[13:26] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:27] <rick_h_> morning
[13:27] <cmaloney> How's the day so far?
[13:28] <rick_h_> alive and kicking
[13:28] <brousch> Hm, apparently nobody has wireless coverage at the Grand Canyon and Death Valley
[13:28] <brousch> This will be an interesting vacation
[13:28] <rick_h_> hmm, imagine that lol
[13:29] <cmaloney> brousch: I'm sure Verizon has you covered
[13:29] <rick_h_> speaking of wireless coverage, got to teach the wife an important phone lesson as her phone was lost/taken at a birthday party yesterday
[13:29] <cmaloney> with their "Death Valley plan"
[13:29] <rick_h_> let's just say she's running with a encrypted device with a pin enabled now
[13:29] <cmaloney> rick_h_: What the fuck?
[13:29] <cmaloney> Yeah, pin at least
[13:30] <cmaloney> Which is partly why I rock an older device. :)
[13:30] <rick_h_> yea, she complained that she'd have to unlock it in the car, but now that she's got BT in the car she doesn't
[13:30] <rick_h_> oh I bet hers was older than yours
[13:30] <rick_h_> it was an old moto mini
[13:30] <rick_h_> in a giant otterbox case
[13:30] <rick_h_> there was no reason to take it
[13:30] <cmaloney> Epic 4G Touch.
[13:30] <rick_h_> but as a doc she's got a ton of crap on there that makes me :(
[13:30] <cmaloney> Yeah, likely misplaced.
[13:30] <cmaloney> Oh noes.
[13:32] <cmaloney> I'm sure I know the answer, but did she have remote wipe installed?
[13:32] <cmaloney> or set up rather?
[13:33] <brousch> Google has remote location on almost every device now. You can find her phone
[13:33] <mrgoodcat> she shouldn't be using her phone in her car without BT anyways right? :P
[13:34] <brousch> https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager
[13:34] <mrgoodcat> actually in troy you can be given a ticket for using your phone in any way
[13:34] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, but she never enabled it
[13:34] <rick_h_> brousch: she actually made me enable the G+ location tracking on my end, but never did it on her end
[13:34] <brousch> Seems like it's on by default now
[13:34] <rick_h_> cmaloney: no remote wipe, though will be
[13:34] <cmaloney> Yes Officer I'm using my watch. :)
[13:35] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, but not on her old phone
[13:35] <rick_h_> it's getting setup differently this time :)
[13:35] <brousch> Darn
[13:35] <rick_h_> she's using my old motox for now
[13:36] <brousch> Maybe that's why they stole it ;)
[13:36] <rick_h_> lol
[13:36] <rick_h_> honestly we think it was just kids. Bunch of 3-6yr olds
[13:36] <brousch> Wat? no Ubu phone for her?!
[13:36] <rick_h_> hah, I don't have one of those
[13:37] <cmaloney> If it's 3-6 y/os it's probably half-way to the Detroit River.
[13:37] <cmaloney> "Water go down the hoooole"
[13:37] <rick_h_> yea, that was my 'joke' that I was told was not very funny
[13:38] <cmaloney> rick_h_: When you're not in "Freak-out" mode it's pretty funny
[13:38] <rick_h_> yea, I guess timing is most of comedy :P
[13:38] <cmaloney> heh
[13:38] <cmaloney> "too soon". ;)
[13:40] <brousch> Which is less evil these days: ATT or VZN?
[13:41] <rick_h_> hmm, tough call
[13:41] <rick_h_> the thing is that vzw works more places and is faster so I take their evil with my goodies
[13:41] <rick_h_> though my phone is on t-mo now
[13:41] <rick_h_> but keep my mifi on vzw so it always works
[13:41] <cmaloney> Yeah, I think it's more a question "who is more evil: Satan or beelzebub"
[13:42] <rick_h_> I will say, after I finally found a way to get a person on the phone last night
[13:42] <rick_h_> vzw support rocked it out of the park
[13:42] <rick_h_> taking a sim card from my mifi, moving her phone number over to that sim, and helping it get setup in my old motox all over the phone in about 15min
[13:42] <rick_h_> so from her phone going gone to her getting calls again was around 45min which was sweet
[13:43] <rick_h_> <3 sim cards
[13:43] <cmaloney> rick_h_: That is pretty cool
[13:43] <cmaloney> Yeah, no kidding
[14:03] <brousch> Is it a sign of old age if I complain about how all smartphones are gigantic these days?
[14:14] <jrwren> brousch: vzn is less evil, only because I'm a shareholder :p
[14:15] <jrwren> brousch: Credo is the ultimate in less evil.
[14:15] <brousch> I'm sure I'm a shareholder in both of them via my 401k
[14:15] <jrwren> brousch: its a sign of old age if you do complain about being able to read the disply or press the "buttons"
[14:33] <brousch> If I buy the same phones and same plans on ATT and VZW, they come out to a less than $50 difference after 2 years.
[14:37] <cmaloney> brousch: AT&T is pretty much evil incarnate
[14:37] <cmaloney> brousch: VZW is also evil incarnate but has a better network
[14:38] <cmaloney> so in your dealings with the devil I'd say VZW is offering a better deal for your souol
[14:38] <brousch> I love Ting, but Sprint's network is garbage incarnate
[14:38] <cmaloney> the only reason I'd go with AT&T is if you valie GSM
[14:38] <cmaloney> They have a GSM option, though it's in beta
[14:38] <brousch> Do I look like a Communist?!
[14:39] <cmaloney> brousch: https://ting.com/shop/gsmSIM
[14:41] <cmaloney> I think they've partnered with T-Mobile
[14:43] <cmaloney> They're not saying directly bu
[14:44] <jrwren> no Credo users?
[15:06] <cmaloney> What is Credo?
[15:07] <cmaloney> Only other MVNO that I'm aware of is Consumer Wireless (?) and that's because my parents got sucked into that.
[15:53] <jjesse> wow almost afternoon already
[16:07] <cmaloney> Yeah, where has the day gone
[16:08] <greg-g> just started
[16:08] <jjesse> nice
[16:09] <jjesse> i'm working with customers on both coasts this week :( so working EST and PST a bit
[16:09] <jjesse> going to be a long week
[16:09] <greg-g> well, I've been here since 8, but the budget meeting for next year just started.... weee (well, the second one we're having on the topic)
[16:11] <cmaloney> woo woo
[16:11] <cmaloney> Nothing like talking about wooden nickels
[16:12] <jrwren> jjesse: 12hr days shall be your norm!
[16:13] <jrwren> jjesse: hope you bill hourly :p
[16:13] <jjesse> jrwren:  yes i bill hourly but different customers
[16:13] <jrwren> jjesse: even better!
[17:31] <cscheib> greetings.  For those interested in Puppet config management, I've started a Detroit Puppet User Group.  Sorry to spam, just trying to get the word out and didn't make it to the last MUG meeting
[17:32] <cscheib> jrwren / jcastro: lunch this week?
[17:48] <jcastro> cscheib, oh cool, for sure, any day but Friday, also I sold my car so I need a ride lol
[17:49] <cmaloney> jcastro: That doesn't seem sustainable.
[17:49] <rick_h_> jcastro: no ride?
[17:49] <jcastro> I am currently inbetween cars is a better statement
[17:49] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[17:49] <rick_h_> do I know cscheib ?
[17:49] <jcastro> I mean, we have a car, it's just Jill's
[17:49] <jcastro> yeah
[17:49] <rick_h_> lol
[17:49] <cscheib> p.s. for the few that may remember me, I used to go by schweeb
[17:50] <rick_h_> aaaah
[17:50] <cmaloney> jcastro: That's your problem. You need to be in the car, not between them
[17:50] <jcastro> my lease was up
[17:50] <cmaloney> jcastro: And they let you out of the dealership without a new one?
[17:50] <cmaloney> tsk tsk
[17:50] <cmaloney> bad Salesman
[17:50] <cmaloney> 40 lashes.
[17:50] <jcastro> oh he wanted to sell me a new one
[17:50] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:50] <jcastro> but I am spending the money on the basement
[17:51] <jcastro> also, they don't have $5k miles/year leases, heh
[17:51] <cmaloney> yeah, I think you need a go-cart.
[17:51] <jcastro> I kind of want a moped, but winter
[17:51] <cmaloney> http://ezgo.com/
[17:52] <rick_h_> lol
[17:52] <cmaloney> http://ezgo.com/Home/Personal/Terrain.aspx
[17:52] <cmaloney> I think that might make it over a light dusting.
[17:52] <jcastro> the few times I do need a ride, Uber/Lyft are here
[17:53] <cscheib> jcastro: which # do you use these days?  I have one ending in 06 and one ending in 23
[17:53] <jcastro> 06
[17:54] <jcastro> I will probably get a Fiesta or Jetta or something in the summer
[17:54] <cmaloney> I have a Jetta
[17:55] <cmaloney> still have a jetta rather
[17:55] <cscheib> gf has a Jetta... get the Fiesta
[17:55] <cmaloney> !!!!
[17:55] <rick_h_> lol
[17:55] <jcastro> <3 jettas tho
[17:55] <cscheib> maint on teh Jettas is a fucking whore
[17:56] <cscheib> if you lease and don't go anywhere... whatever... but if you keep your vehicle...
[17:56] <cmaloney> cscheib: I'm under 40K miles so I hope you're experience is an anomaly.
[17:56] <rick_h_> yea, maint on anything like that sucks
[17:56] <rick_h_> but you do get some years free :)
[17:56] <cscheib> they wanted like $400 to replace spark plugs
[17:56] <rick_h_> yea, once the warranty is done go elsewhere.
[17:57] <cmaloney> As long as the transmission doesn't fall off like every single Ford vehicle I've owned... ;)
[17:57] <cscheib> my Lincolns have been smooth sailing... but, I only keep em util 100k mi
[17:58] <greg-g> newb
[17:58] <jcastro> My Ford Ranger was a best
[17:58] <greg-g> I looooooved my ranger
[17:58] <jcastro> 125k+ and all I did was put fluids in it
[17:58]  * rick_h_ hated his ranger
[17:58] <greg-g> so sad I hit that deer going 75
[17:58] <jcastro> then like all small trucks went extinct at once
[17:58] <rick_h_> hah, they're coming back
[17:58] <greg-g> I kinda want a Nissan Frontier 4-door
[17:59] <rick_h_> someone was even saying the canyon's are coming with out inline 4 and 5cyl diesel options soon
[17:59] <greg-g> small truck with 4-doors is awesome
[18:00] <jcastro> the canyon isn't small tho
[18:00] <rick_h_> big truck with 4 door is awesome :)
[18:00] <rick_h_> it's smaller than a 1500
[18:00] <rick_h_> that is today's 'small truck'
[18:00] <rick_h_> all the things are so huge now
[18:00] <jcastro> yeah, like I am saying, small trucks went extinct
[18:01] <jcastro> which is sad, I kind of want a ranger
[18:01] <rick_h_> ugh, hated that thing so much. it couldn't get down a dirt road without getting redirected by every pebble
[18:01] <cscheib> I think they may be coming out with a new Jeep Comanche
[18:01] <greg-g> what year?
[18:02] <jcastro> I live in civilization, where paved roads are a thing
[18:02] <rick_h_> greg-g: this was a 90s era...98 or 99?
[18:02] <rick_h_> jcastro: :P
[18:02] <greg-g> rick_h_: same as mine, I thought it was a fun drive
[18:03] <rick_h_> greg-g: I turned in that lease and got the outback and thenfell in love
[18:03]  * greg-g nods
[18:03] <rick_h_> greg-g: so to me that's the thing that got me into something really nice
[23:01] <gamerchick02> howdy ubuntu peeps