[01:08] <snadge> so i see new pre-release drivers are in vivid.. cool.. i think, maybe i can steal them and use them in 14.10
[01:09] <snadge> oh this is for fglrx
[01:09] <snadge> short answer no :P
[02:38] <snadge> im doing a sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[02:38] <snadge> just because i want to try out the new catalyst driver ;)
[03:52] <snadge> works.. top job fellas.. i've been trying to break this thing.. i really have.. but all my stuff is still working
[03:52] <snadge> how dare you not break anything.. you're obviously not trying hard enough
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> nice
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> mutual: there are lot of cool improvements already, libreoffice 4.4, systemd, and many more
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> mutual: but i would wait to stable release
[06:28] <mutual> lotuspsychje, what's new in libreoffice 4.4?
[06:29] <mutual> lotuspsychje, and what is this unity 8 stuff i hear about?
[06:29] <mutual> lotuspsychje, and idk how systemd will affect my experience
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> mutual: there an article on omgubuntu on libreoffice revamp
[06:29]  * mutual googling
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !info unity
[06:29] <mutual> ^you tried
[06:29] <mutual> oh
[06:29] <mutual> just delayed
[06:30] <mutual> i know what unity is
[06:30] <mutual> just not what changed
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> just wanted to see the version
[06:30] <mutual> ah
[06:30] <mutual> woah this looks much better
[06:30] <mutual> so how do i upgrade if i want to
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> check the daily builds in topic
[06:32] <mutual> wait
[06:32] <mutual> i have to download an iso??
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> but i would wait its final release
[06:32] <mutual> ok
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> mutual: you will get a nice window for upgrading perhaps
[06:32] <mutual> would mesa 10.5 give graphics improvements though?
[06:32] <mutual> for games?
[06:32] <mutual> on intel
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> not sure on that1 sorry
[06:33] <mutual> ok np
[06:33] <mutual> thanks for your help
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> mutual: you can sure idle here to see future changes
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> or looking up packages info
[06:35] <mutual> i'm sorry can you rephrase please
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> mutual: you can stay in this channel (idle) to see future changes on 15.04
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> mutual: or lookup !info package-name to see what changed exactly
[06:36] <mutual> ah
[06:36] <mutual> thanks
[10:10] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:11] <aftereyo> Hello
[11:12] <lordievader> o/
[18:09] <jnxd> Hi. I am trying to add a kubuntu 15.04 beta 1 to my laptop which already has a ubuntugnome 14.04 installed. Has anyone tried such thing, and how safe/unsafe is it?
[18:10] <lordievader> jnxd: I'd try the beta in a VM or on a secondary machine which is allowed to break from time to time.
[18:18] <aftereyo> I have it install on my laptop
[18:18] <aftereyo> I would install it again
[18:18] <aftereyo> but beware it does a a few glitches
[18:18] <aftereyo> But it looks soooo good
[18:19] <aftereyo> and you know ^^ doesn't apply to most linux distros
[18:19] <penguin42> hmm, yes I should try 15.04.1
[18:26] <aftereyo> Plasma 5 will be the no goto distro for me
[18:26] <aftereyo> They really did a good job
[18:29]  * BluesKaj is not totally sold on plasma 5 ...yet
[18:30] <Daekdroom> "no goto"?
[18:31] <aftereyo> BluesKaj: it needs tweaking but it's a very good start
[18:32] <penguin42> BluesKaj: It's still got a lot of rough edges, but since 4 is getting almost no maintenance it's painful to stick on that as well
[18:32] <aftereyo> BluesKaj: Can you tell me something about Konversation, I only have a 720p screen i the configure konversation screen is there an appl, okay cancel at the bottom of the page?
[18:33] <aftereyo> I cannot scale the setting window down enough
[18:38] <BluesKaj> sorry aftereyo , I'm not sure what you mean, just grab the bottom with your cursor and pull it down ?
[18:42] <aftereyo> You know the configure konversation window?
[18:42] <rigo88> http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=174854 did this. /etc/init/kodi.conf is done. rebooted. still no autostart.
[18:43] <rigo88> was something changed in init scripting with vivid?
[18:43] <aftereyo> I can only increase it in size, it is already at it's  minimum
[18:43] <aftereyo> nvm
[18:43] <aftereyo> I solved
[18:50] <lordievader> rigo88: Yes, Ubuntu switched to systemd.
[18:52] <rigo88> lordievader: thanks. i read after.
[19:32] <rigo88_> i cant :( can maybe someone give me a hint how to start kodi with systemd?
[19:39] <MoonUnit`> can't you launch into kodi from the login screen?
[19:40] <penguin42> rigo88_: If you try something like systemctl list-unit-files |grep kodi  is it listed?
[19:41] <rigo88_> i already deleted my tries. so no. its empty
[19:41] <penguin42> oh, that's probably bad then
[19:44] <rigo88_> i put in /etc/systemd/system/kodi.service under [Service] the ExecStart=/usr/bin/kodi i get the weird em like kodi needs opengl dunno...
[19:45] <rigo88_> Install an appropriate graphics driver.
[19:45] <rigo88_> but if i start kodi by typing /usr/bin/kodi on htpc it starts up.. so i dont have to install anything else to make it run.
[19:47] <penguin42> rigo88_: Does kodi need to be started within an X session?
[19:48] <MoonUnit`> yes
[19:48] <rigo88_> penguin42: i guess. earlier in /etc/init/kodi it stand: " exec su -c "xinit /usr/bin/kodi --standalone -- /usr/bin/X -bs -nolisten tcp :0" $USER"
[19:48] <rigo88_> so probably yes.
[19:50] <penguin42> oh so it's starting X as well, that could be more entertaining then, I guess you need all the rules to make sure it gets loaded late enough etc
[19:50] <MoonUnit`> noticed there is a systemd service for kodi in arch aur
[19:50] <MoonUnit`> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kodi-standalone-service/
[19:53] <rigo88_> and how to? i mean i installed onyl a minimal vivid server system.
[19:54] <rigo88_> (the "WHY the hell u need it at all?" is a great question. i only want to learn something new..)
[19:55] <rigo88_> now it sais:    Active: inactive (dead)
[19:57] <MoonUnit`> did you enable it? sudo systemctl enable kodi.service
[20:00] <rigo88_> trying. rebooting.
[20:02] <rigo88_> i think i'm not fully understand how the systemd works.
[20:05] <MoonUnit`> learning experiance for me too, hoped copying kodi.service (from the arch aur .tar.gz) to /etc/systemd/system and enabling it would work.
[20:06] <aftereyo> when i do
[20:06] <aftereyo> sudo service sddm restart  will tha tfix any desktop glitches?
[20:07] <MoonUnit`> i would expect so
[20:07] <aftereyo> okay brb
[20:09] <aftereyo> yep that worked
[20:09] <aftereyo> is that essentially logging out?
[20:13] <MoonUnit`> no idea
[20:14] <aftereyo> well it behaves like that for me
[20:14] <rigo88_> if i put the kodi.service from arch site to /etc/systemd/system/ the screen flickers for a second and the login screen appears again.
[20:16] <MoonUnit`> hmm