[03:46] <dsyntax> Q: is ubuntuMATE 15.04 out of beta?
[03:47] <dsyntax> i've been running for a while and i dont know how to tell if my system is beta still or not after dist-upgrades
[03:58] <Daekdroom> !schedule
[03:59] <Daekdroom> oh wow. That factoid hasn't been updated
[03:59] <Daekdroom> Anyway, final release is April 23rd, so yes, it is still beta.
[03:59] <Daekdroom> And yes, dist-upgrade will get you to final once it is released.
[04:18] <dsyntax> Daekdroom, i had a dist-upgrade avail yesterday is why i was wondering...
[04:23] <rww> sigh that's supposed to use variables, someone broke it
[04:23] <rww> !-schedule
[04:26] <rww> !no, schedule is <reply> A schedule of $curDevelLong ($curDevelNum) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[04:26] <rww> !no, schedule-#ubuntu+1 is <reply> A schedule of $curDevelLong ($curDevelNum) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[04:26] <rww> !schedue
[04:26] <rww> !schedule
[04:26] <rww> \o/
[10:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:58] <kal> Hi. After last update i click "Log in" button in Lubuntu 15.04 and it takes me back to the same screen.
[13:59] <kal> How to solve this?
[13:59] <k1l_> see if .Xauthority belongs to user:user
[14:01] <kal> k1l_: How to do this? I'm not that power user.
[14:01] <k1l_> log into ty and then see with ls -al
[14:01] <k1l_> ctrl+alt+f1 for tty, ctrl+alt+f7 for coming back to x-screen
[14:03] <kal> k1l_: But isn't ls for listing files?
[14:04] <k1l_> "ls -al" to get the files and their owners listed
[14:04] <kal> k1l_: OK.
[14:04] <kal> k1l_: It is my file.
[14:05] <k1l_> then see .xsession-errors whats happening there
[14:07] <kal> "upstart: not found"
[14:07] <kal> k1l_: But this Lubuntu uses systemd not upstart?
[14:09] <k1l_> i dont know tbh.
[14:12] <kal> k1l_: Thanks.
[14:12] <lordievader> kal: Is something directly invoking upstart?
[14:16] <k1l_> kal: then go on the hunt in the logs and file a bug
[14:17] <kal> k1l_: But it may not be a bug.
[14:17] <k1l_> i dont think its a feature that lubuntu doesnt login :)
[14:17] <k1l_> but i dont know what you did fiddle with your system so far
[14:17] <kal> k1l_: I haven't said that's a feature.
[14:19] <lordievader> kal: If something directly invokes upstart it is a bug. Especially when you are running systemd.
[14:19] <kal> k1l_: I see that's possible to log in as LXDE, not Lubuntu.\
[14:21] <kal> k1l_: Any suggestions in this situation?
[15:16] <lissyx> Hello
[15:16] <lissyx> Anyone knowning the lifecycle of suspending a laptop when closing the LID ?
[15:16] <lissyx> I'd like some help to identify the root cause of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1429489
[17:13] <penguin42> hmm that upgrade said it failed, but it looks like it's actually updated a lot to vivid - can someone confirm what kernel vivid has ?
[17:15] <lissyx> penguin42, 3.19
[17:15] <penguin42> lissyx: Thanks
[17:16] <penguin42> hmph, so I've not got that; I think my machine is in a curious state of flux, /etc/issue says vivid, do-release-upgrade -d claims there is nothing newer, /etc/apt/sources.list has vivid  yet the kernel in /boot still looks like it's 3.16.0-28
[17:17] <Daekdroom> penguin42, do you have all dependencies and recommended packages for ubuntu-desktop (or whichever flavour you are running)?
[17:17] <MoPac> Hello. As of the last couple of days, I've gotten what looks like an odd package configuration with a number of XOrg-related packages held back. The upgrade solution involves removing a bunch of X Server packages while upgrading others -- paste here (http://paste.ubuntu.com/10604988/ ).  I'm not sure whether this will break thinigs or is safe and just due to a reconfiguration by maintainers
[17:17] <MoPac> I'm using integrated Intel graphics (and had set the proprietary driver, though now the "software and sources" proprietary tab shows both the selected proprietary driver and a message about restarting to effect changes.
[17:20] <penguin42> Daekdroom: Well, apparently so, and I can see my kubuntu-desktop package is 1.319
[17:20] <Daekdroom> penguin42, are there any held back updates when you try dist-upgrade?
[17:21] <penguin42> no
[17:22] <penguin42> hmm wacky, I've got linux-tools-3.19 but not the newer linux-image
[17:24] <penguin42> hmm, installing linux-image-generic seems to be getting it, hmm
[17:27]  * penguin42 wonders what other random stuff he's missing
[17:39]  * penguin42 reboots
[17:41] <penguin42> hmm, well, I tried to - the new (systemd? )  reboot doesn't want to kick the current init :-)
[17:41] <lissyx> apt-get -f install ?
[17:46] <penguin42> amd we're back - a bunch of oops messages though but it's working
[17:53] <penguin42> and this laptop is probably on vivid :-)
[18:24]  * penguin42 disables baloo file search in KDE and gets his CPU back
[18:25] <MoonUnit`> disabled mine too, seemed to work ok for a while but recently very high cpu.
[18:32]  * penguin42 wishes the ludicrously thick titlebars on kde5 could be shrunk
[18:36] <MoonUnit`> you can try a compact window decoration
[18:36] <Daekdroom> I thought they could. There are a lot of customization available for them iirc.
[18:37] <penguin42> well there's a border size setting that includes a 'tiny' but it doesn't seem to make any difference for me, either on Ubuntu or Fedora KDE5
[18:42] <foormea> hi. running kubuntu 15.04, kde has stopped working: i get to sddm, but when i log in, i get a black screen with the mouse cursor, the "execute command" popup (alt-f2) shows up and nothing happens. "failsafe" (instead of plasma) results in something similar
[18:42] <foormea> that's since yesterday or the day before
[18:43] <penguin42> perhaps try creating a new user and see if that works, to see if it's something in your users directory?
[18:43] <foormea> good idea, i'll give that a try.
[18:43] <foormea> other idea would be to install another wm and see what happens (i'm suspecting that it'd work just fine :D)
[18:44] <foormea> any other idea before i reboot into linux to try that? :)
[18:44] <penguin42> could check your logs to see if there's anything obvious
[18:44] <foormea> i did, nothing obvious
[18:44] <penguin42> swear at it?
[18:44] <foormea> pretty much :D
[18:44] <foormea> in /var/log, from dmesg
[18:45] <foormea> no process *seems* to be hanging either
[18:46] <foormea> well i'll go try a new user then! thanks for the suggestion
[18:56] <foormea> penguin42: hello again :) from (k)ubuntu this time. yeah, it was a user config issue
[18:57] <foormea> i deleted some 'session' files from ~/kde and that did the trick (although i lost my panel, which i re-created)
[18:57] <penguin42> yeh, that shouldn't happen :-)
[18:57] <foormea> ~/.kde sorry but i guess you understood
[20:50] <matrixa1> Bug: With new 3.19 kernel, proprietary nvidia driver's PRIME switching stops working. OS boots with both GPUs.
[20:50] <matrixa1> Workaround: Log out, and log in again.