[00:28] <daftykins> hi late night team, i return!
[00:29] <daftykins> i have 1.9 poppadoms and a tub of dip - and i'm not afraid to use them
[00:29] <daftykins> oh and a free beer!
[00:29] <daftykins> i do like their generosity
[00:39] <shauno> 1.9?
[00:39] <daftykins> :D
[00:43] <daftykins> product reviews make me chuckle, re: a plotter: "cannot be wireless and wired at the same time"
[00:44] <shauno> okay.  Time for bed, said zebedee.  Boing!
[00:45] <daftykins> nn sir o/
[05:25] <mapp> hi all
[10:08] <MooDoo> morning all
[10:27] <zmoylan-pi> pi day \o/
[10:28] <MooDoo> no it's not
[10:28] <MooDoo> 14/03/2015 isn't pi day
[10:28] <MooDoo> :p
[10:31]  * zmoylan-pi makes note 'no pi for MooDoo'
[10:33] <MooDoo> :)
[10:39] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[10:55] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[10:56] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[11:05] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon how are you?
[11:06] <brobostigon> hangover central. and you?
[11:06] <MooDoo> at work for the next few hours due to a system upgrade
[11:12] <brobostigon> oh dear.
[11:13] <MooDoo> I don't have to do a lot, just be here for the moment.
[11:14] <brobostigon> ok,
[11:15] <MooDoo> we're listening to radio 4 lol while i setup a dhcp server at home lol
[11:16] <brobostigon> :)
[11:17] <popey> morning
[11:18] <brobostigon> morning popey
[11:18] <MooDoo> howdy popey
[12:47] <MooDoo> at work
[16:24] <daftykins> "who shall we dispense with now, Mischief?" - https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6k7smfcd4z66od/IMG_20150314_162115.jpg?dl=0
[17:03] <mapp> hm
[17:35] <Azelphur> hey folks, got a TV here which I plug into via HDMI. The laptop detects it, I tick enable and hit apply, the GUI still says its disabled and the display doesn't come up, but I can't enable it again
[17:39] <penguin42> Azelphur: I'd check with xrandr
[17:39] <daftykins> full cold boot with it in? read Xorg.0.log?
[17:39] <Azelphur>  daftykins trying that now, brb
[17:39] <daftykins> though i prefer penguin42's idea :D
[17:39] <daftykins> guys look what they're doing to our simple island!
[17:39] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz32cipbv8fdu8s/IMG_20150314_171952.jpg?dl=0
[17:39] <daftykins> it's a... it's a Starbucks O_O
[17:41] <penguin42> civilisation at last
[17:41] <penguin42> (although I generally prefer Cafe Nero's for hot chocolate)
[17:41] <daftykins> we already have 2 Costa
[17:43]  * daftykins giggles at Quicktime still not doing full screen
[17:45] <daftykins> in other news it's cruise ship season almost
[17:45] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/59cmq6ancgf1gwl/IMG_20150314_164658.jpg?dl=0
[17:48] <Azelphur> daftykins, hmm strange after a reboot it just doesn't talk to the laptop at all
[17:48] <daftykins> how about xrandr as penguin42 suggested? no output?
[17:49] <Azelphur> daftykins, says everything is disconnected
[17:50] <daftykins> Xorg log even see it?
[17:50] <Azelphur> daftykins, yup, it's gone lol
[17:51] <Azelphur> guess that tv is a little dead too
[17:51] <daftykins> one of those cheap foreign brands?
[17:51] <Azelphur> bush, so yea :p
[17:51] <daftykins> hrmm
[17:54] <Azelphur> I think I'll take my laptop and test it back on my tv at home to see if it's my laptop or the tv that has gone
[17:55] <daftykins> Azelphur: just to be sure you're not lazily grep'ing Xorg.0.log for hdmi? sometimes i've seen it come up as the wrong connection type o0
[17:55] <daftykins> i'd expect there to be something in there for sure
[17:56] <Azelphur> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10598533/
[17:58] <daftykins> mmm LVDS and VGA
[18:00] <diddledan> I really don't get how that makes sense: [     3.202] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR disabled message. [     3.203] (--) RandR disabled
[18:01] <daftykins> i do always giggle at that
[18:01] <daftykins> "it works, honest!"
[18:17] <penguin42> that is weird, you sure you've got an HDMI socket :-)
[18:17] <penguin42> Azelphur: Is this a laptop with both an Intel and an Nvidia/ATI chip?
[18:19] <daftykins> you'd see some nouveau talk or radeon talk i would think
[18:19] <penguin42> daftykins: No, not necessarily
[18:19] <Azelphur> penguin42, yup
[18:19] <daftykins> o rry
[18:19] <penguin42> daftykins: The BIOS can switch between them and if the bios switches the nvidia off the host doesn't see it
[18:19] <penguin42> Azelphur: Right, so I suspect your HDMI port is connected only to your Nvidia, you either need bittlebee or to forcibly to switch to the nvidia in the bios
[18:20] <daftykins> see everyone always says this, but actually i've only seen BIOS switchable with nvidia in about 5% or less of cases
[18:20] <daftykins> typically it just does the whole drawing via the intel
[18:20] <Azelphur> penguin42, never needed to do that before
[18:20] <penguin42> daftykins: Yeh they only happen on higher end laptops and then some of them only wire some of the ports through some of the controllers
[18:20] <daftykins> i've got an optimus asus myself
[18:21] <penguin42> daftykins: I've fought a couple of thinkpads with them in the past
[18:24] <daftykins> it's become so much more messy to advise intel+nvidia hybrid graphics installs in #ubuntu :(
[18:24] <penguin42> Azelphur: I suspect that after the reboot the nvidia has kicked out and hence you're now only seeing the Intel for some reason
[18:24] <daftykins> had one the other day that didn't work with my suggestions, but then the user installed just nvidia-331 and it worked o0
[18:26] <penguin42> yeh I've only run them in one mode or the other not the joint mode
[18:27] <daftykins> mmm, i've never seen setups where that's a choice
[18:27] <daftykins> other than to say, not install anything nvidia
[18:27] <penguin42> the Lenovo's had bios settings to let you choose between the 3 modes
[18:29] <daftykins> hmm
[18:29] <daftykins> that would definitely be nicer
[18:31] <mapp> hmm
[18:31] <mapp> met a girl las night again who i already briefly know..really pretty black girl
[18:32] <mapp> may aswell ask her out..gives me something to do
[18:32] <mapp> then i can moan when it goes wrong
[18:32] <mapp> ;]
[18:33] <penguin42> good luck :-)
[20:03] <popey> evening all
[20:03] <diddledan> allo popey
[22:15] <diddledan> daftykins, http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/
[22:15] <daftykins> err
[22:16] <diddledan> shame it's java