[00:20] <ahoneybun> np valorie it maybe me worry as well
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[01:37] <ahoneybun> so to use google talk I need extra packages
[01:38] <valorie> for ktp, you mean?
[01:38] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:38] <valorie> if so, they should be in the list of suggested, right?
[01:39] <ahoneybun> yea but just a "OK" button
[01:39] <ahoneybun> I would think it would let you agree to install them from the prompt
[01:41] <ahoneybun> valorie: what's funny is that apt-get says I have the newest version of those packages
[01:41] <valorie> yes, that would be good
[01:41] <valorie> file a bug against ktp I guess
[01:42] <valorie> sounds like a packaging thing I suppose
[01:42] <ahoneybun> for the prompt to install the packages?
[01:42] <valorie> but yes, if more packages are necessary, there should be a prompt, which would be in bko
[01:43] <valorie> if you already have the newest version of the necessary packages I'm not sure what the problem might be
[01:43] <valorie> perhaps talk to the ktp people
[01:43] <valorie> #kde-telepathy  
[01:44] <valorie> this is crap though: https://community.kde.org/KTp/Setting_up_KAccounts
[01:44] <ahoneybun> I left ktp and then tried again and now it works
[01:44] <valorie> I am not building crap so I can use ktp
[01:45]  * ahoneybun just flashed his OPO with Lollipop
[01:45] <valorie> opo?
[01:45] <ahoneybun> OnePlus One
[01:45] <valorie> ah
[01:45] <ahoneybun> valorie: you would think that page would be under techbase
[01:45] <valorie> I've never messed with my phone
[01:46] <valorie> techbase is supposed to be more for "outside" devels
[01:46] <ahoneybun> I wanted to move from KitKat to Lollipop
[01:46] <valorie> Qt devels, others using KDE tech but not part of the community
[01:46] <valorie> I suppose the above page is for testing
[01:47] <ahoneybun> yea
[01:52] <ahoneybun> valorie: once the final beta comes out I'll update the installer screenshots
[01:54] <valorie> are we planning to release a second beta?
[01:54] <valorie> or just RC
[01:54] <ahoneybun> something like that i think
[01:54] <ahoneybun> not sure
[01:54] <valorie> you might ask on the list and get the discussion going
[01:54] <valorie> I've heard nothing either way
[01:56]  * ahoneybun still needs to setup kmail
[01:59] <valorie> I'll do that one of these days 
[01:59] <valorie> no time now
[03:14] <ahoneybun> the py on the wiki is having problems
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[10:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:19] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: ping
[12:20] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: pong
[12:21] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: script: https://paste.kde.org/pglu73oxg output: https://paste.kde.org/pqpvfzu7e
[12:21] <ovidiu-florin> I'm doung something wrong
[12:22] <lordievader> Next link is blank?
[12:24] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: which link is blank?
[12:24] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: See line 47 of the output.
[12:25] <ovidiu-florin> ah, yes
[12:25] <ovidiu-florin> it shouldn't be blank
[12:25] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: What does the linecache module do>
[12:25] <lordievader> >=?
[12:25] <ovidiu-florin> https://paste.kde.org/p1ilkkzkg this is the file at the end of the iteration
[12:25] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: https://docs.python.org/3/library/linecache.html?highlight=linecache#linecache.getline
[12:27] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You know opening and closing a file descriptor is slow, also you'd want to use "with open(fileName) as f:" ;)
[12:30] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Shall I mess around with this later in the afternoon?
[12:31] <lordievader> Now I need to reboot my server. Will be back in a bit (I hope XD).
[12:59] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: ping
[12:59] <lordievader> Hey ovidiu-florin 
[13:00] <ovidiu-florin> what's the difference between the 2 variants of opening a file descriptor?
[13:02] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: The one with 'with' is nicer and recommended as it will take care of the closing of the fd for you.
[13:03] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: https://speakerdeck.com/pyconslides/transforming-code-into-beautiful-idiomatic-python-by-raymond-hettinger-1
[14:07] <owlman> Hi, latest dist-upgrade on vivid somehow disabled systemd startup of the sddm service at boot. Known problem?
[14:08] <yofel> yep
[14:09] <owlman> yofel: thanks
[14:09] <yofel> owlman: could you pastebin your apt history.log please?
[14:16] <owlman> yofel: you just want the last couple of days? I don't know how much use it will be as I had some interesting fun and games with something in the display stack which aborted a dist-upgrade and left me with cleaning up to do...
[14:20] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You available? I'm going to mess around with your script. I might have questions...
[14:22] <owlman> yofel: if I've done this right last 4 days at https://paste.kde.org/prqw7wexh
[14:24] <owlman> yofel: let me know if you need more
[14:35] <yofel> owlman: thanks. we do know that it happens, but we don't know why yet :/
[15:09] <soee_> Riddell: ping
[15:59] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Ugh, writing a Web crawler is annoying..
[16:03] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Using scrapy might be easier: http://doc.scrapy.org/en/latest/topics/link-extractors.html
[16:03] <yofel> FWIW, I got the recursion depth fixed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10604506/
[16:04] <yofel> now the script uses multiple lists though, so not sure how much that helps the stack
[16:05] <soee_> yofel: can you check one thing for me ?
[16:06] <yofel> hm?
[16:06] <soee_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10604198/
[16:06] <yofel> syncing backup right now, will have to wait a bit
[16:19] <ahoneybun> yofel: did you want me to put that paste in the bug report?
[16:20]  * ahoneybun sees that there is no bug report lol
[16:51] <yofel> ahoneybun: which bug?
[16:58] <ahoneybun> yofel: the sddm one that you talked about on the list
[17:02] <yofel> ah yeah, there's a report for that
[17:02] <ahoneybun> oh?
[17:02] <yofel> lp 1431332
[17:02] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1431332 in sddm (Ubuntu) "sddm not starting after upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1431332
[17:03] <ahoneybun> it effected me so I marked it
[17:03] <ahoneybun> affected
[17:07] <ahoneybun> yofel: anymore info that needs to be on that report?
[17:13] <yofel> sure, why does it happen? ;P
[17:17] <ahoneybun> ;p don't know
[18:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnm-qt/ should be deleted?
[18:58] <shadeslayer> or is that different than https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/networkmanager-qt
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I took a look at scrapy... 
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> I don't really get it
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: would you mind doing the first 2 undone items from the first checklist https://trello.com/c/LKijjLlb/10-configure-the-site ?
[20:06] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Configure the site ++ OB, AH, PA, SI, JAR, CS, P]
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> just give me the links that don't work on the new site
[20:06] <lordievader> From what I gather it is a Web crawler framework.
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I don't care about links from other domains
[20:07] <ovidiu-florin> but if it's links from Kubuntu pages on other domains, wiki or other stuff, we shoul have a list of them and someone from the community should take a look at those
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: ping
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[20:19] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: pong
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can we use this for the linux logo: http://members.shaw.ca/golinux/0.0/logobig.jpg
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> I'm still looking into the legal issues for this image
[20:20] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I'll see if I can get it to scale well
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: thank you
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: have you contacted that guy about the KDE logo?
[20:20] <ovidiu-florin> or should I?
[20:22] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I have not, let me see if I can find the link to the forum post (had to reinsall)
[20:22] <ahoneybun> *reinstall
[20:23] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: his profile says he has been offline since last year
[20:23] <ovidiu-florin> can you give me the link?
[20:23] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: this is the image that the KDE design team use http://i.imgur.com/ImRvXYE.png
[20:23] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=119971&sid=06271e0a96d882c7241741988ff55952&start=15#p305547
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> I like it but I believe that it is important to have the whole name in there
[20:25] <ahoneybun> KDE?
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> and maybe a smaller KF5 as a subnote
[20:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://i.imgur.com/F7cutm0.png
[20:27] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: something like this https://sites.google.com/site/matiascapeletto/kde.logo.small.png?
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> IMO the second K is redundant
[20:29] <ahoneybun> but similar
[20:29] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ it's perfect
[20:29] <ovidiu-florin> we just need the KDE one now
[20:31] <ahoneybun> working on that one now
[20:31] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://i.imgur.com/24KAIqX.png
[20:32] <ovidiu-florin> what about http://i.imgur.com/ImRvXYE.png ? Wasn't this accepted as a new official logo for KF5?? if yes, shouldn't we use this one?
[20:33] <ahoneybun> I think that is the KDE Design team logo
[20:34] <ovidiu-florin> https://vdesign.kde.org/
[20:34] <ahoneybun> https://vdesign.kde.org/https://vdesign.kde.org/
[20:34] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> they have the white one in the header, but the colored one as a favicon
[20:35] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> IMO that the prettiest, and we should use it
[20:36] <ovidiu-florin> what do you think?
[20:37] <ahoneybun> it is pretty but we should/would have to ask to use no
[20:37] <ahoneybun> ?
[20:37] <ovidiu-florin> ok, who should we ask?
[20:39] <ovidiu-florin> here? https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=285
[20:42] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I messaged this guy: https://forum.kde.org/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1066334
[20:42] <ovidiu-florin> awesome
[20:42] <ahoneybun> asking for permission to use that icon
[20:43] <ahoneybun> and he uses Kubuntu!
[20:43] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I'll leave this here for now: http://i.imgur.com/NqPAqas.png
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: it's up, if someone has a better option, or it's not ok to use it, I'll take it down
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/
[20:46] <ahoneybun> cool
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> do you want to check the checkbox on trello, since you did that
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[20:47] <ahoneybun> I'll do it
[20:48] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: time to move to the feature tour then
[20:48] <ahoneybun> :)
[20:49] <ovidiu-florin> cool
[20:49] <ovidiu-florin> I've asked my brother to do the download page
[20:49] <ovidiu-florin> I'll give him a ring
[20:49] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: would the "Feature Tour" text on top of http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/feature-tour/ be better in white?
[20:50] <ovidiu-florin> no
[20:50] <ovidiu-florin> I have a task for that
[20:51] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: check out this card: https://trello.com/c/LKijjLlb/10-configure-the-site
[20:51] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: Configure the site ++ OB, AH, PA, SI, JAR, CS, P]
[20:51] <ovidiu-florin> "Fix / make pretty the header on pages and articles (use Featured image in header)"
[20:52] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: inspiration: http://tr.kubuntu.org/bootstrap/
[20:53] <ahoneybun> sweet
[20:53] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: from here: https://trello.com/c/ZvXwL7ZU/6-gwenview-screenshot-on-feature-tour-needs-exchanging
[20:53] <kubotu> [Kubuntu Promotion :: Doing :: gwenview screenshot on feature-tour needs exchanging ++ AH]
[20:54] <ahoneybun> I have the screenshot ovidiu-florin
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I think it's a very bad Idea what we have now, the whole page consists of images that contain text
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> the text should be text (selectable text) and images whould be images
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> we can use HTML + CSS
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> and Javascript
[20:54] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: what tool are you using to design this?
[20:55] <ahoneybun> the screenshot?
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> no
[20:55] <ovidiu-florin> Krita, gimp? inkscape?
[20:55] <ahoneybun> gimp
[20:56] <ahoneybun> oh I get it
[21:02] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: like this?
[21:02] <ahoneybun> and let HTML and CSS fill in the rest
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> invisible link
[21:02] <ahoneybun> http://i.imgur.com/d8JuE8n.png
[21:02] <ovidiu-florin> no
[21:03] <ovidiu-florin> screenshots are screenshots
[21:03] <ovidiu-florin> I mean't don't use this: http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/fancy-feature-tour-beautiful.png
[21:03] <ovidiu-florin> the text on the left should be text
[21:03] <ovidiu-florin> not part of the image
[21:03] <ahoneybun> oh that yea
[21:03] <ahoneybun> that should go
[21:07] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: pong
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> Quintasan: is your flatmate still alive ? :P
[21:08] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: yes
[21:08] <ovidiu-florin> any luck on getting that example site back online?
[21:09] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: He said his DNS went apeshit, dunno why. He should be here shortly
[21:11] <Quintasan> avras: So, what's the status of the example site you had me post to the mailing list?
[21:12] <avras> Investigating right now
[21:17] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: any luck?
[21:22] <avras> Jeez, the DNS system *is* screwed up.
[21:23] <avras> Google's DNS lists k.abramowicz.org, my local provider's doesn't.
[21:23] <avras> compare dig @8.8.8.8 k.abramowicz.org to dig k.abramowicz.org
[21:57] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Haven't continued with it. Concluded that it is a very annoying task.
[22:42] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: may I have access to the new site?
[22:42] <ovidiu-florin> sure
[22:46] <ahoneybun> permission to make changes to the Feature Tour?
[22:47] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ^
[22:47] <ovidiu-florin> Go nuts
[22:47] <valorie> I'm so happy about the new site -- I was living in dread of that student's site going live
[22:47] <valorie> y'all rock
[22:48] <ahoneybun> thanks ovidiu-florin
[22:48] <ahoneybun> there is revision control right ?
[22:48] <ovidiu-florin> there is for articles
[22:49] <ovidiu-florin> that's a page
[22:49] <ovidiu-florin> let me check
[22:49] <ahoneybun> I just want a backup of the current layout no?
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> no need
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> it's revisioned
[22:51] <ovidiu-florin> thank you valorie
[22:52] <ahoneybun> ok thanks ovidiu-florin
[23:25] <ahoneybun> valorie: ovidiu-florin ping
[23:26] <ovidiu-florin> looking at it
[23:26] <ahoneybun> k
[23:27] <ovidiu-florin> I haven't read the content, but I'd add 2 things: a top navigation like the old page, that scrolls to a specific part or the page; and some styling to the text
[23:27] <ovidiu-florin> I can do that tomorrow
[23:28] <ahoneybun> ok cool
[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> right now I'm strugling with this query: SELECT title FROM (SELECT post_title AS title, post_modified FROM wp_posts WHERE post_content LIKE '%img%' AND post_content NOT REGEXP '\<[[:blank:]]*img[[:blank:]]*[^\>]*src[[:blank:]]*\=[[:blank:]]*\"http\:\/\/kubwp\.kubuntu\.co\.uk' GROUP BY title) as posts;
[23:28]  * ahoneybun reads greek
[23:28] <ovidiu-florin> it shouldn't find this post https://paste.kde.org/pbigqghft but it does
[23:32] <ovidiu-florin> I'm off to bed, If any of you have any ideas about that, let me know
[23:33] <ahoneybun> ok night ovidiu-florin
[23:49] <valorie> ping for what?
[23:49] <valorie> please just ask a question etc instead of a contentless ping