[06:27] <dkessel> Uh, so many pings
[06:39] <dkessel> elfy: what do you think is wrong about the tracker numbers?
[10:00] <knome> dkessel, if you can't order the testsuites to the order you want (but it's specified by the ID, eg. order of input), you might end up having low-priority testsuites showing higher
[10:01] <knome> dkessel, even alphabetical sort would be better...
[10:01] <knome> but of course, if you implement something, please implement the weight like with testcases
[10:27] <dkessel> knome: ok so i checked - the testsuites look alphabetically sorted already on http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/327/builds/82959/testcases , and also on my development VM
[10:28] <dkessel> but i agree, ordering with a weight might be better
[10:28] <knome> i haven't checked if that's the case; but are you sure they aren't just created in alphabetical order?
[10:31] <dkessel> i just created some testsuites in non-alphabetical order ("w" before "a"), and "a" got sorted before "w"
[10:32] <knome> ok
[10:32] <knome> how hard do you think it would be to implement the weight sorting though?
[10:32] <knome> i mean it's at most one more DB column
[10:33] <knome> also the other question
[10:34] <knome> when you test beta1, but that image is then rebuilt, it's considered a "daily" test after that
[10:34] <knome> eg. the beta1 tracking status is lost
[10:34] <knome> i wonder if it would be possible to keep that, to get full results for milestones
[10:49] <dkessel> i think it wouldn't be hard to implement the sorting. (saying that without looking at the code, though)
[10:50] <brainvvash> slickymaster, thanks
[10:50] <knome> dkessel, yeah, i guessed so
[10:50] <dkessel> knome: ^ - and: i don't know how the builds get added to the tracker. i guess there may be some integration with some build system going on?
[10:51] <knome> dkessel, potentially, but i'm not sure if it's unrelated
[10:52] <knome> dkessel, the only thing that matters is that if a specific build was added for beta1, tests conducted agaisnt it should be always be counted towards beta1 tests
[10:52] <knome> dkessel, not daily tests if there happens to be a newer build; which is what currently happens
[10:52] <knome> dkessel, to put it otherwise: in the tester statistics, only the last milestone build counts towards the tests made for the milestone
[10:54] <knome> bluesabre, wasn't bug 1390933 fixed?
[10:55] <knome> Unit193, ping me when you're around
[10:56] <dkessel> knome: well - i would have to look at the database and at the way the statistics get calculated to say anything useful about that :)
[10:56] <knome> yep
[11:10] <knome> bbl
[15:49] <dkessel> Now this is great. First quasselclient worked, but now it just decides to Hang upon Start, without showing any window
[16:14] <dkessel> OK so that seems to be caused by the not working tray icon
[16:16] <dkessel> is xubuntu also affected by this quassel bug because we also use the indicator framework? http://bugs.quassel.info/issues/1269
[16:20] <dkessel> it seems so, because i don't get a tray icon...
[17:56]  * Unit193 checks if he's round, looks more square.
[17:56] <Unit193> knome: Jello.
[18:02] <knome> Unit193, what's your opinion on the current "seeds & composition" section on the strategy document? would you be willing to work on a work draft with me on it?
[18:04] <Unit193> We're going to have a difference in opinion there, I think, but yeah that needs to be updated or followed correctly. :P
[18:08] <knome> well i don't expect everybody else to agree either...
[18:13] <Unit193> New orage in Debian, biggest change: 01_support-filename-desktop added, update Exec line to support passing filenames, since we announce support for the calendar mimetype.
[18:17] <krytarik> slickymaster, Unit193: I've drawn up 'website' and 'startpage-website' targets for the main Makefile of the docs:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/cLVUZb3GFqLIZ2Z3MHdI/ -- And, lacking a better solution right now, my version of the docs is currently available here:  http://www.cellrabta.pk/xubuntu/docs/
[18:20] <Unit193> knome: So what's up?
[18:20] <Unit193> krytarik: Any reason for REVNO?
[18:21] <krytarik> Unit193: It's only included if you specify it.
[18:22] <Unit193> Yes...
[18:22] <knome> Unit193, well that was up...
[18:22] <knome> Unit193, do you want to start working or it or rather pass?
[18:23] <Unit193> knome: I can try to do my best.
[18:23] <knome> Unit193, i'll be in touch with you shortly then
[18:43] <Unit193> krytarik: I have no objections of course, means I can trim down my own script.
[18:44] <krytarik> Unit193: Well, I specifically got that from the version you're hosting yourself. ;P
[18:45] <Unit193> Right, but that's a "daily build" :P
[18:45] <Unit193> And, I meant over all.
[18:45] <krytarik> Yep, nothing wrong with that.
[18:47] <krytarik> Unit193: Ah, now I got what you mean there. :P
[18:53] <bluesabre> knome: yeah, not sure why it didn't close itself, http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xubuntu-default-settings/xubuntu-default-settings_15.04.4/changelog
[18:53] <bluesabre> gotta run again, back later :)
[18:59] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, When you're back, can we sync the gtk engines from debian/exp?
[19:00] <Unit193> Pretty sure he doesn't have access.
[19:02] <Noskcaj> oh
[19:22] <Unit193> We could just have Noskcaj sneak http://paste.openstack.org/show/Grg85pTS8C5fl0uPMVUU/ on next package upload! :P
[19:23] <Noskcaj> Unit193, Have you asked corsac about it?
[19:24] <Unit193> Of course not, it doesn't benefit him nor Debian so I don't see him liking it. :P
[19:52] <Unit193> Meh, source package likely wouldn't be accepted in Launchpad, because while the binary is newer the source wouldn't be, I believe.  Lovely.
[19:53] <Unit193> Some of the other delta could be --derivs-from Ubuntu, but again wouldn't likely be accepted upstream.
[19:55] <_matte88> hi everyone!
[19:55] <Unit193> _matte88: Hello again.
[19:56] <_matte88> hi Unit193! Do you remember of me?
[19:57] <Unit193> You may have been here before, but you asked a question about how to help the Kubuntu team in #kubuntu, and I pointed you to their development channel.  Though not sure you got the message.
[19:58] <_matte88> oh ok! Because I posted on this channel long time ago asking the same thing about xubuntu :)
[19:58] <_matte88> but no, I didn't get your msg
[20:01] <Unit193> As far as programming for Xubuntu, we create a few python programs, but for the most part we use Xfce so if you'd really like to help is in terms of programming, helping our upstream would go a long way.
[20:01] <_matte88> that's fine for me
[20:02] <Unit193> sidi: You alive?
[20:02] <sidi> Unit193, yeah
[20:02] <sidi> about to shower n go, 1h late for party
[20:02] <Unit193> Hah, oh well.  I'm pointing _matte88 to upstream Xfce, figured you could give him some heads-up.
[20:03] <ochosi> _matte88: any concrete idea what you would like to contribute to?
[20:03] <sidi> oh right :-)
[20:03] <ochosi> (if not, looking into bugreports and trying to fix some easy ones is usually the best starting point)
[20:03] <sidi> if new to coding / FOSS, there's https://wiki.xfce.org/contribute/easybugs for sharpening one's teeth. Else ochosi will know what's valuable / urgent right now
[20:04] <_matte88> actually no, but I guess that starting to fix some bugs would be a good way to understand how you guys work
[20:04] <_matte88> I agree
[20:04] <sidi> sure thing _matte88 
[20:04] <sidi> feel free to hang out in #xfce-dev too
[20:04] <sidi> wrt. easybugs, we have someone actively working on the screenshooter UI, so only the bugs listed on the top need attention
[20:06] <_matte88> you mean like "Missing trailing ";" in mimelist of desktop-file"?
[20:10] <_matte88> (I'll be back in a moment, just rebooting)
[20:12] <ochosi> sidi: you should probably just mention that on the page instead of mentioning it here to everyone ;)
[20:17] <Unit193> Miiiight help to make #xfce-dev not +s :P
[20:33] <_matte88> here i am
[23:05] <Unit193> knome: So, not today then?
[23:06] <knome> oh
[23:06] <knome> well i can do that in some minutes
[23:07] <knome> need to go through this dir first...
[23:18] <knome> Unit193, hallo? PM?
[23:19] <Unit193> I was doing stuff, of course.
[23:19] <knome> can't be!