[00:45] hey, im trying to run postfix, it works very good, but i get this message sometimes "warning: valid_hostname: misplaced delimiter: . [00:45] " [00:45] whats wrong? === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [02:02] Can't seem to create a debootstrap install as a user [02:02] W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/user/fakeroot-x64 mount -t proc proc /proc [02:02] fakechroot fakeroot debootstrap --variant=fakechroot lucid ~/ubuntu-lucid-fakeroot-x64/ http://mirror.its.dal.ca/ubuntu/ [03:59] FreezingCold: the chroot(2) syscall requires root privileges [04:00] sarnold: Thanks for not reading at all. [04:00] FreezingCold: that may explain your failure... [04:00] Of course that's why it's failing, that IS the problem..... [04:00] fakechroot fakeroot is supposed to fix that [04:02] FreezingCold: while fakechroot will fake the chroot call for you as an unprivileged user, it will still not let you do mounts [04:02] * FreezingCold sighs [04:02] evening stgraber :) [04:02] hey sarnold [04:03] stgraber: You're mixing up fakechroot and fakeroot. [04:03] FreezingCold: I'm not. fakechroot will let you do chroot() as an unprivileged user, fakeroot will let you write files as other uids/gids than yourselves, neither will let you do mount table changes as an unprivileged user [04:04] So why is this magically a new thing? [04:04] debootstrap definitely has *TONS* of reports of working perfectly with fakechroot fakeroot as a user [04:10] hmm, so looks like the mount issue is supposed to be worked around by fakechroot by ignoring the mount and letting you see the real /proc. The problem I see here when trying with lucid on trusty is that lucid's simply too old. [04:11] the LD_PRELOAD set by fakechroot requires a recent version of the C library which lucid simply doesn't have [04:13] precise on trusty works fine [04:16] fakechroot requires a libc >= 2.14. so precise is as old as you can run (since 2.14 was never shipped by Ubuntu and the closest thing is 2.15 in precise) === ideopathic_ is now known as ideopathic === ideopathic_ is now known as ideopathic === ideopathic_ is now known as ideopathic === ideopathic_ is now known as ideopathic === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas is now known as markthomas|away [10:31] Good morning. [10:42] what does this "warning: valid_hostname: misplaced delimiter: ." message in mail.log from postfix mean? [10:43] That your hostname contains a . where it shouldnt be. [10:44] http://pastie.org/private/damb65x7gg9v7lidqhrqrq [10:44] i dont see the misstake [10:49] or should i use $mydomain for "myhostname="? [11:56] thor77: whats the hostname of your machine? [11:56] bekks: fire.crapwa.re [11:58] Then you does your config does not contain it? [11:58] bekks: i replaced crapwa.re with domain.tld in the paste [11:59] Which makes the pastebin useless. [11:59] why? [11:59] where's the difference between abc.domain.tld and fire.crapwa.re? [12:02] so... where should i place my hostname in the config? [14:38] If I run Ubuntu on Microsoft's Azure cloud, will I have to do any maintenance and package updates myself or will that all be handled automatically for free? [14:49] When you run Ubuntu on Azure, is it as IaaS or PaaS ? [15:22] MS Azure is a SAAS provider. [15:46] bekks, no I don't believe Azure does SaaS. My understanding is that Azure primarily does PaaS (their own offerings) and secondarily IaaS (third-party offerings) [15:51] smallfoot-: At least Wikipedia states that Azure is a SAAS provider :) [16:06] " It provides both PaaS and IaaS services and supports many different programming languages, tools and frameworks, including both Microsoft-specific and third-party " [16:06] *nowhere* on the Wikipedia article does it mention SaaS [16:29] heh, even if azure did saas, running ubuntu in azure is so not saas [16:48] right [16:48] If you want to run a unattended server, is it better go with Ubuntu Server or CentOS? [16:49] Maybe I should go with CentOS, they are more professional and don't live in the dream world where they will make it on tablet and smartphones lol [16:53] smallfoot-: To that question, what answer do you really expect in a channel named #ubuntu-server? :) [17:05] true [17:07] heh? centos doesn't live in anyworld [17:08] they have no dreams or ambissions [17:08] they *just* feed off redhat [17:08] I wonder if their *security patching* is fixed yet, or not [17:13] oh, CentOS is bad at security patching? [17:13] it used to lag a month+ behind [17:13] since rhel has taken them in, I haven't been keeping track [17:13] centos is only *maintained* by 2 people [17:13] only so much they can do [17:14] oh, i see [17:14] I didn't know it was that bad === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [20:30] rbasak, hey, finally got around to fixing the bcache repo, but I can't push because there's a remote hook that rejects non-fast-forward updates :-\ [20:31] jamespage, ^ what's the best way to resolve that? === KDDLB is now known as reyn1r === reyn1r is now known as KDDLB === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away