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ahoneybunnp valorie it maybe me worry as well00:20
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ahoneybunso to use google talk I need extra packages01:37
valoriefor ktp, you mean?01:38
ahoneybunyea01:38
valorieif so, they should be in the list of suggested, right?01:38
ahoneybunyea but just a "OK" button01:39
ahoneybunI would think it would let you agree to install them from the prompt01:39
ahoneybunvalorie: what's funny is that apt-get says I have the newest version of those packages01:41
valorieyes, that would be good01:41
valoriefile a bug against ktp I guess01:41
valoriesounds like a packaging thing I suppose01:42
ahoneybunfor the prompt to install the packages?01:42
valoriebut yes, if more packages are necessary, there should be a prompt, which would be in bko01:42
valorieif you already have the newest version of the necessary packages I'm not sure what the problem might be01:43
valorieperhaps talk to the ktp people01:43
valorie#kde-telepathy  01:43
valoriethis is crap though: https://community.kde.org/KTp/Setting_up_KAccounts01:44
ahoneybunI left ktp and then tried again and now it works01:44
valorieI am not building crap so I can use ktp01:44
* ahoneybun just flashed his OPO with Lollipop01:45
valorieopo?01:45
ahoneybunOnePlus One01:45
valorieah01:45
ahoneybunvalorie: you would think that page would be under techbase01:45
valorieI've never messed with my phone01:45
valorietechbase is supposed to be more for "outside" devels01:46
ahoneybunI wanted to move from KitKat to Lollipop01:46
valorieQt devels, others using KDE tech but not part of the community01:46
valorieI suppose the above page is for testing01:46
ahoneybunyea01:47
ahoneybunvalorie: once the final beta comes out I'll update the installer screenshots01:52
valorieare we planning to release a second beta?01:54
valorieor just RC01:54
ahoneybunsomething like that i think01:54
ahoneybunnot sure01:54
valorieyou might ask on the list and get the discussion going01:54
valorieI've heard nothing either way01:54
* ahoneybun still needs to setup kmail01:56
valorieI'll do that one of these days 01:59
valorieno time now01:59
ahoneybunthe py on the wiki is having problems03:14
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lordievaderGood morning.10:31
BluesKajHowdy all11:42
ovidiu-florinlordievader: ping12:19
lordievaderovidiu-florin: pong12:20
ovidiu-florinlordievader: script: https://paste.kde.org/pglu73oxg output: https://paste.kde.org/pqpvfzu7e12:21
ovidiu-florinI'm doung something wrong12:21
lordievaderNext link is blank?12:22
ovidiu-florinlordievader: which link is blank?12:24
lordievaderovidiu-florin: See line 47 of the output.12:24
ovidiu-florinah, yes12:25
ovidiu-florinit shouldn't be blank12:25
lordievaderovidiu-florin: What does the linecache module do>12:25
lordievader>=?12:25
ovidiu-florinhttps://paste.kde.org/p1ilkkzkg this is the file at the end of the iteration12:25
ovidiu-florinlordievader: https://docs.python.org/3/library/linecache.html?highlight=linecache#linecache.getline12:25
lordievaderovidiu-florin: You know opening and closing a file descriptor is slow, also you'd want to use "with open(fileName) as f:" ;)12:27
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Shall I mess around with this later in the afternoon?12:30
lordievaderNow I need to reboot my server. Will be back in a bit (I hope XD).12:31
ovidiu-florinlordievader: ping12:59
lordievaderHey ovidiu-florin 12:59
ovidiu-florinwhat's the difference between the 2 variants of opening a file descriptor?13:00
lordievaderovidiu-florin: The one with 'with' is nicer and recommended as it will take care of the closing of the fd for you.13:02
lordievaderovidiu-florin: https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/transforming-code-into-beautiful-idiomatic-python-by-raymond-hettinger-113:03
owlmanHi, latest dist-upgrade on vivid somehow disabled systemd startup of the sddm service at boot. Known problem?14:07
yofelyep14:08
owlmanyofel: thanks14:09
yofelowlman: could you pastebin your apt history.log please?14:09
owlmanyofel: you just want the last couple of days? I don't know how much use it will be as I had some interesting fun and games with something in the display stack which aborted a dist-upgrade and left me with cleaning up to do...14:16
lordievaderovidiu-florin: You available? I'm going to mess around with your script. I might have questions...14:20
owlmanyofel: if I've done this right last 4 days at https://paste.kde.org/prqw7wexh14:22
owlmanyofel: let me know if you need more14:24
yofelowlman: thanks. we do know that it happens, but we don't know why yet :/14:35
soee_Riddell: ping15:09
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Ugh, writing a Web crawler is annoying..15:59
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Using scrapy might be easier: http://doc.scrapy.org/en/latest/topics/link-extractors.html16:03
yofelFWIW, I got the recursion depth fixed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10604506/16:03
yofelnow the script uses multiple lists though, so not sure how much that helps the stack16:04
soee_yofel: can you check one thing for me ?16:05
yofelhm?16:06
soee_http://paste.ubuntu.com/10604198/16:06
yofelsyncing backup right now, will have to wait a bit16:06
ahoneybunyofel: did you want me to put that paste in the bug report?16:19
* ahoneybun sees that there is no bug report lol16:20
yofelahoneybun: which bug?16:51
ahoneybunyofel: the sddm one that you talked about on the list16:58
yofelah yeah, there's a report for that17:02
ahoneybunoh?17:02
yofellp 143133217:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1431332 in sddm (Ubuntu) "sddm not starting after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143133217:02
ahoneybunit effected me so I marked it17:03
ahoneybunaffected17:03
ahoneybunyofel: anymore info that needs to be on that report?17:07
yofelsure, why does it happen? ;P17:13
ahoneybun;p don't know17:17
shadeslayerRiddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnm-qt/ should be deleted?18:58
shadeslayeror is that different than https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanager-qt18:58
ovidiu-florinlordievader: I took a look at scrapy... 20:04
ovidiu-florinI don't really get it20:04
ovidiu-florinlordievader: would you mind doing the first 2 undone items from the first checklist https://trello.com/c/LKijjLlb/10-configure-the-site ?20:06
kubotu[Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Configure the site ++ OB, AH, PA, SI, JAR, CS, P]20:06
ovidiu-florinjust give me the links that don't work on the new site20:06
lordievaderFrom what I gather it is a Web crawler framework.20:06
ovidiu-florinlordievader: I don't care about links from other domains20:06
ovidiu-florinbut if it's links from Kubuntu pages on other domains, wiki or other stuff, we shoul have a list of them and someone from the community should take a look at those20:07
ovidiu-florinQuintasan: ping20:08
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: ping20:08
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: pong20:19
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: can we use this for the linux logo: http://members.shaw.ca/golinux/0.0/logobig.jpg20:20
ovidiu-florinI'm still looking into the legal issues for this image20:20
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: I'll see if I can get it to scale well20:20
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: thank you20:20
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: have you contacted that guy about the KDE logo?20:20
ovidiu-florinor should I?20:20
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: I have not, let me see if I can find the link to the forum post (had to reinsall)20:22
ahoneybun*reinstall20:22
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: his profile says he has been offline since last year20:23
ovidiu-florincan you give me the link?20:23
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: this is the image that the KDE design team use http://i.imgur.com/ImRvXYE.png20:23
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=119971&sid=06271e0a96d882c7241741988ff55952&start=15#p30554720:23
ovidiu-florinI like it but I believe that it is important to have the whole name in there20:24
ahoneybunKDE?20:25
ovidiu-florinyes20:26
ovidiu-florinand maybe a smaller KF5 as a subnote20:26
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: http://i.imgur.com/F7cutm0.png20:26
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: something like this https://sites.google.com/site/matiascapeletto/kde.logo.small.png?20:27
ovidiu-florinIMO the second K is redundant20:27
ahoneybunbut similar20:29
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ it's perfect20:29
ovidiu-florinwe just need the KDE one now20:29
ahoneybunworking on that one now20:31
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: http://i.imgur.com/24KAIqX.png20:31
ovidiu-florinwhat about http://i.imgur.com/ImRvXYE.png ? Wasn't this accepted as a new official logo for KF5?? if yes, shouldn't we use this one?20:32
ahoneybunI think that is the KDE Design team logo20:33
ovidiu-florinhttps://vdesign.kde.org/20:34
ahoneybunhttps://vdesign.kde.org/https://vdesign.kde.org/20:34
ahoneybunyea20:34
ovidiu-florinthey have the white one in the header, but the colored one as a favicon20:35
ahoneybunyea20:35
ovidiu-florinIMO that the prettiest, and we should use it20:36
ovidiu-florinwhat do you think?20:36
ahoneybunit is pretty but we should/would have to ask to use no20:37
ahoneybun?20:37
ovidiu-florinok, who should we ask?20:37
ovidiu-florinhere? https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=28520:39
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: I messaged this guy: https://forum.kde.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=106633420:42
ovidiu-florinawesome20:42
ahoneybunasking for permission to use that icon20:42
ahoneybunand he uses Kubuntu!20:43
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: I'll leave this here for now: http://i.imgur.com/NqPAqas.png20:43
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: it's up, if someone has a better option, or it's not ok to use it, I'll take it down20:45
ovidiu-florinhttp://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/20:45
ahoneybuncool20:46
ovidiu-florindo you want to check the checkbox on trello, since you did that20:46
ovidiu-florin?20:46
ahoneybunI'll do it20:47
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: time to move to the feature tour then20:48
ahoneybun:)20:48
ovidiu-florincool20:49
ovidiu-florinI've asked my brother to do the download page20:49
ovidiu-florinI'll give him a ring20:49
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: would the "Feature Tour" text on top of http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ be better in white?20:49
ovidiu-florinno20:50
ovidiu-florinI have a task for that20:50
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: check out this card: https://trello.com/c/LKijjLlb/10-configure-the-site20:51
kubotu[Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Configure the site ++ OB, AH, PA, SI, JAR, CS, P]20:51
ovidiu-florin"Fix / make pretty the header on pages and articles (use Featured image in header)"20:51
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: inspiration: http://tr.kubuntu.org/bootstrap/20:52
ahoneybunsweet20:53
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: from here: https://trello.com/c/ZvXwL7ZU/6-gwenview-screenshot-on-feature-tour-needs-exchanging20:53
kubotu[Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: gwenview screenshot on feature-tour needs exchanging ++ AH]20:53
ahoneybunI have the screenshot ovidiu-florin20:54
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: I think it's a very bad Idea what we have now, the whole page consists of images that contain text20:54
ovidiu-florinthe text should be text (selectable text) and images whould be images20:54
ovidiu-florinwe can use HTML + CSS20:54
ovidiu-florinand Javascript20:54
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: what tool are you using to design this?20:54
ahoneybunthe screenshot?20:55
ovidiu-florinno20:55
ovidiu-florinKrita, gimp? inkscape?20:55
ahoneybungimp20:55
ahoneybunoh I get it20:56
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: like this?21:02
ahoneybunand let HTML and CSS fill in the rest21:02
ovidiu-florininvisible link21:02
ahoneybunhttp://i.imgur.com/d8JuE8n.png21:02
ovidiu-florinno21:02
ovidiu-florinscreenshots are screenshots21:03
ovidiu-florinI mean't don't use this: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/fancy-feature-tour-beautiful.png21:03
ovidiu-florinthe text on the left should be text21:03
ovidiu-florinnot part of the image21:03
ahoneybunoh that yea21:03
ahoneybunthat should go21:03
Quintasanovidiu-florin: pong21:07
ovidiu-florinQuintasan: is your flatmate still alive ? :P21:08
Quintasanovidiu-florin: yes21:08
ovidiu-florinany luck on getting that example site back online?21:08
Quintasanovidiu-florin: He said his DNS went apeshit, dunno why. He should be here shortly21:09
Quintasanavras: So, what's the status of the example site you had me post to the mailing list?21:11
avrasInvestigating right now21:12
ovidiu-florinlordievader: any luck?21:17
avrasJeez, the DNS system *is* screwed up.21:22
avrasGoogle's DNS lists k.abramowicz.org, my local provider's doesn't.21:23
avrascompare dig @8.8.8.8 k.abramowicz.org to dig k.abramowicz.org21:23
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Haven't continued with it. Concluded that it is a very annoying task.21:57
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: may I have access to the new site?22:42
ovidiu-florinsure22:42
ahoneybunpermission to make changes to the Feature Tour?22:46
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: ^22:47
ovidiu-florinGo nuts22:47
valorieI'm so happy about the new site -- I was living in dread of that student's site going live22:47
valoriey'all rock22:47
ahoneybunthanks ovidiu-florin22:48
ahoneybunthere is revision control right ?22:48
ovidiu-florinthere is for articles22:48
ovidiu-florinthat's a page22:49
ovidiu-florinlet me check22:49
ahoneybunI just want a backup of the current layout no?22:49
ovidiu-florinno need22:51
ovidiu-florinit's revisioned22:51
ovidiu-florinthank you valorie22:51
ahoneybunok thanks ovidiu-florin22:52
ahoneybunvalorie: ovidiu-florin ping23:25
ovidiu-florinlooking at it23:26
ahoneybunk23:26
ovidiu-florinI haven't read the content, but I'd add 2 things: a top navigation like the old page, that scrolls to a specific part or the page; and some styling to the text23:27
ovidiu-florinI can do that tomorrow23:27
ahoneybunok cool23:28
ovidiu-florinright now I'm strugling with this query: SELECT title FROM (SELECT post_title AS title, post_modified FROM wp_posts WHERE post_content LIKE '%img%' AND post_content NOT REGEXP '\<[[:blank:]]*img[[:blank:]]*[^\>]*src[[:blank:]]*\=[[:blank:]]*\"http\:\/\/kubwp\.kubuntu\.co\.uk' GROUP BY title) as posts;23:28
* ahoneybun reads greek23:28
ovidiu-florinit shouldn't find this post https://paste.kde.org/pbigqghft but it does23:28
ovidiu-florinI'm off to bed, If any of you have any ideas about that, let me know23:32
ahoneybunok night ovidiu-florin23:33
valorieping for what?23:49
valorieplease just ask a question etc instead of a contentless ping23:49

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