[09:59] <PaulW2U> editorial review done
[16:27] <jose> pleia2: sorry, was out. sure, will do!
[16:30] <pleia2> jose: thanks, it's over in the wiki
[16:30] <jose> yep, taking a look now
[16:33] <jose> pleia2: eh... nope. broken. the link takes me to an intel cpu microdecode support post
[16:34] <jose> let's fix that...
[16:34] <pleia2> oops, the real link is: http://thinkonbytes.blogspot.com/2015/03/linux-tapas-2015-leon-sabado-21-marzo.html
[16:37] <jose> yeah, got it :)
[16:37] <jose> firefox decided to delete all my cookies and I had to re-login to the wiki, painful
[16:38] <pleia2> oof
[16:43] <jose> but it looks good as is
[16:44] <pleia2> great
[16:59] <PaulW2U> Didn't spot the bad link, saw "Article in Spanish" and moved on :(
[17:00]  * pleia2 blames her paste buffer
[18:27] <pleia2> PaulW2U: I'm going to do a last over on editorial, let me know when you're around to release
[18:27] <wxl> hey guys, if you see any news for xtra-pc, which seems to be a lubuntu (or at least a lxde) ripoff, please don't publish it
[18:27] <pleia2> I'm around for the next hour, then doing some errand with the husband (we're both working from home today, oy)
[18:28] <wxl> i'm quite sure this is not legitimate
[18:28] <pleia2> wxl: good to know!
[18:28] <wxl> it's on lifehacker and linux foundation among other places
[18:28] <wxl> but they don't offer copyright notices for the logos they use
[18:28] <wxl> their licensing is a bit funky
[18:28] <wxl> they don't even acknowledge that they're a linux distro
[18:29] <pleia2> weird
[18:31] <wxl> did you get a download, too, Kamilion /
[18:31] <wxl> oops wrong channel
[18:38] <PaulW2U> pleia2: ready when you are
[18:41] <pleia2> PaulW2U: great, finishing my final review now, while you're waiting might want to grab the publishing scripts: bzr branch lp:uwn
[18:43] <PaulW2U> good job I have bzr installed, done ;)
[18:45] <pleia2> we'll need to have you install some dependencies too with perl+python, which is the real annoying part
[18:48] <pleia2> off the top of my head, apt-get install libwww-perl libtext-unidecode-perl
[18:50] <PaulW2U> done
[18:52] <pleia2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[18:52] <pleia2> so, we're starting with #11
[18:52] <PaulW2U> yep, having two screens is handy right now ;)
[18:53] <pleia2> you're in the driver's seat now :) edit the wiki to add the bullet-points
[18:53] <pleia2> this part is pretty at-editor's-descretion, we want a good sampling of articles for the newsletter, but not so many that it makes later in the process harder (manual checking of all fridge links, since fridge script is imperfect with non-standard characters)
[18:54] <pleia2> so I'll typically include headers for all sections, unless I'm including an article from that section
[18:57] <PaulW2U> I think I see what's needed...
[19:01] <pleia2> just let me know when you're ready for the next step (I'm working, but pingable)
[19:02] <pleia2> I usually keep two copies of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue408 open, one that I am editing and one that I'm copying articles from the Table of Contents of
[19:02] <PaulW2U> you tell me now :)
[19:02] <pleia2> last bullet-point needs to be: * And much more! (exactly that, our fridge script expects it)
[19:02] <pleia2> haha, sorry :)
[19:03] <PaulW2U> got 12 items listed, enough?
[19:04] <pleia2> looks like I usually have 20 or so
[19:05] <pleia2> want to save so I can make a few suggestions?
[19:06] <PaulW2U> saved
[19:07] <pleia2> so, I typically make them go in order, and include all the planet ones (people like seeing their names in to ToC)
[19:08] <pleia2> also want to include these toward the bottom:
[19:08] <pleia2> Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings
[19:08] <pleia2> Monthly Team Reports: February 2015
[19:08] <pleia2> Upcoming Meetings and Events
[19:10] <PaulW2U> how's that? might need re-ordering
[19:11] <PaulW2U> wasn't expecting this part. always wondered how it was created ;)
[19:11] <pleia2> yeah, it does need reordering
[19:11] <pleia2> let me toss it in an etherpad real quick
[19:12] <pleia2> http://pad.ubuntu.com/Iot9Cmzoyz
[19:14] <pleia2> ok, that's what I'd probably go with ^^
[19:15] <PaulW2U> copied over
[19:17] <pleia2> ok, now #12 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[19:17] <pleia2> (typically I do this in the same step)
[19:17] <pleia2> so we're removing all the comments, and the '''WORK IN PROGRESS''' bit
[19:18] <pleia2> once I remove all the ## comments at the top of the file, I search the document in my browser for ## to make sure there aren't any others the snuck in (sometimes editors would add comments that I missed)
[19:19] <PaulW2U> yes, searched for ##, nothing found
[19:19] <pleia2> one last fix up in the list: UbuTab needs to be Ubu``Tab
[19:21] <PaulW2U> done
[19:21] <pleia2> now, scripts!
[19:21] <pleia2> so, you branched the uwn repo, now open a terminal and cd uwn/
[19:22] <PaulW2U> ok
[19:22] <pleia2> there is a publish-uwn.pl script in there that we use for generating all the things
[19:22] <PaulW2U> ok
[19:23] <pleia2> so if you have all dependencies installed (we'll find out) you should just be able to: ./publish-uwn.pl 408
[19:23] <pleia2> have http://paste.ubuntu.com/ handy, I expect errors ;)
[19:23] <PaulW2U> 404 not found at line 22
[19:24] <pleia2> any indication as to which script?
[19:24] <pleia2> this is a wrapper for a bunch ofthem
[19:24] <PaulW2U> sorry, publish-uwn.pl
[19:24] <pleia2> I mean, publish-uwn.pl runs a bunch of scripts, so "line 22" could mean any of them
[19:24] <pleia2> is the only output you get "404 not found at line 22" ?
[19:25] <PaulW2U> yes - 404 Not Found at ./publish-uwn.pl line 22.
[19:25] <pleia2> ok, let's see..
[19:26] <pleia2> and your command was ./publish-uwn.pl 408
[19:27] <pleia2> 408 should populate the $issue variable, so it looks for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue408?action=raw
[19:27] <PaulW2U> perhaps it wasn't ???
[19:27] <pleia2> what wasn't? :)
[19:28] <pleia2> btw, getting these scripts to work is the hardest part, but once it's done, it's done! and scripts make the whole process easier in the long run, we should document what we discover here with your setup
[19:29] <PaulW2U> I'm confused but i have a directory issues/408 with a 408 file in it
[19:29] <pleia2> just a 408 file?
[19:29] <pleia2> if everything worked as expected, issues/408 should have:
[19:29] <pleia2> forum.post  loco-contacts.email  microblog.txt  ubuntu-news.email  ubuntu-news-team.email
[19:30] <PaulW2U> yes, it's all there
[19:30] <pleia2> ok, open one of them with gedit, see if there is anything in it :)
[19:30] <pleia2> try ubuntu-news.email
[19:31] <PaulW2U> gedit? Kubuntu here :)
[19:31] <PaulW2U> success !
[19:31] <pleia2> ok, great :)
[19:32] <pleia2> open up forum.post and 408 to see if they're populated too
[19:32] <pleia2> forum.post is ubuntuforums.org, of course, 408 is fridge
[19:32] <pleia2> and it occurs to me you probably don't have access to the fridge
[19:32] <pleia2> so we'll get that fixed too
[19:32] <PaulW2U> both populated
[19:33] <pleia2> does 408 actually have all the URLs in it? (not an empty list)
[19:33] <PaulW2U> 408 is a short version with URLs
[19:33] <pleia2> perfect
[19:33] <pleia2> ok, so running scripts seems ok so far, which was step 13https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[19:34] <pleia2> typically I send to ubuntu-news next, but that's the one we can't take back, so let's skip down to #19
[19:34] <pleia2> forums we can edit posts on if anything looks funky :)
[19:35] <PaulW2U> ok, ready to post
[19:35] <pleia2> now, the forums script is kind of broken, I should fix it in the script, but I should do many things
[19:36] <pleia2> so in whatever editor you're using, you need to replace \n\n with \n
[19:36] <pleia2> (this works in gedit)
[19:36] <pleia2> we're replacing double newlines with single newline
[19:36] <pleia2> otherwise the post looks all kinds of whitespacy
[19:36] <PaulW2U> 507 found
[19:37] <pleia2> does your editor have a "replace all"?
[19:37] <PaulW2U> yes, replaced
[19:37] <pleia2> great
[19:37] <pleia2> so ignore the url, copy the title over, and then copy the text in
[19:38] <pleia2> then in the forum meta stuff at the bottom, uncheck "Show your signature" check "Disable smilies in text" and check "Stick this thread"
[19:39] <PaulW2U> ok
[19:39] <pleia2> then you can publish it
[19:39] <pleia2> now we want to edit the forum thread for 407
[19:40] <pleia2> have to edit, go into advanced and make it unsticky
[19:40] <pleia2> hmm, looks like it didn't remove all the double newlines :(
[19:40] <pleia2> compare how 407 looks http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2268568 vs 408 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2269570
[19:41] <PaulW2U> editor has just found another 137
[19:42] <pleia2> ok, you'll just want to work with your editor (or switch to gedit ;)) to figure out what went wrong there
[19:43] <pleia2> I'm actually a vim user and Xubuntu ships with mousepad, I just use gedit for this because it works so well for UWN
[19:43] <PaulW2U> now it looks squashed up :)
[19:43] <pleia2> yikes, that's too squashed
[19:43] <pleia2> let's try from scratch, I'll upload the original forums.post
[19:44] <pleia2> wget http://princessleia.com/temp/forum.post
[19:46] <pleia2> I really should just fix this on the script side, but it used to not always require this fix up (sometimes the formatting would be correct), but it's been a while since the formatting was right
[19:46]  * pleia2 adds to her todo list
[19:50] <PaulW2U> how's that, any better?
[19:51] <pleia2> nope, it's back to having double newlines
[19:52] <pleia2> I can just fix this up if you want, I'll fix the script so you won't have to worry about this in the future
[19:53] <PaulW2U> I think you had better, if I ask my editor to do a search/replace again it removes all line spacing
[19:54] <pleia2> :\
[19:54] <pleia2> maybe your editor uses something other than the standard \n\n for double newlines? I don't know, could be it doesn't understand it at all
[19:55] <PaulW2U> Or may be I don't understand :) Regex - urrghh
[19:55] <pleia2> anyway, fixing up
[19:56] <pleia2> neat, I'm not sure I can edit this
[19:56] <pleia2> grab http://princessleia.com/temp/forum.post again, it's the no-double-newlines version now
[19:59] <pleia2> I need to take a break soon, the husband is hungry for lunch ;)
[19:59] <PaulW2U> no different?
[20:00] <pleia2> weird
[20:00] <pleia2> I'll rename the file, maybe you got a cached version
[20:00] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/temp/forum2.post
[20:01] <pleia2> should just be able to load that your browser and copy directly into the forum post body
[20:01] <pleia2> also need to remove the url and title from the top of the post
[20:02] <PaulW2U> I did but they kept coming back!
[20:02] <pleia2> this is really strange, maybe something weird with kubuntu copy/paste?
[20:03] <pleia2> it also became unsticky somewhere along the way
[20:04] <PaulW2U> Juts pasted into cream/vim - seems to be the same
[20:04] <pleia2> frustrating :(
[20:05] <pleia2> even fixing the script won't help if it won't properly paste the proper file
[20:05] <pleia2> I guess we just leave it this way
[20:06] <PaulW2U> Or have your lunch and I'll rig up Xubuntu with a keyboard and try later?
[20:06] <pleia2> yeah, maybe
[20:07] <pleia2> we'll skip fridge and discourse posting, since they're related and you don't have access yet (I'll get you access and we can go over those next week or so)
[20:07] <pleia2> wiki should be easy to do now (steps 21-25)
[20:08] <pleia2> starts with edits to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[20:08] <pleia2> The Current Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is Issue #407 for the week of March 2 - 8, 2015.
[20:08] <pleia2> ^^ that, with links, needs to be updated with 408
[20:09] <pleia2> also down under "Next Issue (work in progress)" need to replace 408 with 409
[20:09] <PaulW2U> done
[20:09] <pleia2> for step 23, actually click on "edit /Current" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[20:10] <pleia2> that will bring up the direct editing page for /Current - otherwise you get stuck in wiki redirect land
[20:10] <PaulW2U> done
[20:11] <pleia2> then step 25 is editing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive to add 408
[20:12] <PaulW2U> done
[20:13] <pleia2> all looks good, phew, at least that was easy :)
[20:13] <pleia2> we don't actually use microblog.txt and I need to get you access to our social media accounts anyway
[20:14] <pleia2> I think the last bit is the emails
[20:15] <pleia2> have a look at ubuntu-news.email ubuntu-news-team.email and loco-contacts.email
[20:16] <pleia2> loco-contacts.email is actually incomplete, I need to fix it to also include the bit at the end that I add now, like: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2015-March/006946.html
[20:16] <pleia2> the "Have news, photos..." bit
[20:17] <pleia2> and you should manually put in info from whatever loco is in the newsletter, if any
[20:17] <pleia2> like in that one, I mentioned the Myanmar team, in this one you might put something like: Including news about an upcoming event in Leon, Spain.
[20:17] <PaulW2U> ok
[20:18] <pleia2> if you're subscribed to ubuntu-news-team and loco-contacts, you're all set to just send those mails (we send from our @ubuntu.com addresses)
[20:19] <pleia2> the file helps by giving you the To: address and Subject: to use
[20:20] <PaulW2U> Probably not loco-contacts
[20:20] <pleia2> ok, you'll want to subscribe there, in the mailing list settings you can set yourself not to receive mail if you don't want them
[20:21] <pleia2> (though it's pretty low traffic, and good for collecting loco news :D)
[20:22] <PaulW2U> subscribed
[20:22] <pleia2> the husband is finally ready for lunch, I need to run out for that
[20:22] <pleia2> you can go ahead and send all three emails if you want, ubuntu-news will be held in a moderator queue anyway and I can review when I get back, and let it through if it looks good
[20:23] <pleia2> should be back in an hour or so
[20:23] <PaulW2U> ok........... :)
[20:44] <PaulW2U> Installed gedit on Xubuntu 15.04 no change posting with Chrome
[20:49] <PaulW2U> What you see now posted with Firefox on Xubuntu 15.04 but still doesn't look right :(
[21:05] <PaulW2U> pleia2: Success! Posting must be done in source mode not WYSIWYG mode!
[21:19] <pleia2> PaulW2U: aha! noted :)
[21:20] <pleia2> woohoo https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2015-March/000486.html
[21:20] <pleia2> other mails looked good too :)
[21:22] <PaulW2U> hours of fun this - could have written all the summaries in less time :)
[21:24] <pleia2> with practice, it takes me about 20-30 minutes to do it all (depends on slowness of wiki, SSO logins)
[21:25] <PaulW2U> do I not get a copy of the newsletter then?
[21:26] <pleia2> do you use gmail?
[21:28] <pleia2> Welcome to the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 408 for the week March 9 - 15, 2015 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue408
[21:28] <pleia2> ^^ I usually say that in here, and use the same to put on Twitter & Facebook, G+ gets a similar thing, but the link is put in the link field
[21:29] <PaulW2U> No. I got awaiting approval message but nothing since.
[21:30] <pleia2> weird, it came to me and landed in the archives
[21:32] <pleia2> annoyingly, gmail eats posts you send to lists so you don't get copies, maybe your mail provider does similar?
[21:34] <PaulW2U> Possible, I'll have to take a closer look. Anyway, I never read UWN, doesn't seem to be much point :)
[21:34] <Unit193> I sware, the few times I don't get pinged, this happens: https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2015/02/index.en.htm 404'ing
[21:34] <pleia2> Unit193: doh
[21:35] <pleia2> PaulW2U: want to fix up that link in the wiki and in the forums post? should be https://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2015/02/index.en.html
[21:35] <pleia2> lost an l at the end there)
[21:35] <PaulW2U> ok
[21:38] <PaulW2U> done
[21:40] <pleia2> fridge, discourse and social media is all sorted
[21:41] <PaulW2U> Excellent! Thanks for that pleia2. Most enlightening.
[21:41] <pleia2> should go smoother next time :)
[21:42] <PaulW2U> At least I know there's nothing wrong with my Kubuntu :)