[05:46] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  and others
[06:07] <Kilos> hmm...
[06:13] <Kilos> inetpro  fixit
[07:20] <Kilos> morning Tonberry  
[07:21] <Tonberry> hi
[07:23] <nlsthzn> morning uncle Kilos , all 
[07:24]  * Kilos thinks all has gone to church
[07:29] <nlsthzn> oh yes, sunday today... monday for me :/
[07:29] <nlsthzn> *yawn*
[07:29] <Kilos> ai!
[07:32] <Kilos> nlsthzn  what is the fridge thing in ubuntu?
[07:33] <nlsthzn> place of news
[07:33] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:34] <nlsthzn> like a fridge where you stick all the papers and stuff to do with school and from the "newspapers" etc
[07:34] <Kilos> ahaaa
[07:34] <nlsthzn> Kilos, http://fridge.ubuntu.com//about/
[07:34] <nlsthzn> a better explanation :p
[07:34] <Kilos> why is no oneapplying for the membership board
[07:35] <Kilos> they also seem to have got too busy like everywhere else
[07:35] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , look how afraid you where to apply for membership
[07:36] <nlsthzn> I think this is a order of magnitude more intimidating
[07:36] <Kilos> hahaha im thinking of going for it
[07:36] <nlsthzn> I for one don't feel qualified to even think about it
[07:36] <Kilos> we cant let that collapse as well
[07:36] <nlsthzn> go for it uncle Kilos ... but take note your short time being a member will count against you
[07:36] <nlsthzn> it won't collapse :)
[07:37] <nlsthzn> they have nominations, they would simply like more
[07:37] <Kilos> im definitely not qualified but one crumb is better than nothing
[07:37] <nlsthzn> to be more democratic about it I guess
[07:37] <Kilos> oh thats good then
[07:38] <nlsthzn> but if you like go for it... will show your willing and bring you to some peeps attention... if you don't get it this time then next time should be much easier :)
[07:38] <Kilos> ive noticed that noobs go to locoteams for help but no one helps them
[07:38] <nlsthzn> I do believe you are qualified for this... you understand people and you are passionate about Ubuntu etc...
[07:38] <Kilos> oh
[07:39] <nlsthzn> strong locoteams can help the local people... weak ones don't / can't
[07:40] <Kilos> im talking about #ubuntu-locoteams
[07:40] <Kilos> they like here they first leave me to mess up
[07:40] <Kilos> but here at least someone jumps in
[07:43] <nlsthzn> I don't think that that channel is for support to be honest
[07:44] <nlsthzn> people should be directed to #ubuntu or #ubuntu-beginners 
[07:44] <nlsthzn> there are more people geared towards helping via IRC there
[07:44] <Kilos> ya but ive seen in the africa locos they give that link for where to go for help
[07:44] <Kilos> something wrong somewhere
[07:45] <Kilos> ah ill try remember #ubuntu-beginners
[07:45] <Kilos> i wondered why no one helped
[07:45] <nlsthzn> from #ubuntu-locoteams header -  Software support in #ubuntu #xubuntu #kubuntu #lubuntu #ubuntu-gnome #edubuntu #ubuntustudio
[07:46] <nlsthzn> that channel is for issues with loco related things
[07:46] <nlsthzn> not ubuntu supprot
[07:46] <Kilos> aha
[07:46] <nlsthzn> support
[07:46] <Kilos> ty for that
[08:02] <nlsthzn> np :)
[08:03] <Kilos> haha you went there too
[08:06] <nlsthzn> had to have a look :p
[08:06] <Kilos> haha
[08:29] <Kilos> bad news this many channels open
[08:29] <nlsthzn> lol
[08:29] <Kilos> not funny man sjoe
[08:32] <nlsthzn> just need to learn to focus... or just close some channels... can
[08:32] <nlsthzn> can't be in all of em :p
[08:32] <Kilos> lol
[08:32] <Kilos> focus mean sthinking and thats bad for the brain
[08:51] <Mopkop> Good morning all!
[08:52] <Kilos> hi Mopkop  
[09:14] <Kilos> hi lin_  
[09:17] <danfowle1> Kilos: I know, right?
[09:17] <danfowle1> silent, but deadly
[09:18] <danfowle1> wait remove that last part
[09:18] <Kilos> you must chat with us sometimes danfowle1  
[09:18] <Kilos> hehe we a friendly channel
[09:25] <Symmetria> hrm
[09:25] <Symmetria> I think I am way 2 good at pissing people off
[09:25] <Kilos> lol
[09:25] <Symmetria> some guy was threatening me 
[09:25] <Symmetria> so I replied:  You are in my mind, nothing more than an annoyance, and remind me of a mosquito that buzzes around in a non-maleria area, very irritating, and can make you itch, but really, pretty harmless.
[09:26] <Symmetria> :P he went ballistic when he saw that 
[09:51] <Mopkop> I think I broke thunderbird.
[09:51] <Kilos> wb Mopkop  wat maak jy
[09:51] <Kilos> oh my
[09:52] <Kilos> haha you are better than me at breaking things seems like
[09:52] <Mopkop> Trying to fix it, but according to Google it is an official bug.
[09:52] <Mopkop> Yea, seems that way.
[09:52] <Kilos> the make a bug report or go tell them how you fix it
[09:53] <Kilos> i dont like or use thunderbird at all
[09:53] <Mopkop> What do you use then?
[09:53] <Kilos> for email i use evolution on pop
[09:54] <Kilos> peeps say im old fashioned, but it works for me and has a great built in backup tool 
[09:55] <Mopkop> I don't like pop. Thought of using Geary, but it is still underdeveloped. 
[09:55] <Mopkop> Very fast and neat though.
[09:55] <Kilos> you can use evo on that other thing too
[09:55] <Kilos> there are some others some of the guys use
[09:56] <Mopkop> You mean IMAP?
[09:56] <Kilos> imap its called i think , but for me pop only fetches recent mail so that why i use it
[09:56] <Kilos> haha
[09:57] <Mopkop> I just delete old mails, so IMAP works fine for me :) I use my inbox as a to-do list. :)
[09:57] <Kilos> with pop i can use different pcs and not download  everything every time
[09:57] <Kilos> i have tons of mails all at gmail
[09:58] <Kilos> will take a week to delete them
[09:58] <Mopkop> You're going to break gmail with all that mail!
[09:58] <Kilos> lol
[09:58] <Kilos> they offer free space so they mustnt complain if i use it
[10:06] <Mopkop> It'll make your life much easier if you have a tidy inbox :)
[10:07] <Kilos> my inbox is lekker, i only keep mails i might use again
[10:07] <Kilos> need again
[10:14] <Mopkop> Ever heard about the Collyer brothers? They died in their own house because the could not find the door, because they were hoarders.
[10:14] <Mopkop> You're going to drown in all that mail.
[10:15] <Kilos> lol its not here by me man its in the sky
[10:16] <Mopkop> Causing air pollution, no doubt. Global warming is on you then.
[10:16] <Mopkop> :)
[10:20] <Kilos> lol 
[10:20] <Kilos> i got eat now
[10:46] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:46] <Kilos> lekka duk nou
[10:55] <Mopkop> Lekker slaap!
[10:55] <Kilos> hahaha
[11:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[12:02] <Mopkop> I fixed thunderbird!
[12:02] <Mopkop> Yay!
[12:02] <Mopkop> Ant it took me only 4 hours :)
[12:02] <Maaz> Mopkop: Excuse me?
[12:03] <Kilos> lol
[12:06] <Kilos> well done
[12:06] <Kilos> now go to the bug and teach them how to fix it
[14:00] <Kilos> hi psydroid  
[14:00] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[14:32] <Kilos> afternoon superfly  
[14:45] <Kilos> ai!
[15:23] <stickyboy> No ai!
[16:02] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:49] <Kilos> hi kulelu88  
[16:49] <kulelu88> Hello oom. 
[17:22] <inetpro> good evening
[17:22] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[17:22] <inetpro> Kilos: what must I fix again?
[17:22] <Kilos> um
[17:22] <inetpro> 03/15 08:13:52 <Kilos> inetpro  fixit
[17:22] <Kilos> oh ya my head
[17:23] <inetpro> ai!
[17:23] <Kilos> i added a thing in trello but dunno if i should
[17:24] <Kilos> would need lots more input
[17:25] <Kilos> tempted though
[17:27] <inetpro> no need to rush into it
[17:28] <Kilos> lol fools rush in where angels fear to tread
[17:28] <Kilos> its either before the end of this month or in 2 years time
[17:28] <inetpro> surely you can take part as a non-member as if you're a member
[17:29] <inetpro> only your vote doesn't count
[17:29] <Kilos> the mails from them said peeps are retiring or expiring so they need replacements
[17:30] <Kilos> they extended it by 2 weeks because of poor showing
[17:30] <inetpro> that's normal business as usual
[17:31] <Kilos> so they dont need more peeps?
[17:31] <Kilos> ai!
[17:31] <inetpro> talk to them man
[17:31]  * inetpro don't have all the answers
[17:31] <Kilos> i dont know who to talk to
[17:32] <Kilos> it would mean more hours awake for me though
[17:32] <inetpro> in that case you can forget it
[17:32] <Kilos> ok
[17:33] <inetpro> start by getting to know the people involved and find out from them what it entails
[17:33] <inetpro> not from us
[17:33] <Kilos> its mainly those 2 meetings
[17:33] <Kilos> lunch time and mid night
[17:34] <Kilos> maybe ill mail that chick that sends out the mails
[17:34] <Kilos> one cant leave everything hoping someone else will jump in
[18:30] <Kilos> hi magellanic  
[18:32] <magellanic> heya
[19:09] <gremble> o/
[19:09] <Kilos> gremble  wb
[19:10] <gremble> How are you Kilos
[19:10] <Kilos> im good ty lad and you?
[19:11] <gremble> I am well thank you
[19:11] <gremble> Just too lazy to work now
[19:11] <Kilos> lol
[19:11] <Kilos> so only when you too lazy to work you come here?
[19:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:14] <magellanic> I do too, but then Kilos tries to out work to me...
[19:14] <magellanic> dish out*
[19:14] <gremble> Pretty much Kilos 
[19:15] <Kilos> lol
[19:15] <gremble> Because when I'm not lazy, I work, then I cannot be here :P
[19:15] <Kilos> that all part of the game
[19:17] <gremble> I'm trying to make a simple game of life simulator, but I am unsure of how to randomly populate a block one unit away from an already populated block
[19:22] <magellanic> shouldn't be random though? block lives based on its neighbouring blocks or something?
[19:23] <gremble> Ah. That is a much simpler way to implement it. Thanks
[19:23] <gremble> Haha
[19:23] <gremble> I was going to spawn it from a living one
[19:23] <gremble> not to a living one
[19:23] <gremble> :P
[19:23] <magellanic> I think rules are that initial states are random
[19:24] <magellanic> and then there are rules around block survival/death based on neighbours
[19:24] <gremble> Yup
[19:24]  * superfly stumbles in
[19:24] <gremble> My idea was to scan the blocks until a find a living one, then randomly populate a block around it
[19:24] <Kilos> aw my flr wassup
[19:24] <magellanic> heya superfly 
[19:25] <Kilos> fly as well
[19:25] <gremble> But it makes more sense to populate a block based on whether there is a living one close to it
[19:25] <gremble> Hey superfly 
[19:26] <magellanic> you mean for game state changes?
[19:26] <gremble> For the single cell, yes
[19:26] <magellanic> I think you'd have to do it for each block, if 3 or more living neighbours, that one lives, etc
[19:27] <gremble> Yup
[19:27] <gremble> That is what I agreed with you initially
[19:27] <magellanic> which language are you doing it in? using double arrays or such?
[19:27] <gremble> C++
[19:28] <gremble> Yes, using a multidimensional array
[19:28] <gremble> I am thinking about making it a multidimensional game :P
[19:28] <magellanic> good luck
[19:29] <gremble> Thanks. I wanted to do it in brainfuck, but then I considered becoming a herion bum instead
[19:30] <magellanic> well c++ is as worse as they come, so... ;)
[19:31] <gremble> Psh
[19:31] <gremble> Its nice
[19:36] <superfly> magellanic: come do it in C on our microcontroller, then you'll gain an appreciation for C++
[19:36] <magellanic> haha
[19:36] <gremble> I cannot wait to do C on a microcontroller :D
[19:37] <magellanic> okay point taken
[19:37] <superfly> I've always thought that the people who dis C++ have never really used it themselves, and they've also never programmed in C :-P
[19:38] <gremble> I've never really understood why people dislike it so much
[19:38] <gremble> It is my language of choice
[19:38]  * gremble shrugs
[19:41] <superfly> gremble: my language of choice is Python, but C++ is my second.
[19:42] <gremble> I like python, but I'm terrified of the 2.7-3.4 disparity
[19:43] <gremble> I would just want to work with 3.4 and never look back... But I am fairly sure that I cannot
[19:43] <gremble> haha
[19:43] <superfly> gremble: it's hardly a disparity
[19:43] <gremble> I think disparity is the incorrect word. My lexicon is broken
[19:43] <superfly> gremble: people make it sound far worse than it is
[19:45] <gremble> Hmm. Well, that doesn't really matter. I prefer it for scientific computing over matlab/mathematica/maple/magma/whatever
[19:45] <gremble> So I will use it anyway
[19:45] <gremble> haha
[19:45] <superfly> I have codebases in both, and the biggest difference is remembering to drop the "u" for unicode ;-)
[19:45] <superfly> ah yes
[19:45] <superfly> I've heard "horror" stories of matlab
[19:45] <gremble> That and Julia, but I still want to play more with julia
[19:46] <gremble> Engineers are addicted to matlab and that will get me a job one day ;)
[19:46] <superfly> gremble: where are you based, and what do you do?
[19:46] <gremble> Pretoria, Applied Mathematics
[19:46] <gremble> Probably specialise in EE
[19:46] <gremble> Electrical Engineering
[19:46] <superfly> Yep, I got that ;-)
[19:47] <gremble> Information Theory
[19:47] <superfly> when are you finishing up?
[19:47] <gremble> 2016 I finish my bachelors, but I would like to do honours+
[19:49] <superfly> oh dear
[19:49] <Kilos> wb gremble  
[19:50] <gremble> Thank you. Irssi was connecting like a crazy person
[20:17] <kulelu88> only the truly gifted do honours in mathematics :D
[20:17] <Kilos> lol
[20:18] <gremble> :P
[20:18] <kulelu88> gremble: if you like the power of C++ with the beauty of Python, you should try writing code in Nim
[20:18] <gremble> I've looked at Nim, I may play around in future
[20:18] <kulelu88> although I've given up writing Nim for now
[20:18] <gremble> For now though I am going to hit the sack
[20:18] <gremble> cheers
[20:18] <kulelu88> tc
[20:18] <Kilos> night gremble  
[21:02] <Squirm> evening
[21:02] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[21:08] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:15] <Squirm> Off myself