the menu. Hit some buttuns.
[17:52] <lordievader> buttons*
[17:52] <hyper_ch> only alternate installre
[17:53] <hyper_ch> lordievader: just test it... nomodesetting didn't have any effect
[17:54] <lordievader> Hmm, try KVM ;) I can personally confirm Vivid works in KVM.
[17:54] <arcturus> has anyone ever used the smartadmin bootstrap template? for dev work
[17:54] <hyper_ch> lordievader: no kvm installed... and there shouldn't be issues with vbox
[17:56] <lordievader> 'Should not' does not allways mean there ain't any.
[17:56] <lordievader> Besides KVM is faster than VirtualBox.
[17:57] <hyper_ch> speed doesn't matter for testing
[17:58] <lordievader> Heh, right.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> lordievader, agreed, guess I'll have to pay closer attn to the newtork settings next time , but kvm is fast
[17:59] <lordievader> BluesKaj: This is a nice talk about debugging vm problems: http://video.fosdem.org/2015/devroom-virtualisation/observability.mp4
[18:28] <aftereyo> So when I click a link in here, it opens with FF instead of google chrome
[18:50] <dune_> Hi all. Got simple question - how to connect to irc.quakenet.org? I'm using Konversation (1.5-master #4303, KDE4, Kubuntu up-to-date). When trying to connect with irc.quakenet.org it stucks on connecting (shows something like "Server found, connecting..." then fails and trying again). I was trying to change ports but still no-go. Any ideas?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> dune_, google is your friend https://www.quakenet.org/servers
[18:55] <dune_> BluesKaj, I tried those servers. Still nothing. Problem is - can't find any error log or something like that. Don't know why I cannot connect with quakenet.
[18:56] <corpsemelter167> Is Quakenet still being used?
[18:57] <dune_> Yeah, by reddit.
[18:57] <lordievader> dune_: 6667 is open on underworld2.no.quakenet.org
[18:57] <lordievader> From here at least.
[18:59] <dune_> lordievader, it's not working.
[18:59] <lordievader> dune_: Have you check if the port is open for you?
[19:07] <dune_> lordievader, I just checked ports with netstat and can't see port 6667 so I'm assuming that this port is closed. That's a good trace tho, imho. Thanks for advice.
[19:07] <lordievader> dune_: Netstat will show localports, you want to check to see if you can reach the server. Use nmap or something.
[19:24] <dune_> lordievader, nmap shows that port 6667 got "filtered" status. After googling I added rule to ufw. Still nothing.
[19:25] <corpsemelter167> Doesn't 6667 mean that that port is for SSh or SSL connections?
[19:25] <corpsemelter167> I'm not too familiar with these things.
[19:26] <_matte88> hi everyone
[19:26] <corpsemelter167> Hey.
[19:29] <_matte88_> I'd like to contribute to kubuntu development
[19:29] <_matte88_> but I don't know where to start. I'm a computer engineer so I want to contribute on the programming side
[19:30] <Unit193> _matte88_: Perhaps you should ask the fine folks in #kubuntu-devel?
[19:30] <dune> Hm, it looks like I have to pass on quakenet. ;)
[19:31] <Unit193> corpsemelter167: And nope, 6667 is normally non-SSL connections.
[19:33] <corpsemelter167> So, is 6666 for SSl connections?
[19:33] <dune> why port 6667 is closed by default?
[19:33] <corpsemelter167> Disregard me, I'm stupid.
[19:33] <corpsemelter167> I'll google it.
[19:34] <Unit193> corpsemelter167: Depends on the server, 6697 is not uncommon to have it.
[19:34] <corpsemelter167> Neat.
[19:39] <_matte8> I'd like to contribute to kubuntu dev
[19:39] <_matte8> on the programming side. Where should I start?
[20:06] <aftereyo> when I do
[20:06] <aftereyo> nvm