[00:00] <admin123> something wrong installing samba on ubuntu server, no connection with cloud, i can't configure a static ip for my server
[00:00]  * jturek puts the AED away
[00:00] <Bashing-om> aaas: Consider that version control is under package management. Files do exist as to what the package manager has done. Status files are manintained by the system as to what is and what is to be.
[00:01] <bekks> admin123: So whats the issue you want to solve first?
[00:01] <aaas> Bashing-om but if you make a change to file in etc the package manager doesn't track that, correct?
[00:02] <admin123> connection to the cloud
[00:02] <bekks> admin123: Fix you IP addressing first...
[00:02] <admin123> oh, first, i install the server on virtualbox
[00:02] <bekks> admin123: Yeah, so do that. :)
[00:02] <admin123> i think the wrong is there
[00:02] <bekks> I dont think so.
[00:03] <bekks> I think you understanding of the networking mode for your vm is wrong.
[00:04] <treelzebub> ./edgeofmyseat
[00:04] <admin123> ok, but, after the first up, my server goes fine, my host pc, with ubuntu 14, runs correctly, and connect to the other pc on lan
[00:04] <admin123> now, after install samba, all is wrong
[00:04] <bekks> Define "all is wrong".
[00:05] <AndChat734064> Hey, does anyone here have any experience with VAAPI?
[00:05] <bekks> samba does not change your network connection.
[00:05] <admin123> yeah, i know, but... what happen
[00:05] <admin123> ok, step by step
[00:06] <admin123> host pc ip some 192.168.1.x
[00:06] <admin123> server ip with virtual box 10.0.0.1x
[00:07] <admin123> with this ip on virtualbox, the internet runs correctly
[00:07] <admin123> but i can't see other pc's on lan
[00:08] <zege2> admin123: no wonder. your server is in a different network
[00:08] <Timvde|> wafflejock: nslookup is slow too. But pinging 8.8.8.8 doesn't work either. *all* internet connectivity is gone.
[00:08] <rypervenche> admin123: You are currently using NATing. You will either need to correctly set up the NAT routing and port forward from your VM, or you'll want to use a bridge interface.
[00:08] <admin123> before, i install lamp good, my host pc display a basic configuration
[00:09] <admin123> the connection between pc's with server runs fine
[00:10] <admin123> now, doing the same thing, i can't connect with lan or internet connection
[00:10] <bekks> Define "doing the same thing".
[00:10] <bekks> You did not even mention your ubuntu version yet.
[00:10] <admin123> start the server, connect to lan and navigate on internet
[00:11] <admin123> 14.04 lts
[00:11] <fighterflight> i'm distracted in another window. thanks again for the help
[00:11] <bekks> admin123: And since you yre using NAT, you cannot access your VM from the host. Which is described in the vbox manual.
[00:11] <admin123> and server 14.04
[00:11] <wafflejock> Timvde, yeah would follow other suggestions then, use lspci -k, see what exact device and module is loaded and google for your version of ubuntu and see if you can find anything related
[00:11] <admin123> with NAT, the same error, with bridged or something else
[00:12] <bekks> admin123: WHICH error? :)
[00:12] <wafflejock> Timvde, perhaps try disabling ipv6 http://askubuntu.com/questions/440649/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-14-04
[00:12] <Timvde|> wafflejock: the IPv6 could've been a coincidence too, but I'll try to see if it helps :)
[00:12] <admin123> no connection like before
[00:12] <admin123> :P
[00:13] <bekks> admin123: "no connection" is far too vage. Connection from where to where, using which tools, how are you trying to "connect", etc.?
[00:14] <wafflejock> Timvde, yup just guessing at this point but shouldn't hurt to try
[00:14] <Timvde> true :)
[00:14] <admin123> connection from pc's host and server on virtalbox
[00:14] <bekks> admin123: As I just said: using NAT, you CANNOT connect from host to guest directly.
[00:15] <TiK> admin123: do bridged mode
[00:15] <TiK> then you wil. have a local ip
[00:15] <admin123> ok, i use the bridged mode
[00:15] <bekks> And change the IP address of the guest afterwards.
[00:15] <TiK> you can "talk" with
[00:15] <admin123> and no connection bekks
[00:15] <bekks> Define "no connection".
[00:15] <bekks> Provide the details I asked, please.
[00:15] <TiK> they will share the same ip but aa different local ip
[00:15] <HeroCC> Quick Question: How do I use a command with multiple of the same quote in it? For example:
[00:15] <HeroCC> alias $oldCmd='echo "Command $baseCmd not found, using $oldCmd" && $oldCmd'
[00:16] <HeroCC> I want to put quotes around $oldCmd and $newCmd
[00:16] <HeroCC> But it escapes the alias
[00:17] <admin123> bekks, you and i on a infinite bucle
[00:17] <admin123> tnx for help dude
[00:29]  * treelzebub pats bekks on the back
[00:31] <W1n5t0n> hello?
[00:31] <W1n5t0n> yo???????????????????????????????
[00:31] <W1n5t0n> nigga
[00:31] <W1n5t0n> wtf!!!!!!!11
[00:32] <Kamuela> How would I go about diagnosing why my Ubuntu machine disconnects from my router every 10 minutes or so?
[00:36] <ai6pg> Kamuela - wireless or wired ?
[00:36] <Kamuela> ai6pg: wireless
[00:36] <ai6pg> Kamuela - have the same problem.  I'm using wired now. Would like to see the solution.
[00:38] <Timvde|> wafflejock: nope, just lost internet connection again :(
[00:42] <kulelu88> Hi there.
[00:42] <kulelu88> For the ubuntu firewall, how do I add an application that I installed as a Rule??
[00:43] <kulelu88> the application is Dukto
[00:43] <kulelu88> file transfer application
[00:43] <teward> kulelu88: by default the 'firewall' doesn't block anything outboudn
[00:44] <kulelu88> teward: I am trying to create an inbound filter
[00:44] <kulelu88> the firewall is blocking inbound
[00:44] <teward> kulelu88: you have to determine the ports used by the application - you can guess by doing this: sudo netstat -tulpn | grep dukto
[00:44] <teward> kulelu88: no clue if that'll work to id the ports it's on
[00:45] <teward> kulelu88: it should be documented in the application though and its documentation.
[00:45] <kulelu88> teward: you mean which port it uses?
[00:45] <kulelu88> is in the documentation?
[00:46] <wafflejock> Timvde, check out lsb_release -a, and lspci -k | grep wifi -B2
[00:46] <kulelu88> teward: in the output, where is the port number shown?
[00:46] <wafflejock> Timvde, er just lspci -k, if the grep doesn't work out
[00:47] <teward> kulelu88: pastebin the output
[00:47] <teward> !pastebin | kulelu88
[00:48] <pavlos> Timvde, lspci -nn might help
[00:49] <kulelu88> I messaged you tew
[00:49] <kulelu88> teward:
[00:50] <teward> kulelu88: i don't accept random pms
[00:50] <kulelu88> teward: It is just the output
[00:50] <kulelu88> nothing more
[00:53] <W1n5t0n> hello?
[00:53] <W1n5t0n> niggas?
[00:53] <kulelu88> nevermind, found the port. thanks for the command though teward
[00:54] <W1n5t0n> hey has anybody heard of irssi?
[00:54] <teward> W1n5t0n: yes, however your attitude (and swearing) is relatively bad here, and isn't a good thing.
[00:54] <deper30> @teward, yes, irssi is amazing
[00:54] <deper30> er, wrong person :)
[00:54] <W1n5t0n> im cussing because im trying to get attention
[00:54] <teward> W1n5t0n: that's a fastline for a ban
[00:54] <teward> so don't do it.
[00:55] <kulelu88> muricans
[00:55] <W1n5t0n> theres hundreds on here and nobody is talking so thats why sorry
[00:55] <deper30> just a quick question in here, I'm looking to migrate my OS to another hard drive that is a larger size. Could I just dd it to the other drive and things should be fine?
[00:56] <W1n5t0n> anyways irssi i want to use it but i cannot
[00:56] <W1n5t0n> can anybody help me?
[00:56] <teward> W1n5t0n: 'cannot' is vague - there needs to be more specifics about 'cannot use it' and why
[00:57] <deper30> W1n5t0n: just open a terminal and type 'irssi'
[00:57] <W1n5t0n> i cant use it because when i type in /join and then a channel it says IrssI: not connected to a server
[00:57] <deper30> W1n5t0n: connect ot a server first
[00:57] <W1n5t0n> how?
[00:57] <deper30> for freenode, you want to '/connect irc.freenode.net'
[00:57] <W1n5t0n> this is literally my first time doing an irc
[00:58] <W1n5t0n> i know nothing of it so sorry if i sound like an idiot
[00:58] <treelzebub> W1n5t0n: you don't say
[00:59] <W1n5t0n> anyways i plan to use it for pm my friends during class
[00:59] <W1n5t0n> i can use Xchat np but irssi is a pain in the butt
[01:00] <kulelu88> ouch treelzebub
[01:00] <W1n5t0n> see what i mean no reply
[01:00] <W1n5t0n> -_-
[01:01] <W1n5t0n> hundreds of people on here NO ANSWERS
[01:01] <kulelu88> W1n5t0n: he told you to connect using that command
[01:01] <W1n5t0n> what command?
[01:01] <kulelu88> secondly, people will help when they can. This isn't paid support buddy
[01:02] <kulelu88> ... /connect irc.freenode.net
[01:02] <OerHeks> take read W1n5t0n https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi#Using_Irssi
[01:03] <W1n5t0n> dude its so simple of a problem "buddy" so dont give me that crap you guys know how to use it more than i do
[01:03] <W1n5t0n> and he left
[01:03] <OerHeks> Yes, that is why we made that help page W1n5t0n
[01:04] <W1n5t0n> thanks and look sorry if im acting like a buthole i just get really fustrated when i cant figure something out really i do apologize on my part and thanks for your resposes
[01:04] <SchrodingersScat> !language
[01:04] <W1n5t0n> *responses
[01:05] <W1n5t0n> you cant say butthole on here?
[01:05] <Ben64> W1n5t0n: you've been asked to tone down your language a few times already, do so
[01:05] <W1n5t0n> -_- fine
[01:06] <Ben64> and this is Ubuntu support, not irssi, not irc support, not a place for you to get out your frustrations
[01:06] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | to find channels that are more fitting for those topics
[01:07] <W1n5t0n> are there any places where its just a whatever kind of chat?
[01:07] <OerHeks> channels with ## are non-official channels
[01:07] <Timvde|> wafflejock: Sorry, I fell asleep, it's already 2AM here :) I'm using utopic, and lspci -i doesn't give any output with "wifi" in it
[01:07] <OerHeks> *support
[01:08] <pavlos> Timvde, lspci -nn might help
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> W1n5t0n: there's a few, try the alis bot, some are just general chat
[01:08] <W1n5t0n> is there a list where i can look at the hundreds of channels
[01:09] <W1n5t0n> alis bot/
[01:09] <Ben64> yes, read what ubottu said about alis
[01:09] <Timvde|> pavlos: no output with "wifi" either
[01:10] <pavlos> Timvde, since I came last in the discussion, ls lspci -nn does not show the adapter try lsusb ... dont use grep
[01:11] <pavlos> Timvde, if*
[01:11] <Timvde|> oh, aha: 0d:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01)
[01:11] <pavlos> well done
[01:12] <pavlos> Timvde, so it is a matter of searching online for AR9462 and ubuntu
[01:12] <W1n5t0n> it just redirected me to channels about alis
[01:12] <Timvde|> pavlos: do you know the original problem?
[01:12] <yeats> ath9k should probably handle that card
[01:12] <pavlos> Timvde, no so I'm sorry if I jumped in
[01:13] <SchrodingersScat> W1n5t0n: try /msg alis list *offtopic
[01:13] <Timvde|> pavlos: my laptop randomly loses internet connectivity when at home. Other devices don't have the problem (but all other devices are Windows or Android), and my laptop doesn't have a problem on other networks
[01:13] <W1n5t0n> oh cool
[01:14] <miguel_> hola
[01:14] <pavlos> Timvde, seems this chipset has issues ...
[01:14] <Guest39869> alguien me puede ayudar con el ubuntu
[01:14] <Kamuela> ai6pg: wireless
[01:14] <pavlos> !es | Guest39869
[01:14] <Kamuela> ai6pg: sorry
[01:15] <Kamuela> How would I go about diagnosing why my Ubuntu machine disconnects from my router every 10 minutes or so?
[01:15] <Timvde|> pavlos: Never had any issues in the past two years, and it works fine on all other networks
[01:15] <Timvde|> pavlos: And I can't find any clues about why it disconnects :(
[01:15] <yeats> Timvde|: looks like there's a kernel bug on it: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42877
[01:16] <pavlos> Timvde, with new kernels seems the support for this chip got hosed.
[01:16] <pavlos> thanks yeats
[01:16] <Timvde|> So.. "I'm out of luck"?
[01:17] <yeats> Timvde|: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/301442/atheros-ar9462-wifi-very-unstable-package-loss might help
[01:17] <yeats> Timvde|: bug comments may have workarounds
[01:18] <wafflejock> Timvde, worst case scenario can pick up a wireless USB adapter if it's a big annoyance
[01:19] <Timvde|> wafflejock: Well, I used my phone as a wifi receiver before :)
[01:20] <Timvde|> But thanks for your help :)
[01:20] <yeats> Timvde|: also have a look at /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog for messages around the times of the drops, then google those
[01:20] <ubuntu-mate> test
[01:20] <yeats> it may be something you can work around
[01:20] <Timvde|> yeats: Didn't find anything interesting there
[01:21] <Timvde|> I already looked at all log files that seemed relevant to me before coming here
[01:21] <yeats> Timvde|: well, now that you know the kernel module is ath9k, that might allow you to search log messages for that
[01:22] <yeats> e.g., 'grep ath /var/log/syslog | less'
[01:22] <pavlos> Timvde, http://askubuntu.com/questions/224619/how-to-resolve-wireless-disconnect-problem-in-atheros-ath9k
[01:22] <Timvde|> Btw, I don't *disconnect*, I only lose internet access. That's the weird part :/
[01:23] <pavlos> Timvde, maybe you need to blacklist the driver
[01:24] <Timvde|> pavlov: and then Ubuntu will choose another, more generic driver that might work?
[01:25] <yeats> Timvde|: ath9k is the "generic" driver for that model card, FYI
[01:26] <wafflejock> Timvde, weirdest part to me is you say it doesn't have this problem on other wifi networks, makes me thing it must be related to the encryption protocol for the wifi then or something in the network that's messing it up (not sure what that would be though)
[01:26] <yeats> Timvde|: I had a similar issue and from the log messages, I was able to find a workaround (in my case it was disabling N wireless support)
[01:26] <pavlos> Timvde, no, the idea is some parameters are not accepted in the ath9k driver. BTW, what's the exact hardware (laptop,desktop)?
[01:26] <Timvde|> pavlos: Acer Aspire V3-771G
[01:28] <Timvde|> ueOkay, I switched to tethering my wifi through my phone again, I should be stable now
[01:29] <Timvde|> wafflejock: Yea, that's strange. And afaik, the two networks that I use most, are very similar
[01:29] <Timvde|> Both n with wpa2-psk and AES, afaik
[01:29] <pavlos> Timvde, another post suggests disabling ipv6 in network settings
[01:30] <Timvde|> yeats: I would prefer not to disable n support, for obvious reasons :) Especially since another network is working on n
[01:30] <Timvde|> pavlos: I tried that earlier this evening, didn't help :(
[01:30] <Timvde|> I guess I'll just use my phone as wireless receiver for now
[01:30] <yeats> Timvde|: I wasn't necessarily suggesting that, just providing my experience for your info in case it puts you on the right scent ;-)
[01:31] <Timvde|> and hope some update fixes it in the future
[01:33] <pavlos> Timvde, another suggestion ... sudo modprobe -rfv acer_wmi
[01:34] <Timvde|> pavlos: let's try :)
[01:35] <pavlos> Timvde, then blacklist the driver ... echo "blacklist acer_wmi" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[01:35] <pavlos> Timvde, then reboot and pray :)
[01:35] <Timvde|> pavlos: oh, does modprobe -r survive reboot?
[01:37] <pavlos> Timvde, dont think so but it the driver is blacklisted, it is not loaded with insmod
[01:38] <pavlos> if*
[01:38] <Timvde|> pavlos: Oh, I missed your message in between, sorry :)
[01:39] <vodkode> I went to officemax today, why is it they are selling these AMD E1/E2 powered all-in-ones? it is such a sorry CPU the Proc's from literally 7 - 8 years ago stomp it
[01:39] <vodkode> I was given one and it barely runs Ubuntu (no, it seriously does barely run it, KDE is laggy, it just sucks)
[01:39] <daftykins> vodkode: off topic i'm afraid
[01:39] <vodkode> ok
[01:40] <pavlos> vodkode, try a lighter DE like xfce
[01:40] <vodkode> thats what I did, its just, gah, its horrible and its not the OS's fault, I have an IBM T400 that screams with Ubuntu
[01:40] <vodkode> and the T400 has 2gb of memory the AMD E2 1.8ghz has 6gb and crawls
[01:42] <pavlos> vodkode, search the net for that model, if others have similar issues ...
[01:42] <Timvde|> pavlos: Now the thing is... How long should I go without problems before declaring it fixed? :P
[01:43] <Timvde|> Having connection issues is a recognizable, but not a decidable problem :(
[01:43] <Timvde|> [/computer-science-nerd]
[01:44] <pavlos> Timvde, dont know that, d/l a big torrent and walk around the house and see if connection drops while d/l
[01:44] <SchrodingersScat> symlink urandom and download that remotely?
[01:44] <Timvde|> pavlos: It was a rhetorical question :)
[01:45] <pavlos> Timvde, :) at times, I do the same, walk my laptop around the house to see how the connection behaves
[01:47] <Timvde|> pavlos: but I jinxed it, I lost my internet connection
[01:48] <pavlos> darn
[01:48] <smeghma> hi all
[01:48] <Timvde|> pavlos: So let's just use my phone as wifi receiver for now and go to bed (it's almost 3AM here)
[01:48] <Timvde|> I'm only here in weekends, so it's not *too* bad
[01:48] <Timvde|> thanks all for your kind help :)
[01:49] <pavlos> Timvde, :) or if you can buy one of those tiny usb wireless adapters (wireless mice use similar) ...
[01:50] <pavlos> Timvde, np, I used to live in Leuven many years ago
[01:50] <Timvde|> pavlos: heh, I study there :)
[01:54] <drose379> Hey, anyone run into laggy graphics after waking from sleep or hibernate?
[01:56] <smeghma> yes
[01:57] <drose379> you know a fix smeghma?
[01:58] <smeghma> well there's not really a fix... black people tend to steal the graphics card or the monitor
[01:58] <smeghma> while you are asleep
[01:58] <drose379> oh
[02:14] <niggur> hi all
[02:35] <Finetundra> how do you log into tty1 in a live session?
[02:36] <daftykins> should already be
[02:36] <Finetundra> what do you mean?
[02:37] <daftykins> typically switching to it i've just seen ubuntu@ubuntu~#
[02:37] <daftykins> which version are you trying?
[02:37] <retentiveboy> yeah, no login prompt in live mode AFAIK
[02:38] <Finetundra> 13.10 live disc is all that can sorta run right now
[02:38] <daftykins> how's that even possible? :) download a new one
[02:38] <Moonlightning> Oh, wow.
[02:38] <Finetundra> I tried to. it flat out won't boot
[02:39] <daftykins> what version, on what kind of medium?
[02:39] <Moonlightning> Maybe there should be a confirmation for that. Or some setup such that the bot tells you you should only use that trigger in emergencies /before/ it mass-pings all the ops.
[02:39] <xkk> Can anyone help me with installing Ubuntu ? I get this error on booting the live CD and pressing either install or try ubuntu without installing -> http://i.imgur.com/irQIAVh.jpg
[02:40] <daftykins> Finetundra: yep confirmed, auto logged in @ TTY1 on a 14.04 live session
[02:40] <xkk> It's ubuntu 14.10 from a thumb drive
[02:40] <Finetundra> what do you mean what version? if you mean number then 14.04 on a CD. It's worked before on many machines except this one which only seems to like the 13.10 disc
[02:40] <daftykins> xkk: likely your download was corrupt or your drive wasn't sucessfully made up.
[02:41] <daftykins> Finetundra: booted with nomodeset?
[02:42] <xkk> daftykins: is there a way to check if the download was corrupted? I reformatted the thumbdrive and used universal-usb-installer twice
[02:42] <xkk> no dice though
[02:42] <Finetundra> daftykins, I don't know what that is
[02:42] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Finetundra
[02:42] <daftykins> !md5 | xkk
[02:44] <daftykins> xkk: try a full format on the drive as well
[02:47] <xkk> daftykins: kk checked md5 and it's correct
[02:47] <xkk> daftykins: I will try a full format of the thumbdrive
[02:48] <xkk> daftykins: do you think I should try unetbootin instead of the tool from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows ?
[02:48] <daftykins> UUI from pendrivelinux.com is fine, unetbootin should be avoided
[02:48] <xkk> daftykins: okay
[02:49] <daftykins> xkk: is it a 750 Ti you have?
[02:49] <xkk> daftykins: brand new laptop: Acer Aspire V 15 (V3-572G-76EM) and it has a Geforce 840m gfx chipset
[02:50] <daftykins> xkk: mmhmm, see above when i typed !nomodeset to someone else, you may end up needing that same function to boot -possibly not but worth bearing in mind
[02:50] <daftykins> bed for me, gl all
[02:51] <thaha> ???????????
[02:51] <thaha> halo
[02:51] <xkk> daftykins: thank you for your help!
[02:51] <thaha> aaarumilleppa ?
[02:55] <mopia> I am having trouble with multiple monitors after a reinstall. It was working before but I do not remember how I did it. Google doesn't seem to be helping. My issue is the additional screens initialise on power up, but shut down after the OS gets started.
[02:56] <thaha>  am having trouble with resolution in ubuntu 14.04
[02:56] <thaha>  am having trouble with resolution in ubuntu 14.04
[02:56] <thaha>  am having trouble with resolution in ubuntu 14.04
[03:00] <HoNgOuRu> Hi, I have a question. How do I create a path like C:\ so a program can read files located in "C:\db\" in linux ? I am using a program made with java but the path of the file is hardcoded
[03:01] <HoNgOuRu> its a .jar file so no wine needed
[03:02] <AmyVictoria> hey
[03:02] <AmyVictoria> so uh
[03:02] <AmyVictoria> I'm kinda having an issue
[03:03] <ace2race> hi i need some help putting an iso file on a usb
[03:03] <omgitsmit> ace2race: have you tried unetbootin?
[03:04] <ace2race> yes and i did it soo much over and over it broke my usb
[03:04] <AmyVictoria> I can't seem to actually log in. I type in my password on the log in screen and nothing comes up and all I can see is my desktop and the version in the bottom corner.
[03:04] <ace2race> usb stick
[03:04] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: can you get console if you press CTRL-ALT-F1?
[03:05] <AmyVictoria> yes
[03:05] <omgitsmit> ace2race: so the usb is "broken"
[03:05] <HoNgOuRu> can anybody throw some light to my problem ? I need a path "C:\db\" so a program can acces its files in ubuntu
[03:06] <ace2race> yeah.. not the port.. just the usb stick.. i dont mind. i probuly just formated to much... i have more usb sticks
[03:06] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: can you login?
[03:06] <AmyVictoria> I type in my password and that's what brings me to the screen
[03:06] <AmyVictoria> no terminal
[03:06] <AmyVictoria> no status bar
[03:06] <AmyVictoria> and no desktop icons
[03:06] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: im sayin on the F1 terminal
[03:06] <AmyVictoria> oh
[03:07] <omgitsmit> ...
[03:07] <ace2race> i got the iso and i cant get it to work.. but it runs in vm virtual box.. but i need it to run all by its self so i can have access to all my ram and run it alone
[03:09] <AmyVictoria> it's telling me my log in is incorrect
[03:09] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: you may have the user incorrect, anyway hit CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to the "desktop"
[03:09] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: hit CTRL-ALT T
[03:09] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: does a terminal come up?
[03:09] <ace2race> so is there anyother way to install the os to my computer by my current os without a usb
[03:09] <AmyVictoria> I can't open terminal on the desktop
[03:10] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: if you can log into the system on the F1 terminal, i can walk you through reinstalling the ubuntu desktop
[03:10] <AmyVictoria> my mouse cursor is displayed and mobes if that means anything
[03:10] <AmyVictoria> okay
[03:10] <AmyVictoria> let me try and get the login right this time
[03:11] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: you should see the username when typing your password before logging into the desktop
[03:11] <AmyVictoria> yeah
[03:11] <AmyVictoria> I typed that in
[03:11] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: hmm
[03:11] <AmyVictoria> but I might have mafe a mistake
[03:11] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: i dont know what to tell ya
[03:11] <AmyVictoria> let me try again
[03:11] <omgitsmit> lol
[03:12] <AmyVictoria> in the terminal spaces in the username would still be spaces or something else?
[03:12] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: usernames do not have spaces, if im not mistaken
[03:12] <ace2race> how do i make it so i can install win 7 from a usb stick.. i need to install windows beside my current os
[03:12] <AmyVictoria> my username is my name and it is with spaces
[03:13] <AmyVictoria> like
[03:13] <omgitsmit> ive never used my real name on ubuntu, so i always thought it was displaying my username
[03:13] <omgitsmit> i guess its just a display name
[03:13] <AmyVictoria> it shows me "Amelia Victoria Wilson" above the password input box
[03:13] <omgitsmit> Thats a very official display name :)
[03:14] <AmyVictoria> are the spaces in issue?
[03:14] <omgitsmit> im afraid i wont be able to help any further since you cannot log into the system
[03:14] <AmyVictoria> should I replace them with dashes or underscores?
[03:14] <omgitsmit> i dont know :(
[03:14] <AmyVictoria> my guest mode works if that means anything
[03:14] <omgitsmit> someone else may know how to resolve your issue without it
[03:15] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, i just got here. I'm sorry, but can you repeat your issue?
[03:15] <ace2race> omgitsmit are you still helping me? i cant get it to boot from the usb
[03:15] <omgitsmit> ace2race: i did assist by suggesting an app you've already tries.
[03:15] <AmyVictoria> I am trying to log in to my account but after I enter my password there is no launcher, status bar, or desktop iconws
[03:16] <ace2race> why arnt any usbs popping up in unet booten for me?
[03:16] <AmyVictoria> my gues account works and my mouse is displaying
[03:16] <AmyVictoria> guest MODE, not account
[03:16] <omgitsmit> treelzebub: AmyVictoria: sounds like .cache issue maybe?
[03:17] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, interesting. gimme a sec.
[03:17] <xkk> dangit. Still getting error (http://i.imgur.com/irQIAVh.jpg) even after completely reformatting disk :/
[03:17] <treelzebub> omgitsmit, could be!
[03:18] <xkk> does anyone have any other ideas as to what it might be ?
[03:18] <omgitsmit> treelzebub: they cant get into the system via F1 or i would just have them reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:18] <xkk> is it possible it's caused by fastboot of some sort ?
[03:18] <omgitsmit> maybe unity also
[03:18] <Smarticles101> Lol
[03:18] <omgitsmit> xkk: /dev/loop0 is your cd-rom
[03:18] <xkk> omgitsmit: I'm botting from a USB drive
[03:18] <omgitsmit> xkk: you're trying to format your cd-rom?
[03:19] <ace2race> i hit ctrl+alt+F1 and i about couldent get out lol
[03:19] <omgitsmit> (lol)
[03:19] <xkk> omgitsmit: I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.10 desktop amd64 onto a new laptop
[03:19] <ace2race> you can get out by ctrl+alt+F7
[03:20] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:20] <AmyVictoria> 14.04
[03:20] <ace2race> AmyVictoria, i think i can help
[03:20] <omgitsmit> xkk: what was above that? the error above it is the actual info we need.
[03:20] <omgitsmit> xkk: something about Maxwell and his chipset ;)
[03:21] <xkk> omgitsmit: there is nothing before that. I boot -> press f12 -> click enter on "Try Ubuntu" -> I get small Ubuntu loading screen -> That error
[03:21] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, do you have an nvidia gfx card?
[03:21] <xkk> that is the only text ever on the screen
[03:21] <omgitsmit> xkk: try the install option instead
[03:21] <AmyVictoria> no
[03:21] <AmyVictoria> no
[03:21] <yeats> AmyVictoria: the displayed name (your full name with spaces) is *not* your username - you would have picked your username when installing
[03:22] <omgitsmit> xkk: instead of "try ubuntu"
[03:22] <AmyVictoria> hmm
[03:22] <xkk> omgitsmit: yeah, I tried that. Same exact result :/
[03:22] <omgitsmit> xkk: doh
[03:22] <AmyVictoria> how do I find that?
[03:22] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, what's this about a username? are you typing your full name as a username?
[03:22] <AmyVictoria> it's what displays when I log in
[03:22] <quinthius> hi all... installing restricted extras from software center... entire app went dark gray and been sitting like that for 20-30 mins now, is that normal?
[03:23] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, what is what displays where?
[03:23] <ace2race> what is you username again?
[03:23] <AmyVictoria> when I go to log in
[03:23] <AmyVictoria> I only type in my password
[03:23] <omgitsmit> quinthius: of course not, feel free to kill the software center and relaunch
[03:23] <AmyVictoria> above the field is my full name
[03:23] <yeats> AmyVictoria: right, and mine shows my full name too, but that's not my username
[03:23] <omgitsmit> quinthius: attempt to install again. its locked up on me in the past as well.
[03:23] <quinthius> omgitsmit: thanks :)
[03:23] <treelool> AmyVictoria: Try to log in with just amelia or Amilia
[03:24] <yeats> AmyVictoria: username is probably something like 'amelia'
[03:24] <omgitsmit> quinthius: if you yell and click X to close enough times, you might get the crash dialog box :)
[03:24] <xkk> I guess the issue is that it's not picking up the USB driver at installation time "for some reason" (that is my best guess)
[03:24] <xkk> I do not know enough about how linux internals work
[03:24] <omgitsmit> xkk: its some hardware of some type
[03:24] <yeats> AmyVictoria: the installer automatically selects a username based on the name you type in (usually your first name)
[03:24] <omgitsmit> xkk: or the USB is corrupt, have you tried reflashing?
[03:25] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria, so you're saying you type a password and you get nothing but a desktop background?
[03:25] <AmyVictoria> yeah
[03:25] <AmyVictoria> that exactly
[03:25] <treelzebub> okay. hold.
[03:25] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: try username: amy on that F1 screen
[03:25] <xkk> omgitsmit: I checked ISO md5 and it's valid. I reflashed USB three times, including a full-reformat
[03:25] <omgitsmit> xkk: good work
[03:26] <AmyVictoria> neithewr Amelia or Amy worked
[03:26] <treelzebub> i think ace2race was right. give ctrl+alt+F7 a shot
[03:26] <omgitsmit> xkk: silly question, any hardware called "maxwell" on the system? dvd-rom?
[03:26] <yeats> AmyVictoria: you might try 'awilson' too
[03:26] <treelzebub> after you supply the user/pass that you think is most likely correct...
[03:26] <xkk> omgitsmit: I think that is the Nvidia GPU on the laptop
[03:26] <omgitsmit> yeah i couldnt get AmyVictoria into the system lol
[03:26] <omgitsmit> xkk: that should be just fine
[03:27] <omgitsmit> xkk: is there a cd in the computer by any chance?
[03:27] <yeats> AmyVictoria: oh - and do 'amelia' not 'Amelia'
[03:27] <xkk> omgitsmit: no CD/DVD/BlueRay drive is on the laptop, no. It didn't come with one.
[03:27] <AmyVictoria> IT WORKED
[03:28] <xkk> omgitsmit: there's an obvious slot where one could go, but none is present.
[03:28] <AmyVictoria> CAPITALISM STRIKES AGAIN
[03:28] <omgitsmit> Houston, we have access.
[03:28] <pavlos> how about if Amy reboots into single mode and then look at /etc/passwd
[03:28] <yeats> AmyVictoria: :-)
[03:28] <treelzebub> yay! ace2race to the rescue.
[03:28] <AmyVictoria> okay
[03:28] <AmyVictoria> now what
[03:28] <ace2race> what did i do?
[03:29] <omgitsmit> xkk: i had some older hardware that had installation issues, i used the "alternate cd" to install
[03:29] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria: what's on your screen?
[03:29] <xkk> omgitsmit: it's really really new hardware, I am betting all the USB ports are v3 -- do you think that might be the issue ?
[03:29] <AmyVictoria> welcome to ubuntu stuff
[03:29] <AmyVictoria> 20 packages can be updated
[03:29] <AmyVictoria> 16 are security
[03:29] <ace2race> update
[03:30] <omgitsmit> xkk: have you checked if the BIOS supports, like, "under clocking" the 3.0 to 2.0?
[03:30] <omgitsmit> xkk: might help
[03:30] <AmyVictoria> ubuntu is free... ABSOLUTELY NO WARRENTY
[03:30] <xkk> omgitsmit: Acer Aspire V 15 (model: V3-572G-76EM) FWIW
[03:30] <omgitsmit> NO REFUNDS
[03:30] <treelzebub> oh boy. you guys take it from here. from here you learn linux :D
[03:30] <xangua> !ot | AmyVictoria omgitsmit
[03:30] <AmyVictoria> it showed some stuff but I don't think it did anything
[03:30] <xkk> omgitsmit: sadly bios is very dumb and offers almost no features on anything
[03:31] <omgitsmit> xkk: oh joy
[03:31] <ace2race> i read that too.. i like ubuntu :)
[03:31] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: sudo apt-get update
[03:31] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: then sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:31] <yeats> AmyVictoria: probably need to do something like what's described in the answers here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults
[03:31] <AmyVictoria> downloading stuff now
[03:32] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: if that doesnt help, we will dump the xsession cache
[03:32] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: and maybe reinstall the packages
[03:32] <omgitsmit> AmyVictoria: since the guest session works fine.
[03:33] <omgitsmit> xkk: to be honest, this just looks like a bad USB or bad ISO
[03:33] <AmyVictoria> well
[03:33] <yeats> AmyVictoria: http://askubuntu.com/a/80988 is a variation of that same approach
[03:33] <omgitsmit> xkk: how are you making this usb anyway? maybe that's where you're getting it mixed up
[03:33] <AmyVictoria> now I just gotta wait for it to download and see what happens
[03:33] <pavlos> xkk, can you try that usb with another compute|desktop|laptop?
[03:33] <xkk> omgitsmit: I'll try booting the USB on another PC and see if it works.
[03:34] <omgitsmit> xkk: sounds good
[03:34] <xkk> omgitsmit: For creating USB I follow official tutorial http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:34] <ace2race> hey omgitsmit if i tried unetbooten and it seemed like it just skiped installing the files from my iso files and said done could it mean that my iso file is corrupt?
[03:34] <ace2race> but my iso file work in virtualbox
[03:34] <omgitsmit> ace2race: you can check the ISO file with the md5 sum
[03:34] <omgitsmit> make sure its good
[03:34] <ace2race> whats md5 sum?
[03:35] <omgitsmit> ace2race: its a finger print hash of a file, so you can verify every bit and byte is there.
[03:35] <pavlos> man md5sum
[03:35] <AmyVictoria> [terrible wifi intensifies]
[03:35] <treelzebub> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:35] <AmyVictoria> 40mg shouldn't take this long
[03:36] <ace2race> oh so just install from the software center
[03:36] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria: you should really be tethered to your router if you're just now installing and updating ubuntu.
[03:37] <omgitsmit> xkk: can you edit the syslinux.cfg file on the usb?
[03:38] <AmyVictoria> treelzebub: for some wierd reason the ethernet mort no longer works on this laptop
[03:38] <xkk> omgitsmit: FFS it was the thumb drive
[03:38] <omgitsmit> xkk: <3
[03:38] <AmyVictoria> port*
[03:38] <omgitsmit> xkk: story of my life
[03:38] <xkk> omgitsmit: IO errors like crazy on another machine. thank you for all the help! Been trying to debug this issue for the past ~6 hours lol
[03:39] <omgitsmit> whoa
[03:39] <ace2race> is there any way i can make my usb act like a cd?
[03:39] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria: without a cat5 cable, your ubuntu installation experience will likely be fraught with peril.
[03:39] <xkk> ace2race: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:40] <omgitsmit> xkk: they're on linux
[03:40] <xkk> ah
[03:40] <omgitsmit> ace2race: unetbootin isnt working for me
[03:40] <omgitsmit> ace2race: soemthings wrong.
[03:40] <ace2race> what?
[03:40] <xkk> ace2race: this one for Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[03:41] <pavlos> xkk, seems the actual usb is not working well ... can you try with another usb stick?
[03:41] <ace2race> i got ubuntu.. i want windows on a usb so i can boot from it
[03:41] <omgitsmit> pavlos: we've already determined that.
[03:41] <pavlos> k
[03:41] <AmyVictoria> six whole upgrade packages downloaded
[03:41] <cfhowlett> ace2race, use the windows tools to make windows media is the best policy
[03:42] <ace2race> do you mean wine
[03:42] <xangua> by using windows, he means windows
[03:42] <cfhowlett> ace2race, absolutely not.  ask ##windows how to make the windows USB
[03:43] <ace2race> but i only got ubuntu on my computers
[03:43] <xkk> ace2race: probably cannot do easilly from ubuntu
[03:44] <ace2race> i understand
[03:44] <omgitsmit> ace2race: unetbootin works for me on windows right now, but when i try to create it on my ubuntu laptop, it doesnt boot.
[03:44] <omgitsmit> ace2race: very strange, i wonder if there's something up with unetbootin?
[03:45] <ace2race> ubuntu helped my update my computer like a few weeks ago. i was on linux mint then
[03:45] <treelzebub> AmyVictoria: great! do you have a UI now?
[03:46] <omgitsmit> doh
[03:47] <omgitsmit> treelzebub: i figured it out, their session isnt loading. its a cache issue as i thought. the guest session working is a dead give away. (im learning yay!)
[03:49] <odsent_> can someone help me with libreoffice calc
[03:49] <odsent_> making a graph
[03:50] <cfhowlett> odsent_, libreoffice has a support channel.  best to go there
[03:50] <odsent_> uh where is it
[03:51] <cfhowlett> odsent_, www.libreoffice.org
[03:52] <cfhowlett> "Get Help" menu
[03:52] <rbrown_> anyone know if trusty is broken in terms of kickstart?
[03:52] <rbrown_> no matter what I keep getting prompt that I have multiple active nic's
[03:52] <rbrown_> and it wont automate the instal until I select the nic
[03:52] <ace2race> im trying to do this http://tweaks.com/windows/39415/how-to-install-windows-7-and-8-using-a-usb-flash-drive/ im stuck on step 2 or three
[03:52] <rbrown_> my preseed file has the nic set to auto
[03:53] <ace2race> and i dont have a cd all i got is the iso
[03:53] <eikon81g> can anyone point me to a channel that works with iphones and ipads?
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !phone | eikon81g
[03:53] <eikon81g> (sorry I am off topic a bit)
[03:53] <ace2race> #apple
[03:53] <eikon81g> let me check there, thank you
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !iphone
[03:54] <eikon81g> thanks all I will digg in
[03:54] <omgitsmit> we're not judging you. not at all.
[03:55] <eikon81g> lol, thanks..?
[03:55] <eikon81g> ?me blushes
[03:55]  * eikon81g blushes
[03:55] <ace2race> hey omgitsmit can you help me understand this?
[03:56] <ace2race> http://tweaks.com/windows/39415/how-to-install-windows-7-and-8-using-a-usb-flash-drive/
[03:56] <omgitsmit> im having some chrome pages crash when i have many open, i checked my swap and i had none. so i mkswap a new partition and swapon'ed it. but i still have the issue.
[03:56] <omgitsmit> nvm, swapon shows swap usage
[03:56] <omgitsmit> its full, i'll increase the partition.
[03:56] <omgitsmit> thanks omgitsmit
[03:57] <mines5> I have a very confusing conundrum on my hands
[03:57] <omgitsmit> Whats up mines5?
[03:57] <mines5> I need to run a vmware image in linux, but its not allowing me to open/install it properly
[03:58] <omgitsmit> mines5: open/install vmware?
[03:58] <omgitsmit> or the image itself
[03:58] <blackangelpr> ace2race, if you are on windows its easier to use http://www.linuxliveusb.com/   still why would you have that on a linux channel ^^
[03:58] <mines5> virt-manager gives me errors, and I tried running VMware from my windows partition via Wine but it failed.
[03:59] <omgitsmit> mines5: can you pastebin the virt-man errors?
[03:59] <ace2race> im not on windows im on ubuntu
[03:59] <mines5> yeah, give me a minute
[03:59] <ace2race> thats  why im confused
[03:59] <omgitsmit> mines5: ive recently started playing with qemu and kvm hypervisor, its a lot of fun :)
[04:00] <omgitsmit> mines5: i figured out how to get virt-manager X window over putty onto my windows box at work too!
[04:00] <mines5> It says something about not having search permissions
[04:00] <omgitsmit> mines5: pastbin?
[04:00] <omgitsmit> +e
[04:00] <mines5> posting it shortly
[04:02] <mines5> http://pastebin.com/9wcP6Rk7
[04:02] <omgitsmit> mines5: /media is tricky sometimes. ive had permission issues in the past. is there anyway you can move the vmware image over to your home folder where you have full permissions?
[04:03] <mines5> I did, and tried running it from there, but it didn't work.
[04:03] <omgitsmit> same exact error?
[04:03] <mines5> Let me attempt it again
[04:03] <omgitsmit> yeah pastebin that if you could too
[04:05] <mines5> do you happen to know how I can start it with virt-manager from a shell line?
[04:05] <omgitsmit> mines5: yes, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/FAQ
[04:05] <omgitsmit> mines5: it actually looks like we should convert it
[04:06] <mines5> potentially
[04:07] <omgitsmit> mines5: virsh list --all
[04:07] <omgitsmit> mines5: virsh start <name>
[04:08] <mines5> According to that page I need to convert the vmx to xml
[04:08] <omgitsmit> i would follow it, they know a heck of lot more than i :)
[04:08] <Addison_Wesley> congratulations guys: this is the only 100% active channel - everybody else is sleeping
[04:09] <omgitsmit> Addison_Wesley: how to kill a chat 101
[04:09] <Addison_Wesley> everytime i log on #ubuntu its full, open and vibrating
[04:09] <mines5> I could be mean and say this is off topic, but I'm not a total butt like some.
[04:09] <mines5> That sounds dirty.
[04:10] <Addison_Wesley> hehehhheeh
[04:10] <omgitsmit> mines5: i tend to off topic, but as long as its still having to do with what we're helping with.
[04:11] <Addison_Wesley> cya guys
[04:11] <mines5> I forgot the name of the chat that is allowed to go off-topic
[04:11] <yuvi> hi guys
[04:11] <mines5> Hello
[04:11] <omgitsmit> !ot | mines5
[04:11] <yuvi> i have one doubt in open cv code
[04:11] <yuvi> s,e,f,d = defects[i,0]                     start = tuple(cnt[s][0])                     end = tuple(cnt[e][0])                     far = tuple(cnt[f][0])                     dist = cv2.pointPolygonTest(cnt,centr,True)
[04:11] <mines5> I can't help you with code, good luck lol
[04:12] <yuvi> please some one assisit with that code
[04:13] <omgitsmit> yuvi: is that ubuntu related?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> yuvi, this is ubuntu support.  not coding support.
[04:13] <yuvi> ok ok
[04:13] <mines5> whats it for anyways?
[04:14] <mines5> Also, apparently I fixed it, but now it can't read the logical drive
[04:14] <omgitsmit> mines5: congrats?
[04:18] <mines5> break out the party favors :D
[04:18] <mines5> ITS ALIVE!
[04:18] <omgitsmit> mines5: we save that for important house guests, im sorry.
[04:18] <xkk> my laptop's 15" screen is 1920x1080 resolution.. can I ask Ubuntu to upscale things ?
[04:18] <xkk> e.g. my cursor, icons, text, are all very small
[04:18] <mines5> yes
[04:19] <mines5> increase the dpi
[04:19] <mines5> there is a setting for it somewhere, but there is something similar in windows for the exact same problem
[04:19] <newquickscopez> Hello
[04:19] <omgitsmit> Welcome newquickscopez
[04:20] <newquickscopez> I just installed ubuntu and im getting some crazy artifacts everywhere
[04:20] <mines5> what kinds?
[04:20] <omgitsmit> newquickscopez: thats odd, onboard graphics or a card?
[04:20] <newquickscopez> little red dots that are in perfect lines
[04:20] <newquickscopez> card. my cpu doesnt have onboard
[04:20] <omgitsmit> card overheating?
[04:21] <newquickscopez> Eh I doubt that. GTX 750
[04:21] <mines5> you may potentially need to find proper drivers if overheating isn't the problem
[04:21] <cfhowlett> !amd | newquickscopez
[04:21] <newquickscopez> Says I'm using some VESA bios thing
[04:21] <omgitsmit> .. so 750's never over-heat?
[04:21] <xkk> are you using nvidia drivers or open-source noveu ones ?
[04:21] <newquickscopez> I have no idea
[04:21] <mines5> ^
[04:22] <newquickscopez> VESA: BIOS-P/N@N10282
[04:22] <mines5> does anyone remember how to get to the menu for adding sources and such for installation
[04:22] <newquickscopez> I have a fan blowing directly on my 750 and good airflow. its probably good id think
[04:22] <mines5> he should be able to check for drivers there
[04:22] <mines5> probably is not certain
[04:22] <omgitsmit> mines5: you can get to it via software center
[04:22] <omgitsmit> mines5: update manager too
[04:23] <mines5> thats what I thought
[04:23] <mines5> I just forgot
[04:23] <omgitsmit> mines5: be a man and hack up your own 1337 hax sources.lst
[04:24] <newquickscopez> the one on the software center doesnt seem to be the newest
[04:24] <newquickscopez> still should be good?
[04:24] <mines5> maybe
[04:24] <mines5> I'd look to the web to see if your card has any drivers specific to linux
[04:24] <cfhowlett> newquickscopez, for newest, download from the OEM
[04:25] <cfhowlett> and, of course, search for the linux version
[04:26] <Basketball> i ran wget http://kdl.cc.ksosoft.com/wps-community/download/a16/wps-office_9.1.0.4945~a16p3_i386.deb and i am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/10594727/
[04:26] <newquickscopez> thanks
[04:27] <mines5> if it requires compiling make sure there are no errors while using the make command
[04:27] <mines5> otherwise you'll screw yourself in make install
[04:27]  * mines5 knows from personal experience
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Basketball, bad download.  dl again and perform a hash check before installing
[04:28] <mines5> I attempted to install sound card specific drivers for my laptop, and it failed in such a way it broke my sound
[04:28] <Basketball> cfhowlett, i have downloaded multiple times
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Basketball, note: you ARE downloading it from china.  strange things happen.
[04:28] <mines5> potential bad download source?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Basketball, and how many times did you hash check?
[04:29] <mines5> I never hash check personally
[04:29] <mines5> I should though
[04:35] <snufft> I'm making a custom ubuntu 14.10 installer with a more recent kernel that I want to use on two different devices. is there some kind of hardware check that I can use to tell the devices apart? can be before installation, during, or after (on first boot) if that helps :)
[04:35] <Basketball> cfhowlett, idk how to hash check
[04:35] <xkk> hmmm my trackpad is a bit buggery in Ubuntu -- right click seems weird/flaky
[04:36] <iyogeshjoshi> hi
[04:36] <iyogeshjoshi> I want to contribute to the ubuntu ..can any one guide me where to start with
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !contribute | iyogeshjoshi
[04:39] <mines5> Can you change kernels easily, or is it an arduous process?
[04:39] <iyogeshjoshi> ubottu, thanks :)
[04:39] <mines5> I have a feeling its not, because removing the kernel kills the system like ripping a heart would kill a human.
[04:40] <blackangelpr> mines5, could breake many things
[04:40] <iyogeshjoshi> ubottu, haha i'll :)
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Basketball, the official download site:  http://www.wps.com/linux/
[04:40] <Basketball> cfhowlett, i know
[04:41] <mines5> is it better than libre?
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Basketball, the download page shows the relevant sha1 hash.  open your terminal.  run sha1 against your downloaded .deb.  compare output to the listed hash from the download site.  if they match, then you're .deb is clean.  if not ...
[04:45] <Basketball> cfhowlett, how do i do it
[04:45] <cfhowlett> READ THE ABOVE !
[04:46] <cfhowlett> Basketball, also:   man sha1        in your terminal for command options
[04:47] <mines5> or tab x2 to get a list of available commands similar to what has already been typed
[04:47] <mines5> tab completion is one of my new favorite things
[04:51] <mines5> Does anyone know what <Super> is referring to in the Unity Tweak Tool?
[04:52] <mines5> Its under window spread
[04:54] <mines5> I can go without an answer, I'm off to sleep for now, I may ask it again in the future.
[04:55] <omgitsmit> mines5: super = windows key
[04:55] <mines5> Really?
[04:55] <mines5> That is nice to know
[04:56] <mines5> I remember having the ability to do what super + w does in ubuntu that super +tab did in fedora
[04:56] <mines5> anyways, I need to sleep, I bid you all farewell until next time.
[05:07] <nitrous_> hello
[05:08] <rypervenche> hi hi
[05:19] <neerajsohal> hello people
[05:19] <snufft> is it possible to create a new install disk of 14.10 with an updated kernel and some extra drivers attached?
[05:20] <omgitsmit> snufft: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[05:21] <snufft> omgitsmit, i had a go with the Ubuntu Customisation Kit but it only really lets me change language packs :| I'm not sure if I'm meant to get more joy from the Terminal step, but the terminal itself wouldn't work anyway :(
[05:21] <snufft> omgitsmit, thanks for the suggestion though :
[05:21] <snufft> :)
[05:29] <irnfoot495> my php has been upgraded to 5.5.22-1 but there seems tostill be a problem with reading the syntax. I would reallt appreciate some help with this. I'm giveing thanks in advance
[05:30] <rypervenche> irnfoot495: Reading what syntax? Of your code?
[05:31] <irnfoot495> reading a address book but when it gets to else if it crashes.
[05:31] <rypervenche> irnfoot495: This is not the correct channel for that. You will want to check in the PHP channel.
[05:31] <irnfoot495> rypervenche: oh ok thanks
[05:32] <rypervenche> irnfoot495: ##php I believe
[05:34] <irnfoot495> rypervenche: I just tried to get into a site but they say I have to have an invitation.
[05:34] <irnfoot495> ?????????
[05:34] <rypervenche> irnfoot495: I am able to get in. Do you have a registered account on Freenode?
[05:34] <irnfoot495> yes
[05:35] <irnfoot495> ok I'kk try double pound!
[05:35] <rypervenche> irnfoot495: You are not logged in right now as that user.
[05:35] <irnfoot495> as that user what do you mean?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !register | irnfoot495
[05:36] <irnfoot495> oh ok thanks will do!
[05:42] <mohsen_> hi
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> mohsen_: welcome
[05:43] <mohsen_> tnx
[05:45] <iyogeshjoshi> hey is there anyway to run IE and .NET on ubuntu? except visualization ?
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> iyogeshjoshi: wine or playonlinux maybe
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> iyogeshjoshi: check the wine database and the playonlinux database online
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !appd | iyogeshjoshi
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !appdb | iyogeshjoshi
[05:47] <iyogeshjoshi> i tried wine..it works but is slow and doesn't give proper performance
[05:47] <iyogeshjoshi> haven't tried playonlinux
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | iyogeshjoshi
[05:48]  * iyogeshjoshi looking for playonlinux on web
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> iyogeshjoshi: there are also firefox addons to switch agents (to make believe firefox its another browser), might be handy in some cases
[05:49] <iyogeshjoshi> thanks lotuspsychje :)
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> np
[05:50] <iyogeshjoshi> i want to use IE. Not for just testing :P
[05:50] <b0ss> hehehehe
[05:50] <b0ss> i'm using linux
[05:50] <b0ss> hehehehehe!
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> iyogeshjoshi: keep in mind that IE has some heavy security flaws, i would not reccomend daily use..
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> b0ss: keep it related to ubuntu support please
[05:51]  * b0ss farts loudly
[05:52] <iyogeshjoshi> lotuspsychje, I'm using IE for some development but not testing..for daily use Chrome and firefox are my fav
[05:52] <gordanblimp> how do i share a folder from one linux pc to another im on linux mint which is kinda the same but they are asleep over there
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !mint | gordanblimp
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> iyogeshjoshi: IE developement?
[05:54] <iyogeshjoshi> lotuspsychje, I am working on some project which need both IE and .NET for running, but I don't want to use windows os
[05:54] <iyogeshjoshi> thats why looking for some way to run on ubuntu
[05:54]  * iyogeshjoshi just love to use ubuntu 
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> iyogeshjoshi: ok smart choice, i think your best bet is playonlinux or virtualbox
[05:55] <iyogeshjoshi> yep i'm also betting on them only :)
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> gordanblimp: install ubuntu 14.04 and we will help you share files :p
[05:59] <mopia> iyogeshjoshi: What are you using that requires IE?
[05:59] <gordanblimp> lotuspsychje: its ok its not hard its just a simple thing im not doing
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !info monodevelop | iyogeshjoshi maybe this could be handy too
[05:59] <maziar> please help me http://serverfault.com/questions/675436/juju-juju-bootstrap-in-container-uoi-bootstrap10-0-3-147
[06:00] <iyogeshjoshi> morpia, its just a freelance project
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !info juju | maziar
[06:00] <iyogeshjoshi> lotuspdychje, cool man thanks :)
[06:01] <maziar> lotuspsychje, what do you mean ?
[06:01] <mopia> iyogeshjoshi: I mean "What technology is being used that requires IE to run?"
[06:03] <iyogeshjoshi> mopia, its just clients requirement to run, debug and test on IE
[06:04] <mopia> iyogeshjoshi: Well IE will not work under Wine. You could dual boot, or you could use a VM.
[06:05] <omgitsmit> iyogeshjoshi: i installed IE with winetricks
[06:05] <mopia> omgitsmit: Does all of it work? :-)
[06:06] <maziar> lotuspsychje, what do you mean ?
[06:06] <omgitsmit> well, it loads. and i can browse, so yeah.
[06:07] <mopia> did you try all the tests for it like acid etc?
[06:07] <iyogeshjoshi> mopia, I hate window so just avoiding to make dual boot with windows on my system
[06:07] <iyogeshjoshi> VM is looking a good option
[06:09] <encoded> I am the passenger And I ride and I ride I ride through the citys backside I see the stars come out of the sky Yeah, theyre bright in a hollow sky You know it looks so good tonight
[06:11] <maziar> please help me http://serverfault.com/questions/675436/juju-juju-bootstrap-in-container-uoi-bootstrap10-0-3-147
[06:13] <mopia> iyogeshjoshi: One issue you will have with debugging your backend is that you have it do it old style by inserting print satements; you can't run a debugger on the *nix machine that can breakpoint or inspect the runinng code on the windows server. That aside it should work :-)
[06:15] <iyogeshjoshi> mopia, I already figured that out :P
[06:16] <iyogeshjoshi> thats a pain
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> maziar: is this what you experience? http://askubuntu.com/questions/484166/machines-required-juju-bootstrap
[06:22] <maziar> lotuspsychje, when you dont know what i am asking, why do you answer ? i want to install openstack and i use this link  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack , if you know nothing please be
[06:23] <mutual> Is there any benefit to upgrading to 15.04 early? (from 14.10)
[06:23] <mutual> and if so, how do I do so?
[06:24] <mopia> 15.04 isn't finalised yet and has some bugs.
[06:24] <omgitsmit> if you want a working system, i wouldnt upgrade just yet.
[06:24] <mutual> ok
[06:24] <mutual> i just saw that mesa 10.5 is in 15.04
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> !15.04
[06:24] <mutual> would I see significant improvements with that?
[06:25] <mutual> lotuspsychje, thanks, didn't realize there's a separate channel for that
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> mutual: np :p
[06:26] <maziar> lotuspsychje, when you dont know what i am asking, why do you answer ? i want to install openstack and i use this link  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack , if you know nothing please be quiet
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !patience | maziar
[06:26] <mutual> lotuspsychje, you have all the !s ;)
[06:27] <bazhang> !find openstack
[06:27] <omgitsmit> rekt
[06:27] <maziar> lotuspsychje, shut up
[06:27] <bazhang> maziar, lose the attitude
[06:28] <mutual> maziar, this is a chat room full of volunteers
[06:28] <bazhang> maziar, if you wish to install openstack, do so, see above for packages
[06:30] <maziar> bazhang, im followed that link in ubuntu web site http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack ,,, and i have a problem , if you know my answer please answer if you dont know about openstack please be quiet ,,,, this is my post : http://askubuntu.com/questions/596621/juju-juju-bootstrap-in-container-uoi-bootstrap10-0-3-147 on ubuntu.com
[06:31] <bazhang> maziar, please be civil here, for one: there is no help me or be quiet situation here, ever
[06:31] <mutual> maziar I would recommend not telling others to "be quiet", it is impolite and probably violating channel rules
[06:32] <mopia> in his defence, it is quite annoying when people provide utterly random answers to a question becuase they dont know the answer
[06:32] <bazhang> nope
[06:32] <bazhang> thats no excuse at all
[06:33] <mutual> mopia, two wrongs don't make a right
[06:33] <mutual> though three lefts do make a right ;)
[06:34] <mopia> and two wrights make an airplane
[06:34] <mopia> but in all seiousness, if both thigns are wrong, both should get a talking to, not just one
[06:36] <mutual> mopia, none of us are in a position to do "talking to"
[06:36] <mopia> You were doing it  earlier :-)
[06:36]  * b0ss takes a shit upon the head of mutual
[06:37]  * b0ss groans
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !ops | b0ss
[06:37] <b0ss> lmao
[06:37] <b0ss> snitch
[06:37]  * phunyguy looks up
[06:37]  * mutual o.o
[06:37] <b0ss> snitches get stiches
[06:38] <mutual> mopia, i wasn't here when lotuspsychje "answered without knowing"
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> mutual: ?
[06:39] <mutual> nvm
[06:46] <g-maurizi> I have ddwrt set as dhcp forwarder sending requests to a master dnsmasq dhcp server, dnsmasq.conf has ranges for each subnet declared, clients behind relay don't get leases, any help? anyone?
[06:55] <azizLIGHT> lotus
[06:55] <azizLIGHT> did lotuspsychje leave
[07:12] <johnhunter> Hi
[07:13] <rypervenche> Hello
[07:19] <johnhunter> I am wondering why I got 'Cannot send to channel' message when I try to send something. Can anybody help
[07:20] <johnhunter> and the channel is #dri-devel
[07:21] <rww> johnhunter: they block users who aren't identified to NickServ from talking. /join #freenode for further discussion of that sort of thing, we only handle Ubuntu itself here :)
[07:22] <johnhunter> fine
[07:22] <johnhunter> thanks anyway
[07:23] <rypervenche> johnhunter: That was the answer...
[07:23] <arkie> hey can someone help me setting up a crontab?
[07:24] <rypervenche> arkie: Sure, what do you need?
[07:24] <arkie> so ive installed this on my ubuntu LAMP droplet with digitalocean
[07:24] <arkie> https://github.com/digitalmethodsinitiative/dmi-tcat/wiki/Install-Guide
[07:25] <arkie> im up to the "install crontab" part but im a little confused
[07:25] <arkie> would i just type crontab -e in my root directory?
[07:26] <rypervenche> arkie: Not at root.
[07:26] <rypervenche> arkie:  Make sure you edit the crontab as the user (-u username) for which you made dmi-tcat/logs, dmi-tcat/proc and dmi-tcat/analysis/cache writeable (for example: www-data).
[07:26] <arkie> so i used www-data
[07:26] <arkie> should i be in a specific directory when i do this though rypervenche ?
[07:27] <rypervenche> arkie: No. The cronjob has you moving to that directory and then running the PHP script.
[07:27] <arkie> this directory? cd /var/www/dmi-tcat/capture/stream/; php controller.php
[07:28] <rypervenche> Yep, the cronjob will move to that directory and then run the PHP script.
[07:28] <arkie> okay
[07:29] <arkie> so ill just do crontjob -e right now?
[07:29] <arkie> and then follow the steps?
[07:29] <arkie> crontab*
[07:31] <rypervenche> arkie: Yep yep. You'll need to run "crontab -eu www-data"
[07:31] <Bryanstein> Does anyone know a way to have udev ignore a device once it's plugged in(other than ignore_device which is deprecated)?
[07:32] <arkie> so that just takes me into this rypervenche  /tmp/crontab.DtgmB8/crontab
[07:33] <arkie> so i just add * * * * * (cd /var/www/dmi-tcat/capture/stream/; php controller.php)
[07:33] <arkie> to that file?
[07:33] <nikhil> Last night I installed ubuntu 14.1 but I realized that my Graphic card memory was 256mb rather than 768mb
[07:34] <nikhil> So I wanted to install drivers for that but I couldn't find any
[07:34] <rypervenche> arkie: Yep
[07:34] <nikhil> when I installed intel drivers on windows it increased from 256 to 768 mb
[07:35] <cfhowlett> nikhil, the card make/model?
[07:35] <rypervenche> arkie: Once it verifies that the syntax is correct, it will update the actual crontab file.
[07:35] <choki> How do I set 775 on newly created files?
[07:35] <nikhil> intel inbuilt
[07:35] <choki> chmod?
[07:35] <nikhil> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7d3b42eb405b509731b9
[07:35] <cfhowlett> nikhil, suggestion: download the linux graphic installer from Intel, then run the install function
[07:36] <nikhil> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4e6b1664c5ef59368254
[07:36] <rypervenche> choki: YOu can change your umask in /etc/login.defs
[07:36] <nikhil> I did that but it's not supporting
[07:36] <rypervenche> choki: Change it to 002
[07:36] <cfhowlett> nikhil, how about "additional drivers" utility in ubuntu?
[07:36] <rypervenche> choki: That will be for all users though.
[07:36] <nikhil> it show nothing
[07:36] <choki> rypervenche: but i only want this to one folder
[07:36] <nikhil> shows*
[07:37] <rypervenche> choki: Then use chmod 775 foldername
[07:37] <arkie> how do i ensure that it is correct rypervenche ?
[07:37] <nikhil> no additional drivers available it seems
[07:37] <choki> rypervenche: but this doesnt work on new files created in there
[07:37] <choki> i dont want to do it again and again
[07:38] <cfhowlett> nikhil, exactly what intel card do you have?
[07:38] <rypervenche> choki: For that you would need to set a default ACL.
[07:38] <nikhil> its an inbuilt one
[07:38] <nikhil> G41 Express
[07:40] <arkie> rypervenche, how do i know it has not updated the actual crontab file?
[07:40] <maziar_> i want to create server for my config file's is there any "how to" or toturial about this ?
[07:40] <nikhil> brb
[07:40] <choki> rypervenche: `setfacl -d -m u:nobody:rwx,g:nogroup:rwx,o::r-x shared_dir` why are there 2 :: after the o?
[07:41] <rww> maziar_: please only use #ubuntu OR #debian, depending on if you're using Ubuntu or Debian, don't crosspost to both.
[07:42] <rypervenche> choki: I think because there is no user or group associated with it.
[07:43] <choki> rypervenche: oh thanks, you are right!
[07:43] <rypervenche> arkie: If you used crontab, it will have updated it. YOu can look at the contents of the actual crontab file, I think it's at /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username
[07:44] <arkie> www-data is there
[07:45] <arkie> i cant go into it though, says its not a directory
[07:45] <rypervenche> arkie: It is a file.
[07:45] <rypervenche> arkie: sudo cat /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data
[07:49] <arkie> kay
[07:49] <arkie> okay rypervenche
[07:49] <arkie> i see # m h  dom mon dow   command
[07:49] <arkie> * * * * * (cd /var/www/dmi-tcat/capture/stream/; php controller.php) at the bottom
[07:49] <arkie> so that means it worked?
[07:49] <rypervenche> Yep
[07:50] <arkie> cool
[07:50] <arkie> thanks
[07:50] <arkie> :)
[07:51] <rypervenche> No problem.
[07:53] <arkie> rypervenche, what exactly do the * * * * * represent?
[07:53] <rypervenche> arkie: It means once a minute.
[07:54] <arkie> how does that work?
[07:54] <arkie> :/
[07:55] <rypervenche> arkie: month, hour, day of month, month, day of week
[07:55] <rww> arkie: cron runs once a minute and checks if it's supposed to execute each crontab entry
[07:55] <rypervenche> arkie: * means any/every.
[07:56] <arkie> so basically, it is running controller.php every minute?
[07:56] <rww> yes
[08:01] <andria> Bonjour à tous !
[08:01] <andria> Merci gniourf pour le travail d'hier :) Parfait !
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !fr | andria
[08:01] <andria> oups sorry wrong channel
[08:23] <sabgenton_laptop>   anyone know  how to  change   the location of /boot/grub/env
[08:23] <sabgenton_laptop> other than symlinking
[08:34] <pavelz> hi all how is that possible when I do dpkg -l |grep postgres I still have packages listed even though apt-get remove says they aren't?
[08:39] <evgenii> Hi All
[08:41] <evgenii> The brightness of my laptop is reset to Max on every restart, is it normally?
[08:41] <evgenii> in xubuntu
[08:43] <cfhowlett> evgenii, same here.  just dial it down.
[08:46] <indistylo> On Thursday, I upgraded Ubuntu from LTS 12.04 to 14.04 LTS, Its been 2 days juggling up to restore my laptop to normal, I have exhausted nearly all suggestions listed on Ubuntuforums, IRC, Askubuntu ,other Internet sites, but to no rescue I am at same page. Please suggest some measure in order to restore the Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to normal or 12.04.  I am using Toshiba L640, i5 core 2 Duo, ATI Radeon 5145 graphics inbuilt with Intel c
[08:49] <evgenii> i asked only That is default action to not save brightness on every restart in xubuntu
[08:49] <evgenii> sry for my bad anguage
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> evgenii  open dconf-editor, then ctrl-f and search 'bright'... see if you find something useful
[08:50] <cfhowlett> indistylo, "normal"?
[08:51] <indistylo> cfhowlett: Yes back to default settings, With PROPER gui based interface
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> indistylo  what is 'proper' to you?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, = "not unity"???
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> oh
[08:53] <indistylo> cfhowlett: Read full text here
[08:53] <indistylo> cfhowlett: Read full text here http://paste.ubuntu.com/10595648/
[08:54] <indistylo> MonkeyDust: Dont make game play, If you are serious for solving the issue at hand then read ful text here http://paste.ubuntu.com/10595648/ else please dont bother to disturb me or do some leg pulling
[08:54] <cfhowlett> indistylo, message read.
[08:54] <cristian_c> Hello
[08:54] <cristian_c> I own a tp-link tl-ps310u. I've configured it and I've added the printer via system-config-printer, but when I try to print, after few seconds the print is stuck
[08:55] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:55] <indistylo> cfhowlett: So can you suggest something?
[08:55] <indistylo> cfhowlett: In my view its fglrx driver problem
[08:56] <cfhowlett> indistylo, you have intel and ATI, so I'd guess it might be a graphics issue.  I only have nvidia experience on xubuntu so can't offer any suggestions.
[08:57] <indistylo> cfhowlett: can you say something about, login-loop problem?
[08:58] <indistylo> I can resolve that graphics problem myself, BUT for that i need access to terminal, I am stuck with login loop problem when i press CTRL+ALT+F1 -F6
[08:58] <EriC^> indistylo, login loop problem?
[09:00] <EriC^> does it login and say welcome ubuntu etc.  etc. then show the login prompt again?
[09:01] <indistylo> Any solution providers to this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/10595648/
[09:02] <cfhowlett> indistylo, erich^ is trying to troubleshoot with you.
[09:02] <indistylo> cfhowlett: Thanks for bringing that to my notice
[09:03] <guillermo> hi
[09:03] <indistylo> EriC^: Yes it does shows same screen again
[09:03] <EriC^> indistylo, you probably have an empty shell or /bin/false as the shell
[09:04] <MonkeyDust> evgenii  keep it in the channel, please
[09:04] <indistylo> Welcome to ubuntu and ask for username and password, even its not accepting my own default username or password or root password. Let alone any other task
[09:04] <EriC^> indistylo, boot into recovery mode and check the shell with cat /etc/passwd , and if it's correct then it might be a problem with something in your .bashrc or something
[09:05] <evgenii> ok, Hi, who knows, where is bool parameter of (saving current brightness monitor on every reboot)
[09:05] <evgenii> my os is xubuntu
[09:06] <lyndel4> [04:59:47] <lyndel4> and now my browers both firefix and chrome acting weird the ootion to show site information keeps opening on its own it almost feels like keys are being pressed that am unaware of
[09:06] <EriC^> indistylo, are you able to login, get the motd then reset t the login prompt? or it doesn't accept the login at all?
[09:06] <lyndel4> hello
[09:06] <indistylo> EriC^: I cant do any typing, because shell on CTRL+ALT+F1 is not allowing any value to enter. For that recovery option i have tried it puts me on system problem due to graphics problem, I am on same page again. No access to shell/terminal as there on blank screen
[09:06] <lyndel4> i seem to be having a problem shuting down my labtop its getting stuck telling me its waiting for something to stop and system will be shuting down but no mater how long i wait it never shuts down unless i use the power button which is something i really rather avoid doing,  i also notice strange characters on the screen even when i use the terminal and install some program during the install in terminal the characters would show the installed app will work
[09:07] <EriC^> indistylo, boot your kernel that you use with the graphics options that work and add init=/bin/bash at the end of it
[09:08] <EriC^> you'll get a root prompt, then mount the filesystem in rw, mount -o remount,rw /
[09:08] <lyndel4> do u mean for me Eric?
[09:08] <EriC^> and fix stuff from there
[09:08] <EriC^> lyndel4, no
[09:08] <lyndel4> oh
[09:09] <indistylo> I tried all the old kernels but all of them giving same message again, I just want to acess to terminal which is a minimal and first task which i should have access to do any thing
[09:09] <EriC^> indistylo, it will give you a root terminal
[09:10] <indistylo> EriC^: I tried boot from that kernel too, but to no rescue i am back at same page. I have no clue from where to enter into terminal
[09:10] <lyndel4> no one else thats online that can help me whike eric deals with the other guy?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !patience | lyndel4,
[09:10] <EriC^> indistylo, did you try booting the recovery mode from grub?
[09:11] <lyndel4> yeah but was just wondering thats all
[09:11] <yurick> buzz!!
[09:11] <lyndel4> lol
[09:11] <indistylo> EriC^: yes
[09:11] <bazhang> take a screenshot of it lyndel4
[09:11] <mopia> lyndel4: You can try to force acpi off in grub
[09:11] <EriC^> indistylo, ok what happened?
[09:11] <EriC^> indistylo, did you choose drop to root shell?
[09:12] <indistylo> EriC^: I tried to boot form recovery several times to reach some solution, but every time i return failed with no access to terminal
[09:12] <evgenii> what happens with my power manager, i cant find how save brightness monitor on every reboot
[09:12] <Gape> Hello, after I let ubuntu update itself, my secondary monitor connected to intel hd4000 isn't detected anymore. (my primary monitor is connected to deticated nvidia gpu), it used to work before and it works fine in windows .. any idea what I could do?
[09:12] <lyndel4> how will that help
[09:12] <EriC^> indistylo, you should choose drop to root shell to get a terminal
[09:12] <indistylo> No root shell is coming
[09:12] <EriC^> indistylo, so you did choose drop to root shell?
[09:13] <indistylo> only blank screen appears
[09:13] <bazhang> lyndel4, help troubleshoot, thats how
[09:13] <mopia> lyndel4: When you select shutdown your desktop shuts down, you get white text on a black screen saying 'waiting for <something> to close' and it hangs there until you use the power button?
[09:13] <indistylo> I may get back to you, let me try once more
[09:13] <lyndel4> yes
[09:14] <EriC^> indistylo, ok, so then it's probably a graphics issue right? and the kernel/kernel options you use right now get you a tty right? use that kernel but modify the kernel line with init=/bin/bash , you should get a root shell
[09:14] <bazhang> lyndel4, your own description is impossible to understand as is
[09:14] <indistylo> signing off
[09:14] <lyndel4> i will have to take a screen shot tomomow
[09:14] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu is this lyndel4
[09:14] <mopia> lyndel4: In my experience, that's usually an ACPI issue. ACPI is the power management/controller in the firmware.
[09:15] <mopia> Im betting it has 3.16 kernel
[09:15] <lyndel4> i dont know if its possible tho might just use a camura
[09:15] <indistylo> EriC^: Thanks i will do that, but where till i remem i have already done that settings long time ago
[09:15] <bazhang> lyndel4, come back when you can fully troubleshoot/answer questions give info
[09:15] <mopia> When they upgraded from 3.13 to 3.16, there is a shutdown issue similar to this
[09:16] <EriC^> indistylo, press e over the kernel, go to the line with linux vmlinuz ...... quiet splash, and add init=/bin/bash to the end, then press ctrl+x
[09:16] <lyndel4> its a modified version called Elementary OS as unity took much resources so i forced to use a alternative
[09:16] <EriC^> indistylo, when you get a root shell, type mount -o remount,rw /
[09:16] <mopia> You should get a screenshot with your phone. Press escape to kill the desktop and see the terminal under it.
[09:16] <evgenii> os: xubuntu ; xfce4-power-manager. if this control  power, where change bool var of (saving current brightness monitor for next session)
[09:16] <indistylo> ok
[09:16] <bazhang> thats not supported here lyndel4
[09:16] <EriC^> indistylo, then check what shell you have set for your user using cat /etc/passwd , if it's blank or /bin/false use chsh -s /bin/bash <your user> to set it
[09:16] <bazhang> !elementary | lyndel4
[09:17] <cfhowlett> lyndel4, ask elementary for support
[09:18] <Gape> Sorry for repeating, but not sure if anyone has seen my question with so many other posts: after I let ubuntu update itself, my secondary monitor connected to intel hd4000 isn't detected anymore. (my primary monitor is connected to deticated nvidia gpu), it used to work before and it works fine in windows .. any idea what I could do?
[09:18] <lyndel4> was thinking that since its a ubuntu type os the issuse would of been related but fine al try someplace else thats again
[09:21] <mopia> lyndel4: Good luck with it. When you find elementary support, tell them I htink it's a 3.16 kernel acpi issue. I think they're based on an 14.04 which upgraded to 3.16 so now I'm very sure this is the acpi bug
[09:22] <lyndel4> thanks :)
[09:22] <mopia> One day we will get power management, dual screen and dual gpu working properly on linux!
[09:23] <bekks> works4me.
[09:23] <evgenii> be cool
[09:23] <Gape> running lshw -c video lists 2 things, but the intel one only says 'display controller' and not 'vga compatible controller' as it does on nvidia card .. could that be related'
[09:25] <Gape> Also running "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'" shows 2 drivers, both nvidia and intel
[09:26] <mopia> bekks: I wish I was you then. :-) My SLI doesn't work on Linux, and dual monitor for me is intermittent.
[09:27] <evgenii> Hi people, why /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness sets to max on every restart xubuntu 14.04
[09:28] <bekks> evgenii: Because /sys is a runtime filesystem, and those values arent stored permanently.
[09:28] <bongma> how do we eject the dvd drive in Lubuntu without touching it?
[09:28] <AndChat734064> Hey guys. anyone here managed to get vaapi encoding working?
[09:29] <bekks> bongma: unmount it and use "eject".
[09:29] <evgenii> bekks, ty
[09:30] <EriC^> evgenii, you could put a script in your .profile that sets it to what you want when ubuntu starts
[09:32] <evgenii> EriC^, i dont want to write a script, i think that power manager has bool var
[09:32] <evgenii> to change this
[09:33] <cfhowlett> AndChat734064, vaapi is still not showing as an option in avconv.  your best bet; trasnmageddon from source.  good luck.
[09:33] <EriC^> evgenii, you think that there's a setting that lets it save it across reboots?
[09:33] <bekks> evgenii: you cannot change values in /sys permanently.
[09:33] <AndChat734064> T
[09:34] <cfhowlett> AndChat734064, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26000606/how-do-you-get-ffmpeg-to-encode-with-vaapi
[09:34] <bongma> bekks: unmount it from where?? from fileman?
[09:34] <bekks> bongma: Either from fileman or from a terminal.
[09:35] <AndChat734064> Transmageddon cannot invoke vaapi even with the newest gstreamer-vaapi package :/ Its sad because its the only thing keeping me tied to Windows.
[09:36] <bekks> AndChat734064: Thats why have to recompile it from source.
[09:36] <cfhowlett> AndChat734064, well, ffmpeg will return to ubuntu repos in 14.05 IIRC.  might be worth directing your question to the ffmpeg team
[09:36] <cfhowlett> *15.04*
[09:37] <AndChat734064> recompile transmageddon or vaapi?
[09:38] <bekks> AndChat734064: cfhowlett told you: "your best bet: transmaggedon from source."
[09:38] <deardeath> Hello guys I have a problem. I went out and came back for like 10 minutes and my ubuntu was locked.
[09:38] <deardeath> When I entered my password and unlocked it, I was unable to access my already open programs. For instance Firefox.
[09:39] <deardeath> I even tried to close them and open them again, but I can't get the windows open even though the application is starting.
[09:39] <deardeath> Any ideas?
[09:39] <EriC^> deardeath, try setsid compiz
[09:39] <agus_sintang> maybe, in another workspace
[09:40] <deardeath> it says the screen 0 is on display and gives an error.
[09:41] <Gape> Sorry for repeating, but not sure if anyone has seen my question with so many other posts: after I let ubuntu update itself, my secondary monitor connected to intel hd4000 isn't detected anymore. (my primary monitor is connected to deticated nvidia gpu), it used to work before and it works fine in windows .. any idea what I could do?
[09:41] <Gape> running lshw -c video lists 2 things, but the intel one only says 'display controller' and not 'vga compatible controller' as it does on nvidia card .. could that be related'
[09:41] <Gape> Also running "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'" shows 2 drivers, both nvidia and intel
[09:41] <mopia> Gape: You have one screen on each adapter, or both off the same one?
[09:41] <EriC^> deardeath, compiz --replace , maybe?
[09:42] <Gape> mopia: one on each (because both discrete gpu and integrated only offer one DVI port)
[09:42] <deardeath> okay
[09:42] <deardeath> turns out it had a window for each my VGA and DMI entrance
[09:42] <mopia> Gape: I see, you have the same problem I have. Twin GPU and one screen on each. if you ever get this sorted, I'd love to know the fix!
[09:42] <deardeath> I closed the VGA and it works fine.
[09:42] <EriC^> deardeath, like agus_sintang said it could be in another screen or workspace, do you have dual monitors?
[09:43] <EriC^> yeah, if that happens the arrow becomes empty
[09:43] <Gape> mopia: it used to work well without any manual settings until I let software updater do it's thing 2 weeks ago
[09:43] <EriC^> that means it's open on another monitor or something
[09:43] <EriC^> or workspace
[09:43] <deardeath> Yeah I know what workspace is.
[09:43] <deardeath> There used to be an easy way to swap inbetween. Is that still possible?
[09:44] <EriC^> yeah, just telling you about the empty arrow thing
[09:44] <EriC^> i dont know, hold the super button for a shortcuts list
[09:44] <Ullarah> Out of curiosity, what do people use for their system font?
[09:45] <mopia> Ullarah: Default for me
[09:47] <jatt> Consolas and Ubuntu
[10:03] <jlim> hey guys
[10:04] <jlim> is it just me or has anybody else not gotten any security updates since last year for 14.04 lts?
[10:04] <Ben64> just you
[10:04] <jlim> why?
[10:04] <Ben64> how would i know
[10:04] <jlim> great thanks for the help ben
[10:04] <xxxxxxxxxx> #freenode
[10:05] <ysangkok> how can i know if a specific commit will be backported? im thinking about https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/656bfa3afc14e45e2d9e1624bf60d79b3beb12f2
[10:05] <xxxxxxxxxx> join #freenode
[10:05] <Ben64> jlim: i'm not a mind reader, i can't see your computer, you've given no information, i don't know what you expect me to do
[10:05] <Ben64> xxxxxxxxxx: /join #freenode
[10:05] <sideof> im trying to do some administrative tasks on thee pc. someone told me unmount swap from live dvd.  is that the same as swapoff?
[10:05] <xxxxxxxxxx> thannks ben64
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> jlim  system settings > software & updates > updates
[10:05] <Ben64> sideof: yep
[10:05] <ysangkok> sideof: yes
[10:06] <xxxxxxxxxx> can anyone help me resizing partition?
[10:06] <tuxakadjseb> With gparted ?
[10:06] <xxxxxxxxxx> yeah gparted
[10:06] <ysangkok> xxxxxxxxxx: what is your actual problem
[10:06] <xxxxxxxxxx> now i am with live boot
[10:06] <jlim> ysangkok: updates says to date but all i ever get is software updates. not security updates
[10:06] <xxxxxxxxxx> for resizing the partition
[10:07] <jlim> ysangkok: update says computer is up to date
[10:07] <ysangkok> jlim: check your software sources, maybe the updates are unchecked
[10:07] <jlim> ysangkok: nope already looked at that
[10:08] <Ben64> jlim: what is the output of "uname -a"
[10:08] <jlim> Ben64: one sec
[10:09] <xxxxxxxxxx> ysangkok: will u plz help me?
[10:10] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:10] <xxxxxxxxxx> anyone?
[10:10] <ysangkok> xxxxxxxxxx: no unless you tell me the concrete details of your problem, what you have tried, why it doesn't work, what you think the problem might be, why you cannot solve it yourself, and why you think i am able to help you
[10:10] <jlim> Ben64: 3.13.0-40-generic #69-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 13 17:53:56 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:11] <Ben64> jlim: well that kernel is newer than the one 14.04 shipped with, so i'd call that a security update
[10:11] <tuxakadjseb> What is the problem xxxxxxxxxx ?
[10:11] <ysangkok> xxxxxxxxxx: don't pm me
[10:11] <xxxxxxxxxx> ysangkok: i am new to ubuntu so
[10:11] <jlim> Ben64: i had gotten some security updates. but i have not gotten any since last year
[10:12] <jlim> Ben64: almost 4 months now
[10:12] <jlim> Ben64: only software updates
[10:12] <ysangkok> xxxxxxxxxx: 99% of all ubuntu users don't need to repartition after installing... i think you think you need something you don't need
[10:12] <bekks> jlim: How do you know that exactly?
[10:12] <bekks> jlim: Which package containing a security update are you missing in particular?
[10:13] <jlim> because i look to see what updates are being installed
[10:13] <bekks> jlim: And can you pastebin "sudo apt-get update" please?
[10:13] <Ben64> jlim: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy bash libc6 firefox linux-image-generic"
[10:13] <ysangkok> jlim: can you please paste "lsb_release -a"
[10:13] <bekks> The list of packages going to be installed dont tel you anything about "this is a security update or not".
[10:13] <jlim> Ben64: because I always pay attention to what updates are being installed
[10:13] <xxxxxxxxxx> ysangkok: i am use to with windows so.... now joined for ubuntu....  i thought to have separate partition in as windows.. for keeping personal files an documents
[10:14] <ysangkok> xxxxxxxxxx: the installer will take of that , i believe, no need to fiddle with gparted
[10:14] <sideof> oik i have some unallocated partitions here that i want to partition to ext4 in gparted , what do i do nw?
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> xxxxxxxxxx  you can create a separate /home partition
[10:15] <jlim> where do i paste bin?
[10:15] <ysangkok> jlim: gist.github.com
[10:15] <jlim> url?
[10:15] <ysangkok> jlim: http://gist.github.com/
[10:19] <jlim> Ben64: its comming. a lot of output
[10:25] <jlim> Ben64: buffer ran out. terminal can display entire output
[10:26] <jlim> Ben64: i can paste bin what i have
[10:27] <sideof> how do we combine two partitions as one in gparted?
[10:27] <Ben64> jlim: shouldn't be that long
[10:27] <bekks> !pastebinit | jlim
[10:27] <TheNumb> sideof: you delete one and expand the other.
[10:27] <TheNumb> or delete both and create a new partition
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> sideof  backup first
[10:28] <jlim> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6f0a532d3d6399d305c5
[10:29] <jlim> Ben64: it is long
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> jlim  that's a lot of ppa's!!
[10:29] <jlim> lol
[10:30] <Ben64> jlim: that is a lot of PPAs..... but you should use a different/better mirror
[10:30] <jlim> ok
[10:30] <Ben64> not sure how legit "mirrors.ccs.neu.edu" is
[10:31] <jlim> what good are ppa's if you can't use em'? lol
[10:31] <Ben64> shouldn't have to
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> jlim  avoid ppa's as much as possible
[10:33] <jlim> well if canonical did a better job of keeping the software in the software center up to date i wouldn't have to use ppa's
[10:34] <Ben64> first off, you're not using a canonical repository, secondly, Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit
[10:34] <mopia> jlim: Isn't there an ubuntu daily now?
[10:34] <jlim> wow
[10:35] <jlim> a lot of security updates
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> !latest| jlim
[10:35] <jlim> Ben64: thanx
[10:35] <sideof> thenumb:to expand would be to right click and then resize/move?
[10:36] <jlim> mopia: daily now? is that a source?
[10:37] <TheNumb> sideof: most likely
[10:40] <kauwa> why zuzu quit
[10:40] <jlim> Ben64: i get they phylosophy about stability verses latest software. but some package are down right ancient. no excuse for that
[10:41] <Ben64> what is ancient?
[10:42] <jlim> i can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head but there are times when shake my head when i see how some of the packages that want to install are
[10:42] <jlim> how old*
[10:43] <dreamcat4> they situation with ubuntu is usually better than it is on debian (r.e. old packages)
[10:44] <jlim> dreamcat4: it sure is
[10:44] <dreamcat4> and ubuntun, if the official package is too old there is more often the option of using a PPA instead
[10:44] <dreamcat4> which is again... beter than on debian where you don't normally have access to use those 3rd party PPAs
[10:45] <jlim> i think canonical's focus on ubuntu phone has left the desktop with very little support
[10:45] <bekks> Nonsense.
[10:45] <EriC^> indeed nonsense
[10:45] <jlim> along with the software center
[10:45] <bekks> jlim: Even more nonsense.
[10:46] <Ben64> nonsense and not really on topic
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> jlim  drop the rants please, we get your point
[10:46] <SCHAAP137> good morning everyone
[10:46] <bekks> jlim: you were using horribly outdated mirrors, and shoud stop complaining about your fault.
[10:46] <jlim> bekks: i agree.. i can't believe i had that mirror set. i usually have a different mirror.
[10:48] <zinjibar> hi
[10:48] <interprog> Hello
[10:48] <zinjibar> Hello
[10:48] <zinjibar> what is this how to use
[10:48] <interprog> Use what?
[10:48] <zinjibar> this chattt
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> zinjibar  this is the ubuntu support channel
[10:49] <zinjibar> so it is working
[10:49] <Ben64> ask an ubuntu support related question, get an answer, etc
[10:49] <jlim> bekks: and i can't believe i didn't think of checking the mirror. I would that that would been the first thing i would have checked when i realized the was some problem.... sheesh
[10:49] <interprog> Just type and ask question. Yes, it's working.
[10:49] <zinjibar> ok thanks MonkeyDust
[10:50] <mopia> jlim: A lot of the stuff in Universe might be outdated (like eclipse) but that's not strictly ubuntu core.
[10:50] <zinjibar> what is terminal ? can't use google chrome ... in this ubuntu
[10:50] <interprog> Anyway, I just wanna ask which is the good and small web browser other than Firefox and Chrome?
[10:50] <jlim> some times it takes a fresh set of eyes to show you the problem that is staring you right in the face!! lol
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> interprog  midori
[10:50] <interprog> Terminal is an emulator to run commands.
[10:51] <interprog> Monkeydust...how about qupzilla?
[10:51] <interprog> Is it good too?
[10:51] <zinjibar> thanks interprog... how to find it and how to use it please
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> interprog  try it to find out if you like it
[10:51] <jlim> Ben64: thnx for helping me
[10:51] <interprog> zinjibar What you mean by finding it, do you mean launch the terminal?
[10:51] <interprog> Thanks for the advice MonekyDust
[10:52] <interprog> MonkeyDust thanks
[10:52] <zinjibar> yes exactly how to lunch a terminal please
[10:52] <interprog> hit Ctrl+Alt+T zinjibar
[10:53] <gareppa> Internet13, i've heard good things about midori, but i never tried it
[10:53] <gareppa> interprog, i meant, i've heard good things about midori, but i never tried it
[10:53] <jlim> i like midori :)
[10:53] <interprog> That sounds midori is pretty nice to try :)
[10:53] <bekks> Midori is a nice liquor, yeah :)
[10:53] <interprog> So, it's working zinjibar?
[10:54] <zinjibar> ?
[10:54] <interprog> the terminal?
[10:54] <jlim> gareppa: i use midori on my older machines
[10:54] <interprog> How about SeamMonkey jlim
[10:54] <interprog> Ever tried it?
[10:54] <zinjibar> no sorry ... I'm very much new to this ubuntu ... switched from windows to this OS ... and I'm totally lost
[10:54] <jlim> gareppa: it is very light weight
[10:55] <Rory> zinjibar: terminal is an application, you can launch it by clicking the top-left button (or pressing the super key) and typing "terminal", or with the keyboard shortcut Ctrl-Alt-T
[10:56] <interprog> zinjibar Oh really? Welcome to Linux World! You will learn a lot, and you now part of our community! :D
[10:56] <zinjibar> great ... got the terminal ...
[10:56] <zinjibar> thanks interprog very much
[10:57] <interprog> zinjibar You can google of how to use the terminal cleverly and suggesting that you practice some basic commands.
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> zinjibar  and you will learn ubuntu like you learned windows... that is: by using it
[10:57] <Spaceraver> The Terminal is dark and full of wonders.. :D
[10:58] <interprog> Terminal is one of the reason I switch to Linux :D. Indeed it's very beautiful and powerful!!
[10:58] <interprog> I mean the shell it's offers
[10:58] <interprog> like Korn shell!
[10:58] <Spaceraver> ^truth in television
[10:59] <Spaceraver> :)
[10:59] <interprog> :D
[10:59] <dreamcat4> i like terminal on ubuntu very much. because it's similar to the os x "Terminal.app" (which I also use frequently)
[10:59] <interprog> Ubuntu is a very nice distro with a great support.
[11:00] <Spaceraver> it sure is
[11:00] <Spaceraver> and I like the community
[11:00] <dreamcat4> that plus other similar-things made it a lot easier for me to switch over (from mac os x to ubuntu)
[11:00] <interprog> Yes!
[11:00] <interprog> Me too
[11:00] <zinjibar> Yes interprog and MonkeyDust... learning windows ...was buy using it ... Thanks again for your support ... bye for now
[11:00] <interprog> Mac OS is indeed a bit same with Unity
[11:01] <interprog> You can can do some tweaks with cairo-dock
[11:01] <interprog> with Mac OS don't give you the freedom like Linux did :)
[11:02] <dreamcat4> interprog: thatnks for mentioning 'cairo-dock'. i was completely unaware of that until you mentioned it just now
[11:02] <jlim> Ben64: that is much better
[11:02] <interprog> :D
[11:02] <dreamcat4> i shall have to try it out
[11:02] <Spaceraver> I dabbled in Ubuntu a 6.04 LTS last.. Never gotten around to installing it again.. While Linux is a nice OS, there are so many programs that I use that are Win only, so I fell back on Win7..
[11:02] <jlim> Ben64: hopefully i didn't get any malicious software from going so long without security updates lol
[11:03] <djoi298> hey, so what is the terminal command to start the Lightlocker screensaver? thanks
[11:03] <interprog> If you know how to programming, malicious program will not make you afraid anymore (depend on your knowledges)
[11:03] <Spaceraver> My only gripe with Win is the plethora of virii..
[11:04] <interprog> I'm sorry? Spaceraver
[11:04] <solsTiCe> hi. and again. I formated an SD card in windows, and now I can't mount it in ubutu fuck! dmesg shows mmcblk0: [CUMANA/ADFS] p1 [ADFS] p1. I can't even mount it manually with mount !
[11:04] <bekks> solsTiCe: Why not?
[11:04] <ikonia> solsTiCe: there is no need for bad langauge
[11:04] <ikonia> please don't use it
[11:04] <interprog> Don't swear please :(
[11:05] <Spaceraver> But I still love the concept of Linux due to the fact it just works...
[11:05] <bekks> solsTiCe: Which ubuntu do you use, which commands are you trying, and what are the error messages?
[11:05] <interprog> Ya...Linux got a very big history...and very related to UNIX and V-System.
[11:05] <Spaceraver> Unless you install Slack, that is like opening a can of worms..
[11:05] <bekks> Spaceraver: Do you have a specific Ubuntu support question? :)
[11:05] <ikonia> guys can you please return to the topic of ubuntu support in here
[11:06] <ikonia> rather than general linux memory lane
[11:06] <interprog> Ahh, sorry!
[11:06] <Spaceraver> bekks, No, not really, I'll head off to #ubuntu-off instead for the smalltalk
[11:07] <interprog> Anyway...can I ask Lubuntu question in here? (Lubuntu channel not that active like in here)
[11:07] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:07] <interprog> So, Lubuntu support PAE system?
[11:07] <ikonia> interprog: you can although #lubuntu will be active if you engage with them
[11:07] <ikonia> interprog: lubuntu uses the same kernel as ubuntu
[11:08] <interprog> I'm sorry, my question is Lubuntu support Non-PAE system?
[11:08] <kami> Hello #ubuntu
[11:08] <interprog> hi kami, welcome!
[11:08] <ikonia> interprog: what do you mean non-pae systems
[11:08] <kami> Which is a good channel for asking a zfs question?
[11:08] <ikonia> interprog: there is no such thing as a non-pae system
[11:08] <interprog> Old system?
[11:09] <Spaceraver> Hmm, where did the offtopic chan go?
[11:09] <ikonia> Spaceraver: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <EriC^^> kami, #zfs
[11:09] <interprog> specifically, Non-PAE CPU
[11:09] <EriC^^> Spaceraver, it's #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:09] <Spaceraver> thanks ikonia
[11:09] <kami> EriC^^: thanks
[11:10] <interprog> I try to boot Lubuntu  with a PC that old (Non-PAE CPU)..but it failed
[11:11] <interprog> Tried to tty and forcepae..but stuck at the installation.
[11:11] <ikonia> interprog: whats the actual error you get
[11:11] <bekks> interprog: you need to use a 12.04 install cd, and then update from there - having non-PAE.
[11:11] <djoi298> what is the command to reload new keyboard hotkeys without logging out?
[11:12] <EriC^^> djoi298, they should take effect immediately when you change them in keyboard shortcuts
[11:13] <interprog> So, the Lubuntu(the custom kernel) don't support PAE system today? :O:O
[11:13] <Ragzzy-R> hello
[11:13] <interprog> Hi
[11:13] <djoi298> EriC^^, it doesn't do it automatically for me so i need the reload terminal command
[11:13] <Ragzzy-R> im having a problem with java what is the correct way to use javac with -cp option?
[11:14] <phiona> is the gap of about 8mb ok between swap and home??
[11:14] <EriC^^> phiona, you don't need a gap
[11:14] <EriC^^> it's fine though
[11:14] <interprog> I'm sorry, I don't programming in Java Ragzzy. If you want ask about C++/C, Python, Perl and Ruby...maybe I could help...
[11:15] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : hey mate.. how are you ??
[11:15] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, hey i'm good, you?
[11:16] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, :  good mate thank you!! i am still facing issues with my wifi .. i just dont know how to fix this issue
[11:16] <phiona> EriC^^:  so what could this gap be?
[11:16] <interprog> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE - The guide I using is not working for this old PC :(
[11:16] <EriC^^> phiona, unallocated space
[11:16] <interprog> Need to do some LFS
[11:17] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : could you pls help me fix my wireless issue mate ?
[11:17] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, yeah sure, thinking about what could help
[11:17] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : thanks mate.. if there is any info u need about my sys.. pls do lemme know.
[11:18] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, just remembered, try to hit the wifi off button and then turn it on and open a terminal and type dmesg , it might give us some info about any errors
[11:18] <phiona> EriC^^:  unallocated space for what?
[11:19] <EriC^^> phiona, nothing, it's just unallocated space
[11:19] <interprog> How to use C++ channel?
[11:19] <interprog> I can't post anything with it.
[11:19] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : my wifi button just doesnt turn on.. when i try to turn it on.. it simply turns my aeroplane mode.. pressing it again.. however does not turn my aeroplane mode off.. but i can manually click it with a mouse and set the aeroplane mode to off
[11:19] <EriC^^> interprog, you might need to register your nickname
[11:20] <EriC^^> or identify if it's already registered
[11:20] <interprog> How Eric^^, I'm a new IRC user :(
[11:20] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : is there any place where i can post u some screen shots/
[11:20] <cage_raphel> ?
[11:20] <mike_papa> Hello. I'm planning to build home/small-office server based on ubuntu and VMware. I was thinking about splitting it into serveral VMs, one for each service (Samba, VPN, DNS, etc.). Is it right way to do that? Is it possible to share somehow common parts of system, so each of VM won't need it's own ubuntu installation?
[11:20] <EriC^^> interprog, /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[11:20] <EriC^^> interprog, then verify it from the link you get to your email
[11:20] <interprog> Thanks :D
[11:20] <phiona> EriC^^: do you have this too?
[11:20] <ikonia> mike_papa: what is your reason for a.) using vmware b.) splitting it ?
[11:21] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, imgur.com
[11:21] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, when you turn it on and off, try to check dmesg cause it could say something about what's happening
[11:22] <EriC^^> phiona, no i don't
[11:22] <EriC^^> phiona, but it's not important
[11:23] <mike_papa> ikonia: a) it's easy and fast to setup b) besides of setting up, I tend to do a lot of learning and experiments as hobby. I'd rather have them as separate things, so if one fails, the others stay alive.
[11:23] <EriC^^> phiona, if you want you could delete the swap partition and recreate it to make use of the unallocated space but it's only 8mb so it's not worth it
[11:24] <ikonia> mike_papa: a,) I don't see the need for seperate VM's your creating a complex setup for something that is simple b.) why would one "fail" they are all on the same hardware which is the most realistic cause of failure, so if one fails they will probably all have failed
[11:24] <ikonia> mike_papa: I believe your setup is over complex and invites problems for something that is in fact very simple
[11:25] <solsTiCe> bekks: ikonia: dmesg shows the line mmcblk0: [CUMANA/ADFS] p1 [ADFS] p1. mount /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/tmp or /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/tmp gives wrong fs type or superblock error
[11:25] <ikonia> solsTiCe: that looks like an SD card
[11:25] <ikonia> solsTiCe: what file system is on it
[11:25] <solsTiCe> fat21. I formated in wondows.
[11:25] <solsTiCe> fat 32
[11:25] <ikonia> solsTiCe: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 please
[11:26] <phiona> EriC^^: ok what about this partition of about 1mb at the end? is it unimportant?
[11:26] <solsTiCe> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10596253/
[11:26] <EriC^^> phiona, at the end or start?
[11:27] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10596255/
[11:27] <ikonia> solsTiCe: mount the partition - not the disk
[11:27] <solsTiCe> I already done that
[11:27] <ikonia> solsTiCe: the device you want to mount is /dev/mmcblk0p1
[11:27] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : thats the dmesg.
[11:27] <phiona> EriC^^: at the end.
[11:27] <EriC^^> phiona, it's not important and won't affect anything, if it's at the start though sometimes there's free space for alignment
[11:27] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, thanks
[11:28] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : no worries mate.. does that help ?
[11:28] <ikonia> solsTiCe: done what ?
[11:28] <mike_papa> ikonia: b) fail in terms of messed up configuration. I'm rather inexpirienced and only regular backups of my dd-wrt router's configuration saved me from setting it up hundreds of times. Belive me. I will mess it up many times beyond my ability to specify when things went wrong. ;)
[11:29] <phiona> EriC^^: ok so i just leave my disks looking like this?
[11:29] <ikonia> mike_papa: if you are inexperienced you are making it harder for yourself, make 2 vm's a primary and a backup
[11:29] <ikonia> mike_papa: thats all you need
[11:29] <EriC^^> phiona, yup, it's fine
[11:30] <phiona> EriC^^: ok thanks.
[11:30] <mike_papa> ikonia: That's one of choices. Several machines on the other hand gives so much more learning oportunities.
[11:31] <ikonia> mike_papa: it doesn't give you more learning oppertunity
[11:31] <ikonia> mike_papa: it will teach you bad lessons and make your setup more complex than it needs to be
[11:31] <ikonia> mike_papa: you're welcome to disagree and go your own way though
[11:31] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, try installing linux-firmware-nonfree
[11:32] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : sure will try and let u know the outcome
[11:32] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, you need to enable the multiverse repository btw
[11:33] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : ok sure.
[11:33] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : how exactly do i enable the multi verse repo
[11:33] <cage_raphel> ?
[11:34] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, open the dash and type software, then choose software & updates and click on multiverse
[11:34] <EriC^^> if you haven't enabled universe it's pretty useful too
[11:34] <EriC^^> then press reload
[11:35] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : i am in software & updates.. it doesnt say multiverse anywere
[11:36] <EriC^^> i think it's at the end between ( )
[11:36] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : u talking to me mate /
[11:36] <cage_raphel> ?
[11:37] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, yeah
[11:38] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : once i am in software and updates.. where do  i go ? which tab do i click on ?
[11:38] <EriC^^> the tab it's already on, Software
[11:39] <EriC^^> it's the last repository , Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (multiverse)
[11:39] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : yes mate.. thats checked.
[11:39] <EriC^^> ok, great
[11:40] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10596330/
[11:40] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : pls look into that mate
[11:42] <gu3st_> Hello
[11:42] <gu3st_> i need some help
[11:43] <gu3st_> i have bought gtx750 card but i can't install driver
[11:43] <wdu> 大神们，肿么都搞英语
[11:43] <gu3st_> if somebody can to helpm me please reply
[11:43] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, try ls -l /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin
[11:44] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : sure mate.. will let u know the outcome.
[11:45] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10596353/
[11:45] <bekks> gu3st_: Can you provide some more details, please?
[11:45] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : thats the outcome mate
[11:46] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, ok thanks
[11:46] <gu3st_> unable to build the nvidia kernel module
[11:46] <gu3st_> bekks:unable to build the nvidia kernel module
[11:47] <BluesKaj> !cn | wdu
[11:47] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : thanks mate. does it make any sense ? i made no sense to me..  lol
[11:47] <bekks> gu3st_: How are you trying to install the driver?
[11:47] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, it's loading that firmware in dmesg, and it looks like the file exists
[11:48] <hacked> how to install g talk  ubuntu?
[11:48] <gu3st_> bekks: i know that it need some headers and more details but can't know exactly what and how to install
[11:48] <bekks> gu3st_: How are you trying to install the driver?
[11:48] <gu3st_> bekks: i have disabled x server and than run it
[11:48] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : ok .. so does it look good ? if yes..  how do i get my wifi working ?
[11:48] <bekks> gu3st_: Ru what?
[11:48] <hacked> please help me
[11:48] <bekks> *Run
[11:48] <gu3st_> bekks: sudo sh driver.run
[11:48] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, try lsmod | grep rtl
[11:48] <bekks> gu3st_: Thats a safe way to break your system.
[11:49] <bekks> gu3st_: why dont you use the nvidia driver from the official repos?
[11:49] <gu3st_> bekks: i have downloaded driver on nvidia site
[11:49] <bekks> gu3st_: and why dont you use the nvidia driver from the official repos?
[11:49] <bazhang> hacked gtalk is gone
[11:50] <bazhang> hacked its google hangouts and nothing to do with ubuntu
[11:50] <cage_raphel> EriC^^,  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10596384/
[11:50] <gu3st_> bekks: what are you mean bro
[11:50] <wdu> 谢谢！！！＼
[11:50] <bazhang> gu3st_, use the drivers that ubuntu has for you
[11:50] <bazhang> !repos | gu3st_
[11:51] <gu3st_> ubuntu doesn't have this drive
[11:51] <jlim> anybody know why my-weather-indicator broke?
[11:52] <jlim> or how to fix it
[11:52] <jlim> ?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> jlim  typhoon is also a nice weather app
[11:53] <jlim> MonkeyDust: thanks i will check it out
[11:53] <jlim> MonkeyDust: is it in the software center?
[11:53] <gu3st_> bekks: ubuntu doesn't have this driver
[11:53] <ph88> hey guys i use this answer to add a format option http://askubuntu.com/a/263565  but it's not showing up..what can i do about it ?
[11:53] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, are you dual booting?
[11:53] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : no. fully running on ubu 14.10
[11:54] <gu3st_> ubottu: i think, its not unsecure for me
[11:54] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, are you using the latest kernel?
[11:54] <gu3st_> ubottu: ok bro :D
[11:55] <jlim> loll
[11:55] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : i reckon i do mate.. is there any way we can check and make sure i am using the latest kernel ?
[11:55] <EriC^^> type uname -r
[11:55] <gu3st_> bazhang: ubuntu can't isntall driver for this card
[11:55] <bazhang> gu3st_, what card
[11:56] <gu3st_> evga gtx 750
[11:56] <gu3st_> bazhang: evga gtx 750
[11:56] <bazhang> gu3st_, very old or very new
[11:56] <gu3st_> bazhang: very new : )
[11:57] <bazhang> gu3st_, does the additional drivers suggest a driver for that card; what version of ubuntu are you on
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> jlim  no, just remembered: i installed it with a ppa, but you've had bad experiences with ppa's
[11:57] <baltrum> Сап!
[11:57] <gu3st_> bazhang: not provided any driver, i have 14.04
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> jlim  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/typhoon-best-free-weather-widget-for-ubuntu-13-04/
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> jlim  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/typhoon-best-free-weather-widget-for-ubuntu-13-04/
[11:58] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, latest is 3.16.0-31
[11:58] <bazhang> baltrum, can what
[11:58] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : how do i check  what i am running is the latest mate /
[11:58] <cage_raphel> ?
[11:58] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, type uname -r
[11:58] <Guest14313> About 2,900,000 results (0.40 seconds)
[11:58] <Guest14313> Search Results
[11:58] <Guest14313>     GTX 750 - eVGA
[11:58] <Guest14313>     www.evga.com/.../ProductList.aspx?...GTX+750
[11:58] <Guest14313>     EVGA Corporation
[11:58] <Guest14313>     EVGA GeForce GTX 750 2GB FTW w/ EVGA ACX Cooling. Part Number: 02G-P4-2758-KR. 1229MHz Base Clock; 1320MHz Boost Clock; 2048MB GDDR5 ...
[11:58] <baltrum> не зрозумию английскьку мову
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[11:59] <bazhang> baltrum, #ubuntu-ru for russian
[11:59] <BluesKaj> gu3st_,, nvidia-340 or 346, it's your choice, maybe even the 331 since it's 14.04
[11:59] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : krishnaroona@krishnaroona:~$ uname -r
[11:59] <cage_raphel> 3.16.0-31-generic
[11:59] <baltrum> bazhang, thanks
[11:59] <bazhang> np
[12:00] <mopia> do you mean "mate" as in "friend" or mate as in the desktop envronment?
[12:00] <bazhang> friend
[12:00] <gu3st_> i have already try 331 but failed
[12:00] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, ok that's the latest one, i think you could either try an older kernel to see if it would work, or maybe install a different wifi driver
[12:00] <gu3st_> bazhang: i have already try 331 but failed
[12:00] <bazhang> mate-desktop is the linux one mopia
[12:00] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : how do i do that ?
[12:00] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, if you want to check which kernels you already have installed you can type dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[12:01] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10596445/
[12:02] <EriC^^> ok you have 29 and 30 also installed, you could restart the pc and hold shift to get grub, then choose advanced, then choose one of the older kernels to boot using it
[12:03] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, ^
[12:03] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : which kernel should i choose mate ?
[12:03] <EriC^^> 29 maybe
[12:04] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : ok .. will reboot.. hold shift.. and will let u know how it goes..
[12:04] <EriC^^> ok :)
[12:04] <mopia> oh btw if anyone is interested i fixed my dual monitor/videocard issue. Had to rollback the machine. I'll work out which update broke it and send a bug report.
[12:07] <Linux> bo
[12:10] <mopia> Always have trouble with that setup in linux. Shortage of people in linux who are familiar with gaming hardware. Valve's boss said he's never got Linux to install out of the box - I kind of see why. Soon as you plug in the second gpu and  screen you're asking for a beating :( Hope steamOS does well and we build a community that knows this harwdware. I'm off now until something else breaks. Cya all.
[12:13] <dutymule> linux is such a joke. It simply does not work. Some while ago I tried numerous times to install linux on a work machine, but the devil had "unsupported igp" and it was impossible to get working X server (or how do you call it). Now I have a not so outdated pc to experiment on , installed windows 10 tech preview on it, runs fine, out of the box, old ass printer is working out of the box...
[12:13] <dutymule> ...everything is ok. Then I try to install ubuntu 14.04 (most "mainstream linux distro" on your average pc, what could go wrong?). It installs fine, reboots and I have a blank unresponsive desktop with  background picture and ubuntu logo. Cursor is moving, but no rightclicks or ctrl alt f1 no nothing
[12:14] <dutymule> only positive experience i had with linux is clonezilla. it simply works every time
[12:15] <dutymule> maybe some live cd's to a VERY SMALL extent (no ntfs write support, etc)
[12:15] <cfhowlett> dutymule, old equipment = lubuntu
[12:15] <dutymule> Y U NO WORK?
[12:15] <mopia> think there;s more linux devices out there than windows devices... it does work ... usually :-)
[12:15] <mopia> it's fine on mainstream hardware
[12:16] <mopia> laptops can be tricky as they can be quite proprietary. gaming hardware is tricky too.
[12:16] <dutymule> cfhowlett, what is considered old? hardware in question was mainstream some while ago. Do they unload drivers for devices after X years?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> OEM sold machines sold with Linux work.  others *usually* work.
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> dutymule  now put all that in a question, so we can try to help you
[12:17] <mopia> dutymule: Ubuntu now requires 3d acceleration. What systme specs are you using?
[12:17] <nduy> arta salam sore
[12:17] <dutymule> MonkeyDust, not here for help. Only to rant, and for some all around answers
[12:18] <cfhowlett> dutymule, no rants here please.  try #ubuntu-offtopic or ## linux for that
[12:18] <ikonia> no, don't use those channels for that
[12:18] <ikonia> they are not there for rants
[12:22] <dutymule> I'll go and try some other distro (which is annoying as always) but before that I'll reiterate my question:
[12:22] <dutymule> Do they unload drivers for devices after X years?
[12:22] <dutymule> from kernel , driver lib, or whatever you call it
[12:23] <mopia> dutymule: They have been some changes with regards to older hardware. What hardware do you have?
[12:23] <dutymule> this one is amd phenom 8450 from 2010.
[12:23] <dutymule> dunno about motherboard, because it's offline now
[12:24] <dutymule> some am2+ socket el cheapo thingy
[12:24] <mopia> i don't know AMD at all. Would you know what gpu that has, or whether it's integrated?
[12:24] <bekks> Who are "they"?
[12:24] <dutymule> integrated.
[12:25] <dutymule> bekks, they are the people behind ubuntu 14.04 or ubuntu in general
[12:25] <dutymule> "they"
[12:25] <bekks> They do not load or unload drivers, thats the job of your computer.
[12:25] <mopia> From what you described, glacial performance on desktop with an integrated AMD, I think your issue is lackign 3d spport required for Unity, and perhaps Lubuntu would be a more approriate distro. Would be nice to have more information though.
[12:26] <mopia> I think he means "drop support for ..."
[12:26] <bekks> dutymule: Do you mean: "do they drop support for old hardware?"
[12:26] <dutymule> yup
[12:26] <dutymule> after HOW LONG
[12:26] <dutymule> what substitutes for "old hardware"
[12:27] <mopia> No set rule that I know of, but I know the kernel has dropped support for some things. Again though, this is unlikely to be your problem
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> dutymule  as suggested before, try lubuntu
[12:29] <dutymule> yeah, yeah. It did not help last time :) On a very old motherboard with unichrome IGP. Lubuntu could not start X.
[12:30] <dutymule> I'll try puppy linux first, cause I have a usb key with it lying around, then maybe mint, and after that lubuntu.
[12:30] <ikonia> dutymule: what is the video card model you are using
[12:30] <dutymule> till we meet again!
[12:34] <mopia> Chrome and Omnichrome are old S3/ViA chips I remember from way back when. Unichrome is almost certainly an S3/via. They're well dodgy and barely work in windows :P
[12:35] <mopia> Was a good brand around Y2K
[12:35] <mopia> via's ok now for embedded boards
[12:36] <ikonia> who are you talking to ?
[12:36] <mopia> oh, i was telling you what gpu he had. then i rambled on a bit but i'm a gpu geek. sorry.
[12:39] <milosz96> Hi all. I need any simple and fast booting linux. I don't need network or sound or even Xorg. It just have to boot as fast as possible and be able to mount ntfs drives. I started from installing ubuntu minimal, it boot withing about 15seconds, but i think (and i hope) it can do it faster. How can i improve it? Here is my dmesg log, it might be helpful: http://pastebin.com/X1YCrtGn
[12:40] <ikonia> milosz96: what is your target boot time (and why ??) and what is the hardware you are using ?
[12:42] <milosz96> ikonia: as low as possible. 15s isn't bad, but 5-7s would be perfect. Hardware is really poor, pendrive as storage for system and one core intel pentium x64, 2gb ram
[12:42] <ikonia> milosz96: so your pendrive will be a big limiting factor
[12:42] <vlt> milosz96: There is (or was?) "Damn Small Linux". Also quite fast and with NTFS on board is "grml".
[12:42] <iMadper> Hi. I'm trying install libc++ for some c++11 features. however it throw lots of errors. here is the log of apt-get install libc++. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10591393/   any methods to fix it?
[12:43] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : i rebooted a few num of times.. was holding shift.. it did not take me anywere
[12:43] <ikonia> iMadper: looks like you are using a 3rd party repo that has missing/conflicting dependencies
[12:43] <nduy> arta
[12:43] <milosz96> vlt: i'll try dsl, might be good
[12:43] <nduy> arta: mana???
[12:43] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, try typing sudo nano /etc/default/grub, and add a # before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT , then ctrl+o to save
[12:43] <m1dnight_> Is it /j #owncloud
[12:44] <iMadper> ikonia: i see. thanks. I'll remove all ppas and retest it.  :-)
[12:44] <EriC^^> cage_raphel, then type sudo update-grub and reboot, it should show grub without holding anything
[12:44] <ikonia> iMadper: removing the PPA's won't fix it as the packages are already installed
[12:44] <ikonia> iMadper: you need to remove the packages to stop the conflict
[12:44] <mopia> milosz96: Are you able to boot once and just leave the system up?
[12:45] <iMadper> ikonia: ahhhhh... I see...   :-()
[12:45] <iMadper> thanks a lot!
[12:45] <milosz96> ikonia: i know. Please take a look at dmesg log, at the end there is a gap between 4s and 10s since boot. What is happening for these 6 seconds?
[12:45] <milosz96> mopia: nope :P
[12:45] <ikonia> milosz96: how will the dmesg log tell us that ?
[12:46] <ikonia> the dmesg log isn't going to be a huge ammount of use
[12:46] <milosz96> ikonia: what will be more useful then?
[12:46] <ikonia> create a boot log
[12:46] <ikonia> or look at apps like bootchart
[12:46] <ikonia> you'll find the pendrive will limit you way too much
[12:46] <ikonia> and then things like dhcp responses
[12:46] <milosz96> I wonder what (and why) these line mean: [   10.478687] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[12:47] <milosz96> ikonia: as i said i don't need networking at all c:
[12:47] <ikonia> milosz96: because it's not created a link on the card
[12:47] <ikonia> milosz96: disable networking then
[12:47] <ikonia> disable everything you don't need
[12:47] <milosz96> ikonia: i googled about it, but i haven't found anything useful :
[12:48] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[12:49] <Hannspree23> FOR THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD IN ANYONES EYES, NOBODY FEARS GOD ANYMORE
[12:50] <kauwa> this is right
[12:52] <Hannspree23> !ops | FOR THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD IN ANYONES EYES, NOBODY FEARS GOD ANYMORE
[12:53] <Ullarah> What in the blazes?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> errrr, ubottu is a zealot now/??
[12:56] <milosz96> ikonia: i did both instuctions from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/185515/disable-network-configuration-services-during-boot-time , but still no difrence
[12:57] <ikonia> what do you mean no differnce
[12:57] <ikonia> no difference in what ?
[12:57] <milosz96> in boot time
[12:57] <ikonia> why would there be ?
[12:57] <milosz96> and still get messageabout ipv6
[12:57] <serpong> hi guys
[12:58] <ikonia> you'd need to blacklist disable the networking modules for your card to stop them loading
[12:59] <urbanendeavour> how does the default user have sudo rights?
[12:59] <urbanendeavour> I see no reference to the default user account in /etc/sudoers
[12:59] <cfhowlett> urbanendeavour, if he's the only user ...
[12:59] <ikonia> the group it belongs to
[13:01] <urbanendeavour> there is a reference to the admin group, that user is not in that group yet they have suoders access
[13:01] <ikonia> it is
[13:01] <ikonia> the default ubuntu user is in the admin group
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> urbanendeavour  in a terminal, type   groups [username]
[13:02] <urbanendeavour> adm, but not admin, admin is the only entry in sudoers
[13:02] <jlim> is there an ubuntu app indicator for typhoon?
[13:02] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: what exact version of ubuntu is this ?
[13:05] <urbanendeavour> 14.04
[13:05] <urbanendeavour> is admin an alias for adm?
[13:06] <ikonia> no
[13:06] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: are you logged in as the usernow ?
[13:06] <urbanendeavour> yes
[13:06] <urbanendeavour> there is no admin group in the group file
[13:06] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: show me the output of the command "id" exactly as it prints to you please
[13:06] <urbanendeavour> only adm so it must be that, but how is that group mapped in sudoers as the only entry there is %admin
[13:07] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: please give me the info I've asked for
[13:08] <urbanendeavour> id=1000(test) gid=1000(test) groups=1000(test) context=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c102
[13:08] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: that is not the default user created from an ubuntu install
[13:08] <ikonia> you are missing many groups
[13:09] <urbanendeavour> uid=1000(test) gid=1000(test) groups=1000(rball),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),110(lpadmin),111(sambashare)
[13:09] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: where did these extra groups for
[13:10] <ikonia> I asked you to pate it exactly as it came out and you edited it
[13:10] <urbanendeavour> you can see the adm group it has to be that one
[13:10] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: answer the questions I asked
[13:10] <urbanendeavour> so my question is how did that group map to %admin in suoders
[13:10] <ikonia> it is not mapped to admin
[13:10] <ikonia> the sudo groups allows it
[13:10] <ikonia> but why are you editing the output when I told you not to
[13:11] <urbanendeavour> the other one was from the wrong server
[13:11] <ikonia> urbanendeavour: please show me the ouptut of the command "uname -a" exactly as it is now
[13:11] <K350> How can I, from the terminal, see how fast my processor is and how much RAM I have?
[13:12] <ikonia> K350: cat /proc/cpuinfo and free -m
[13:13] <moonbox> join #vulnhub
[13:19] <yeats> K350: ram: 'free -g' or 'top' cpu: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' (shows each core as a separate processor)
[13:19] <urbanendeavour> ikonia: sudo group, ok missed that, cheers.
[13:28] <ph88> hey guys i use this answer to add a format option http://askubuntu.com/a/263565  but it's not showing up..what can i do about it ?
[13:34] <manuel> .irc-hispano.org
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu> I need to install some video drivers for a real old pc...
[13:37] <hlidutysileh> did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:37] <hlidutysileh> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosion with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:37] <hlidutysileh> plz, send my qs to help limiting usa&israel aggression against others in the middle east.
[13:37] <hlidutysileh> .
[13:37] <hlidutysileh> did usa covertly supply isis with weapons like they did with al-qaeda to justify creating wars?
[13:37] <hlidutysileh> did usa excute the creative mess in the middle east like they said they will, does the creative mess include explosion with uncertain responsibles to create wars?
[13:38] <bekks> HoNgOuRu: So do it? :)
[13:38] <HoNgOuRu> but ubuntu 14.04 does not have a xorg file, how can I create one ?
[13:38] <bekks> HoNgOuRu: Just use a text editor, and create that file.
[13:38] <cfhowlett> hlidutysileh, completely off-topic in this channel.  take it elsewhere
[13:39] <HoNgOuRu> bekks, I installed the mini iso version of xubuntu 14.04 and after that the xubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends...
[13:39] <HoNgOuRu> bekks, isnt any program that generates it ?
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> !xorgconf | HoNgOuRu is this useful
[13:41] <HoNgOuRu> bekks, It only displays a 640x480 at minimum and maximum values
[13:43] <Chico> Hello. This is my first IRC. Just making sure things work
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> Chico  it works, we see you
[13:44] <jlim> it works
[13:45] <Chico> Thanks!
[13:51] <Kamuela> How do I go about diagnosing why my wireless connection drops every 10 minutes or so from my router? My Ubuntu laptop is the only machine that experiences this.
[13:52] <skimo12> @Kamuela, i had the same problem with my router a while ago. I had to change the security setting on the router to something better supported. I can check and let you know what i set it to
[13:52] <Kamuela> skimo12: something better supported? security is using WPA2 personal right now
[13:54] <skimo12> i had to change mine to WPA(TKIP). It took me about 7 months to figure it out.
[13:54] <Eurimar> holaa
[13:54] <skimo12> i think that WPA2 is the new default when you get a new router.
[13:55] <skimo12> @Kamuela.
[13:59] <dg55> My software updater keeps getting "stuck" in the launcher. It looks like it's updating but nothing happens. I've been doing my updates manually as a result. I'm using Ubuntu 14.020 LTS on a Dell Latitude E6400. Can anyone help?
[13:59] <dg55> *sorry, typo - 14.04
[14:04] <HoNgOuRu> MonkeyDust, I followed your advice, created a new xorg.conf added a new resolution, rebooted and now it worked grate. thank you bro !!!
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> HoNgOuRu  great! glad i could help!
[14:08] <cfhowlett> !cookie | MonkeyDust fine work!
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett  i want two!
[14:09] <cfhowlett> :)
[14:09] <edgy> Hi, I tried to set default = 2 in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and rebooted expecting to boot into an older kernel but it's still the current one, why?
[14:09] <tonph> Hi, how can i set up ssl(https) to my server which is running a test web.py server. I like to request using https://localhost:9090
[14:10] <rejit> edgy: try something easier like grub-customizer instead of tweaking grub
[14:11] <edgy> rejit: it's a remote server with no X
[14:13] <rejit> edgy: you need to make changes to this  /etc/default/grub file instead of grub.cfg
[14:14] <edgy> rejit: I tried that too by changing GRUB_DEFAULT=2 and ran update-grub2 and reboot but still same kernel!
[14:15] <rejit> it should be 3
[14:15] <rejit> edgy: it should be 3 instead of 2
[14:15] <edgy> rejit: really? why? the first kernel is 0, the recovery mode of it is 1, the second kernel is 2, what's wrong here?
[14:17] <tony_> hi
[14:18] <rejit> edgy:  you can use the title in the list instead of a number
[14:19] <edgy> rejit: yes, this is exactly what I am trying now but when I ran update-grub2 I got this warning which not sure I understand
[14:19] <rohan_> Hello
[14:19] <edgy> Warning: Please don't use old title `Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-46-generic' for GRUB_DEFAULT, use `Advanced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-46-generic' (for versions before 2.00) or `gnulinux-advanced-3d444d50-7aa6-4f79-bc9a-80727744989d>gnulinux-3.13.0-46-generic-advanced-3d444d50-7aa6-4f79-bc9a-80727744989d' (for 2.00 or later)
[14:21] <frezaa> hello!!
[14:22] <frezaa> can any one tell me how to change /etc/host file
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  sudo -e /etc/hosts
[14:23] <frezaa> i changed it but the changes dont take effect
[14:23] <rejit> edgy: inside the previous kernel you need to choose the kernel with the indicator 2>0
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  try logout / login
[14:24] <rejit> edgy: simply a 2 wont do
[14:24] <frezaa> done that
[14:24] <frezaa> not working
[14:24] <edgy> rejit: restart your network
[14:25] <rejit> edgy: ?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  or even restart? what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:25] <edgy> rejit: service network-manager restart or something like this
[14:25] <edgy> rejit: or reboot
[14:27] <frezaa> @monkeydust
[14:27] <frezaa> 127.0.0.1	localhost
[14:27] <frezaa> 127.0.1.1	freeza-Inspiron-3542
[14:27] <frezaa> 173.194.36.98	yahoo.com
[14:27] <frezaa> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[14:27] <frezaa> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[14:27] <rejit> edgy:  /etc/default/grub did you change the default to 2>0 ??
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  next time, use a pastebin to paste multiple lines
[14:27] <edgy> rejit: you mean GRUB_DEFAULT=2>0 ?
[14:27] <rejit> yeah
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  and that's not /etc/issue you're pasting
[14:28] <edgy> rejit: are you sure? I am afraid my server won't boot?
[14:30] <frezaa> @monkeydust Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[14:31] <RudeViper> Good Morning all - I have done several google searches on how to automount all of my drives when the server starts - most are old stuff - but the ones that are applicable for some reason I just don't understand it...I see them all in /dev/disk/ - what I don't understand is how to do it properly via fstab
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  try   sudo -e /etc/hostname
[14:31] <edgy> rejit: can you please try it in your pc? ;) unfortunately, I don't have an ubuntu desktop handy to test
[14:32] <rejit> edgy: /boot/grub2/grub.conf pastebin this
[14:34] <pavlos> RudeViper, here's a guide ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[14:36] <edgy> rejit: thanks for your care, just a min, I will try GRUB_DEFAULT=4 and report back
[14:37] <tonph> any ideas - setting up ssl https with port no as https://localhost:9090
[14:37] <rejit> edgy: just  a piece of warning never manually override grub.cfg in boot
[14:38] <Giwrgaras> hi, which one is the safest browser for ubuntu ? which one do you use?
[14:38] <rejit> Giwrgaras: no browser is safe, all of em are prone to attacks
[14:38] <edgy> rejit: ok, I did changed the /etc/default/grub, the menus in grub.cfg looks like this http://dpaste.com/16PN7ZH
[14:39] <edgy> rejit: so if I would count the submenu it would be 4, still waiting the server to restart ...
[14:39] <frezaa> @monkeydust freeza-Inspiron-3542
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  ok, change it to whatever name you want
[14:40] <frezaa> and can you tell me how to use pastebin
[14:40] <frezaa> huh?
[14:40] <frezaa> what do you mean monkeydust
[14:40] <rejit> edgy: what options are displayed as u press enter in submenu Advanced during boot
[14:41] <edgy> rejit: setting to 4 didn't work, here is the grub.cfg you requested http://dpaste.com/2SBFVPK
[14:41] <cxdvty> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[14:41] <cxdvty> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  what do you mean 'what do you mean'? you asked how to change the hostnamre, i just showed you
[14:41] <cxdvty> What do I do?
[14:41] <edgy> rejit: I don't have access the console so I cannot see it but the grub.cfg should point that out
[14:41] <edgy> rejit: shall I try 3?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> frezaa  pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:42] <cxdvty> MonkeyDust: ^^
[14:42] <rejit> edgy:  3 should boot you to Linux 3.16.0-31-generic (recovery mode)
[14:43] <edgy> so 4 is correct?
[14:43] <rejit> edgy: so you should try 2>0
[14:43] <rejit> edgy: woops in your list its 1>0
[14:43] <edgy> rejit: where is this documented?
[14:44] <rejit> edgy: its like asking grub to look under submenu 1 for first kernel 0
[14:45] <rejit> edgy: and it should be Linux 3.13.0-46-generic
[14:45] <rejit> edgy: remember the error Advanced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-46-generic
[14:47] <edgy> rejit: yes but may be the string not the numbers
[14:47] <rejit> edgy: its either or
[14:48] <rejit> edgy: change grub default = Advanced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 3.13.0-46-generic
[14:48] <edgy> rejit: what about this: grub-set-default gnulinux-advanced-3d444d50-7aa6-4f79-bc9a-80727744989d>gnulinux-3.13.0-46-generic-advanced-3d444d50-7aa6-4f79-bc9a-80727744989d
[14:49] <rejit> edgy: its either or as i said, the two strings or the number
[14:49] <frezaa> hello
[14:50] <edgy> rejit: ok will try it ...
[14:50] <rejit> edgy: if you are too scared about it , dont worry grub will hit the default kernel if it fails to find the image
[14:50] <edgy> rejit: really? good to know
[14:51] <rejit> edgy: a bootloader is designed failsafe
[14:52] <frezaa> i changed /etc/host but it doent take effect
[14:52] <frezaa> can somebody help?
[14:52] <daftykins> frezaa: /etc/hosts you mean? you need to change /etc/hostname too, then restart
[14:52] <daftykins> but make sure they're identical otherwise you'll break sudo
[14:52] <edgy> frezaa: it is not host it is hosts
[14:54] <Bendi22> hi, i am making a server-client software, and for testing, i want to make the server listen to localhost, and then connect to it from localhost, but I need 2 connections with different IPs, is it possible?
[14:54] <daftykins> localhost and different IPs? you're contradicting yourself
[14:54] <daftykins> plus this is more a dev question not OS support
[14:55] <Bendi22> i doubt its a dev question
[14:56] <Bendi22> someone mentioned me a way through loopback
[14:56] <Bendi22> to create multiple loopback, but i wasnt able to find it on thew eb
[14:56] <daftykins> why don't you just test it on the real network?
[14:56] <frezaa> @daftykins not working still
[14:57] <daftykins> frezaa: until you show what you've edited and what "not working" means nobody can help you.
[14:57] <Bendi22> daftykins: I only have one computer
[14:57] <daftykins> Bendi22: so install virtualbox and create a couple of VMs
[14:57] <bakednotfried> anyone using fglrx driver here?
[14:58] <daftykins> bakednotfried: ask the real question
[14:58] <bakednotfried> i wanted to know if I'm the only one with the poor 2d performance
[14:58] <bakednotfried> firefox is taking 100% of my cpu right now
[14:58] <bakednotfried> really laggy
[14:58] <Bendi22> bakednotfied: u need to use ati-config
[14:59] <Bendi22> bakednotfried: u need to use ati-config
[14:59] <Bendi22> i had the same problem on gentoo
[14:59] <Bendi22> with xfce
[14:59] <bakednotfried> Bendi22, with what option?
[14:59] <bakednotfried> xorg logs say 2d acceleration is enabled
[14:59] <frezaa> @daftykins i have changed both hosts and hostname to this
[14:59] <KalEl> I just installed Ubuntu Gnome hoping that it will be a proper desktop environment, not optimized for touch
[14:59] <daftykins> frezaa: use http://paste.ubuntu.com to show what's going on
[15:00] <frezaa> @daftykins    pastebin.com/pMGRj201
[15:00] <KalEl> If I want to get xfce, what's the best way? To install from scratch, or to remove gnome and add xfce?
[15:00] <daftykins> could've made the link clickable :(
[15:00] <KalEl> Can I do apt-get remove gnome-desktop and then apt-get install xfce-desktop
[15:01] <daftykins> frezaa: this doesn't show me what's "not working" - try again please
[15:01] <edgy> rejit: excellent setting it to GRUB_DEFAULT="gnulinux-advanced-3d444d50-7aa6-4f79-bc9a-80727744989d>gnulinux-3.13.0-46-generic-advanced-3d444d50-7aa6-4f79-bc9a-80727744989d" works
[15:02] <rejit> edgy: using other two also works :)
[15:02] <edgy> rejit: thanks for your help
[15:02] <rejit> edgy: happy that I could be of some help to you :)
[15:03] <KalEl> Can I install xfce on the existing intallation and remove all gnome desktop? I have 14.10
[15:04] <dumle29-trying-n> Hey there. I'm currently in a live image of ubuntu-gnome, and I want to install it on my main ssd.
[15:04] <dumle29-trying-n> sorry, on my secondary SSD.
[15:04] <KalEl> Don't install ubuntu-gnome it's quite bad
[15:04] <rejit> xfce has dependency on certain gnome packages
[15:04] <KalEl> I am trying to get rid of it myself.
[15:05] <dumle29-trying-n> KalEl: If I want gnome, should I install normal ubuntu, and then gnome after that?
[15:05] <KalEl> Oh if you want gnome 3 then it's fine I guess. Just know what you are getting into
[15:06] <KalEl> They've seemed to remove the menu and optimized it for touch
[15:06] <rejit> dumle29---: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME this should help you
[15:06] <dumle29---> KalEl: I don't know what I'm getting in to I guess. I just saw tek syndicats video, and it seems nice :)
[15:06] <KalEl> Oh okay
[15:06] <KalEl> Anyone knows how to purge a system off gnome 3?
[15:07] <dumle29---> I'll just quickly describe why I'm asking here :)
[15:07] <rejit> KalEl: sudo apt-get purge unity gnome-shell lightdm
[15:08] <KalEl> Thanks will try that
[15:08] <rejit> KalEl: it will remove entire gui
[15:08] <dumle29---> I'm wanting to install linux on my second ssd. I have this setup of drives. 128gb ssd (SDA) 2TB spindle (SDB) 2TB spindle (SDC) 128gb ssd (SDC). I want to install linux on SDC, and once that is done, I want to format SDC2 for data
[15:08] <rejit> KalEl: after boot ctrl alt f1 to login
[15:08] <KalEl> Nice
[15:08] <KalEl> Yeah
[15:08] <KalEl> And then install xubuntu-desktop?
[15:09] <KalEl> From the Ctrl Alt F1
[15:09] <evgenii> Hi everyone, I'm back here
[15:09] <daftykins> dumle29---: i think you mean sdd
[15:09] <rejit> KalEl: any gui of your choice
[15:09] <dumle29---> Windows resides on SDA1, and I'm wondering where to put the bootloader. I want to have my system boot windows if I just boot and do nothing, but present me with a boot menu for a couple seconds to pick linux
[15:09] <dumle29---> daftykins: I did, thanks :)
[15:10] <daftykins> dumle29---: which Windows? EFI or no?
[15:10] <dumle29---> for clarification, I indeed did mean to say I want ubuntu on sdd :)
[15:10] <dumle29---> daftykins: Windows 7, UEFI ASUS board
[15:10] <daftykins> but did you install 7 as EFI?
[15:11] <dumle29---> daftykins: I'm not sure. Any way to check that from the live image?
[15:11] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[15:12] <dumle29---> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597386/
[15:13] <nikhil> how can I rename my logical drive???
[15:13] <dumle29---> daftykins: What would I be looking for in that paste? :)
[15:13] <daftykins> dumle29---: ah i see so you've left some space on the second 2TB that you want to use as... /home ?
[15:13] <dumle29---> daftykins: Yeah :)
[15:14] <daftykins> dumle29---: ok so run the installer, get to the partitioner and select "something else" to partition manually
[15:14] <dumle29---> daftykins: Yep, I'm there :)
[15:15] <daftykins> dumle29---: is this a desktop or laptop?
[15:15] <dumle29---> daftykins: Desktop :)
[15:15] <daftykins> i should've known the answer to that given the number of drives, ugh i blame not waking up
[15:15] <nikhil> can anyone help me in renaming my Logical Drive?
[15:15] <daftykins> how much RAM do you have, dumle29--- ?
[15:15] <dumle29---> daftykins: heh :P I would like a laptop with room for 4 drives :P
[15:15] <dumle29---> 16gb
[15:16] <daftykins> hrmm, lets make swap smaller then
[15:16] <dumle29---> daftykins: okay, how? :P
[15:16] <daftykins> dumle29---: select /dev/sdd and create a 120GB partition on it of type ext4 for /
[15:16] <daftykins> (/ will be the mount point)
[15:17] <dumle29---> gotcha
[15:17] <nikhil> no one?
[15:17] <dumle29---> daftykins: Done :)
[15:17] <daftykins> nikhil: got no idea what you mean
[15:17] <daftykins> 'rename' a partition? wat.
[15:18] <nikhil> yup
[15:18] <daftykins> dumle29---: then in the last 8GB make a swap partition
[15:18] <dumle29---> nikhil: Do you mean a name that it shows up as in the file browser?
[15:18] <nikhil> yes exactly
[15:18] <daftykins> sounds like you'll have to change its' mount point
[15:18] <dumle29---> daftykins: There's only 5155mb left
[15:18] <daftykins> dumle29---: that's fine
[15:19] <dumle29---> daftykins: Logical?
[15:19] <daftykins> yep
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  where does it mount to?
[15:19] <dumle29---> daftykins: Done :)
[15:19] <daftykins> that'll make it so / is /dev/sdd1 and swap /dev/sdd5
[15:19] <kimented> hello, i want to install Ubuntu with dualboot with Win8, but i need help
[15:19] <dumle29---> daftykins: Yep :)
[15:20] <daftykins> dumle29---: now, with an SSD it's actually faster to keep /home on the SSD... but symlink the media folders e.g. /home/you/Pictures onto the mechanical disk, so that software configs in /home remain fast
[15:20] <nikhil> MonkeyDust: I'm a beginner of ubuntu so donno exactly what it is
[15:20] <dumle29---> daftykins: Okay, so I just install on the ssd, and then, once installed, add some folders on the spindle, and symlink those? :)
[15:21] <daftykins> dumle29---: so if you now switch the view to sdc, create the remaining space as an ext4 partition again, but make the mount point /media/data or a name of your choosing
[15:21] <nikhil> but the location is /media/nikhil
[15:21] <dumle29---> daftykins: Okay :)
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  in a terminal type    mount    where does the drive mount to?
[15:21] <frezaa> @daftykins paste.ubuntu.com/10597351/
[15:21] <daftykins> dumle29---: so the only thing left is to make sure the bottom of the window, if it refers to which disk to put the bootloader on, should read /dev/sda
[15:22] <dumle29---> daftykins: Logical partition again right? :)
[15:22] <daftykins> dumle29---: if you don't have that you can throw up a screenshot on imgur.com
[15:22] <daftykins> dumle29---: it won't matter either way, logical will become sdc5, primary sdc2
[15:22] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, /dev/sda9
[15:22] <dumle29---> daftykins: Logic then. As I understand it, that's non bootable.
[15:22] <dumle29---> daftykins: And bootloader is on sda :)
[15:23] <dumle29---> daftykins: Then install? :)
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  yes, where does /dev/sda mount to? what is it called in the file browser?
[15:23] <daftykins> frezaa: yeah this is wrong. this is not how to hardcode a domain to an IP
[15:23] <mundotazo> can any help me with a postgress install?
[15:23] <daftykins> dumle29---: yep!
[15:23] <kimented> I cannot boot on any media with my laptop, i cannot access to the bios/uefi  (Win8)
[15:23] <dumle29---> daftykins: Thanks :) See you on the other side :D
[15:23] <mundotazo> I'm getting an error message http://pastebin.com/pVNQmEYv
[15:23] <mundotazo> I was follwing these instructions http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[15:24] <daftykins> mundotazo: yeah those errors aren't actually errors stopping from installing, it installed fine. "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit" please
[15:24] <evgenii> Hi, I have (lenovo u430p; xubuntu 14.04.2). And why don't we have an elegant solution for saving curent brightness monitor on every restart WITHOUT writing a script on startup. And even more we have xfce4-power-manager without that function.
[15:24] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/029cb554b7e26ad45a92 is the output for mount in terminal
[15:25] <daftykins> !pm | frezaa
[15:25] <frezaa> ok
[15:25] <frezaa> no problem
[15:26] <daftykins> frezaa: first off you shouldn't use www's in a config file like that, just "domain.com" is sufficient
[15:26] <frankf> in .bashrc i have HISTSIZE=100000000000000000000000000000 and HISTFILESIZE=200000000000000000000000000 , yet when i run cat .bash_history|wc -l it says 639 lines.. how can i get my bash history to never clear and indefinitely continue to save?
[15:26] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, Got any idea?
[15:26] <frezaa> @daftykins ok
[15:26] <dumle29---> last question before the install (hopefully) If I choose english keyboard layout now, will I be able to easily swap that later? (I'm from Denmark but I use an ANSI keyboard)
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  what is /dev/sda?
[15:27] <nikhil> the name in the file browser is this b062733b-b6cb-46b7-95ce-3a01590eb722
[15:27] <dumle29---> nvm :)
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  and is that your logical drive?
[15:28] <nikhil> yup
[15:28] <frezaa> @daftykins can you tell me whats wrong.i have removed www's
[15:28] <dumle29---> Seriously :o I can install this WHILE using the live image :o
[15:28] <dumle29---> Why didn't I do this sooner!
[15:29] <mines5> What are you doing?
[15:29] <dumle29---> Installing linux :P
[15:29] <mines5> ah
[15:29] <daftykins> frezaa: then in /etc/nsswitch.conf you need to check it says "hosts:          files dns"
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  what you can do: set a new mount point in /etc/fstab
[15:29] <mines5> You can do it easily from a Live Image, just pay attention to how you set it up in the process
[15:30] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, Can you guide me through the process
[15:30] <mines5> Especially if you have dual systems on your computer
[15:30] <mines5> Nik what are you trying to do?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | read this first, so you know what is
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | nikhil read this first, so you know what is
[15:30] <evgenii> who knows some programm to save curent situation with power on/off devices, curent brightness and sound devices
[15:31] <frezaa> @daftykins it says
[15:31] <frezaa> hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[15:31] <rejit> frankf:  try http://fpaste.org/197959/14263470/
[15:31] <mines5> that sounds like hibernate evg
[15:31] <daftykins> frezaa: should be fine, restart
[15:32] <evgenii> no, need way to power off
[15:32] <frezaa> @daftykins computer?
[15:32] <daftykins> yes
[15:32] <frezaa> i have tried that
[15:32] <daftykins> only when your file was wrong
[15:32] <nikhil> the second link is not working ubottu
[15:32] <frezaa> ok i will try again
[15:34] <SiPL> hi i have a question
[15:34] <SiPL> I have 2 HDDs and 1 SSD
[15:34] <SiPL> I have windows on the SSD
[15:34] <SiPL> and Ubuntu on HDD1
[15:34] <SiPL> HDD is formatted as NTFS and i use it on windows
[15:35] <rzyz85fr> Hello, i can't use the nouveau driver for nvidia on my laptop, doesn't someone know well this part?
[15:35] <SiPL> HDD2*
[15:35] <mines5> in order for linux to run it needs an ext* format
[15:35] <SiPL> But i can see that HDD2 on ubuntu too. Can i use it in ubuntu to store files?
[15:35] <mines5> and then you can mount the other drives
[15:35] <rzyz85fr> on utopic 64
[15:36] <daftykins> SiPL: you can manually copy some things to it yes
[15:36] <evgenii> SiPL, yes
[15:36] <mines5> linux can store files on any supported system
[15:36] <SiPL> cool so if i store some android source codes in it will i a
[15:36] <SiPL> be able to compile it
[15:36] <SiPL> ?
[15:36] <mines5> thats iffy
[15:36] <SiPL> whats iffy?
[15:36] <Ibsin> My Ubuntu install seems to be lagging quite a bit on my new laptop....can anyone help?
[15:36] <daftykins> SiPL: bad idea to put something on there that's likely to require Linux permissions
[15:37] <mines5> android runs on Dalvik/Linux whereas Ubuntu runs on GNU/Linux
[15:37] <daftykins> mines5: source code != running that OS :P
[15:37] <SiPL> Can i shrink that volume in windows and create a separate partition with format ext4?
[15:37] <daftykins> SiPL: sure
[15:37] <SiPL> nice then ill do that
[15:39] <Ibsin> Someone?
[15:39] <evgenii> about damn permissions, may u know, why scaner deriver sets as root devie, i must scan on root
[15:39] <mines5> just remember as dafty said, if the file needs linux permissions store it under the linus controlled fle system
[15:39] <erik_> hi
[15:39] <erik_> hi,how i do to report a bug ?the ubuntu is missing the configuration . Not only from my pc but included all my clients that i install the ubuntuThis is a constant bug and fully noted the common user. And it is one of the main reasons of my client desist using ubuntu.You can correct?i am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:39] <daftykins> 'lag' is an overused term nowadays for the most inappropriate of situations, Ibsin - you'll need to be more specific
[15:39] <daftykins> !bug
[15:39] <daftykins> erik_: ^
[15:39] <erik_> yes ?
[15:40] <daftykins> see ubottu's message.
[15:40] <erik_> i see
[15:40] <erik_> i don't like it
[15:40] <daftykins> bad luck then
[15:40] <mines5> be lucky its linux
[15:41] <mines5> someone might actually fix it
[15:41] <Ibsin> Sorry....the HP is has a AMD A8 cpu, AMD RAdeon 8600 series, 1TB hard drive. What seems to happen is that when I move the cursor around, it's almost as if the entire screen hangs up, I can't do a thing, no moving or anything, even with windows open.
[15:41] <erik_> too much bureaucratic
[15:42] <daftykins> erik_: perhaps you can be more specific than "the ubuntu is missing the configuration"
[15:42] <rejit> lsbin: have you installed the ati drivers
[15:43] <daftykins> *AMD ;)
[15:43] <rejit> hmm
[15:43] <evgenii> dear people, am i wrong that xubuntu 14.04.2 can be more power-saving OS than Windows 8
[15:44] <Ibsin> I haven't had the chance to as of yet, but I can give that a shot. Just that how the screen hangs makes almost anything impossible...
[15:44] <ikonia> evgenii: don't see how it can be more/less power saving
[15:44] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, I read the information and I got it
[15:44] <rejit> www
[15:44] <daftykins> Ibsin: run the additional drivers program and see if it offers you some other drivers, i.e. fglrx to try
[15:44] <Ibsin> I'll give that a go then, brb, I'll let you know what happens either way
[15:45] <ikonia> evgenii: power saving will very much depend on your hardware and how well linux (ubuntu in this case) can interact with it
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> nikhil  found what you need?
[15:45] <mines5> ubuntu uses far less power to do what windows does usually
[15:45] <mines5> keyword is usually though
[15:45] <ikonia> mines5: that is not a generic statement
[15:45] <nikhil> yep as you said I can change the mounting point
[15:46] <nikhil> but after changing the mount point what should I do the rename?
[15:46] <mines5> I know Ikonia, when I was running mint/debian it was very crappy as far as power retention was concerned
[15:46] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, PM?
[15:47] <nikhil> lot of disturbance going on :/
[15:47] <mines5> Don't rename your mount point, it'll get linux's knickers in a twist
[15:47] <zacktu> I added xfce4 to my Ubuntu Server.  It doesn't include a printer manager.  What else should I add?
[15:47] <Dumle29> Thanks for the help daftykins:)
[15:48] <rejit> ikonia: you can tweak any linux distro to save power .
[15:48] <erik_> daftying: i set my keyboard  (by default) to portuguese (brasil).
[15:48] <mines5> ^ why?
[15:48] <erik_> daftying: but, when i open again the system, this set become missing
[15:49] <nikhil> MonkeyDust, what happened?
[15:49] <ikonia> rejit: it depends on the hardware
[15:49] <nikhil> are you there?
[15:49] <daftykins> erik_: ok, i don't know anything about that
[15:49] <ikonia> it's not a black and white situation
[15:49] <mines5> He might be away from the keyboard
[15:49] <erik_> daftying:  i am not a developer
[15:49] <evgenii> ikonia, ok, I understand that, can you know what the best fit for my ideapad u430p to save more energy
[15:49] <rejit> ikonia: isnt that obvious?
[15:49] <mines5> Most of us aren't either
[15:49] <mines5> ^ to erik-
[15:49] <daftykins> erik_: i don't know why you would even say that
[15:50] <ikonia> rejit: no, as someone is asking a black and white quesiton
[15:50] <erik_> daftying: my clients always tell to remove the ubuntu because the problem of keyboard
[15:50] <mines5> There should be a way around that, you just have to research the problem erik_
[15:50] <mines5> Google is your friend.
[15:50] <erik_> daftying:  the set show the pt(brasil ) "ABTN2" IS SETUP , BUT IT LIKE NOT
[15:51] <daftykins> erik_: sorry your english is impossible to follow
[15:51] <daftykins> anyway i don't know how to help you so i'm out
[15:51] <erik_> daftying:  ok,  i am trying
[15:51] <mines5> erik_ use google
[15:51] <nikhil> ok, can anyone help me in creating a mount point and then change the name of a partition?
[15:51] <evgenii> may erik_ is my russian frined))
[15:51] <daftykins> nikhil: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[15:51] <erik_> daftying:  hum, bad idea :D
[15:51] <daftykins> nikhil: bit shocked that you're still working on this.
[15:52] <erik_> daftying:  the google translator doesn't translate very well
[15:52] <mines5> if you want to mount something, you need only use the mount command with proper options and arguments
[15:52] <daftykins> erik_: #ubuntu-br
[15:53] <nikhil> daftykins, what is that command for?
[15:53] <daftykins> nikhil: showing me your current mount points so i can find out what you're talking about
[15:53] <mines5> probably something to do with pastebin
[15:54] <mines5> nvm then
[15:54] <nikhil> ok
[15:54] <Dumle29> daftykins: Okay so I'm in my system now :) How would I symlink, such that the places (downloads musci videos etc) are on my spindle? (SDD)
[15:54] <r00t__> why do you guys use and develop ubuntu?
[15:54] <r00t__> and where do you work?
[15:54] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | r00t__
[15:54] <mines5> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:54] <r00t__> Why is there a government backdoor in all linux distros
[15:54] <mines5> woops forgot /
[15:54] <OerHeks> !fud | r00t__
[15:55] <r00t__> I've experienced it firsthand
[15:55] <r00t__> its true
[15:55] <nikhil> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597642/
[15:55] <nikhil> here you go
[15:55] <mines5> does it matter?
[15:55] <OerHeks> r00t__, please take your trolling to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[15:55] <r00t__> the only OS that isnt backdoored is openbsd
[15:55] <r00t__> im not trolling im saving the ppls
[15:55] <mines5> the real question is, why were you even a suspect
[15:55] <daftykins> nikhil: so you currently have a partition coming up as b062733b-b6cb-46b7-95ce-3a01590eb722 correct?
[15:55] <r00t__> from wasting their time with fascists
[15:55] <vinod777> hi when I maximize some applications it is offsetted slightly. How to fix this?
[15:56] <nikhil> yes, exactly
[15:56] <mines5> Please move to #ubuntu-offtopic r00t__
[15:56] <koli> hi
[15:56] <nikhil> and I want to change the name
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> r00t__  wrong channel, not here please
[15:56] <daftykins> nikhil: ok "sudo blkid | pastebinit" and "pastebinit /etc/fstab"
[15:56] <r00t__> really why are you guys ganging up on me do you get paid
[15:56] <r00t__> to offer fascist software support
[15:57] <mines5> Its socialistic
[15:57] <vinod777> I suspect this has to do something with hw acc..
[15:57] <mines5> and go to the proper channel now or I will finda way to have you kicked.
[15:57] <koli> and I want to change the name my pc ?
[15:57] <vinod777> Because for chrome,opera and adobe brackets softwares maximizing will offset
[15:57] <nikhil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597658/
[15:57] <vinod777> when I disable opera hw acceleration, it doesn;t
[15:57] <vinod777> but I want hw acc
[15:58] <nikhil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597659/
[15:58] <daftykins> nikhil: and one more "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[15:58] <koli> help  I want to change the name my pc ?
[15:59] <nikhil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597667/
[15:59] <daftykins> Dumle29: sorry multitasking right now, have a read up on "ln -s"
[15:59] <Dumle29> daftykins: It's cool :) Will do :)
[15:59] <daftykins> nikhil: wow you love your partitions.
[15:59] <nikhil> Hmm, yea a lot
[16:00] <daftykins> nikhil: are you familiar with using text editors in the terminal?
[16:00] <nikhil> not much
[16:00] <mines5> ^
[16:00] <mines5> should learn how to then
[16:00] <nikhil> new to ubuntu
[16:00] <daftykins> nikhil: type "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[16:00] <mines5> nano is your friend'
[16:00] <evgenii> and gedit)
[16:00] <vinod777> is there any fix
[16:00] <mines5> gedit not as useful
[16:00] <daftykins> no lets not use silly GUI text editors to do a simple job :P
[16:01] <daftykins> nikhil: so what do you want the drive to be called?
[16:01] <nikhil> Joshua
[16:01] <vinod777> check this
[16:01] <vinod777> http://imgur.com/Lv9J39b
[16:01] <vinod777> Look at the left of chrome
[16:02] <mines5> nano is beautifully simple and not as stupid as vi
[16:02] <mines5> imho
[16:02] <evgenii> vi is powerfull
[16:02] <mines5> nano does the same job though
[16:02] <m4rshall> any ideas why 'daemon --name=thename --running' is not showing the process i start as a daemon (using daemon --name=thename /etc/the/command) ??
[16:02] <daftykins> nikhil: ok i'd recommend ditching the capital, so if you've run my above command, cursor down to the empty space at the bottom and type in the following two lines. #1 is: "# manual mount of /dev/sda8"
[16:02] <nikhil> OK
[16:03] <evgenii> and i prefer nano too)
[16:03] <vinod777> please
[16:03] <nikhil> I typed # manual mount of /dev/sda8
[16:03] <nikhil> and nothing happened
[16:04] <daftykins> nikhil: one sec, no it won't automatically give you a thousand dollars, we're editing a text file here.
[16:04] <cortex> hi
[16:04] <cortex> how are guys
[16:04] <mines5> Vinod, I'm not sure how to help you, but do you happen to have more than one screen?
[16:05] <incognito> hello
[16:05] <daftykins> nikhil: each of these sections is separate by a tab, so enter the second line: "UUID="b062733b-b6cb-46b7-95ce-3a01590eb722" /media/joshua ext4 rw,user 0 2"
[16:05] <breadmonster> Hey guys, a slight issue.
[16:05] <daftykins> nikhil: so your file should now look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597722/
[16:05] <breadmonster> I'm on 14.04, and it seems that I have a bug that doesn't allow me to connect to the internet for some reason.
[16:06] <daftykins> nikhil: ah actually i made a mistake, delete the " marks beside the UUID
[16:06] <breadmonster> I'm running WPA2 Enterprise at my university.
[16:06] <breadmonster> And it's refusing to let me connect to their default router.
[16:06] <kimented> hi, can someone help me for a dualboot Ubuntu/win8 ?
[16:06] <daftykins> nikhil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597730/ there
[16:06] <rejit> breadmonster: sudo lshw -c network
[16:06] <breadmonster> When I try to connect, the settings dialog box shows a warning about certificates.
[16:06] <breadmonster> And then just freezes.
[16:07] <mines5> breadmonster: have you tried restarting?
[16:07] <breadmonster> rejit: What will that do?
[16:07] <breadmonster> mines5: Yup.
[16:07] <rejit> breadmonster: that will give me the necessary info about your network settings
[16:07] <breadmonster> rejit mines5: okay, so I had a look at /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[16:07] <nikhil> but its not like that? D:
[16:07] <daftykins> nikhil: all done yet?
[16:07] <daftykins> so make it look like it :)
[16:07] <breadmonster> And Stephens-Wireless-2 (the router in question) doesn't have a text file.
[16:08] <nikhil> sorry I didn't enter the second command
[16:08] <mines5> does your computer even see it?
[16:08] <cortex> help us, to help you
[16:08] <Ibsin> Alright, I just installed the drivers, and rebooted for my own sake. Only problem is, even after installing the drivers, the cursor movement along with the UI in general, is still hanging up.
[16:09] <breadmonster> mines5: Yup, it ends up in the connection dialog box, which just freezes. Also, sorry about the replies, I have 7 second lag.
[16:09] <nikhil> yes now its looking like that
[16:09] <daftykins> nikhil: excellent, press ctrl+x to quit, select yes and then press enter on "/etc/fstab" to save the file
[16:09] <mines5> I'm not sure how to help you bread, sorry.
[16:09] <SchrodingersScat> My clock isn't getting time from the internet.  How do I get that working again?
[16:10] <daftykins> nikhil: now close any open windows that are browsing onto that drive, type "sudo mkdir /media/joshua" then "sudo umount /dev/sda8" then "sudo mount -a"
[16:10] <Dixi____> !admin user Incognito is private messaging other users asking for location etc.
[16:10] <mines5> goto the time/date settings and change it to update NTP from the internet
[16:10] <nikhil> ok
[16:10] <daftykins> Dixi____: report that in #ubuntu-ops please
[16:10] <Dixi____> Its forwraded automatically
[16:10] <rejit> breadmonster: try typing this in the terminal ping 8.8.8.8
[16:11] <daftykins> is it 0o didn't know of that function.
[16:11] <rejit> breadmonster: notify me its output
[16:11] <Dixi____> Now you do
[16:11] <daftykins> yep, won't use it though :)
[16:11] <breadmonster> rejit: One second, sorry to keep you waiting, my internet is really slow.
[16:11] <Dixi____> And incognito get outta here!!
[16:11] <nikhil> yep, finished every thing
[16:11] <Dixi____> Youre not welcome here
[16:11] <daftykins> nikhil: now another "mount | pastebinit"
[16:11] <mines5> just like r00t__
[16:11] <daftykins> Dixi____: stop that now thanks.
[16:12] <breadmonster> rejit: It's pinging without an issue.
[16:12] <breadmonster> rejit: Also, I'm tethering from my phone, I can't connect to university wifi.
[16:12] <nikhil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597760/
[16:12] <mines5> uni wifi usually needs you to sign in
[16:12] <daftykins> nikhil: looks perfect now, open the 'files' program and the drive is called 'joshua' probably
[16:12] <breadmonster> rejit: 39/43 packets received.
[16:13] <Dixi____> daftykins: im not having a conversation with you. Please refrain from commenting.
[16:13] <breadmonster> mines5: Yup, but I can't seem to connect to university wifi for some reason.
[16:13] <daftykins> !ot | Dixi____
[16:13] <mines5> does your uni have a response desk?
[16:13] <nikhil> daftykins, I got it. Thank You
[16:13] <vinod777> help pls chec this screenshot --> http://i.imgur.com/Lv9J39b.png The application is offsetted to the right
[16:14] <daftykins> nikhil: no problem, enjoy
[16:14] <mines5> I'd suggest seeing them for help with the wifi, they can potentially help
[16:14] <vinod777> every hardware accelerated apps are offsetted when maximized'
[16:14] <Om> What is the difference between chroot and just plain documentroot, in httpd let s say, user Apache rans the service, it doesn't have any permissions outside docroot. Why is it considered more secure to chroot it? an exploiter wouldn't be able to do much on this (already restriced) user. What am I missing?\
[16:14] <nikhil> I'll be here most of the time because I need to learn ubuntu
[16:15] <nikhil> so if you find time please help me :)
[16:15] <daftykins> nikhil: oh so we'll see a lot more of you will we :P
[16:15] <nikhil> lol yea
[16:15] <rejit> vinod777: try xrandr
[16:15] <OerHeks> nikhil, good start :-)
[16:15] <nikhil> Thanks, OerHeks :)
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> vinod777  arandr is a gui for xrandr
[16:16] <ikonia> Om: totally differen things
[16:16] <vinod777> is this a resolution problem?
[16:16] <Ibsin> Not only is there the hanging issue, but there seems to be every time it boots to the desktop, that a windows pops up saying there was system error....
[16:16] <vinod777> Because this only happens when I manually maximize
[16:16] <Om> ikonia: can you elaborate a bit?
[16:17] <vinod777> if an app is started maximized, it will be correctly positioned
[16:17] <Ara4Sh> Hello
[16:17] <Ara4Sh> http://up.vbiran.ir/uploads/23153142635030343594_Varnish_005.jpg
[16:17] <ikonia> Om: one sets a virtual root enviornment based ona relative directory path, the other is a place to store documents for a web server
[16:17] <Ara4Sh> Unreliable DMA position
[16:17] <vinod777> Also when offsetted, all controls are offsetted, mouse positions are not offsetted so hovering is also offssetted
[16:18] <rejit> Om: in simple computer science term, neither apache nor its subprocess will be able to access anything above the chroot directory level
[16:19] <Om> rejit: and techinacally the Apache user, no chrooted, could ?
[16:19] <breadmonster> rejit: No issues with the ping.
[16:20] <Ibsin> I'd like to get those issues resolved, but, I'm at a tital loss as to what to do...
[16:20] <breadmonster> It's not a hardware problem, I dual boot with Win8 and the internet on that works just fine.
[16:21] <rejit> Om: the intention here is to block script kiddies sniffing the internet ports from doing mischievous activities.
[16:21] <breadmonster> rejit: as for the lshw output, here http://lpaste.net/3812951925347844096
[16:23] <breadmonster> rejit: It won't let me connect to anything.
[16:23] <rejit> breadmonster: are you sure you are authenticated?
[16:23] <breadmonster> Do you want me to send you screenshots?
[16:23] <breadmonster> rejit: It won't authenticate.
[16:23] <Ibsin> The speed of the hard drive wouldn't have anything to do with the hanging up, could it? Cause the 1TB I have is only 5400 rpm
[16:23] <breadmonster> It freezes at the no CA found dialog box.
[16:24] <daftykins> Ibsin: no
[16:25] <rejit> breadmonster: what happens when you scan the net ? sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:26] <Ara4Sh> any body pay attention to me ?
[16:26] <breadmonster> rejit: I can see three routers.
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> Ara4Sh  start with a question
[16:27] <rejit> try connecting and then provide me the output of this command dmesg | tail
[16:27] <vinod777> @rejit
[16:28] <rejit> yes vinod777
[16:28] <vinod777> it is an application maximize problem
[16:28] <vinod777> if it is started already maximized, it won't be offsetted
[16:29] <vinod777> when I restore and then maximise, it just offset. The buttons are also offsetted so they show hover state when the pointer is not above it
[16:29] <nickerSLAVEgg> hi all
[16:30] <vinod777> rejit: it is like this for all hw accelerated apps, chrome, opera, adobe brackets etc..
[16:30] <vinod777> rejit: but there are no prblems for other apps. WHen i disabled hw acc for opera, it didn't have the problem
[16:30] <rejit> vinod777: that was my next suggestion , to disable hw accelerated
[16:31] <Ara4Sh> i asked my question
[16:31] <nickerSLAVEgg> where can i dl keygen for ubuntu?
[16:31] <Ara4Sh> Unreliable DMA Position on Xen : http://up.vbiran.ir/uploads/23153142635030343594_Varnish_005.jpg
[16:31] <Ara4Sh> im now stocked
[16:31] <rejit> vinod777: it could possibly be a bug in some package , just wait patiently for a systemwide update .
[16:31] <vinod777> I want hw acceleration for these
[16:32] <Na3iL> hey, what's the big steps to be an official Ubuntu member?
[16:32] <vinod777> ok
[16:32] <vinod777> thanks for your time
[16:32] <rejit> vinod777: always a pleasure :)
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> Na3iL  do you want to contribute to ubuntu?
[16:34] <Ara4Sh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10597920/
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> Ara4Sh  Xen is server technology, there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:35] <Na3iL> I already contribute to Ubuntu MonkeyDust by fixing bugs and helping in translation.. also I did many events to spread the Ubuntu philosophy and the free software :)
[16:35] <ikonia> Na3iL: there is no real benifit to being a member in my opinion, however
[16:35] <ikonia> !member | Na3iL \\
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[16:37] <ikonia> all just muted the channel for a few minutes to tidy up these spammers
[16:37] <ikonia> won't be a few minutes, sorry for the disraction
[16:37] <ikonia> mutes been removed
[16:38] <nickerSLAVEgg> wtf
[16:38] <Dreaman> lames
[16:38] <ikonia> you can talk again now, sorry about that
[16:38] <Na3iL> ty ikonia np
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ok  was wondering why i couldn't senfdto channel
[16:38] <BluesKaj> err send to
[16:38] <ikonia> mass spam attack, sorry breadmonster
[16:38] <ikonia> BluesKaj: even
[16:39] <breadmonster> ikonia: All cool.
[16:39] <BluesKaj> np ikonia , doesn't hurt to clean house periodically :)
[16:39] <breadmonster> rejit: Okay, sorry about that, can I PM?
[16:40] <breadmonster> ikonia: Do you mind giving me a slight hand?
[16:40] <breadmonster> I'm having some wifi issues.
[16:41] <ikonia> breadmonster: just ask the channel
[16:41] <ikonia> someone will help if they can, rather than target individuals
[16:41] <breadmonster> Cool, okay.
[16:42] <breadmonster> Okay, is there a command for trying to connect to an access point from the command line?
[16:42] <ikonia> breadmonster: are you using an X11 desktop ?
[16:42] <ikonia> breadmonster: as in a desktop enviornment ?
[16:42] <breadmonster> Yup.
[16:42] <breadmonster> GNOME on 14.04 to be precise.
[16:42] <ikonia> breadmonster: ok, so gnome-network-manager should manage all this
[16:42] <erik_> hi, again
[16:43] <erik_> we need resolve this problem of keyboard
[16:43] <breadmonster> ikonia: command not found
[16:43] <breadmonster> ?
[16:43] <ikonia> breadmonster: command not found ? what command did you type ?
[16:44] <breadmonster> ikonia: gnome-network-manager
[16:44] <ikonia> thats not a command sorry, thats the little network manager icon in the top right of your screen
[16:45] <breadmonster> ikonia: Is there a way to do it from the command line?
[16:45] <breadmonster> I'm aware of the network manager, but I'd prefer to do it from the command line.
[16:45] <ikonia> breadmonster: why ?
[16:45] <breadmonster> the network manager freezes.
[16:46] <breadmonster> Also, I'm trying to learn command line tools.
[16:46] <ikonia> what do you mean freezes
[16:46] <ikonia> breadmonster: if network manager is controlling your network stack (which it is) trying to fight it with the command line, is a bad idea
[16:48] <Om> rejit: So let's say I have httpd chrooted, the script kiddie could just the same exploit port 80 and run anything that has 'everyone' read/execute perms, right?
[16:48] <hoodedice> I forgot the name of that package/app you use when you need to nuke ubuntu completely and boot to windows directly
[16:49] <breadmonster> ikonia: when I click on the access point I want to connect to, I get a dialog asking me for connection settings.
[16:49] <hoodedice> It starts with an "L"
[16:49] <breadmonster> Which I fill, and then something about no CA certificate or something pops up.
[16:49] <ikonia> breadmonster: ok, so what happens if you fill them in ?
[16:49] <breadmonster> Then the window just freezes, and it refuses to work.
[16:49] <ikonia> breadmonster: ok so "something like" is not really helpful, get the exact error message/problem
[16:49] <ikonia> breadmonster: you can't expect people to spend time helping you with important details such as the error message being given as "something like"
[16:49] <ph88> hey guys i use this answer to add a format option http://askubuntu.com/a/263565  but it's not showing up..what can i do about it ?
[16:50] <breadmonster> ikonia: Okay, one second, let me screenshot and upload?
[16:50] <ikonia> breadmonster: don't need a screen shot
[16:50] <ikonia> breadmonster: just need the error message
[16:50] <breadmonster> Yeah, still give me a second, I'll have to disconnect this router. brb
[16:52] <Ara4Sh> i appreciate any body can help me
[16:53] <breadmonster> ikonia: One second, I've got the error.
[16:53] <ikonia> Ara4Sh: no-one knows until you ask a question
[16:53] <breadmonster> "No Certificate Authority certificate chosen"
[16:54] <ZIPY> hey, does someone know how to use acestreamengine?
[16:54] <ikonia> breadmonster: so that suggests to me, that the CA used to sign the cert it's using to auth isn't there/selected
[16:54] <breadmonster> ikonia: "Not using a Certificate Authority (CA) certificate can result in connections to insecure rogue Wi-Fi networks. Would you like to choose a Certificate Authorrty certificate?"
[16:54] <chal_ddx> I got this when trying to install android studio , http://s24.postimg.org/yfdzfv6bp/Screenshot_from_2015_03_14_16_52_34.png
[16:54] <chal_ddx> what should i do
[16:54] <ikonia> breadmonster: sounds like it's hanging waiting for you to chose a CA
[16:54] <breadmonster> ikonia: Yup. Now that part of the screen is frozen. I simply can't click on ignore.
[16:55] <ikonia> breadmonster: if you alt tab do the windows move/change
[16:55] <breadmonster> ikonia: Yup.
[16:55] <breadmonster> It's only that window that's frozen.
[16:55] <ikonia> thats interesting.
[16:55] <ikonia> is the window totally greyed out
[16:56] <ikonia> or is it still active
[16:56] <breadmonster> ikonia: Only the network manager hangs, not the rest.
[16:56] <breadmonster> ikonia: I'll send you a screenshot, one second.
[16:58] <breadmonster> ikonia:
[16:58] <breadmonster> http://imgur.com/DHkIUOl
[16:58] <ikonia> breadmonster: and nothing in that box responses ?
[16:58] <nikhil> daftykins, are you there?
[16:59] <breadmonster> Nope, neither button will let me click.
[16:59] <ikonia> does the don't warn me again tick box work
[16:59] <breadmonster> Nope.
[17:00] <ikonia> breadmonster: I suspect there is something behind it / popup that's holding focus
[17:00] <ikonia> eg: something you have to press say "ok" on before you can interact with that
[17:00] <breadmonster> ikonia: Interestingly enough, /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections doesn't have a file related to this network.
[17:00] <ikonia> breadmonster: it won't until it's completed
[17:00] <ikonia> and you've not completed it yet
[17:00] <breadmonster> Oh okay.
[17:01] <breadmonster> ikonia: Any ideas?
[17:01] <ikonia> breadmonster: I'd certainly try messing around with alt/tab to try to see if there is a hidden window behind it
[17:01] <breadmonster> ikonia: Can I make the file manually?
[17:01] <ikonia> breadmonster: I'd also try to put the CA cert in place so it doesn't ask for it
[17:02] <breadmonster> ikonia: I don't think the university has a CA cert.
[17:02] <ikonia> breadmonster: I'd consider logging a bug against the ubuntu version you're using network-manager package
[17:02] <mines5> is there any reason why audio quits out in the GUI shell if I'm logged into one of the terminal shells?
[17:02] <ikonia> breadmonster: I suspect the uni does have a CA
[17:02] <ikonia> breadmonster: is this eduroam by any chance ?
[17:02] <breadmonster> ikonia: Nope, I'm not in the States.
[17:02] <ikonia> breadmonster: I'd certainly ask the uni network team if they have a CA
[17:03] <mines5> CA?
[17:03] <breadmonster> ikonia: I asked my local administrator for a CA, and he didn't know what I was talking about.
[17:03] <ikonia> it's probably a self signed one
[17:03] <EriC^^> mines5, usually when i login to the tty the music resumes if it's the same user
[17:03] <ikonia> breadmonster: the guys who setup the wireless AP will know
[17:03] <ikonia> breadmonster: raise a ticket/request
[17:03] <mines5> Its if I leave it logged in and I switch to the GUI
[17:03] <ikonia> that one guy may not know
[17:03] <mines5> and it doesn't start working again until I log out
[17:03] <breadmonster> ikonia: So I think I have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285234/cannot-connect-to-wpa2-wpa-enterprise-peap-and-mschap
[17:03] <EriC^^> mines5, you mean you started it in the terminal?
[17:04] <mines5> no
[17:04] <EriC^^> mines5, oh
[17:04] <EriC^^> when you log back into the gui, the music stops?
[17:04] <breadmonster> Except I fixed it the time around, but then I wanted to spoof my MAC ID, so I set up mac cloning via the dialog screen.
[17:04] <breadmonster> and now it's just not working :(
[17:04] <mines5> I logged into terminal, and when I goto play music on something like youtube, the audio stops working
[17:04] <ikonia> breadmonster: I see nothing in that askubuntu question that relates to a missing CA cert or network manager hanging
[17:05] <mines5> after having switched to the GUI
[17:05] <nikhil> can anyone help me to find proper drivers for intel built in graphics card?
[17:05] <nikhil> for ubuntu
[17:05] <breadmonster> ikonia: No, what I mean is that I used to have that problem initially too.
[17:05] <ikonia> breadmonster: you could try answer 2 / 3 to resolve this, but I wouldn't recommend that
[17:05] <breadmonster> I fixed it by modifying my network configuration file, and everything went well.
[17:06] <BluesKaj> it should be installed by default , nikhil , usually the i915 driver for most intel gpus
[17:06] <ikonia> breadmonster: "the network configuration file' ??
[17:07] <nikhil> ok, but my card has extendable graphic memory form 256mb to 780 mb but it does not extend, why?
[17:07] <breadmonster> ikonia: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[17:07] <breadmonster> The file in there.
[17:07] <nikhil> in windows when I install drivers it extends to 768mb
[17:07] <breadmonster> removing `system-ca-cert = true` worked for me.
[17:07] <breadmonster> ikonia: But then I tried to change one of the settings by telling Ubuntu to clone my MAC address.
[17:08] <Harby> hola
[17:08] <nikhil> BluesKaj, in win 7 the memory is 768 but in ubuntu its 256
[17:08] <breadmonster> ikonia: It wasn't working, so I forgot the network, and then the next time I tried to set it up, this happened.
[17:09] <romps> Hello all!
[17:09] <breadmonster> ikonia: So since then I've had this problem.
[17:10] <romps> I have a quick question regarding Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS, configured with a VPN.
[17:10] <nickerSLAVEgg> sure romps go ahead
[17:10] <romps> I am using Ubuntu Desktop and I was able to configure my VPN using the built in Network Manager.
[17:10] <BluesKaj> nikhil, set OpenGL to at least 2.0
[17:11] <romps> I then went into my Wired Connection 1 (eth0) settings in the Networking GUI and under general selected to automatically connect to VPN when using this connection.
[17:12] <romps> and great that works very well, it connects and connects to the VPN
[17:12] <romps> the only issue I am seeing is that I have to manually click the Network button and click Wired Connection 1 to connect.
[17:12] <breadmonster> ikonia: any ideas?
[17:12] <romps> If lets say it gets disconnected or I reboot, I always have to manually reconnect it.
[17:12] <nikhil> BluesKaj, can you give me the command ?
[17:13] <ikonia> breadmonster: what the hell are you doing trying to clone your mac address ?
[17:13] <romps> I would like a way to get it to automatically reconnect.
[17:13] <ikonia> breadmonster: it sounds like you're making problems doing odd things
[17:13] <nickerSLAVEgg> romps have you tried a virus scan? your computer may be infected with malware
[17:14] <breadmonster> ikonia: I thought uni wifi had my MAC address blocked.
[17:14] <romps> huh... Malware?
[17:14] <breadmonster> long story.
[17:15] <breadmonster> ikonia: at any rate, is there a way I can connect from command line?
[17:15] <breadmonster> That might help.
[17:15] <breadmonster> I think this is a network manager bug.
[17:15] <BluesKaj> nikhil, http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-QualitySettings.html
[17:15] <ikonia> breadmonster: the command line is not your problem
[17:16] <nikhil> ok, i'll read that
[17:16] <ikonia> breadmonster: again trying to fight network manager is a bad idea
[17:16] <ikonia> breadmonster: if the uni has blocked your mac - contact your uni, don't try to spoof the mac
[17:16] <breadmonster> ikonia: Yeah, it hasn't.
[17:16] <breadmonster> :P
[17:16] <breadmonster> But this is a problem on my end, and network manager has some serious bug.
[17:17] <ikonia> breadmonster: so I've given you suggestions on how to deal with this
[17:18] <breadmonster> ikonia: Either get the certificate?
[17:18] <ikonia> breadmonster: that would be a good start, as would logging a detailed bug about it
[17:18] <breadmonster> Okay, cool.
[17:20] <ikonia> breadmonster: as I've said I believe this may be a simple issue of a hidden dialog, so try messing with alt/tab to see if you can get it, I suspect it's just an "ok" prompt
[17:20] <sallu> Ahmad
[17:20] <breadmonster> Alt-tab only shows four things.
[17:20] <sallu> Ahmad
[17:20] <ikonia> sallu: what ?
[17:21] <narfnarfnarf> What’s the meaning of the {a} suffix behind a kernel name?
[17:21] <Ahmad> Hi ikonu
[17:21] <sallu> Ikonia i am on phone
[17:21] <breadmonster> ikonia: If I can make the file manually, will that sidestep the issue?
[17:21] <sallu> Sorry leaving
[17:21] <ikonia> breadmonster: depends
[17:21] <nickerSLAVEgg> hi
[17:21] <ikonia> breadmonster: possibly though
[17:21] <breadmonster> ikonia: How do I make the file manually?
[17:21] <ikonia> breadmonster: know the settings and put them into a text file
[17:22] <breadmonster> I know the connection settings.
[17:22] <breadmonster> ikonia: Alright, thanks a ton (:
[17:23] <nikhil> BluesKaj, I can't understand what you suggested?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> nikhil, suggest you do some reading on graphics settings in Unity or whatever desktop you're running
[17:26] <nikhil> BluesKaj, I'm running ubuntu 14.1 and I can't unity setting anywhere
[17:27] <nikhil> can't find*
[17:29] <nikhil> BluesKaj, any idea? gtg
[17:30] <nikhil> Ok, laters everyone cya. And thanks for help BluesKaj :)/
[17:31] <BluesKaj> nikhil,  http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2014/10/24/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-10-utopic-unicorn/
[17:33] <yeowza_> What is the correct way to write pointers?  int* foo = 0; or int *foo = 0; ?
[17:34] <nikhil> yeowza_ ,bother are correct btw
[17:34] <nikhil> both*
[17:35] <yeowza_> I've been reading tutorials and some people write it one way and some the other.  I think the first is easier to understand but then if you do char** foo that gets confusing
[17:36] <Zarthus> whatever your style guide recommends you use is generally the way you should go
[17:37] <nikhil> cya guys
[17:37] <Zarthus> if you have no style guide, you can look for some that big companies use or just go with what you like the best
[17:37] <romps> Anyone have any ideas on how I can get my ubuntu network connection + VPN to automatically reconnect?
[17:37] <mullersa> hello
[17:38] <mullersa> guys , i'm having a problem with the display options
[17:39] <mullersa> I'm using a TV as a second monitor , but the system detected it as 42" while it is in fact 40"
[17:43] <brincapozos> holas
[17:44] <brincapozos> alguien sabe que hacer para que funcione esta web?  http://yomvi.plus.es/busqueda/?texto=oxido%2520nitroso
[17:44] <brincapozos> instalé mono y silverlight y nada
[17:45] <tonyt> is there a translation bot in here ? lol
[17:45] <jhutchins> !es
[17:45] <brincapozos> ok sorry
[17:45] <jhutchins> brincapozos: de nada.
[17:50] <boriseto> so, can somebody explain me if there is a difference between hibernate and restore session? and why are both disabled in ubuntu?
[17:51] <daftykins> they'd only be disabled if you failed to create a swap partition that matches your RAM size, boriseto
[17:51] <Dumle29> Hey there. Is TRIM support included in ubuntu utopic unicorn?
[17:51] <daftykins> TRIM has been in for years
[17:52] <Dumle29> daftykins: Thanks :P Coming from looking at using arch as the first OS, I just sorta asume nothing is included :P
[17:52] <daftykins> Dumle29: it's in the kernel, so it's not distro specific 0o
[17:52] <boriseto> daftykins, I see. Well the ram is around 3.8 or something, and the swap is 4gb but still disabled. I'm guessing it has to be double the ram. And I've tried enabling hibernate but some of the permissions mess with my wifi card.
[17:52] <Dumle29> daftykins: Oh. Well okay then :)
[17:53] <jhutchins> Dumle29: It really isn't necessary to do any tuning for ssds in recent releases.
[17:53] <Dumle29> jhutchins: Awesome! :D
[17:53] <daftykins> boriseto: what do you have installed?
[17:54] <boriseto> daftykins, Ubuntu 14.04
[17:54] <jhutchins> Dumle29: Both the hardware and the software support for it have improved.
[17:54] <Dumle29> Okay, another question. My Logitech G600 mouse isn't working. It's the same that it does in windows sometimes (there's 3rd part drivers that has to be loaded I'm asuming) Any idea on getting it to work in nix?
[17:55] <Dumle29> The mouse moves yes. But about as slowly as it can, I can scroll, but not click
[17:58] <JohnnyL> Why does Ubuntu require -P OUTPUT -j ACCEPT?
[17:58] <JohnnyL> Whereas debian it works regardless?
[18:05] <jhutchins> !iptables
[18:06] <TheNumb> jhutchins: he left.
[18:06] <jhutchins> Not sure why it would be different, the kernels are standard, but Debian and Ubuntu do patch differently.
[18:07] <jnxd> Hi. I am trying to add a kubuntu 15.04 beta 1 to my laptop which already has a ubuntugnome 14.04 installed. Has anyone tried such thing, and how safe/unsafe is it?
[18:07] <rypervenche> His default policy probably wasn't set to accept.
[18:08] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu+1 | jnxd
[18:16] <ace2race> my softwre center keeps freezing my computer and then i half to restart
[18:17] <rudy18> quit
[18:17] <ace2race> my softwre center keeps freezing my computer and then i half to restart
[18:17] <ace2race> how do i fix it
[18:17] <ObrienDave> !patience | ace2race
[18:18] <ace2race> no i repeated because it didnt look like it sent to the chat
[18:18] <ObrienDave> ace2race, easiest way is to purge software center and re-install
[18:18] <ace2race> how do i do that
[18:19] <kostkon> !reisub | ace2race, next time you could try this
[18:20] <ObrienDave> ace2race, in terminal, sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center
[18:21] <kostkon> ace2race, you could do an apt-get clean first: sudo apt-get clean
[18:21] <Dumle29> Trying to install the NVidia drivers for my card, but there seems to be no lightdm service to stop (but theres still an x server running) sudo stop gdm leaves me with a black screen
[18:21] <ObrienDave> that might work also
[18:21] <ace2race> what dose clean do?
[18:22] <rypervenche> ace2race: man apt-get will give a good explanation :)
[18:23] <ObrienDave> gotta love those man pages
[18:23] <kostkon> ace2race, clear the cache to make sure apt-get will download from the repos a fresh copy of the softare centre packge
[18:24] <ace2race> oh
[18:26] <ace2race> thanks i didnt freeze up this time..
[18:26] <ace2race> all better now:)
[18:27] <quillford> can someone help with this? I get this error message anytime I try to run anything with apt-get http://hastebin.com/deyesazubu.avrasm
[18:27] <ace2race> can i try Alt+PRintScreen REISUB to see if it works for fun?
[18:27] <ObrienDave> ace2race, sure, have fun with that
[18:27] <kostkon> ace2race, yes, i guess. Just wait a couple of second between key presses
[18:28] <kostkon> seconds*
[18:28] <ace2race> cool ok :)
[18:28] <Dumle29> I'm trying to install Nvidias drivers for my card, but there's no lightdm service running. The driver installer still says there's an e
[18:28] <Dumle29> there's an x server running though, so what would that be?
[18:29] <bekks> Dumle29: How are you trying to install the nvidia drivers?
[18:29] <Dumle29> bekks: ctrl+alt+F1, then trying to stop the x server, then running the .run file
[18:30] <Dumle29> It should be mentioned that I'm running ubuntu gnome
[18:30] <bekks> Dumle29: Why dont you use the nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos?
[18:30] <bekks> Dumle29: if you are using Ubuntu Gnome, you are most likely using gdm, not lightdm.
[18:30] <quillford> can someone help with this? I get this error message anytime I try to run anything with apt-get http://hastebin.com/deyesazubu.avrasm
[18:31] <Dumle29> bekks: I just went to nvidias site and got them there. Didn't know ubuntu repos had the official version
[18:31] <bekks> !nvidia | Dumle29
[18:31] <ace2race> is alt+printscreen  reisub part of ubuntu or is part of the computer?
[18:31] <bekks> Dumle29: This isnt Windows, you dont need a gazillion sites to download stuff from :)
[18:31] <Dumle29> bekks: Ah, yeah I tried sudo stop gdm. That left me with a black screen. I'll take a look at that link
[18:31] <Dumle29> bekks: heh :P
[18:31] <Dumle29> bekks: Keyboard shortcut for that exploded view of windows open?
[18:31] <rypervenche> ace2race: It's part of the kernel. sysrq key.
[18:32] <EriC^^> ace2race, ubuntu
[18:32] <ace2race> is the kernal part of my os?
[18:32] <kostkon> ace2race, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key  ;)
[18:32] <kostkon> ace2race, yes
[18:32] <ace2race> ok
[18:32] <ObrienDave> ace2race, the kernel IS the OS
[18:32] <ace2race> got it
[18:33] <ace2race> and what do i do if my hard drive clicks and dosent boot?
[18:33] <ObrienDave> not much other than formatting the drive or buying a new one
[18:33] <rypervenche> ace2race: Probably broken hardware.
[18:33] <ace2race> can i fix it?
[18:33] <ObrienDave> probably not
[18:34] <kostkon> ace2race, when a hard drive make a clicking sound it usually means the drive is busted. Only option is to buy a new one
[18:34] <kostkon> makes*
[18:34] <rypervenche> ace2race: Doubt it. You'd have to take it to some place to extract the data, and it is very expensive. $800-$1000+
[18:34] <ObrienDave> you can try a low-level format. will take HOURS to do
[18:34] <rypervenche> ace2race: Always keep backups^^
[18:35] <ObrienDave> usually the "click of death" is just that
[18:35] <ace2race> its ok the hard drive didnt have much on it
[18:35] <ace2race> and i figured that out the hard way when my laptop crashed and lost weeks of work
[18:36] <daftykins> ace2race: you can confirm its' death by running some commands, if you are typing from this system
[18:36] <ace2race> i can only have one harddrive in my computer at a time and im using my good one right now
[18:37] <ace2race> i dont ha ve a cable to hook up my other one
[18:37] <daftykins> ok, well you could swap and boot from a flash drive live session to confirm
[18:37] <daftykins> but yeah, sounds pretty likely ;)
[18:38] <ace2race> and how do i put an iso file on a usb manualy?
[18:38] <ObrienDave> you don't. use unetbootin
[18:38] <JoshuaR2B> I use DD for that
[18:39] <daftykins> plug it in, download the ISO... use "sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M" where sdX = your flash drive (confirm with "sudo parted -l"
[18:39] <ace2race> can i get dd from my software center
[18:39] <daftykins> it's already installed
[18:39] <ObrienDave> yea, yea, DD will work also
[18:39] <JoshuaR2B> ace2race, yes apt-get remove software-center
[18:39] <daftykins> JoshuaR2B: don't advise someone to do that, please.
[18:40] <ace2race> i will not remove my softwre center
[18:40] <daftykins> ace2race: ignore JoshuaR2B, seems to be troll advice o'clock
[18:40] <JoshuaR2B> daftykins, why? I've nevered used the software center myself and remove it that way
[18:40] <daftykins> that is not what you were asked how to do
[18:42] <JoshuaR2B> Well he asked if he could remove it I answered and even said how to do so. I figured that would prevent a future question as well.
[18:43] <Guest4845> why ubuntu moving towards systemd..?
[18:43] <ntsp> Guest4845 every major distro is drifting towards systemd
[18:43] <mainbrain> questions about burning DVD's from torrent downloads in ubuntu 14.10 is it possible
[18:43] <JoshuaR2B> Because debian is moving and as a sysadmin it's easier to deal with systemd rather than upstart
[18:44] <ObrienDave> mainbrain, yes, it's possible and fairly easy to do
[18:45] <Guest4845> what is the difference between intit and systemd
[18:46] <mainbrain> i tried burning with several program it will run through process but cant get anything to read disk
[18:47] <BluesKaj> !systemd
[18:47] <JoshuaR2B> mainbrain, I find xfburn does CD's quite well from ISOs but I've never used dvds for iso images
[18:48] <Dumle29> bekks: The ubunto program only supplies up to nvidia 331.113. The latest is 340+
[18:48] <Dumle29> ubuntu*
[18:48] <mainbrain> how about torrent movies
[18:48] <ph88> hey guys i use this answer to add a format option http://askubuntu.com/a/263565  but it's not showing up..what can i do about it ?
[18:48] <BluesKaj> Dumle29, which ubuntu version?
[18:48] <Dumle29> BluesKaj: 14.10 gnome
[18:48] <JoshuaR2B> mainbrain, ubuntu comes with transmission preinstalled
[18:49] <milz> Hey getting this: http://pastebin.com/4dSZ8L7i when trying to run steam, does anyone know what i can do?
[18:49] <ObrienDave> mainbrain, you need to see if there is  a setting to "finalize" the disk when done burning
[18:49] <daftykins> !elementary | milz
[18:49] <mainbrain> yes but having probelm burnung and getting the disk to read in player
[18:50] <milz> ty just thought it might be faster here
[18:50] <daftykins> mainbrain: perhaps you should buy these films legally
[18:50] <daftykins> milz: nope, sorry
[18:50] <Dumle29> gotta go for a few minutes. brb
[18:51] <BluesKaj> yes , nvidia- 331 is probly the reommended driver, but it works well, unless you're a steam gamer and use a high-end nvidia gpu
[18:51] <ikonia> ad/win 7
[18:51] <mainbrain> well daftykins dont you think they steal enough of americans money and time for some get back
[18:52] <daftykins> mainbrain: this isn't the place for your opinions on that i'm afraid :)
[18:52] <dnano91> hi, yesterday i installed upgrades and accidently uninstalled the kernel (thoght a new one would be installed). after installing it through chroot, the system boots, but doesn't accept any input. not through touchpad, keyboard or usb mouse
[18:52] <ikonia> mainbrain: what ?
[18:52] <ObrienDave> mainbrain, i would suggest more research about burning DVDs and such
[18:54] <dnano91> any idea what might cause this? it's not frozen though, because it goes into standby cause i don't input anything
[18:54] <mainbrain> well if ya scared say you scared or just get you ass behind proxy
[18:54] <mainbrain> sorry guys just not a follower of the rules of your government
[18:54] <elitebattle> Dnano91: have you checked your bios to make sure that they are enabled?
[18:55] <ObrienDave> 5,4,3,2,1.....
[18:55] <daftykins> mainbrain: we're from all over the world, so again - please no politics here :)
[18:56] <neil_> I have a script that I am trying to execute via ssh from a remote computer, when I execute the script from locally, it executes and exits immediately, when I use ssh to execute the command ssh never returns... anyone know why?
[18:56] <dnano91> elitebattle: that what is enabled? keyboard? i have never seen any options to disable them. also i haven't changed anything in the bios
[18:57] <elitebattle> dnano91: Are you using a desktop or laptop?
[18:59] <dnano91> elitebattle: laptop
[18:59] <mainbrain> no politics linux is opensource "free" and will be that way til we the people give in just kills me to hear someone says they afraid
[19:02] <JohnnyL> Why doesn't -s or -o options under OUTPUT work under Ubuntu but works under Debian?
[19:02] <JohnnyL> (for iptables)
[19:03] <elitebattle> dnano91: the only thing I know of then would be to attempt a reinstall.
[19:03] <TheNumb> JohnnyL:
[19:03] <JohnnyL> I mean to say: Why doesn't -s or -o options for OUTPUT work under debian,but not ubuntu using iptables?
[19:03] <TheNumb> !iptables
[19:04] <JohnnyL> thenumb !ls
[19:04] <JohnnyL> !ls
[19:05] <JohnnyL> TheNumb: ok , so what your saying is tha ubuntu doesn't fully support iptables.
[19:05] <TheNumb> no
[19:05] <TheNumb> ,_,
[19:05] <TheNumb> JohnnyL: disable ufw and try again.
[19:06] <JohnnyL> TheNumb: that example uses OUTPUT as accept.
[19:07] <JohnnyL> sudo ufw status verbose
[19:07] <JohnnyL> Status: inactive
[19:07] <JohnnyL> sudo ufw status verbose
[19:07] <JohnnyL> Status: inactive
[19:07] <JohnnyL> sudo ufw status verbose
[19:07] <JohnnyL> Status: inactive
[19:07] <kostkon> !paste | JohnnyL
[19:07] <TheNumb> !ban | JohnnyL
[19:08] <TheNumb> ;x
[19:09] <amin> hello
[19:11] <amin> hey  i have an issue that is bugging me quiet some time
[19:11] <TheNumb> amin: and that would be...?
[19:11] <amin> i have horizontal lines on some icons
[19:11] <amin> i dont know how to fix it
[19:11] <JohnnyL> So -o and or -s and -t filter doesn't work in iptables using OUTPUT under Ubuntu (but works in debian).
[19:12] <JohnnyL> I smell kernel manipulations.
[19:12] <ObrienDave> amin, toggle a different icon set
[19:12] <amin> its not all the time
[19:15] <amin> its not only the icons but also the cross on the top left of every window
[19:16] <amin> hello ?
[19:17] <blackangelpr> are you using the open drivers or propietary ones?
[19:17] <amin> the open ones
[19:17] <blackangelpr> if i was you i will try rezise the unity bar and then if do not work another drivers :p
[19:18] <amin> that didn't help
[19:19] <adrian_> Hello, I want to remove some old kernels because Ubuntu doesn't do it on its own anymore and they start piling up. What I want to know is if I can also delete the old "linux-image-extra" except for the most recent ones, like I can with the regular kernel images.
[19:19] <Na3iL> hey folks! who had any idea as a project to contribute on Ubuntu?
[19:19] <TheNumb> amin: maybe the cable is broken.
[19:19] <JohnnyL> ok fail
[19:19] <blackangelpr> amin, dead pixel test just in case http://jasonfarrell.com/misc/deadpixeltest.php
[19:22] <amin> there are no dead pixels
[19:24] <adrian_> Never mind, removing the kernel-images automatically suggest the corresponding kernel-image-extras for removal, so my question had been answered.
[19:24] <freeroute> hi, I have alias ll='ls -l --all --human-readable --classify --show-control-chars --group-directories-first --color=auto' however whenever I try to do ll /media using autocompletion it first autocompletes a local dir. What's weird is that it's the same config but the difference is that completion is failing on Ubuntu 14.04 but works in 12.04. What's more is that it appears to only happen over SSH. Shell =
[19:24] <freeroute> bash and bash_completion is installed.
[19:26] <freeroute> for example, ll /ro doesn't autocomplete while ls /ro autocompletes the argument to /root
[19:27] <amin> ????
[19:29] <JohnnyL> aparently ubuntu users don't care about filtering OUTPUT under
[19:29] <JohnnyL> ubuntu
[19:29] <lodiz> Hi, i have a tiny problem/question... I have a asus laptop with a discrete nvidia 860m gpu. im running ubuntu 14.04 with gnome shell and edgers ppa nvidia drivers 346.47. when i hover my mouse to the top of the screen the cursor disappers. can it be fixed?
[19:31] <lodiz> using gdm instead of lightdm also breaks nvidia-prime so i cant load nvidia driver.
[19:31] <lodiz> the problem with the mouse cursor does not ocur when using intel gpu.
[19:32] <TheNumb> lodiz: does that happen when you use drivers from the ubuntu repository?
[19:33] <lodiz> TheNumb: not when using mesa driver, cant get the driver from ubuntu repo to work
[19:35] <lodiz> TheNumb: im pretty sure its the nvidia 346.47 driver thats the problem.
[19:35] <TheNumb> most likely
[19:35] <TheNumb> I remember some arch users were having problems with that particular version in gnome shell.
[19:37] <lodiz> ahh... do you know what version i could use instead? thought that i was forced to use that nvidia version. dont know if earlier versions support ny gpu
[19:43] <howlymowly_> hi everyone.. short question: I want to connect a scanner to my system...  for example using simple-scan. Problem is: simple scan does not detect the scanner. I do *exactly* the same thing on another computer which has the same ubuntu 14.04 installed and I didn't change any settings It works on that computer.  The "sane-find-scanner" command   actually  finds the scanner. scanimage -L finds the scanner and then just halts...  any idea
[19:43] <howlymowly_>  whats going on here?  also using simple-scan with root does not work
[19:45] <TheNumb> howlymowly_: which scanner?
[19:45] <ntsp> Is there a way to change the default text editor to a custom executable?
[19:46] <howlymowly_> canonScan LiDE 20
[19:46] <howlymowly_> TheNumb: I suspect this might be due to the scanner not getting enough power over the USB board :/?
[19:46] <howlymowly_> but is there a wa I can check this?
[19:46] <howlymowly_> *way
[19:46] <TheNumb> howlymowly_: could be
[19:47] <howlymowly_> sane-find-scanner doesn't seem to have a proble with that ...
[19:47] <howlymowly_> when I do scanimage -L  it sometimes finds the scanner and then just hangs instead of returning to the commandline
[19:47] <TheNumb> howlymowly_: why don't you connect it to other usb port?
[19:48] <howlymowly_> TheNumb: I already connected it to all the usb ports this computer has ;)
[19:48] <howlymowly_> does not work :(
[19:48] <howlymowly_> on my other computer it works without any problems ...
[19:54] <edwardT> hi can anybody helpe me out with nvidia settings?
[19:57] <octavian_> can somebody tell me the commands to install this package? https://packages.debian.org/sid/usb-modeswitch pretty please you guys
[19:58] <kostkon> !info usb-modeswitch
[19:58] <kostkon> octavian_, sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch ?
[20:00] <octavian_> kostkon: thx
[20:04] <octavian_> and this one https://packages.debian.org/sid/libjim0.75 . How can I install it?
[20:04] <kostkon> octavian_, if it's in the repos then sudo apt-get install libjim0.75
[20:04] <kostkon> !info libjim0.75
[20:05] <kostkon> octavian_, it is
[20:05] <edwardT> hi can anybody helpe me out with nvidia settings?
[20:06] <kostkon> !details | edwardT
[20:06] <octavian_> it said unable to locate package libjim0.75
[20:06] <popey> octavian_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:06] <edwardT> kostkon  on windows we can select which GPU to use for each application, how can we do it on ubuntu?
[20:06] <octavian_> I am using lubuntu 14.04.2 32 bits
[20:07] <popey> octavian_: that package is not available in the 14.04 repo
[20:07] <kostkon> edwardT, no idea, someone else might be able to help you, hopefully
[20:07] <edwardT> ok
[20:07] <edwardT> kostkon can you suggest some channel name for it>
[20:08] <popey> octavian_: you _may_ have some success directly downloading the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and installing it manually
[20:08] <kostkon> edwardT, this one here
[20:08] <neil_> I have a script that I am trying to execute via ssh from a remote computer, when I execute the script from locally, it executes and exits immediately, when I use ssh to execute the command ssh never returns... anyone know why?
[20:08] <popey> edwardT: never seen a setting to do that in ubuntu
[20:08] <edwardT> ok
[20:09] <edwardT> how to loggout from here?
[20:09] <octavian_> popey: can't find it on that site. any terminal commands to get it?
[20:09] <kostkon> "info" defaults to utopic, right, my bad
[20:10] <popey> octavian_: you on i386 (32-bit) or amd64 (64-bit) install?
[20:10] <octavian_> i386
[20:11] <popey> octavian_: wget http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/j/jimtcl/libjim0.75_0.75-1_i386.deb
[20:11] <popey> octavian_: sudo dpkg -i libjim0.75_0.75-1_i386.deb
[20:11] <octavian_> popey: danke
[20:18] <octavian_> popey: the last command didn't work
[20:18] <octavian_> popey: cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[20:18] <ZIPY^> does someone know how acestream-engine works
[20:19] <ObrienDave> octavian_, you're not in the same directory where you D/Led it
[20:20] <octavian_> ObrienDave: I downloaded .deb file and executed it. Is it the same thing?
[20:23] <Guest47283> Hello :)!
[20:23] <n7851> hey
[20:24] <n7851> #nick laesher
[20:25] <Ben64> octavian_: you should not be downloading deb files
[20:29] <crlcan81> I found a program that says it's for ubuntu lucid, how bad is it to use a program not made for your version of linux?
[20:30] <Ben64> crlcan81: very
[20:30] <crlcan81> I thought as much.. :(
[20:30] <Ben64> what is it
[20:30] <crlcan81> I'm trying to find text based clients for Ubuntu, but the only ones I found are either bins, or only for windows.
[20:30] <crlcan81> text based clients for SL on Ubunutu that is
[20:30] <Ben64> client for....
[20:30] <crlcan81> Secondlife
[20:31] <crlcan81> The graphical components overheat me, but it's the only way I have to chat with certan folks.
[20:31] <ObrienDave> octavian_, you can install .deb with software-center or i like to use gdebi for those
[20:31] <crlcan81> including a guy I know RL.
[20:31] <Ben64> crlcan81: maybe fix your overheating problem
[20:31] <crlcan81> I know I need to, but the problem is to do that I require money
[20:32] <crlcan81> To replace the heatsink/fan on the CPU, and add more fans to it.
[20:32] <ObrienDave> crlcan81, for SecondLife try firestorm or catznip
[20:32] <crlcan81> namely replacing the 80mm rear fan with a 120mm
[20:32] <crlcan81> That's just it obrien, there's not a current version of SL firestorm client for 64 bit
[20:32] <crlcan81> at least not last time I checked
[20:32] <crlcan81> I've used firestorm the longest, and loved it.
[20:33] <ObrienDave> it's been a few years since i've done SL
[20:33] <crlcan81> yep it's still not available.
[20:33] <crlcan81> I've done it on and off for nine years.
[20:33] <ObrienDave> way too much drama in SL
[20:33] <daftykins> i take it asking this real life person to just... hang out in meatspace isn't an option?
[20:33] <crlcan81> I already hung out with em RL.
[20:34] <crlcan81> he has a kid and a wife though, so this is a way to keep in contact with him when he's not around.
[20:34] <crlcan81> I don't really know many meatspace folks.
[20:34] <crlcan81> He's one of the few.
[20:34] <crlcan81> How hard is it to remove a .bin file from your system?
[20:35] <internetman> does anyone know if there is an active ubuntu phone community forming somewhere? the official forums doesnt seem to have a category for it yet
[20:35] <Ben64> crlcan81: a bin file is not a standard thing at all, no telling what it could have done when run
[20:35] <Ben64> !touch | internetman
[20:35] <netameta> how can i connect to a MSSQL server from a php script on a ubuntu box ?
[20:35] <crlcan81> WHy I haven't installed any yet, because I've no clue how to remove them.
[20:35] <internetman> Ben64: cheers
[20:36] <crlcan81> Sadly two of the clients I found that were text based were bin files :(
[20:36] <crlcan81> The other one is that one running lucid.
[20:36] <internetman> Ben64: this phone/touch naming had me confused
[20:37] <Ben64> crlcan81: bin file is probably just an executable, could literally be anything
[20:37] <zerowaitstate> netameta ODBC most likely
[20:37] <nfnty> Why don't I get any picture after installation on Nvidia HDMI? DVI works fine. HDMI with NVIDIA binary works fine but then I get no sound over HDMI. Using NVIDIA 9300 GE (G98).
[20:37] <netameta> zerowaitstate, anywhere i can read about it ?
[20:37] <nfnty> Both picture and sound works great on liveusb.
[20:38] <zerowaitstate> netameta php.net
[20:38] <zerowaitstate> #php
[20:38] <zerowaitstate> depending on what you use, you may need to recompile PHP to get native driver support
[20:39] <ObrienDave> crlcan81, http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory
[20:39] <zerowaitstate> if you cannot recompile PHP, then PDO ODBC should work
[20:39] <crlcan81> I got no sound on a hdmi on ubuntu as well, why I use VGA.
[20:39] <crlcan81> Screw it thouhg, I'll just try and use one of the exes on Wine.
[20:39] <netameta> zerowaitstate, http://php.net/manual/en/intro.uodbc.php doesnt list mssql as a supported db
[20:40] <zerowaitstate> netameta read the note just below that
[20:40] <netameta> reading
[20:41] <mike_papa> Is there any reasonable alternative for sane to share scanner to windows? Something that would be easier to use on Windows side? Native support on Windows client would be perfect. Like with Samba shares.
[20:42] <zerowaitstate> netameta you will need to configure iODBC with the MSSQL DSN and get the binary driver for MSSQL though
[20:43] <interprog> Hi
[20:43] <netameta> zero how about freeTDS ?
[20:44] <crlcan81> Well it works.. but it's kinda laggy.
[20:45] <zerowaitstate> netameta never used it, but it would be better than ODBC if you use MSSQL specific features
[20:45] <netameta> freeTDS will be better then ODBC ?
[20:45] <dorwlyo> I can't install Package: usb-modeswitch using sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch. I got: The following packages have unmet dependencies: usb-modeswitch : Depends: usb-modeswitch-data (>= 20140327) but it is not going to be installed
[20:45] <dorwlyo> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[20:45] <interprog> How do I package my program into deb package?
[20:46] <zerowaitstate> if you use stuff that is in MSSQL that isn't in the generic ODBC dialect, yes
[20:46] <ObrienDave> !info usb-modeswitch
[20:46] <netameta> zerowaitstate, http://php.net/manual/en/mssql.requirements.php
[20:47] <netameta> its seems they do recommand freetds
[20:47] <netameta> however its a darn mile long user guide
[20:47] <netameta> i guess will have to start
[20:47] <interprog> Can anyone help me of how to packaging deb format?
[20:48] <gabrielsch> my ubuntu 14.10 doesn't boot after install Nvidia drivers T__T
[20:48] <gabrielsch> can someone help me? stucks in gnome splash screen
[20:49] <dorwlyo> any help please?
[20:49] <zerowaitstate> netameta database vendors make it artificially hard to interface to their products.
[20:50] <zerowaitstate> especially if they also happen to sell operating systems, which all of the major ones do
[20:50] <ObrienDave> dorwlyo, activate all of the ubuntu repos and try again
[20:50] <netameta> I think its just windows
[20:51] <Dumle29> After a fresh install, what drivers should I get?
[20:51] <wafflejock> interprog, never done it but seems there's a good guide here https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf
[20:51] <Dumle29> I'm having a lot of chrashes, that seem to be GPU related, so I'm switching to Nvidias own driver for now
[20:51] <daftykins> Dumle29: ones your system needs...
[20:51] <interprog> Thanks for the link walffejock
[20:51] <daftykins> Dumle29: what card?
[20:51] <interprog> Thanks for the link waffejock
[20:51] <dorwlyo> ObrienDave: how do I activate them?
[20:51] <Dumle29> daftykins: GTX660 from EVGA
[20:52] <daftykins> Dumle29: ok, no need for a special driver version on that one then. repo 331 should be fine
[20:52] <gabrielsch> my ubuntu doesn't boot after install proprietary nvidia driver
[20:52] <zerowaitstate> netameta no oracle and IBM pull the same junk
[20:52] <gabrielsch> I'm desperated T__T
[20:52] <ObrienDave> dorwlyo, use software & updated
[20:52] <netameta> yea but who uses IBM or Oracle OSs ?
[20:52] <Dumle29> daftykins: 331 is the newest one in the gui thing. I think the most recent from nvidia is 340?
[20:53] <ObrienDave> dorwlyo, use software & updates***
[20:53] <daftykins> Dumle29: close, but avoid manual downloads
[20:54] <Dumle29> daftykins: Because they aren't tested? :)
[20:54] <zerowaitstate> netameta a lot of people run IBM OSes on big IBM iron.  Oracle has their Linux distro they are trying to force on the world.
[20:54] <daftykins> Dumle29: no because it can brick your install at update time
[20:54] <Dumle29> daftykins: Oh. Alrighty then :P
[20:55] <netameta> ah well ..
[20:55] <BladeMcCool> how can I get past this part of the failing golang install? http://pastebin.com/XWwAHFP5 ... i dont think this is a golang specific thing, more of a "hurr building stuff from source is hard" thing.
[20:55] <zerowaitstate> interfacing to Oracle on Windows is similarly painful, as is DB2
[20:55] <BladeMcCool> btw apt-get install puts a very ancient version on wheezy, need to build from source apparently.
[20:56] <zerowaitstate> MySQL stuff just runs everwhere
[20:57] <bekks> zerowaitstate: What? Start sqlplus or the SQL Developer. Done.
[20:57] <spdupee> is there an easy way to get rid if the zentyal crap and return to a ubuntu server without redoing the entire server?
[20:57] <bekks> spdupee: Uninstall the zentyal packages.
[20:58] <spencer> Hello everybody
[20:59] <interprog> I wanna ask how to create my own ppa's? (using Launchpad)
[20:59] <interprog> and what software should I use to working with others (if there is need to)
[20:59] <Dumle29> Dammit. Yet another chrash! Got some artifacts on the webpage I was browsing and BOOM, frozen
[21:00] <spencer> I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction.. I am a total java beginner with some python background but nothing else. Where might the best beginners tutorials be found?
[21:01] <interprog> The oracle Java?
[21:01] <interprog> Are you sure you wanna jump into Java?
[21:01] <interprog> How long have you been used python?
[21:01] <spencer> I'm absolutely sure
[21:01] <spencer> I have been using python for about a year but I am interested in programming for android devices now
[21:02] <zerowaitstate> BladeMcCool its a multiarch thing I think.  google for the features.h error and you will find it
[21:02] <interprog> Programming for android is so complex, you gonna need a lot of debugging and packaging, the syntax is pretty robust for a hello world.
[21:03] <mike_papa> spencer: I was there. I have resigned. Python with it's simplicity really spoiled you. Believe me.
[21:03] <interprog> but we know, we use Java run the program on anywhere.
[21:03] <wafflejock> spencer, you may want to check with #programming or #java http://developer.android.com/training/index.html programming Java for Android is more a matter of learning the APIs
[21:04] <zerowaitstate> spencer: there is a big learning hump right at the start you'll have to get over.
[21:04] <spencer> Thank you, I know it will be tough but I am committed.
[21:04] <bekks> interprog: Thats the biggest lie in IT. HEllo World will run everywhere, other applications will not. :)
[21:04] <zerowaitstate> Also, a lot of learning resources for android are out of date.  Android changes REALLY fast
[21:05] <interprog> I'm not mean that we use Java only to run hello world.
[21:05] <zerowaitstate> so make sure what you're reading was published this year ornlast
[21:05] <spencer> ok
[21:05] <wafflejock> yeah would just go with the docs and the latest tools provided by Google
[21:06] <zerowaitstate> and make friends with other android people
[21:06] <interprog> I mean it's cross platform and the bytecode make life easier to make a program in a platform (more than a simple hello world program)
[21:06] <bekks> interprog: MArketing says it is cross platform ;)
[21:06] <wafflejock> I think the worst part of developing for Android is just dealing with the fragmentation and thousands of devices you can't possibly test on
[21:06] <interprog> Yup :D
[21:06] <bekks> interprog: Same applies for C#
[21:06] <zerowaitstate> Java is cross platform until you write a file
[21:07] <interprog> I don't use C#, unfortunately. :(
[21:07] <interprog> I heard C# is a little bit same with Java :O
[21:07] <interprog> Is it true?
[21:07] <bekks> interprog: No. C# works :)
[21:07] <wafflejock> interprog, pretty similar from what I've seen but only dabbled in C#
[21:07] <interprog> I see.
[21:07] <zerowaitstate> interprog no C# doesn't make a pretense of being cross platform
[21:08] <interprog> C# only for Windows?
[21:08] <zerowaitstate> no you can run on mono CLR
[21:08] <Dumle29> I've been having some issues with chrashing. I installed ubuntu today, and I'm setting it up. Giving it a few weeks, hoping it can replace windows for me. Now, I'm fairly certain that the chrashes are GPU related, as I've had some artifacts happen before the latest chrash, and during another chrahs, I hit ctrl+alt+f1, and there was an error describing something along the lines of error communicating with the gpu
[21:08] <interprog> I need to learn a lot.
[21:08] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Did you ever tried to run a C# 3.5+ Assembly with Mono? :)
[21:08] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Save yourself, dont do it :)
[21:08] <Dumle29> during all chrashes but the latest, I've been using the x-org driver.
[21:08] <zerowaitstate> I don't use C# myself
[21:09] <zerowaitstate> java erlang and c here
[21:09] <interprog> I hope I can learn Java too
[21:09] <interprog> The hello world is too robust for me :O
[21:09] <zerowaitstate> lol too robust
[21:10] <daftykins> Dumle29: even with nvidia 331 running?
[21:10] <interprog> Ya, C is pretty fun somehow :D
[21:10] <zerowaitstate> C is lingua franca.  no shame in C
[21:10] <interprog> but the pointer still confusing me :(
[21:10] <Dumle29> daftykins: I had just switched to that before the latest chrash, though not rebooted, so I'm crossing my fingers now
[21:10] <interprog> especially in C++. aww.
[21:11] <simme> Do I need sth like reFit for ubuntu on a MacBook, or does it work out of the box?
[21:11] <zerowaitstate> interprog avoid C++ unless you really need it.
[21:11] <zerowaitstate> interprog
[21:11] <daftykins> Dumle29: ah. yeah
[21:11] <interprog> I need it, :(
[21:11] <interprog> That's the problem.
[21:11] <zerowaitstate> ah sorry man
[21:12] <Dumle29> daftykins: Also, chromium isn't rendering any pages :/
[21:12] <zerowaitstate> enjoy stack mangling
[21:12] <wafflejock> !mac | simme
[21:12] <interprog> I never made a program(a program that people can use, other than hello world), cause I'm still beginner as well.
[21:12] <daftykins> Dumle29: well, basically if you collect all your issues together right now, they're *now* and not whilst running the nvidia driver - so i'd consider them not worthy of mention :)
[21:13] <Dumle29> daftykins: It didn't before the nvidia driver either.
[21:13] <zerowaitstate> interprog then avoid C++ until you grasp C fully
[21:13] <zerowaitstate> especially if you don't understand pointers
[21:13] <LockeAnarchist> I'm liking D now
[21:13] <Dumle29> daftykins: Never mind. It works now. Funny thing. it was actually what had artifacts before the last chrash
[21:13] <daftykins> Dumle29: wat, you have to reboot to be using the nvidia driver, so what i'm saying is - your issues could still have been related.
[21:14] <daftykins> Dumle29: not surprised, browsers do hw acceleration
[21:14] <Dumle29> daftykins: Ahh okay :)
[21:14] <interprog> I though C++ is both of C?
[21:14] <interprog> thought*
[21:14] <LockeAnarchist> D it's like an easy C++
[21:15] <interprog> D language?
[21:15] <Dumle29> daftykins: Yea I was a bit surprised that I didn't need to reboot for the driver to take effect, but I guess I missed that :P
[21:15] <LockeAnarchist> yea
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> no standard library of C++ is different
[21:15] <LockeAnarchist> dlang.org
[21:15] <interprog> Is D cross-platform? :(
[21:15] <LockeAnarchist> Yea
[21:15] <LockeAnarchist> of course
[21:15] <interprog> I never used it :(
[21:15] <mike_papa> LockAnarchist: D is not really in wide used, isn't it?
[21:16] <zerowaitstate> Common Lisp is cross platform
[21:16] <interprog> but I gonna try it....maybe after I grasp the pointer and OO's
[21:16] <daftykins> Dumle29: install, reboot, happy times
[21:16] <zerowaitstate> OO as done in C++ is confusing as heck
[21:16] <LockeAnarchist> interprog, mike_papa : https://yow.eventer.com/yow-2014-1222/cool-things-about-d-why-and-how-we-use-it-at-facebook-by-andrei-alexandrescu-1741
[21:16] <interprog> Yes, indeed.
[21:17] <interprog> C++ is a mix of procedural..sometimes it's so hard.
[21:17] <zerowaitstate> only language I've found that was harder than C++ is Haskell
[21:18] <interprog> I'm making a few of plugins (in GUI shape) for my project...so C++ is indeed needed.
[21:18] <daftykins> peeps, this is an OS support channel so perhaps all the dev talk should be moved to relevant channels or #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <mike_papa> LockeAnarchist: cool. Didn't know they used D in facebook. I've read long time ago about D, but never tried it. And yes. daftykins has a point.
[21:20] <drewster> hey ummm, this white screen issue where the screen turns white when you use any app that has a higher refresh rate...is there a fix for it somewhere?
[21:20] <zdmz> hi
[21:20] <Dumle29> I got a package throught the ubuntu package installer, and it's not working properly. Could I ask about that in here, with limited chance of people being able to help? :P
[21:20] <bekks> Dumle29: ?
[21:20] <daftykins> "the package installer" ?
[21:21] <Dumle29> well, that ubuntu package browser program thing :P
[21:21] <daftykins> that narrows it down
[21:21] <bekks> Dumle29: Which is called "Software Center"?
[21:21] <interprog> You mean software center or synaptic Dume29?
[21:21] <Dumle29> yeah sofware center :)
[21:22] <interprog> Why it's not working properly?
[21:22] <interprog> Can you give some symptoms?
[21:22] <Dumle29> I installed quassel IRC client for linux, and it works (I'm using it) but I can't click any of the 4 menus at the top of it (File, View, Settings, help) I can access the settings menu via F7, but can't click anything in it
[21:22] <Dumle29> Clicking the settings menu up top seems to register clicks, as it will toggle the menu items highlighting on every click
[21:23] <interprog> why it's related to software center? It's a specific software problem?
[21:23] <mike_papa> I have a feeling I had similar problem, and it was compiz related. I don't remeber that well. It was long time ago.
[21:23] <Dumle29> interprog: It's not. That was just me justifying to myself that I asked in here :/ #quassel is rather dead :(
[21:24] <bekks> Dumle29: Did you try to restart that program?
[21:24] <interprog> Oh, ok.
[21:24] <mike_papa> I remember having strange problems with menus.
[21:25] <drewster> anyone ? white screen issue ?
[21:26] <Dumle29> bekks: Several times. It's what I've been using to chat here through the day
[21:26] <bekks> Dumle29: "white screen issue?"
[21:26] <destinia> hhhhhi
[21:26] <interprog> No, sorry drewster.
[21:26] <Dumle29> bekks: Wrong guy :)
[21:26] <bekks> Dumle29: Indeed :)
[21:27] <BladeMcCool> multiarch
[21:28] <bekks> drewster: which issue?
[21:29] <drewster> bekks: the white screen issue where anything with a higher refreshrate causes a white screen: basically whats depicted here (http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/14728822920) just there are a bunch of fixes that dont really work.
[21:30] <skinux> My system is acting like it doesn't have SWAP. Unfortunately, I forgot the commands and config file fro resetting SWAP.
[21:30] <bekks> drewster: Do you have a link for a launchpad bug or at least for a ubuntu forums entry?
[21:30] <bekks> skinux: you dont need to reset swap at all. Pastebin "free -m" please.
[21:32] <skinux> http://pastebin.com/KLgTC529
[21:32] <bekks> skinux: you have swap, and half of it is in use.
[21:32] <drewster> bekks: interestingly there doesnt seem to be a bug about it...nothing is detected... I have a second screen and use system settings to turn my internal monitor off and on to fix the issue. It returns as soon as I watch something on youtube or do anything other than text based applications
[21:33] <nightfuri> is there any documentation available for the nvidia x server settings?
[21:34] <skinux> Well, I'm only running two HTTP servers (idle), PhpStorm IDE, HexChat, Firefox (NetFlix) and Google Chrome with maybe 5 idle tabs. My system has 3G of RAM and 2G of SWAP. It shouldn't be low on memory.
[21:35] <Dumle29> will cd not follow through a symlink?
[21:36] <Basketball> hey
[21:36] <daftykins> skinux: which web server? apache?
[21:36] <skinux> Apache 2 and Artisan (tool of Laravel PHP Web Framework).
[21:36] <bekks> skinux: It is low on memory, as free -m shows.
[21:36] <daftykins> skinux: consider tweaking the # of workers to cut the memory footprint
[21:36] <og01> hi i want to add a kernel option permentantly, the instructions i see online say to add to /etc/default/grub, but for me that file doesnt exist (14.04)
[21:37] <daftykins> skinux: also upgrade, every man woman and dog has more than 3GB these days :>
[21:37] <skinux> Well, I'd run Hexchat, Apache 2, Firefox, Chrome, and Eclipse without a problem for months.
[21:37] <wafflejock> skinux, it's easy to tear through 100MB of RAM per tab in a browser, check out the system monitor to see what's eating it up for sure though
[21:37] <bekks> skinux: Which doesnt meant swap usage is a thing that started minutes ago.
[21:37] <daftykins> !pm | Basketball You should know better.
[21:37] <bekks> skinux: you just did not notice it until now.
[21:38] <Basketball> how do i check hash of a .deb
[21:38] <mike_papa> og01: https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer  - good thing to mess with grub
[21:38] <Basketball> in ubuntu 14.04
[21:39] <daftykins> Basketball: this that question you told me wasn't ubuntu? :)
[21:39] <Basketball> daftykins, i needed a different question
[21:40] <skinux> Chrome is using 1,010,000K total memory
[21:40] <daftykins> yeah don't use chrome if you want a small footprint ;)
[21:41] <skinux> As i said, I've never had a problem with Chrome. Firefox is the one that eats memory for me.
[21:41] <gabrielsch_> hi., I've installed libc6-bin:i386 on my ubuntu x64
[21:41] <gabrielsch_> now I can't do anything
[21:41] <gabrielsch_> any dpkg, any apt-get/purge
[21:41] <daftykins> skinux: so what are the other top processes consuming RAM?
[21:42] <skinux> That's why I use Chrome instead, because Firefox gets way too laggy.
[21:42] <gabrielsch_> any tips?
[21:42] <EleanorEllis> I am trying to get youtube videos to play full screen in Firefox - at the moment they only play in a letterbox. I am following these instructions https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/flash-videos-wont-play-full-screen           The final step is to Unredirect full screen windows in Compiz. The instructions say to go to Compiz Config manager but where do I find that?
[21:42] <daftykins> mmm seems our experiences differ
[21:42] <skinux> I don't know how to find that out.
[21:42] <daftykins> skinux: leaky extension maybe?
[21:42] <daftykins> oh right, run top and sort by mem
[21:42] <Basketball> daftykins, how??
[21:42] <daftykins> Basketball: i'm not talking to you
[21:43] <gabrielsch_> I need to remove libc6-bin:i386, it's broken my packages, but I can't run any command with this dependencie
[21:43] <Basketball> daftykins, why?
[21:43] <gabrielsch_> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies:  cups : Depends: libc-bin (>= 2.13)
[21:43] <skinux> wineserver, pulseaudio, pluginload+, Xorg, chrome, firefox, java, skype, hexchat are being shown by top
[21:43] <daftykins> Basketball: *facepalm* i am dealing with other queries. please stop.
[21:43] <skinux> Skype isn't even running, so I don't know why it's listed.
[21:44] <Basketball> am i not =
[21:44] <Basketball> :(
[21:44] <Basketball> i hate ubuntu
[21:44] <daftykins> ^that was Basketball, who doesn't even run ubuntu but asks here for support :)
[21:44] <bekks> skinux: Use "ps aux" instead
[21:44] <jatt> skinux: in chrome Shift + Esc tells you which tab is eating memory
[21:45] <UbuN2> hello linux community :0
[21:46] <bekks> skinux: Pastebin "ps aux | sort -k 4" please.
[21:47] <drewster> Bekks
[21:47] <EleanorEllis> I am trying to get youtube videos to play full screen in Firefox - at the moment they only play in a letterbox. I am following these instructions https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/flash-videos-wont-play-full-screen           The final step is to Unredirect full screen windows in Compiz Config Manager > General Options but there is no setting for this. Any ideas?
[21:48] <drewster> Bekks if its any help...this issue happens with gnome or the unity
[21:48] <bekks> drewster: How do you kno, if the screen stays white?
[21:48] <bekks> *know
[21:48] <drewster> bekks: interestingly there doesnt seem to be a bug about it...nothing is detected... I have a second screen and use system settings to turn my internal monitor off and on to fix the issue. It returns as soon as I watch something on youtube or do anything other than text based applications
[21:49] <EleanorEllis> Ah. It seems this setting has been moved to the Composite section.
[21:51] <skinux> http://pastebin.com/KKydpFXa
[21:51] <EleanorEllis> drewster: What is the problem? I only came in on the end of that and it sounds like I may have a similar problem.
[21:51] <drewster> EleanorEllis: the whitescreen issue
[21:51] <OerHeks> drewster, so you get a white screen when playing in wine? ( reading http://us.battle.net/en/forum/topic/14728822920 )
[21:52] <bekks> skinux: Chrome is eating your memory.
[21:52] <gabrielsch_> how to install libc6-bin manually?
[21:53] <EleanorEllis> drewster: OK. Looks like you have a different problem to me. Sorry to butt in
[21:53] <gabrielsch_> seems like I dont have libc6-bin and cant use any dpkg command
[21:53] <bekks> gabrielsch_: What have you done before?
[21:53] <gabrielsch_> I've installed libc6-bin:1386 on my ubuntu x64
[21:53] <gabrielsch_> and fucked everything
[21:53] <drewster> OerHeks: I dont use wine...that link was one of the many stimulants of the issue...I cant use my one screen for anything other then text based applications, anything with a higher frame rate causes the screen to go white.
[21:53] <gabrielsch_> I don't know what to do T__T
[21:54] <gabrielsch_> can't install or remove any package
[21:54] <gabrielsch_> there's no ldconfig anymore
[21:54] <bekks> gabrielsch_: So what did you remove before?
[21:54] <gabrielsch_> I didn't removed, just installed libc6:i386
[21:55] <gabrielsch_> I think it removed libc6-bin automatically
[21:55] <daftykins> skinux: you've got some nasty addons there like pipelight
[21:55] <drewster> for those interested : https://www.google.de/search?q=ubuntu+14.04+screen+turns+white&oq=ubuntu+14.04+screen+turns+white&aqs=chrome..69i57.14310j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=ubuntu+white+screen&spell=1
[21:55] <skinux> That's how I watch NetFlix
[21:56] <bekks> skinux: Thats whats eating up your memory.
[21:56] <skinux> Hmm. Well, that is Firefox
[21:56] <ObrienDave> you don't need pipelight for netflix anymore
[21:56] <Dumle29> Netflix is HTML5 :)
[21:56] <gabrielsch_> bekks: any tip?
[21:56] <OerHeks> drewster, i don't google, what videocard and what driver is in use?
[21:56] <gabrielsch_> I don't want to reinstall my ubuntu :(
[21:56] <bekks> skinux: Chrome is eating up your memory. That can be clearly seen.
[21:56] <skinux> http://pastebin.com/KKydpFXa Check now
[21:56] <bekks> gabrielsch_: Thats what I've suggested.
[21:57] <Dumle29> bekks: That's just what chrome does
[21:57] <gabrielsch_> bekks: what? sorry
[21:57] <bekks> skinux: Is that a wubi installation?
[21:57] <skinux> Well, I don't mind disabling the current NetFlix stuff to try without, but I don't know how to disable it.
[21:57] <skinux> No, I partitioned and dual-booted.
[21:57] <bekks> skinux: Again: Chrome is eating up your memory.
[21:58] <skinux> Hmm. Well, I think if I used Firefox as my primary browser, it would start eating memory again.
[21:58] <gabrielsch_> bekks: maybe I could solve this by recovery mode?
[21:58] <bekks> skinux: Stop Chrome and see how things change.
[21:58] <skinux> Hmm.
[21:59] <Dumle29> Chrome is known to swallow ram. Hell, this exists http://img.memerial.net/memerial.net/7733/google-chrome-vs-ram.jpg
[22:00] <Dumle29> Cities: skylines is on linux :O
[22:00] <Dumle29> I'm gonna go ramble about that in #ubuntu-offtopic :D
[22:00] <daftykins> skinux: Netflix has been native to chrome without pipelight for quite a while now
[22:01] <skinux> Is it native to Firefox too??
[22:01] <drewster> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/SYQFELMZ
[22:01] <Dumle29> daftykins: Only chrome? I was under the impression that it used html5
[22:01] <daftykins> skinux: no Firefox lacks the DRM plugin support i think, but don't quote me on that.
[22:01] <daftykins> Dumle29: yes but DRM ^
[22:01] <Dumle29> skinux: Let me test it out. I have yet to install any plugins
[22:01] <ikonia> daftykins: I believe you are correct
[22:02] <daftykins> ikonia: ty
[22:03] <Dumle29> skinux: daftykins: Yep doesn't work in vanilla firefox install
[22:03] <chuongv> Am I dumb? ~# sudo add-apt-respository shows no command found on ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[22:03] <daftykins> chuongv: it requires installation nowadays i think
[22:04] <daftykins> chuongv: although you typo'd repository
[22:04] <skinux> Well then, I still need Pipelight for Firefox if Chrome is going to eat up memory.
[22:04] <ObrienDave> ummm, no, no install required
[22:04] <daftykins> skinux: i'm not following the logic there i have to admit, why do you not feel you can run both at once?
[22:05] <chuongv> daftykins: I spelled repository wrong??
[22:05] <daftykins> correct
[22:05] <daftykins> sudo add-apt-repository - tab complete can also be your friend
[22:05] <skinux> I can run both browsers. But, if Chrome ate memory for NetFlix, it wouldn't make much sense to switch to Firefox to get away from memory issue.
[22:05] <skinux> Either way, Chrome would be eating memory
[22:05] <Dumle29> skinux: how much memory is it eating?
[22:05] <daftykins> skinux: oy vey, just test without some of these extensions - please :P
[22:06] <ObrienDave> add more memory
[22:06] <daftykins> yeah please upgrade and join 2015 :)
[22:06] <skinux> I already a handful of extensions.
[22:06] <ObrienDave> gee, there goes the memory
[22:07] <skinux> *disabled a handful of extensions
[22:07] <daftykins> skinux: and did you tweak apache's worker # ?
[22:07] <bekks> skinux: you need to stop that thing, not disable some extensions.
[22:07] <skinux> Stop what thing?
[22:07] <bekks> skinux: that memory hog called "Chrome" :)
[22:08] <skinux> I closed Chrome already, but I'm not sure it's had any difference.
[22:08] <ObrienDave> *blinks*
[22:08] <bekks> skinux: So check if there is a difference... using free -m and ps -aux | sort -k 4
[22:09] <daftykins> i bet that's because mostly swap dropped
[22:09] <skinux> That command didn't work
[22:10] <ObrienDave> they are 2 commands     free -m                       ps -aux | sort -k 4
[22:11] <daftykins> skinux: is there a reason you keep failing to reply about whether you reduced apache's worker count or not? i think it'd be quite the big deal...
[22:11]  * ObrienDave SMH and saunters on down the road
[22:12] <Dumle29> Hah I love how linux handles ram :P. "Oh you still have ram available? I'll just use this as a cache then" :P
[22:12] <skinux> http://pastebin.com/TeFXNdhY
[22:12] <skinux> And no, I don't even know how to change Apache's worker
[22:12] <daftykins> Dumle29: please  stop using the channel for general chat, #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[22:13] <Dumle29> daftykins: sorry. will do
[22:15] <drewster> so I guess there is no real fix for ubuntu's white screen of death...bummer
[22:16] <drewster> I guess fedora will have to do untill this gets fixed.
[22:16] <UbuN2> depends drewster ...
[22:16] <UbuN2> you said it happens with youtube
[22:16] <UbuN2> could be flash itself
[22:17] <daftykins> drewster: haven't been following your issue, but white-screenyness - happens across FF and chrome ?
[22:17] <drewster> UbuN2: it also happens when I use VLC, or play an brower game like css space shooter, or when I brows imgur, or do a presentation in full screen
[22:17] <UbuN2> :)
[22:18] <Dumle29> drewster: What gpu are you using?
[22:18] <drewster> daftykins: I use both chrome and firefox
[22:18] <UbuN2> dont give up drewster
[22:19] <UbuN2> it can be fixed more likely
[22:19] <Hulio> hi guys, i have surface pro 1 ....with secure boot.  I don't want to disabled Secure boot.   is there a way i can install ubuntu?
[22:19] <mesteam> hello
[22:19] <OerHeks> drewster, and what videocard?
[22:19] <mesteam> i have a prob with sendmail installation
[22:19] <drewster> Dumle29: mhttp://pastebin.com/SYQFELMZ
[22:19] <jeppech> Hi - I think I've rendered my server unable to interpret .sh scripts, after installing and removing zsh again. When I try to login, the welcome message quickly flashes, and then I'm kicked out again. I think this happens when .bash_profile/bashrc is executed. Does anybody know how I should go about this?
[22:19] <Hulio> I really don't want to disable Secure Boot in the bios of my surface pro1.   can someone tell me how to install ubuntu without having to disabled secure boot?
[22:20] <mesteam> i have this message : email : unable to send the message : Process Ends With A non- zero exit status
[22:20] <OerHeks> drewster, that does not tell what gpu, lspci | grep VGA
[22:20] <Hulio> please dude
[22:20] <daftykins> Hulio: don't think you should have to, but running ubuntu on that is full of lul
[22:20] <Hulio> lul?
[22:20] <drewster> OerHeks: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[22:21] <thiagovscoelho> linux has package managers
[22:21] <Dumle29> drewster: try and go to the software & updates program, and check the tab aditional drivers.
[22:21] <Dumle29> drewster: Any drivers from intel there?
[22:22] <mesteam> please help me with "sendmail", i try to send my mails to gmail
[22:22] <ikonia> mesteam: why are you using sendmail
[22:22] <ikonia> that is not the default MTA for ubuntu
[22:22] <ikonia> did we not have this conversation a few days ago ?
[22:22] <drewster> Dumle29: No additional drivers
[22:23] <mesteam> ikonia, because i need to allow my visitors to send me a message
[22:23] <ikonia> mesteam: you don't need sendmail for that
[22:23] <ikonia> mesteam: ubuntu ships with postfix which will do that just fine
[22:24] <mesteam> postfix is heavier than sendmail
[22:24] <ikonia> not really
[22:24] <ikonia> are you sending 10,0000 mails an hour ?
[22:24] <daftykins> Dumle29: please stop guessing XD there never are
[22:24] <mesteam> the processus is too long
[22:24] <ikonia> it's really not
[22:24] <Dumle29> daftykins: sorry, I thought there could have been a driver there for him, as there was for me.
[22:24] <mesteam> i already have installed postfix and the processus is very long
[22:25] <ikonia> mesteam: you will notice no difference in delivery or send time between any MTA unless it's 10,0000 mails every few minutes
[22:25] <ikonia> mesteam: then you have not set it up correctly
[22:25] <skinux> Draftykins: I shut down Apache, so it's worker isn't important.
[22:25] <Dumle29> daftykins: I'll leave you to advice drewster on whether or not this could help him/her https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13815/Intel-Graphics-Drivers-for-Linux-
[22:25] <daftykins> Dumle29: 100% never ever run that
[22:26] <daftykins> this is not Windows, you do not download and install drivers when you have problems ;)
[22:26] <mesteam> can you see my config file ?
[22:26] <ikonia> mesteam: nope, you've not shared any config files
[22:28] <mesteam> If you can't help me, say it me, it's easier for me
[22:29] <Hulio> I really don't want to disable Secure Boot in the bios of my surface pro1.   can someone tell me how to install ubuntu without having to disabled secure boot?
[22:29] <ikonia> mesteam: I am helping you, you're approaching it wrong and possibly making a problem
[22:29] <ikonia> mesteam: if you stick with the default MTA you'll find other apps will be working out of the box with it straight away
[22:29] <drewster> Dumle29: I just happend on that same answer....Ill see if that works
[22:29] <Dumle29> drewster: daftykins said not to.
[22:30] <Dumle29> drewster: I have a feeling daftykins knows more about ubuntu than I do ;)
[22:32] <lucido> hi, is eyefinity working on ubuntu?
[22:32] <drewster> Dumle29: well umm that tool is updating packages which is more than apt has done for me since ubuntu 12... And ive had this issue for a while and always thought it was some hardware issue. Its not , its a driver issue
[22:34] <Hulio> is ubuntu 14.10 a secure boot enabled?
[22:35] <ikonia> Hulio: secure boot blocks linux from booting, there are various tools to get around this/work with it
[22:35] <ikonia> Hulio: however if you want a realisticly easy process disable secure boot
[22:35] <Hulio> i dont want disabled it man
[22:35] <Hulio> show me the way
[22:35] <daftykins> turn it off ONCE
[22:35] <ikonia> Hulio: why do you not want to disable it ?
[22:35] <daftykins> install, turn back on
[22:36] <ikonia> daftykins: that still blocks it without the shim
[22:36] <daftykins> i suspect a misunderstanding
[22:36] <Hulio> because surface pro give me the red screen when boot
[22:36] <Hulio> it's annoying shlt
[22:36] <ikonia> don't swear
[22:36] <ikonia> there is no need to
[22:36] <Hulio> ok
[22:36] <ikonia> you're not going to get it working on a surface pro
[22:36] <Hulio> when i disabled secure boot in the bios....surface pro give the red color screen at boot
[22:37] <Hulio> so you're tell me a no easy answer?
[22:37] <ikonia> the easy answer is to disable secure boot
[22:37] <Hulio> wow
[22:37] <ikonia> but I still think from memory there are hardware problems with the surfaces on linux
[22:38] <daftykins> yeah i can't imagine it's going to work well at all
[22:38] <daftykins> you don't buy Microsoft devices then expect to run Ubuntu
[22:38] <Hulio> so there is no way to make it boot thru secure boot?
[22:38] <Hulio> but why microsft backup itself can boot?
[22:38] <ikonia> why what ?
[22:39] <Hulio> ok, i back up the recovery partition...(created from the windows) then boot from it ...its fine
[22:39] <Hulio> i dont know why ubuntu can't?
[22:39] <ikonia> because thats an approved OS
[22:39] <ikonia> the point of secure boot is to boot approved OS's
[22:39] <ikonia> windows is an approved OS
[22:39] <Hulio> so ubuntu is not an approved os?
[22:39] <ikonia> correct
[22:40] <Hulio> why ubuntu don't approved it
[22:40] <OerHeks> ubuntu does not pay.
[22:40] <Hulio> i dont' get it..nor understand.
[22:40] <Hulio> pay to who?
[22:40] <ikonia> (to a certain extent)
[22:40] <ikonia> ubuntu doesn't control secure boot
[22:40] <ikonia> microsoft do
[22:40] <Hulio> ah i see
[22:40] <Hulio> so secure boot is own by MS?
[22:40] <ikonia> yes
[22:41] <Hulio> now i get it
[22:41] <daftykins> Hulio: followed google result #1? - still don't advise it btw - http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
[22:41] <ikonia> agree with daftykins - it is not a good hardware device for linux
[22:41] <Hulio> daftykins, i know how to install man...i'm just being curoius about disabled the secure boot
[22:42] <daftykins> Hulio: i don't think you have read that. Read it.
[22:43] <Hulio> oh wait, surface pro can boot from microSD as well?
[22:44] <Hulio> didn't knwo that
[22:44] <Hulio> i thought it only boot from USB
[22:45] <daftykins> knowledge is power \o/
[22:47] <Hulio> power is power
[22:48] <Hulio> daftykins, your link suggest me ...still required to disabled secure boot
[22:49] <ikonia> Hulio: "it is not a good platform to instrall linux on"
[22:49] <ikonia> Hulio: do you understand that ?
[22:49] <netameta> How can i check what packages are installed on my serevr ?
[22:49] <ikonia> dpkg -l
[22:51] <Hulio> ikonia, daftykins  ?? http://www.pcworld.com/article/2028388/two-ubuntu-linux-versions-can-now-work-with-secure-boot.html
[22:51] <Hulio> ??????
[22:51] <ikonia> what about it ?
[22:51] <Hulio> 2 ubuntu version can work with secure boot?
[22:52] <ikonia> Hulio: have you read the article or just the title ?
[22:52] <Hulio> just the title
[22:52] <ikonia> so perhaps reading the full article
[22:52] <ikonia> Hulio: and try listening to these words "it is not a good hardware platform to run linux on"
[22:53] <netameta> thansk ikonia
[22:54] <daftykins> Hulio: please go read about secure boot :)
[22:54] <daftykins> Hulio: what you want is not going to work, sell that device and get another if you want ubuntu on one
[22:54] <netameta> what does ./configure --with-pdo-odbc=unixODBC,/usr/local means ?
[22:55] <ikonia> netameta: what are you trying to do
[22:55] <netameta> i am trying to have mssql support for my php
[22:55] <netameta> so i can connect to a remote mssql server
[22:55] <ikonia> then you shouldn't need to compile it
[22:55] <ikonia> which it looks like you are trying to do
[22:55] <ikonia> php supplied with ubuntu has full mysql support out of the box
[22:55] <bekks> mysql != mssql
[22:56] <ikonia> oops
[22:56] <ikonia> good spot bekks
[22:56] <netameta> like bekks said mssql and mysql are a bit diffeent
[22:56] <ikonia> sorry missread
[22:56] <bekks> netameta: apt-get install php5-sybase
[22:56] <ikonia> yeah the sybase extensions should work fine with mssql
[22:56] <ikonia> thanks bekks, totally missread
[22:56] <bekks> netameta: that package adds support for Sybase and mssql.
[22:57] <Mr_Sheesh> Ubuntu install question; For an install onto an older laptop from a USB thumb drive, friend doesn't have broadband, is that install going to handle install via dialup or does it require broadband? I know, if it's via dialup it's going to take ... a while. He can probably travel & borrow broadband if that's mandatory.
[22:57] <ikonia> mssql is sybase
[22:57] <bekks> ikonia: :)
[22:57] <netameta> it will just add support ?
[22:57] <netameta> or overrides corrent php ?
[22:57] <zeroo> hi guys
[22:57] <ikonia> Mr_Sheesh: you'll struggle to get updates over a 56k modem
[22:57] <ikonia> netameta: just adds support
[22:58] <Mr_Sheesh> Yep, ikonia, I was imagining that :P Is it feasable at all tho, or just a horror show?
[22:58] <netameta> so basically when i do php_ini() i will see it there ?
[22:58] <ikonia> Mr_Sheesh: it certainly will technically work, I don't think it's going to be very usable on a day to day basis
[22:58] <ikonia> netameta: php -i should show it
[22:59] <Mr_Sheesh> Yeah, I've suggested he make a deal with a neighbor to borrow broadband, you can see how well he's done at negotiating that so far :P
[23:00] <Drewster> So intels driver tool didnt do the trick for me
[23:00] <laptopdebin> is ubuntu stil gpu / cpu heavy?
[23:00] <laptopdebin> ;s
[23:00] <ikonia> laptopdebin no
[23:01] <ikonia> never has been
[23:01] <netameta> Thanks ikonia
[23:01] <netameta> and bekkes
[23:01] <akiva-thinkpad> Has anyone here who switched to systemd noticed any battery improvements in their laptops?
[23:01] <Hulio> i am going to try fedora
[23:01] <laptopdebin> ikonia, you're too new to ubuntu clearly
[23:01] <ikonia> laptopdebin: nope
[23:01] <laptopdebin> can somone who's used it for more than 5 years tell me?
[23:01] <rww> Hulio: okay. have fun!
[23:01] <ikonia> I've used it for more than 3 years
[23:01] <Hulio> ikonia, i'll let you know in  a bit
[23:01] <laptopdebin> ikonia, you're too new.
[23:01] <ikonia> 5 yeras
[23:01] <ikonia> I'm really not
[23:02] <ikonia> Hulio: I don't care - I don't want to know
[23:02] <daftykins> Drewster: man, i said don't install that.
[23:02] <akiva-thinkpad> ikonia knows his stuff more than most.
[23:02] <netameta> the install from above just showed a little warrning thing telling me i changed a file and if i want to used default or use what i set it for, i chose D to show difference - how do i exit that now ?
[23:02] <Hulio> haha
[23:02] <laptopdebin> I remember ubuntu 6
[23:02] <laptopdebin> ikonia,
[23:02] <ikonia> laptopdebin: so ?
[23:02] <laptopdebin> I used to use ubuntu server 8
[23:02] <ikonia> I used ubuntu before 6 - what's the point ?@
[23:02] <laptopdebin> ikonia, ubuntu is heavy.
[23:02] <laptopdebin> I want to know if it still is
[23:02] <ikonia> no, it's not, but if you want to expand on that I can answer better
[23:02] <bekks> laptopdebin: It isnt.
[23:02] <rww> laptopdebin: Current Ubuntu is at least as "gpu / cpu heavy" as Ubuntu 6 desktop and Ubuntu 8 Server.
[23:03] <rww> Neither of those were particularly heavy, but if you think they were you're not going to like current Ubuntu,
[23:03] <rypervenche> laptopdebin: ikonia is not at all new to Ubuntu.
[23:03] <laptopdebin> if you deny ubuntu being heavy you've never experienced it on average hardware back in the day.
[23:03] <ikonia> laptopdebin: ok - stop now
[23:03] <rww> k
[23:03] <laptopdebin> I just want a simple question answered without any bias.
[23:03] <SchrodingersScat> is there a support question in any of this?
[23:04] <ikonia> laptopdebin: "no it's not graphics heavy"
[23:04] <rypervenche> laptopdebin: The answer is no, it is not heavy.
[23:04] <laptopdebin> ikonia, unity is good about that?
[23:04] <ikonia> "is good about that" ?
[23:04] <laptopdebin> not being resource heavy like gnome2 was
[23:04] <rypervenche> laptopdebin: While it may use up a bit more resources than a DE like lxde, it still does not use up hardly anything.
[23:04] <Drewster_> ikonia: it is if you come from blackbox
[23:04] <ikonia> Drewster_: nope
[23:04] <ikonia> laptopdebin: unity performs best with a 3d enabled card
[23:05] <netameta> after doing apt-get install php5-sybase, i got a message that i change a config file - and had several options i chose D to see the difference. how do i exit it without ruining anything ?
[23:05] <laptopdebin> ikonia, I have one
[23:05] <ikonia> laptopdebin: but there are 2d fall back modes if you don't have one
[23:05] <laptopdebin> ikonia, oh god.
[23:05] <laptopdebin> ikonia, do I still need to run the fixubuntu script to remove the amazon ads
[23:05] <laptopdebin> ?
[23:05] <ikonia> laptopdebin: no
[23:05] <laptopdebin> that's gone?
[23:05] <ikonia> and you never did need to run that
[23:05] <bekks> laptopdebin: You never needed to do that.
[23:05] <Drewster_> Dont feed the trolls
[23:05] <bekks> Drewster_: Indeed.
[23:06] <laptopdebin> Drewster_, I'm a troll because I don't want my searches in unity to go to amazon aswell?
[23:06] <kostkon> clearly a troll
[23:06] <ikonia> laptopdebin: "no you don't need to run any script"
[23:06] <rypervenche> Let's stay on topic.
[23:06] <ikonia> there is your answer
[23:06] <laptopdebin> Wanting my privacy respected by my os is a troll
[23:06] <laptopdebin> gg.
[23:06] <netameta> Bekk, this is probably something simple for you , after doing apt-get install php5-sybase, i got a message that i change a config file - and had several options i chose D to see the difference. how do i exit it without ruining anything ?
[23:06] <ikonia> netameta: "D" doesn't tell us what it did
[23:07] <netameta> D is to show the difference
[23:07] <bekks> netameta: And which config file do you talk about?
[23:07] <netameta> www.conf
[23:08] <netameta> bekk, i changed it before to have  unix socket and some other small things
[23:09] <laptopdebin> Can someone explain the LTS thing to me?
[23:09] <daftykins> netameta: make a manual backup then do whatever you want
[23:09] <ikonia> laptopdebin: gets 5 years support
[23:09] <daftykins> laptopdebin: distro is supported for 5 years, what else is there to know? :)
[23:09] <netameta> yea but how do i excit this screen / make the script continue daftyknis
[23:09] <ikonia> !lts | laptopdebin
[23:09] <laptopdebin> ikonia, I understand that part but will it be like windows hwere I have to reinstall or debian where I can just apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:09] <generalbadwolf> Having a seriously hard time getting AMD/Nvidia cards working together - anyone recommend a reference?
[23:10] <daftykins> generalbadwolf: both types in the same box? oh dear
[23:10] <ikonia> you can just keep upgrading as it will never move beyond the LTS release
[23:10] <daftykins> generalbadwolf: i wouldn't even try
[23:10] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, nvidia's control panel and drivers purposly do not like to work with amd's.
[23:10] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, Also nvidia replaces system libraries for it's drivers to work whereas amd ones compile an interface.
[23:10] <laptopdebin> TL;DR: Not worth your time on Linux
[23:10] <ikonia> nvidia does not replace system librries
[23:10] <netameta> do i just ctrl + c ? wont that exit in a bad way and the install script stop ?
[23:10] <generalbadwolf> daftykins: I used to run it, Primary Xserver gnome-shell, and Secondary, id run Openbox/Virtualbox/VMware/Wine etc...
[23:11] <daftykins> generalbadwolf: i also used to run a 486, but times move on
[23:11] <laptopdebin> ikonia, I'm under the understanding that a few system libraries are replaced by custom nvidia ones
[23:11] <ikonia> laptopdebin: you are mistaken
[23:11] <laptopdebin> ikonia, I'm looking into it right now
[23:12] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, I would abandon all hope with nvidia and linux
[23:12] <laptopdebin> btw
[23:12] <ikonia> generalbadwolf: nvidia and linux is fine if you have a supported card
[23:12] <ikonia> generalbadwolf: there are open source drivers and closed sourced ones, you may need to work out which ones suit you best
[23:13] <Drewster_> hmm maybe I was wrong and the intel graphics installer fixed my whitescreen issues...Ill be back if not. So long and thanks for all the fish.
[23:13] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, I'd suggest the proprietary when it comes to Nvidia cards.
[23:13] <netameta> Configuration file `/etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf'
[23:13] <netameta>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
[23:13] <netameta>  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
[23:13] <netameta>    What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
[23:13] <netameta>     Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
[23:13] <netameta>     N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
[23:13] <laptopdebin> This is based on my experience with nouveau and various cards
[23:13] <generalbadwolf> ikonia:  I have a 7700 AMD, and 660gtx, Can I do a KVM or Xen IOMMU PT - Run both cards in Usermode and map the Servers?
[23:13] <ikonia> generalbadwolf: no
[23:13] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, what?
[23:14]  * daftykins chuckles
[23:14] <ikonia> generalbadwolf: you're going to have problems trying to maange two cards like that
[23:14] <daftykins> netameta: yeah, http://paste.ubuntu.com :)
[23:14] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, what ikonia said but if I understand correclty you want to do a vga passthrough to ubuntu in a kvm and forward your x server to it.
[23:15] <scott_> Hi everybody.  Could someone advise me how to change window managers in Ubuntu 14.04? There used to be an icon next to the username on the login screen, but now there is nothing.
[23:15] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, I'd suggest using the 7700.
[23:15] <netameta> daftykins, - that was a mistake
[23:15] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, why do you even want to use two competing companies cards in your box at once?
[23:16] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin : Well the 660 was on sale, and it was "OK" fast enough, the 7700 I have because it can actually transcode video.
[23:16] <artmix> 1
[23:16] <artmix> 2
[23:16] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, the only assumption I can make off the top of my head is that your goal is to use the physx hack to enable physx in games but use the more powerful amd gpu
[23:16] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: Nvidia is garbage video encoding
[23:16] <scott_> and actually meant to say desktop environment, not window manager.  Sorry
[23:16] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, you had issues with CUDA too?
[23:16] <netameta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10600157/
[23:16] <bekks> generalbadwolf: did you use VDPAU?
[23:17] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: No I want to run a Virtualization server in dualboot Windows + Linux (KVM/Qemu, Vbox, Android tools)
[23:17] <artmix> 1
[23:17] <artmix> 2
[23:17] <laptopdebin> why run it in dualboot?
[23:17] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, Android tools work on linux.
[23:17] <laptopdebin> as does Eclipse but if you absolutely insist, why not use kvm with a vga passthrough to one of your cards?
[23:18] <artmix> 111
[23:18] <artmix> 2
[23:18] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: I wouldnt dualboot if I could get the cards working, but I need windows for... Frankly... middle mouse
[23:18] <laptopdebin> middle mouse?
[23:18] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: Middle mouse button doesnt scroll, and autoscroll feels wierd.
[23:18] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, wat?
[23:19] <generalbadwolf> Im picky - with internet browser
[23:19] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, is this on a laptop or a desktop?
[23:19] <ikonia> middle mouse button scrolls just fine on linux
[23:19] <ikonia> it would be an odd mouse to not work
[23:20] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: Desktop: Fx 8350@5g 32gr 2xPCIe GTS660, HD 7770
[23:20] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, what version of ubuntu?
[23:20] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: Attempted 14.04
[23:21] <Hulio> i'm back
[23:21] <Hulio> ikonia, hi again brother
[23:21] <ikonia> Hulio: what do you want ?
[23:21] <bekks> Hulio: Thats was a short Fedora experience. :)
[23:21] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, This might work. From terminal run sudo apt-getupdate then sudo apt-get install gpointing-device-settings
[23:21] <bekks> *that
[23:22] <Hulio> bekks, not install yet, still downloading...almost done
[23:22] <laptopdebin> Then from a terminal run gpointing-device-settings
[23:22] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: O_o... ok...
[23:22] <Hulio> it is 1.3 gb
[23:22] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: //Anything once//
[23:22] <laptopdebin> ?
[23:22] <laptopdebin> Anyways
[23:23] <laptopdebin> once you have gpointing-device-settings open click on scrolling and check that verticle scrolling is enabled.
[23:23] <laptopdebin> that should hopefully fix your problem
[23:23] <artmix> 111
[23:23] <laptopdebin> artmix, please stop spamming the chat.
[23:23] <artmix> 222
[23:23] <laptopdebin> this is the 5'th+ time you've said nothing but random numbers.
[23:23] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: Does it matter if I sudo or su?
[23:23] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, sudo
[23:23] <artmix> ok
[23:23] <laptopdebin> (super user do)
[23:24] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: I know, but does it matter if I su -> root: apt-get, or is sudo ...
[23:24] <laptopdebin> either works
[23:24] <laptopdebin> but I'd just use sudo.
[23:25] <laptopdebin> That way you can copypaste the commands.
[23:25] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: I remember reading somewhere, something about dbus... tl;dr probly broke something
[23:25] <artmix> laptopdebin: I remember reading somewhere, something about dbus... tl;dr probly broke something
[23:25] <bekks> generalbadwolf: you cannot su to root by default.
[23:25] <artmix> generalbadwolf: you cannot su to root by default.
[23:26] <bekks> !ops | artmix
[23:26] <artmix> !ops | artmix
[23:26] <laptopdebin> !ops artmix trolling, spamming, copying what other users are saying and pasting it back in the chat
[23:26] <artmix> artmix: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang
[23:26] <generalbadwolf> bekks: artmix I know, you have to sudo su, then passwd
[23:26] <bekks> thanks ikonia :)
[23:26] <laptopdebin> ty ikonia
[23:27] <laptopdebin> bazhang_, you're still on freenode?
[23:27] <laptopdebin> god damn.
[23:28] <Basketball> hi
[23:28] <Basketball> when i go to http://wps-community.org/download.html
[23:28] <Basketball> to download wps office and i click on the deb file
[23:28] <netameta> How do you restart php ?
[23:28] <bekks> netameta: Restart the webserver.
[23:28] <ikonia> netameta its either in the webserver or using prefork, depending on your config
[23:28] <Basketball> it brings me to Sorry, the website kdl.cc.ksosoft.com cannot be found
[23:28] <phunyguy> Basketball: take that up with the website owner.
[23:29] <bekks> Basketball: How is that an ubuntu support issue?
[23:29] <netameta> bekks/ikonia, so reseting nginx should do right ?
[23:29] <bekks> netameta: restart nginx
[23:29] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: didnt fix middle scroll - and yes i found the config
[23:29] <laptopdebin> ok
[23:29] <crepple> That's odd Basketball - I haven't installed wps on Ubuntu but it worked fine on Mint using the Ubuntu installer
[23:30] <Basketball> crepple, have any ideas?
[23:30] <crepple> Not really. I'm using Debian at the moment but I might try and see what happens for me
[23:30] <crepple> Hang on
[23:32] <generalbadwolf> laptopdebin: no big deal. Just wanted gpus to work. guess ill just dry dock a board
[23:32] <generalbadwolf> thx all
[23:32] <laptopdebin> generalbadwolf, use kvm
[23:32] <laptopdebin> with vga passthrough
[23:32] <laptopdebin> fuck
[23:32] <ikonia> tone down the language please
[23:32] <ikonia> there is no need for swearing and it is not acceptable in this channel
[23:32] <crepple> Basketball I don't have my ubuntu betbook with me right now or I would try it there, but my guess is the file has been moved in the meantime
[23:33] <Basketball> crepple, i cant download any of the files
[23:33] <bekks> Basketball: So take it to the maintainer of that website.
[23:34] <crepple> Yeah Basketball it seems like the links are broken now
[23:35] <Basketball> crepple, ok thanks for being nice
[23:35] <Basketball> and tryinh
[23:35] <crepple> It's shame I deleted the deb archive or I would have passed it to you
[23:36] <netameta> Yes!!!!!
[23:36] <netameta> bekks, and ikonia thanks both you folks
[23:37] <netameta> at last...
[23:38] <netameta> believe it or not i am in this for about 2 weeks now, have read about 75% of http://www.freetds.org/userguide/ and still did not get it, Should have asked here way way before
[23:38] <Hulio> ikonia, fedora 21 won't boot either lol
[23:38] <ikonia> Hulio: I said earlier, I don't care,
[23:38] <Hulio> ikonia, i guess i have to disable secure boot
[23:38] <Hulio> :)
[23:39] <ikonia> that has nothing to do with this channel
[23:39] <Deihmos> why is it power management in linux is poor compared to windows ?
[23:40] <ikonia> Deihmos: it's not, it depends on your hardware
[23:40] <ikonia> Deihmos: sometimes it can be better, other times worse
[23:40] <ikonia> sometimes it needs so configuration
[23:40] <Dumle29> I just had a lockup, and waiting it out popped up a "Sorry, Ubuntu 14.10 has experienced an internal error." Can i submit the error report here so that I might be able to find a fix?
[23:41] <Deihmos> does not look like my disk spin down at all
[23:42] <xSolidState> hello friends! I have an issue with an automatically mounted partition. Its NTFS and i need rwx permissions for my user. I have the following line in fstab: UUID=1442D3D242D3B6A8 /media/raid1  ntfs-3g defaults,user,nls=utf8,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0  the drive mounts, steam(what i need this for) thinks it has write access, but my file manager, as user, says it belongs to root and shows an empty folder. FM as root says it belongs to
[23:42] <xSolidState> the user. How can i have user show it belonging to him as well?
[23:43] <simme> !mac
[23:43] <ikonia> xSolidState: fuse is user space, so the user mounting it will own it
[23:44] <xSolidState> ikonia, isnt that weird tho, that root thinks it belongs to user, and user thinks it belongs to root?
[23:44] <ikonia> xSolidState: not really
[23:45] <xSolidState> ikonia, i thought i can "cast" it as user with the uid and gid options though. i obviously need to see whats in the drive as user. Would umask help? People OTI recommend similar mounts for steam
[23:48] <Fudster> Yes, Im running "sudo apt-get update" and Its stuck. http://i.imgur.com/gLBrH3J.png
[23:48] <Fudster> I already canceled it and retryed a few times
[23:49] <bekks> How long did you wait before cancelling it?
[23:49] <daftykins> Fudster: text is better on pastebin sites
[23:49] <Fudster> Okay. Its stuck on 100% [Waiting for headers]
[23:49] <daftykins> we can see that :>
[23:49] <bekks> Fudster: How long did you wait before cancelling it?
[23:49] <Fudster> bekks: I been having this issue since yesterday
[23:50] <bekks> Fudster: Thats not an answer to my question.
[23:50] <Fudster> I think one of the servers must not be replying or something?
[23:50] <Fudster> I cancel it then retry right away
[23:50] <bekks> Fudster: How long do you wait before cancelling? 1s? 10s? 1 minute?
[23:50] <Fudster> like 1s
[23:51] <Fudster> using ctrl +C
[23:51] <bekks> So run "sudp apt-get update" and dont touch your keyboard for 3 minutes.
[23:51] <bekks> *sudo
[23:51] <Fudster> OH lol. I thought you meant between each run...
[23:51] <Fudster> lol
[23:51] <xSolidState> lol
[23:51] <Fudster> Well I have left it for a while once. Will try again
[23:52] <bekks> "before cancelling".
[23:52] <bekks> Fudster: If that doesnt work out, use an official mirror, not the one from your ISP.
[23:52] <Fudster> bekks:  how do I change those?
[23:53] <bekks> Fudster: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104695/how-do-i-change-mirrors-in-ubuntu-server-from-regional-to-main
[23:53] <xSolidState> My ntfs problem vaporized when i chowned the mountpoint directory to my user. For anyone that cares
[23:53] <xSolidState> umask is 000 tho
[23:53] <bekks> xSolidState: NTFS doesnt support umasks.
[23:54] <xSolidState> bekks, well then it was the chown hehe
[23:54] <xSolidState> did both to be sure
[23:54] <bekks> xSolidState: NTFS doesnt support chown as well.
[23:54] <xSolidState> bekks, oh no i chowned /media/mountpoint and THEN mounted
[23:55] <xSolidState> before, my user thought the dir belonged to root, and root said it belonged to user
[23:55] <bekks> xSolidState: Thats irrelevant, since those ownerships will be overwritten.
[23:55] <bekks> xSolidState: Overwritten by the mount options.
[23:55] <xSolidState> bekks, well what happened then? it didnt work before, i chowned and now it works lol
[23:55] <xSolidState> quite od
[23:55] <xSolidState> d
[23:56] <daftykins> best approach is to not mix file systems in future
[23:56] <Fudster> bekks: But what do I exactly replace?...
[23:56] <Fudster> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/M5UDR46E
[23:56] <bekks> Fudster: the sources offered by your provider need to be replaced by official mirrors.
[23:57] <xSolidState> ok i will uninstall windows, backup my 3 tb drive and format it as ext4, daftykins :P
[23:57] <daftykins> xSolidState: sounds perfect
[23:57] <bekks> xSolidState: Windows has no uninstall option. :P
[23:57] <Fudster> bekks: ...And a list of those official mirrors can be found where?
[23:57] <xSolidState> praise stallman
[23:57] <daftykins> xSolidState: or here's a thought, but another drive \o/
[23:57] <daftykins> although granted that approach doesn't sound so dramatic on IRC
[23:57] <daftykins> ;)
[23:58] <xSolidState> daftykins, haha. This may sound weird but all my drivebays are full already
[23:58] <daftykins> don't need the life story :)
[23:58] <bekks> Fudster: replace http://ubuntu.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net/ubuntu with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu