[22:16] <watsoncomputers> ubuntu-gnome live dvd has no desktop when run, pc: Aopen 965MP, 2.0Ghz Core 2 Duo T7300, 2 Gigs Mem, no efi boot for USB but another unit has KodiUbuntu running and boots from USB stick, I am New to Linux
[22:19] <watsoncomputers> I tried 14.10 amd64 and i386, no luck, It does run UbuntuStudieo live dvd
[22:21] <watsoncomputers> I do have access to terminal
[22:21] <darkxst> probably graphics issue, what GPU you have?
[22:22] <watsoncomputers> Intel Mesa DRI 965GM
[22:22] <darkxst> try boot with nomodeset
[22:22] <watsoncomputers> basicly intel 965 graphics
[22:24] <watsoncomputers> Ok I am new to this , how do you boot with nomodeset with a live dvd?
[22:25] <watsoncomputers> I currently have a terminal window of the live dvd on that machine
[22:25] <watsoncomputers> open
[22:28] <manokara> if i'm not mistaken you need to press 'e' when the boot menu shows up, then add nomodeset to the command line and press return
[22:31] <watsoncomputers> Ok I will try that
[22:41] <watsoncomputers> I got a terminal prompt
[22:42] <manokara> maybe tab key?
[22:43] <watsoncomputers> well I have the terminal how do I launch the desktop?
[22:43] <manokara> it should've appeared some command line on the bottom of the boot list
[22:43] <manokara> but instead it showed up a full terminal?
[22:43] <watsoncomputers> I am at ubuntu-gnome@ubuntu-gnome
[22:44] <manokara> take a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19486/how-do-i-add-a-kernel-boot-parameter?lq=1
[22:44] <watsoncomputers> Ok I have no boot list on this machine that I know of. I have to go into the bios and select the 1st boot device
[22:45] <manokara> that's because by default grub timeout is set to 0
[22:46] <watsoncomputers> will do but if your trying to get people to try it out it shouldn't have to be this hard. Just saying
[22:47] <manokara> yeah I know, linux can be quite a struggle sometimes :/
[22:47] <watsoncomputers> I have made 4 versions of Ubuntu and 3 worked, gnome not
[22:48] <manokara> gnome worked the best for me. I had KDE Arch Linux install and after some time I started to have graphics issues
[22:48] <watsoncomputers> I'll read the add a kernel stuff after I try Mate
[22:48] <manokara> allright, good luck :)
[22:49] <watsoncomputers> On this machine Unity is working just fine but wanted to see what gnome 3 was about
[22:51] <watsoncomputers> Oh damn I didn't know it was that easy to add, Thanks!:)
[22:51] <manokara> you're welcome!
[22:53] <watsoncomputers> Ok for live dvd,but will this be an issue if I install?
[22:53] <manokara> probably not, but if it does you can do the same process
[22:55] <watsoncomputers> yea and make it permanent
[22:55] <manokara> yes. it can save the livecd's boot parameters, or not. can't really tell that :P
[23:01] <watsoncomputers> Well I pressed f6 and selected nomodeset and it booted to the terminal full screen again
[23:02] <watsoncomputers> how to launch the desktop from the terminal
[23:03] <manokara> try startx
[23:09] <watsoncomputers> well I have a desktop background but the launcher went stage left, I have a mouse!
[23:11] <manokara> can you interact with it? like pressing alt+f2 ou Super key
[23:11] <watsoncomputers> Any suggestions on how to get it back?
[23:12] <watsoncomputers> superkey and alt f2 just dim the screen
[23:12] <John_The_User> are you on a laptop?
[23:13] <watsoncomputers> no NUC style Media Player PC as stated earlier
[23:13] <watsoncomputers> Sorry I started out with the specs
[23:14] <watsoncomputers> pretty vanilla intel pc if you ask me
[23:16] <manokara> did you try the Boot-Repair solution from that askubuntu link?
[23:16] <watsoncomputers> Hey when I right mouse click I got the settngs window
[23:16] <John_The_User> can you do ctrl+alt+T and bring up a terminal?
[23:17] <watsoncomputers> This live dvd offered that when I press f6 from the try ubuntu-gnome menu
[23:17] <watsoncomputers> Yes
[23:18] <watsoncomputers> could the desktop be larger than my screen or does the launcher menu have some setting to change to show all the time?
[23:19] <John_The_User> It shouldn't be larger than your screen unless your screen has an overscan problem. When you move the mouse into the top left corner does it disappear?
[23:20] <watsoncomputers> no I just checked it 1360x768
[23:21] <John_The_User> Wish I could help you more, I'm no expert. Just a casual user
[23:21] <watsoncomputers> what drives the launcher bar? If I can call it that in Unity its on the left but you can set it to auto hide. Is this something like that?
[23:22] <John_The_User> It doesn't hide. It just sits at the top
[23:22] <watsoncomputers> ok maybe someone else has an Idea
[23:22] <manokara> yea... i kinda ran out of ideas, hehe
[23:22] <watsoncomputers> Thanks for your help I am alot further along than an hour ago
[23:23] <John_The_User> as long as you have a terminal then you can do a lot
[23:23] <John_The_User> as far as troubleshooting and testing goes
[23:25] <manokara> what was the actual problem? black screen?
[23:25] <manokara> irc doesn't show previous messages :/
[23:27] <watsoncomputers> ok when I try to run ubuntu-gnome from the live dvd I would get a blank desktop, then after selecting nomodeset It booted to terminal
[23:28] <watsoncomputers> I started x and now have a blank desktop but mouse rt-click got me the all settings window
[23:29] <watsoncomputers> alt-t gets  me a teminal window. how do I get the normal gnome desktop with a launcher?
[23:30] <manokara> well, it might make no difference at all but, try gnome-shell at the terminal instead of startx
[23:31] <watsoncomputers> can I do that from terminal on the desktop I have or do I need to reboot?
[23:31] <manokara> I recommend rebooting
[23:33] <watsoncomputers> rebooting
[23:43] <watsoncomputers> I don't get it. It goes straight to the blank desktop non stop now
[23:44] <manokara> lol
[23:44] <watsoncomputers> the grey gnome logo just did it's thing and then up pops the blueish background
[23:45] <watsoncomputers> no mouse or term
[23:45] <watsoncomputers> but the num lock key lights up when pressed
[23:46] <watsoncomputers> ok the mouse responds now but no launcher or icons
[23:46] <John_The_User> it sounds like it's detecting a second screen and showing you the second one
[23:46] <watsoncomputers> no desktop bar
[23:47] <John_The_User> there are two displayport ports on that pc correct?
[23:47] <watsoncomputers> checked that the last time in settings I was on the primary but did show two other not conected screens
[23:48] <watsoncomputers> I only have one but other pc'c on the other inputs
[23:49] <watsoncomputers> Just one DVI but I get VGA off it with an adapter
[23:55] <watsoncomputers> I got the menu back
[23:56] <watsoncomputers> so I am checking the disk
[23:56] <manokara> is everything working now?
[23:57] <watsoncomputers> no
[23:57] <watsoncomputers> just ruling out bad media
[23:58] <manokara> still can't access the terminal right?
[23:58] <watsoncomputers> holding the left shift key as it starts up brings up the boot menu: Try Ubuntu-Gnome, instal and the f# options
[23:58] <manokara> i would try checking xrandr on a tty to see what's going on with the displays
[23:59] <manokara> hmm
[23:59] <watsoncomputers> It's the live DVD, if it doesn't work from there, How can I be sure it will from HD
[23:59] <manokara> exatcly
[23:59] <watsoncomputers> Ok the media is good