[00:00] <wxl> why DO you want to do this?
[00:00] <acz32> because i want to dual boot on my laptop
[00:00] <wxl> just because/
[00:00] <acz32> why do i want to dual boot?
[00:00] <wxl> indeed
[00:01] <ianorlin> I am able to do dual boot vms in kvm
[00:01] <ianorlin> might be a virtualbox problem
[00:01] <acz32> i want to keep windows on for the rare occasion i may need it. i rarely ever do except to play a game
[00:01] <wxl> oh well windows is a different story
[00:01] <wxl> afaik windows will NOT want to share
[00:02] <wxl> you should install windows and then install your linux system of choice
[00:02] <wxl> or just don't use windows at all which is likely a better choice
[00:02] <acz32> i know. windows is already installed. i shrunk its volume to free up some space and want to install linux on that
[00:03] <acz32> i wonder if they will ever recognize other operating systems and share space easily
[00:20] <mrdeb> hey
[00:20] <mrdeb> when is lubuntu 15.04 coming out
[00:22] <ianorlin> mrdeb, april
[00:24] <mrdeb> what day
[00:25] <mrdeb> i will download it and install instaead of 1410
[00:25] <ianorlin> mrdeb, 14.04 is lts
[00:26] <mrdeb> no i mean the new one
[07:57] <djoi298> so is there a dark color theme for Lubuntu?
[08:00] <The_Eccentric>  yes
[08:00] <The_Eccentric> lots
[08:01] <The_Eccentric> a 2 second google search
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[10:37] <djoi298> what is the official lubuntu PPA?
[10:52] <djoi298> what's the command to start the screensaver?
[11:01] <djoi298> what is the official LXDE Lubuntu PPA that includes the LXDE version of LXpanel, instead of LXQT because the current lxpanel on the 14.04 LTS release sucks its like 90s version where you can only close 1 window at a time, thanks
[11:22] <djoi298> ppa:lubuntu-dev/lubuntu-daily ??
[11:22] <djoi298> ppa:lubuntu-dev/staging ??
[11:22] <djoi298> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa  ??
[12:08] <The_Eccentric> djoi298: are you on a lubuntu system now?
[12:11] <djoi298> yeah
[12:47] <The_Eccentric> did you try searching for it djoi298 ?
[12:47] <The_Eccentric> using apt-get
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[16:22] <edburns> Greetings programs.
[16:22] <edburns> It's been a few years since I tried this, but I'm going to make another attempt.
[16:23] <edburns> I'd like to use lubuntu for a workshop.  I'll be running it in VirtualBox.
[16:23] <edburns> I need to solve the old "make the resolution better than 800x600" problem.
[16:23] <wxl> fun fact: my work computer's host name is "mcp"
[16:23] <edburns> I've installed VBoxLinuxAdditions but still when I resize it it still doesn't get any bigger.
[16:23] <edburns> wxl: Nice.
[16:24] <edburns> Can anyone help with my resolution problem, please?
[16:24] <wxl> well ultimately this is a virtualbox problem
[16:24] <wxl> but i'll see what i can do
[16:24] <wxl> which mode are you in?
[16:25] <edburns> Still 800x600.
[16:25] <edburns> I'm re-running ./VBoxLinuxAdditions.run.
[16:26] <edburns> Ah, the build failed.
[16:27] <edburns> Warning: Unknown version of the X Window System installed.  Not installing X Window System drivers.
[16:27]  * edburns looks at the log as recommended.
[16:28] <edburns> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8825824
[16:28] <edburns> That's the console output.
[16:29] <edburns> Now I'll fetch the log as recommended on line 14.
[16:30] <edburns> wxl: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8825825
[16:31] <edburns> wxl: Perhaps the steps I followed to get VBoxGuestAdditions were not correct.
[16:31] <edburns> http://askubuntu.com/questions/311161/how-to-install-guest-additions-in-lubuntu-13-04
[16:31] <edburns> Do you have a better idea?
[16:38] <edburns> I'm going to try 13.04 instead of 14.04
[16:42] <dkessel> edburns: i've done what you're trying to achieve multiple times. it should work with lubuntu 14.04
[16:44] <dkessel> edburns: don't try to use the file names mentions on that link. you need the most up-to-date version of virtualbox for lubuntu 14.04 and use the corresponding extension pack for the same virtualbox version
[16:44] <dkessel> the log says you tried to use virtualbox 4.2.x
[16:46] <wxl> again, i suggest checking with #virtualbox
[16:46] <wxl> oops
[16:46] <wxl> #vbox
[16:51] <edburns> Will do.
[16:51] <edburns> Thanks.
[17:15] <djoi298> BTW QT apps you should use with Lubuntu-QT are SMPlayer, Clementine, Gwenview (simple image editor for stuff like redeye reduction), other software that are good are Deluge, Hexchat, Goldendict, Geany, Baobab, Quicktile, and Gnome-calculator with Financial
[17:18] <djoi298> Thunderbird is actually good too since Lubuntu is already using Firefox, it has nice features and good user support
[17:24] <djoi298> why is Transmission popular anyways? Deluge is probably more lightweight, has a much better GUI, and more features with addons
[17:25] <Duality> hi
[17:25] <djoi298> hey
[17:25] <wxl> !info deluge
[17:25] <ubottu> deluge (source: deluge): bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.10-2ubuntu0.1 (utopic), package size 20 kB, installed size 108 kB
[17:25] <wxl> !info transmission
[17:25] <ubottu> transmission (source: transmission): lightweight BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.82-1.1ubuntu4 (utopic), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB
[17:26] <wxl> transmission seems lighter weight :)
[17:26] <Duality> is it possible to reinstall an os from within an os ?
[17:26] <wxl> Duality: you just blew my mind.
[17:26] <wxl> Duality: i mean, no.
[17:26] <Duality> i meen lubuntu
[17:26] <djoi298> wxl, i mean resources when actually using the program :P
[17:27] <djoi298> Duality, use the LiveCD/USB
[17:27] <wxl> djoi298: if you'd like to present quantified scientific testing to the mailing lists, feel free.
[17:27] <Duality> djoi298: i know was just wondering.
[17:27] <wxl> does it have a command line interface, djoi298 ?
[17:27] <Duality> i am currently booted from a external harddrive and thus was wondering if i could install the lubuntu os from that one onto the one in my machine
[17:29] <djoi298> wxl, yeah i think it does
[17:29] <wxl> djoi298: then i might be interested. i don't torrent much but when i do, i don't need a silly gui.
[17:30] <djoi298> the gui is on par with Utorrent without the ads
[17:32] <wxl> djoi298: then seriously, create some quantifiable, repeatable tests and include them on the mailing list
[17:40] <djoi298> lubuntu needs to ship with a dark theme, or ship with a premade one with Shadowplay V2 by Lubuntufan
[17:40] <deicide34> Hello. i need clarification about Lubuntu repositories. Which ones are recommended for default?
[17:41] <djoi298> darker themes are probably easier on the eyes and can even save battery life on netbooks/laptops
[17:41] <deicide34> djoi298: Yeah, one like in Debian LXDE I like that one :)
[17:41] <wxl> djoi298: then join the lubuntu art team
[17:42] <djoi298> Debian LXDE is good but not as user friendly
[17:42] <wxl> deicide34: do you have a question about a particular one?
[17:43] <wxl> honestly the default is the recommended
[17:43] <deicide34> wxl: The default Debian black taskbar one works for me.
[17:43] <wxl> deicide34: the repository?
[17:45] <deicide34> wxl: Don't know that one. I said it's in Debian, haven't seen one in Ubuntu. I was just agreeing with djoi298
[17:45] <deicide34> wxl:  Ahhh,y sorry you replied to my question.
[17:46] <deicide34> unsuppored one is enabled by default. Shoul i just turn it off?
[17:46] <deicide34> unsupported*
[17:46] <wxl> unsupported?
[17:46] <wxl> which one?
[17:47] <deicide34> wxl: Just below pre-released updates.
[17:47] <deicide34> the updates section
[17:49] <wxl> deicide34: i don't see this in my sources.list
[17:49] <deicide34> trusty-backports one is the repo. Should I turn it off?
[17:49] <wxl> oh yeah i'd leave it alone
[17:50] <wxl> fyi we use the default ubuntu repos
[17:50] <deicide34> wxl: Ok, thx
[17:50] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports for more info on backports
[17:53] <deicide34> So they are, like in Debian, not enabled automatically. You have to install them manually. That's fine by me.
[17:55] <wxl> …unless explicitly requested
[17:56] <deicide34> wxl: Yes..
[17:58] <deicide34> I have a small annoyance while trying to remove/purge abiword and gnumeric. It pulls in xorg and lubuntu-desktop packages, among other things. How can i remove those programs without losing xorg?
[17:59] <deicide34> I suspect it's because those programs are part of lubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <wxl> deicide34: lubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. you SHOULD be able to remove that and not lose other dependencies
[17:59] <wxl> s/metapackage/package index/
[17:59] <wxl> so do that first and then go for it
[18:01] <deicide34> wxl:  s/metapackage/package index/ This does nothing
[18:02] <wxl> hahahah
[18:02] <wxl> you're funny
[18:02] <wxl> that's sed syntax for "replace metapackage with package index"
[18:02] <wxl> sudo apt-get purge lubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get purge abiword gnumeric
[18:08] <deicide34> wxl: Thank you, but I can't be bothered by that unneeded stuff. If I can not remove a package with simple apt-get commands without pulling in important packages, then that means I have no control over my packages.
[18:09] <deicide34> I'm lucky those packages are small
[18:09] <wxl> you appear to not understand what i'm saying
[18:09] <wxl> the lubuntu-desktop package contains an index
[18:09] <wxl> that's it
[18:09] <wxl> no actual applications
[18:09] <wxl> no dependencies
[18:10] <wxl> remove it and then you're free to do what you want
[18:17] <deicide34> Had no such problems with debian. Sadly, it's ironic how user friendliness destroys control. And that is simply not true. I get autoremove notification about removing xorg and x11-session and bunch of other programs.
[18:17] <deicide34> removed lubuntu-desktop via synaptic
[18:18] <wxl> that's strange indeed
[18:18] <wxl> no such problems here
[18:18] <deicide34> just autoremoved a bunch of neededprograms
[18:19] <deicide34> I will reboot and if that doesnt work, then I will have to reinstall Debian. At least I will have my control
[18:19] <deicide34> I installed Lubuntu just beacause of minitube
[18:20] <deicide34> And newer apps. Well, i knew that was a mistake.
[18:20] <deicide34> Sorry about the rant.
[18:20] <deicide34> Bye.
[18:25] <deicide34> Rebooted just fine. It seems those were just metapackages, not real packages.
[18:26]  * wxl thinks that's what i just said
[18:26]  * deicide34 thought tey werent
[18:27]  * wxl facepalms
[18:27]  * deicide34 apologises to the Lubuntu and Ubuntu community 
[18:28] <wxl> they killed a kitten thanks to you!
[18:28] <deicide34> wxl: NOOOOOO!
[18:28]  * deicide34 adores kittens 
[18:28] <Unit193> !metapackage | See also
[18:28] <ubottu> See also: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[18:32] <deicide34> How much RAM your Lubuntu session takes at idle?
[18:32] <wxl> i don't know, i don't usually idle :)
[18:32] <deicide34> Mine is about 100.
[18:33] <deicide34> wxl: Yeah, I might be nitpicking about that.
[18:35] <deicide34> I started using GNU/Linux about 3 months ago. My first was Xubuntu, but it was too much for my comp.
[18:36] <deicide34> Then switched to Lubuntu, but didn't stick around for long. After that, went for Antix 13, then Debian.
[18:36] <deicide34> Now back to Lubuntu :D
[18:37] <deicide34> Might stick around this time
[18:39] <Unit193> AntiX and Debian, great choices.
[18:42] <deicide34> Unit193: Thx. They were hard at first, but I adapted quickly. *buntu was/is easy.