| Kilos | morning all | 05:28 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi barrydk | 05:45 |
| barrydk | More Kilos en almal | 05:46 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:09 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 06:09 |
| Padroni | morning | 06:12 |
| Kilos | hi Padroni | 06:12 |
| Padroni | hi | 06:12 |
| Padroni | how are you? | 06:13 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 06:13 |
| Padroni | I'm good | 06:15 |
| magespawn | good morning | 06:37 |
| Maaz | magespawn: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell magespawn there is no ant-malware that will help for someone like tannie malware" 1 day, 12 hours, 18 minutes and 44 seconds ago | 06:37 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 06:37 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:37 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 06:38 |
| magespawn | that is a truth | 06:38 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:52 |
| magespawn | hi inetpro | 06:53 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 06:55 |
| Symmetria | anyone here who can comment someone who wants a contract to do security auditing on linux boxes and who knows what the hell they are doing | 07:03 |
| magespawn | Symmetria: i would love to do it, but i would be completly out of my depth | 07:07 |
| Kilos | hi TinuvaMac | 07:29 |
| TinuvaMac | morning Kilos | 07:29 |
| Kilos | hi Rynomster | 07:34 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 07:42 |
| Squirm | morning | 07:46 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 07:46 |
| Padroni | why so quiet? | 08:26 |
| Kilos | been outside digging in storeroom | 08:35 |
| Padroni | hi Kerbero | 08:44 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:46 |
| Kilos | ha you the hopper today Padroni_ | 08:48 |
| Padroni_ | lol | 08:48 |
| === Padroni_ is now known as Padroni | ||
| lin_ | Hello guys. | 09:01 |
| Kilos | hi lin | 09:01 |
| lin_ | All good, kilos | 09:01 |
| lin_ | All good | 09:01 |
| Kilos | good | 09:01 |
| lin_ | So I figure you live in SA, right, Kilos ? | 09:01 |
| lin_ | We might meet soon. | 09:02 |
| lin_ | Will be coming there for flight training | 09:02 |
| Kilos | thats right near pretoria and you ? | 09:02 |
| lin_ | I'm in Kenya for now.. | 09:02 |
| lin_ | But when I come.. | 09:02 |
| lin_ | It'll be at Cape Town... | 09:02 |
| Kilos | aha thats not far from here | 09:03 |
| Kilos | about 1000ks | 09:03 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:03 |
| lin_ | Some braai shortens the distance, | 09:03 |
| lin_ | lol | 09:03 |
| Kilos | hey lin if you in kenya you should also join the africa channel | 09:03 |
| lin_ | Cool | 09:03 |
| Kilos | #ubuntu-africa | 09:04 |
| lin_ | Thanks for the reminder. | 09:04 |
| lin_ | I had lost the previous config for the xchat client | 09:04 |
| Kilos | im trying to pull the ubuntu users out of nairobilug | 09:04 |
| Kilos | aha | 09:04 |
| Kilos | actually they can still be with the lug but with the buntu peeps as well | 09:05 |
| lin_ | meh | 09:05 |
| lin_ | Not that I'm an ubuntu fan but..I like the guys. | 09:05 |
| lin_ | The community | 09:05 |
| Kilos | oh yes we are the best | 09:05 |
| Kilos | you are welcome here by us | 09:06 |
| Kilos | what system do you use? | 09:06 |
| lin_ | Arch Linux | 09:06 |
| lin_ | On all systems | 09:06 |
| Kilos | whew you one of the clever guys | 09:06 |
| lin_ | meh | 09:08 |
| lin_ | I like rolling releases | 09:08 |
| Kilos | i use kubuntu so i dont have to think much | 09:08 |
| lin_ | I also like gentoo | 09:08 |
| lin_ | A lot | 09:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:08 |
| lin_ | But of late, haven't used it much | 09:08 |
| lin_ | Arch is faster to set up compared to gentoo | 09:08 |
| Kilos | kde just works | 09:09 |
| lin_ | lolzzzz | 09:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:09 |
| lin_ | Consuming a junkload of RAM in the process. | 09:09 |
| Kilos | not too bad | 09:09 |
| lin_ | I like the way it handles multiple monitors though | 09:10 |
| lin_ | Painless setup/ | 09:10 |
| lin_ | Can't say the same with xfce | 09:10 |
| Kilos | im running it on a dual core with 4g ram | 09:10 |
| lin_ | I'm a minimalist though | 09:10 |
| lin_ | What are your full specs? | 09:10 |
| Kilos | ya but you have to think more | 09:10 |
| lin_ | lol | 09:10 |
| Kilos | 3g dual core with 4g ddr3 | 09:11 |
| lin_ | 3g...umm... | 09:11 |
| lin_ | You lost me there.. | 09:11 |
| Kilos | 3 gig | 09:11 |
| lin_ | oh | 09:11 |
| lin_ | I have 32 GB of RAM | 09:11 |
| Kilos | whew | 09:12 |
| lin_ | An Intel Core i7 4700HQ | 09:12 |
| Kilos | lovelly | 09:12 |
| lin_ | 4 cores. 8 threads | 09:12 |
| lin_ | NVIDIA GTX 980M SLI | 09:12 |
| lin_ | 3 1 TB M.2 SSDs configured in RAID 0 | 09:12 |
| Kilos | whew when you fly over here to capetown drop it out over pretoria | 09:13 |
| Kilos | ill catch | 09:13 |
| lin_ | And another 2 TB for storage | 09:13 |
| Kilos | wow | 09:13 |
| lin_ | I use this rig for gaming + video editing | 09:13 |
| Kilos | cool | 09:13 |
| lin_ | And compiling Android ROMs + ChromiumOS | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i could most likely take off with something like that | 09:14 |
| lin_ | These projects require a shitload of RAM | 09:14 |
| Kilos | i wouldnt have thought anything couls slow that setup down much | 09:15 |
| Kilos | could | 09:15 |
| lin_ | There are things that bring it to a halt | 09:16 |
| lin_ | Like the Meson build system | 09:16 |
| lin_ | And building Android | 09:16 |
| Kilos | wow | 09:16 |
| lin_ | breakfast find5-userdebug && mka | 09:17 |
| Kilos | only building i do is block on block in minetest | 09:17 |
| lin_ | lol | 09:17 |
| lin_ | lol | 09:17 |
| lin_ | lolzzzzzzz | 09:17 |
| Kilos | when you are bored get some more guys to join #ubuntu-africa | 09:20 |
| lin_ | I will | 09:20 |
| Kilos | and search out all the ubuntu users in your area if possible | 09:21 |
| lin_ | hehehe | 09:21 |
| lin_ | nice | 09:21 |
| Kilos | you arch guys suppress them i think | 09:21 |
| lin_ | nope | 09:21 |
| Kilos | lol ty | 09:21 |
| lin_ | Probably not | 09:21 |
| lin_ | most of the guys I know run some variant of Ubuntu and Fedora | 09:21 |
| Kilos | oh and also if you know of any in other countries in africa invite them too please | 09:22 |
| lin_ | ;-0 | 09:22 |
| lin_ | ;-) | 09:22 |
| Kilos | hi magellanic | 09:26 |
| magellanic | greets | 09:26 |
| Padroni | hi | 09:35 |
| Kilos | lin_ are you coming here for pilot training or just to have wings glued on to you | 09:41 |
| lin_ | Pilot training. | 09:46 |
| lin_ | lol | 09:46 |
| Kilos | cool | 09:46 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos | 10:54 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 10:54 |
| Langjan | hoesit | 10:54 |
| Kilos | good ty and you | 10:54 |
| Kilos | gimme one minute | 10:55 |
| Langjan | well thks | 10:55 |
| Langjan | yu got two | 10:55 |
| Padroni | hi Langjan | 10:55 |
| Langjan | Hi Padroni, you OK? | 10:56 |
| Kilos | lol my eyes were floating | 10:56 |
| Padroni | I/m good thanx | 10:56 |
| Kilos | ok Langjan is it still hanging? | 10:57 |
| Langjan | It plays around like liquorice allsorts | 10:57 |
| Langjan | sometime hangs and gets up again other tmes it has to be powered off | 10:58 |
| Kilos | does it only do it when you have certain things running | 10:58 |
| Langjan | then screen goes blank, have to rebot to get icons back on screen | 10:58 |
| Kilos | ok have you got an error message for us | 10:58 |
| Langjan | no discernible pattern re apps | 10:58 |
| Langjan | I got long error messages this morning, could not get them down before it shut down again | 10:59 |
| Kilos | inetpro ping | 10:59 |
| Kilos | hopefully he knows how to find it | 11:00 |
| Kilos | Padroni ideas, lappy hanging at odd times | 11:00 |
| Padroni | could be any of a numbe of things | 11:01 |
| Padroni | Since it is a laptop, I would look at overheating first | 11:01 |
| Kilos | Langjan are you on it now | 11:01 |
| Langjan | Yes, the fan seems to come on and go off | 11:01 |
| Padroni | get a system monitor app and monitor the temperature | 11:01 |
| Padroni | It could also be faulty RAM | 11:02 |
| Padroni | where the alptop will work fine as long as the RAM usage is under a certain threshold, and the second it goes over that and hits a bad spot, it hangs | 11:02 |
| Langjan | RAM was 700Mb, upgraded to 1,7Gb (don't know where the 0,7 comes from) | 11:02 |
| Padroni | yeah that don't make sense | 11:03 |
| Padroni | Could be reporting an odd amount due to some of it being used as video memory though | 11:03 |
| Padroni | how many sticks of ram you got in that laptop? | 11:03 |
| Langjan | OK let me try to get the temp monitor going | 11:04 |
| Padroni | hang on | 11:04 |
| Langjan | two sticks | 11:04 |
| Padroni | ok | 11:04 |
| Padroni | shut down | 11:04 |
| Padroni | remove the new one, and leave only the oldest one | 11:04 |
| Padroni | test the laptop | 11:04 |
| Padroni | then do the same with the new one | 11:04 |
| Padroni | if it hangs on the one and not the other, you know you got a bad stick in the equation | 11:04 |
| Padroni | replace it then | 11:04 |
| Langjan | OK thks awill try that | 11:05 |
| Kilos | Padroni he is my oom | 11:05 |
| Langjan | Ja nefie | 11:06 |
| Padroni | ah ok | 11:06 |
| Padroni | you can also run the memory test from Grub menu when you boot up | 11:06 |
| Kilos | not often there is someone here older than me hehe | 11:06 |
| Padroni | if memory test hangs you know you got bad RAM | 11:06 |
| Langjan | How do I do that? Remember Miles calls me oompie | 11:07 |
| Kilos | isnt there a command that will find the error message | 11:07 |
| Kilos | like tail /var/log/syslog | 11:07 |
| Kilos | oh | 11:07 |
| Kilos | when you boot do you see the grub menu Langjan | 11:08 |
| Langjan | Do I run that comand in the terminal? You say when I boot up... | 11:08 |
| Padroni | no dude | 11:08 |
| Padroni | when you boot up, you get a menu which gives you a choice of booting linux or running a memory test | 11:09 |
| Kilos | im thinking of when it hangs a while then goes again | 11:09 |
| Padroni | that is the test we are referring to | 11:09 |
| Padroni | could be memory usage comes down or gets written to swap space ? | 11:10 |
| Langjan | There is no such option that shows when I boot up | 11:10 |
| Langjan | Now it restarted with the launcher in the middle of the screen and showing two half screens. As I said, liquorice allsorts | 11:12 |
| Kilos | ok so we need to make it show the grub menu to start with Padroni | 11:12 |
| Kilos | Langjan http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time | 11:13 |
| Langjan | Maybe I should do the test of RAM sticks first? | 11:13 |
| Kilos | ya do that | 11:13 |
| Kilos | one step at a time hey | 11:13 |
| Langjan | Restarted again, screen back to normal | 11:14 |
| Langjan | OK will do and get back some time | 11:14 |
| Kilos | ok good luck | 11:14 |
| Langjan | thks | 11:14 |
| Kilos | Langjan | 11:15 |
| Kilos | maybe it is the old ram if the last owner was complaining about same prob | 11:15 |
| Langjan | OK will try with the new one only first | 11:15 |
| Langjan | Good point | 11:16 |
| Langjan | Also suspicious with 700Mb... | 11:16 |
| Kilos | ya something not right there | 11:17 |
| Kilos | what was in it and what did you add | 11:17 |
| Kilos | 512m each? | 11:17 |
| Langjan | Kilos the original stick is 1Gb, in the machine it showed 700Mb, I added 1Gb and it showed 1,7Gb. | 11:31 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:31 |
| Langjan | Now I removed the old one and put the new 1GB in the bottom slot, it shows 746Mb, so it seems the slot is not picking up all the memory... | 11:32 |
| Kilos | i dont know lappies at all. what happens if you put it in the second slot | 11:33 |
| Kilos | or must the primary slot be used first | 11:33 |
| Padroni | 1Gb RAM would loose only 64Mb to video memory | 11:33 |
| Padroni | by default | 11:33 |
| Padroni | so it can't be that | 11:33 |
| * Squirm looks around | 11:40 | |
| Squirm | 'lo | 11:40 |
| Kilos | lo Squirm | 11:40 |
| Langjan | I noticed that the battery was loose on one side when I removed it, however, that would not have affected the RAM pickup but could possibly have contributed to the messing around? | 11:42 |
| Kilos | sjo | 11:42 |
| Langjan | It picks up 746Mb of RAM from both 1GB sticks in both slots | 11:52 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 11:52 |
| Kilos | try run it with the new one and see if it hangs | 11:53 |
| Langjan | Then it picks up 1,7Gb with both sticks. So 746 plus 746 adds up to 1700 - does not make sense. I will try just the one Kilos, but its very sluggish then. | 11:58 |
| Kilos | ya but lets find if we can get it stable first | 11:58 |
| Langjan | OK guys, many thanks for now, I have to run. Will let you know what is happening. | 11:59 |
| Kilos | ty Padroni | 12:00 |
| Padroni | ok | 12:03 |
| Kilos | hi Mopkop | 12:59 |
| Mopkop | Hello again! | 12:59 |
| Kilos | oh my | 12:59 |
| Kilos | wb Padroni | 12:59 |
| Kilos | of both of you | 13:00 |
| Kilos | hi kulelu88 | 13:00 |
| Mopkop | Hello Padroni, kulelu88! | 13:00 |
| kulelu88 | Hi | 13:00 |
| Mopkop | So I started learning Python... | 13:00 |
| kulelu88 | Python <3 | 13:01 |
| Kilos | good | 13:02 |
| Kilos | oh my they both died | 13:03 |
| Kilos | hi andrewlsd | 13:52 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos, Hi all. | 13:52 |
| === andrewlsd is now known as zerlgi | ||
| * zerlgi lolz as nick goes from top to bottom of list. | 13:53 | |
| zerlgi | (almost top) | 13:53 |
| Kilos | zerlgi wb lad | 13:54 |
| zerlgi | ty, Kilos. | 13:54 |
| Kilos | see how many we are here | 13:58 |
| Kilos | at last we are growing | 13:59 |
| kulelu88 | if this group hits 200 before 2015 ends, I will eat my shoe | 14:02 |
| Kilos | nono man 200 is too much | 14:03 |
| Kilos | 50 is good | 14:03 |
| * zerlgi calls renta-IRC-crowd so that we can watch kulelu88 eat his shoe ;-) | 14:04 | |
| Kilos | hahaha | 14:04 |
| * kulelu88 thinks zerlgi is part of modern political organization that rents crowds :D | 14:07 | |
| Kilos | lol | 14:08 |
| zerlgi | kulelu88 +1 | 14:10 |
| magellanic | heya zerlgi | 14:23 |
| zerlgi | heyz magellanic | 14:26 |
| Squirm | Hmm | 14:52 |
| Squirm | We upgraded our internet | 14:52 |
| Squirm | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4218249529 | 14:52 |
| kulelu88 | dahell? upload speed is double? | 14:56 |
| Kilos | wow | 14:57 |
| === kulelu88 is now known as kulelu88_away | ||
| Kilos | wb Padroni | 15:15 |
| Padroni | ty | 15:16 |
| Padroni | Shift #2 now | 15:16 |
| * Padroni sighs | 15:16 | |
| Kilos | sjoe | 15:16 |
| Squirm | kulelu88_away: I think they're equal, but download is always being used in this company | 15:17 |
| Kilos- | sorry, was testing a whizzy thing | 15:45 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| Squirm | Home | 15:56 |
| === kulelu88_away is now known as kulelu88 | ||
| kulelu88 | it must be 40MBs VDSL or maybe even fibre | 16:09 |
| inetpro | Squirm: have you seen this?: http://xmodulo.com/check-internet-speed-command-line-linux.html | 16:16 |
| inetpro | much nicer to test on the cli | 16:16 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 16:26 |
| Padroni | anyone seen the series Vikings? | 16:35 |
| Squirm | kulelu88: we have fibre | 16:36 |
| Squirm | Thanks inetpro, will have a look | 16:37 |
| Kilos | works well | 16:37 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 16:39 |
| Kilos | better than using a browser | 16:39 |
| Padroni | guess not | 16:44 |
| Kilos | ive just seen it advertised | 16:44 |
| Kilos | wb Langjan whats news | 16:45 |
| kulelu88 | Padroni: I watched 1 episode. not too great | 16:45 |
| kulelu88 | almal op ubuntu-za is clients van axxess :D | 16:45 |
| Padroni | You never judge a series based on 1 episode | 16:45 |
| Padroni | you have to watch at least 3 | 16:46 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 ? | 16:46 |
| kulelu88 | Padroni: It's kind of like a budget version of Game of thrones | 16:46 |
| kulelu88 | Kilos: a lot of the people are Axxess clients :-/ | 16:46 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:46 |
| Langjan | Hi Kilos, I have fitted my laptop's 2GBRam, no change. Everything goes haywire, the desktop loses all icons and menus, shows peculiar windows, freezes. | 16:47 |
| Kilos | from scratch or once warmed up? | 16:47 |
| Langjan | One pattern seems to be emerging, the total loss of all on the desktop except for the picture | 16:48 |
| Langjan | From scratch | 16:48 |
| Langjan | It still picks up only 1,7Gb of RAM via 2x1Gb. | 16:49 |
| Kilos | how clean are all the connections where the ram goes in | 16:50 |
| Padroni | that won't matter | 16:50 |
| Kilos | another idea | 16:50 |
| Padroni | RAM will either work or it will not | 16:50 |
| Kilos | boot from dvd and see if it does the same thing | 16:50 |
| Kilos | run kive from dvd | 16:51 |
| Kilos | live | 16:51 |
| Padroni | Did you test the memory Langjan | 16:51 |
| Langjan | Padroni, grub menu does not appear so no test option on startup | 16:54 |
| === Webtricity is now known as Guest23440 | ||
| Langjan | 'scuse me guys, just having dinner with my lady | 16:56 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 16:56 |
| Padroni | the boot up with a live cd and memtest from there | 16:56 |
| Padroni | we told you this earlier already? | 16:56 |
| Kilos | he may forget things | 16:57 |
| Kilos | i think he is 10 years older than me | 16:57 |
| Kilos | i go eat also as well too | 16:59 |
| Kilos | i might go off for a while | 17:30 |
| Langjan | Padroni I'm running on live CD, is it the system test that you want me to do? | 17:40 |
| Padroni | memory test | 17:41 |
| Langjan | where do I do memory test? | 17:45 |
| Kilos- | hmm... | 17:48 |
| Langjan | while running system test manager booted on live CD the system froze again | 17:51 |
| Squirm | in the livecd boot menu, select memtest | 17:52 |
| Kilos- | oh my | 17:52 |
| Langjan | excuse my idiocy but I have never seen memtest selection in live boot menu, where do I find live boot menu? | 17:53 |
| Squirm | gnight all | 17:54 |
| Langjan | Its frozen again must I power off and reboot on CD? | 17:54 |
| Squirm | ah, but you don't see the grub menu | 17:54 |
| Langjan | gnight squirm | 17:54 |
| Kilos- | night Squirm | 17:54 |
| Squirm | memtest in in the grub menu, as Padroni mentioned | 17:55 |
| Squirm | gone | 17:55 |
| Squirm | *gone | 17:55 |
| Langjan | no grub menu on normal boot nor on live CD boot | 17:55 |
| Kilos- | yes jan boot from dvd and then choose memtest | 17:55 |
| Langjan | where do I find memtest Kilos? | 17:55 |
| Kilos- | you um | 17:56 |
| Langjan | um | 17:56 |
| Langjan | ? | 17:56 |
| Kilos- | where it asks to install or run live there should be memtest there as well | 17:56 |
| Langjan | never seen that, but getting there, will check | 17:56 |
| Kilos- | ive been off unity for so long now i forget some stuffs | 17:57 |
| Kilos- | about a year on kde only | 17:57 |
| Kilos- | oh somewhere it says disk check but that checks the dvd | 17:58 |
| Kilos- | i have a 10.04 cd here let me boot other pc on it | 17:59 |
| Langjan | options are try, install or read release notes | 18:01 |
| Kilos- | ai! | 18:01 |
| Kilos- | somewhere used to be a mamtest | 18:02 |
| Kilos- | memtest too | 18:02 |
| Langjan | no mam or memtest here that I can see... | 18:03 |
| Kilos- | lol | 18:03 |
| Langjan | haha | 18:03 |
| Kilos- | ai! other pc so slow | 18:03 |
| Langjan | I tried to install psensor to check temps, but it froze halfway... | 18:05 |
| Kilos- | while you are online try http://askubuntu.com/questions/489862/how-to-install-boot-repair-tool-in-ubuntu-14-04-live | 18:06 |
| Kilos- | lets see if we can at least get it booting | 18:06 |
| Kilos- | my 10.04 didnt show memtest either | 18:07 |
| Kilos- | someone stole it | 18:08 |
| Kilos- | trying the install route now | 18:09 |
| magespawn | good evening | 18:10 |
| Kilos- | hi magespawn | 18:10 |
| magespawn | hey K | 18:10 |
| magespawn | Kilos-: too | 18:10 |
| Kilos- | lol | 18:10 |
| magespawn | inetpro thanks for that speedtest-cli link | 18:11 |
| Kilos- | was just gonna say wow you are really getting lazy | 18:11 |
| magespawn | efficient | 18:11 |
| Kilos- | works lekker hey | 18:11 |
| Kilos- | the pro has his moments | 18:11 |
| Langjan | its booting ok | 18:11 |
| Langjan | Im into the system monitor if that can help? | 18:12 |
| Kilos- | has it booted | 18:12 |
| Langjan | cpu running at 60% | 18:12 |
| Kilos- | wow | 18:12 |
| Langjan | yes it boots ok | 18:12 |
| Langjan | never had a problem with booting, the only way to get it goinh asfter freeze is to reboot | 18:13 |
| Kilos- | did you get it with the ssd in? | 18:13 |
| Langjan | memory running at about 40% | 18:14 |
| Langjan | ssd? | 18:14 |
| Kilos- | oh isnt that the one with the solid state drive in? | 18:14 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:14 |
| inetpro | Langjan: As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen: | 18:15 |
| Kilos- | hi inetpro | 18:15 |
| Langjan | no ssd that I know about, no its my machine that has the ssd, the one I'm chatting on | 18:15 |
| * Kilos- lets mr fixit take over | 18:15 | |
| inetpro | Test memory: 1. Initiates a Memtest86+ test. 2. Pressing ESC terminates the test. | 18:15 |
| Langjan | ok must I reboot again to get to the advanced page? | 18:16 |
| * inetpro reading from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions | 18:16 | |
| Langjan | OK into test memory | 18:17 |
| Kilos- | it takes long | 18:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 18:19 |
| Kilos- | ty inetpro | 18:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: btw, please fix your funny tail! | 18:19 |
| Kilos- | oops sorry | 18:19 |
| Kilos- | darem nie n sleep stert nie | 18:19 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:20 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| inetpro | dankie tog | 18:20 |
| * inetpro recognises the face now | 18:20 | |
| Kilos | lol small things bug you hey | 18:20 |
| inetpro | why you say I ignore you? | 18:20 |
| Kilos | ya the one you ignore most of the time | 18:20 |
| * inetpro has a life | 18:20 | |
| Kilos | yaya man | 18:21 |
| Langjan | lots happening here Ive never seen... | 18:21 |
| Kilos | but you have many tools to go online with | 18:21 |
| Langjan | line 1 pass 9% | 18:21 |
| Kilos | you are supposed to be here everyday Langjan | 18:21 |
| Langjan | line 2 test 21% | 18:21 |
| Kilos | mailing lists are so slow to get help | 18:22 |
| Kilos | it takes forever | 18:22 |
| Langjan | Im referring to this rogue laptops screen | 18:22 |
| Langjan | ok take your point Kilos | 18:22 |
| Kilos | oh not memtest | 18:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:23 |
| Kilos | im too cheeky hey | 18:23 |
| Kilos | just wait till i get my fibre reinforced sjambok | 18:23 |
| Langjan | yes memtest on the screen | 18:23 |
| Kilos | you have missed lots ballie | 18:24 |
| Langjan | wait till you see my AWB beard | 18:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:24 |
| Langjan | dan hol jy sambok en al | 18:24 |
| Langjan | lmga | 18:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:24 |
| Langjan | turning 72 next week, hoe oud is jy seuntjie? | 18:25 |
| Kilos | 64 in 3 months | 18:25 |
| Langjan | dra jy nog doeke? | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 18:26 |
| * inetpro sometimes has to cut the chains to prevent being sucked into in the big black IAD hole | 18:26 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: ^^ | 18:26 |
| Langjan | ek dra hulle weer... | 18:26 |
| Kilos | ja man size pampers | 18:26 |
| Kilos | inetpro what kinda hole? | 18:26 |
| inetpro | Internet Addiction Disorder | 18:27 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:27 |
| Kilos | i got that i think | 18:27 |
| Kilos | days are long when the power is off | 18:27 |
| Langjan | I see theres a technology detox facility these days | 18:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:28 |
| Kilos | 4lb hammer to the skull | 18:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: so will you be attending the meeting? | 18:29 |
| Langjan | digital detox: http://digitaldetox.org/camp-grounded/ | 18:29 |
| Kilos | what meeting inetpro ? | 18:30 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:30 |
| inetpro | your memory that short? | 18:30 |
| Kilos | i have too much happening here | 18:30 |
| inetpro | Langjan: please fix his memory as well! | 18:30 |
| inetpro | while you're at it | 18:30 |
| Kilos | trying to sort sisters 3g modem that she broke a sim card in | 18:31 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 18:31 |
| Kilos | oh that | 18:31 |
| Langjan | No cure for that problem | 18:31 |
| Kilos | i started reading | 18:31 |
| Kilos | The next meeting is scheduled for 19th March and will be held in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.ubuntu.com. | 18:32 |
| Kilos | that one | 18:32 |
| Kilos | i dont have that irc connection | 18:32 |
| Kilos | does freenode go to the same place | 18:32 |
| Langjan | What should this memtest reveal? | 18:33 |
| Kilos | it will tell you if ram is faulty | 18:33 |
| Kilos | tells you how many errors | 18:33 |
| Langjan | OK but I have replaced the RAM with that from my own laptop | 18:33 |
| inetpro | Maaz: when is 2015-03-19 17:00 GMT in SAST | 18:34 |
| Maaz | inetpro: 2015-03-19 17:00:00 GMT is 2015-03-19 19:00:00 SAST | 18:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: ^^ | 18:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes | 18:34 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:35 |
| inetpro | irc.ubuntu.com canonical name = chat.freenode.net | 18:35 |
| Kilos | oh yay | 18:36 |
| Kilos | are you attending inetpro ? | 18:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: uh | 18:36 |
| Kilos | Maaz uh | 18:36 |
| Maaz | Kilos: just forget mentioning it | 18:36 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:36 |
| Langjan | Kilos is there any point for memtest, considering that I have inserted RAM from my machine? | 18:37 |
| Kilos | not if its your good ram Langjan | 18:37 |
| Langjan | well I have never had a problem | 18:37 |
| Kilos | then its some other hardware prob | 18:37 |
| Langjan | thats what I think | 18:37 |
| Kilos | that leaves cpu and drive | 18:38 |
| Kilos | but its going fine now | 18:38 |
| Langjan | what does that mean? | 18:38 |
| inetpro | Langjan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memtest86 | 18:38 |
| Langjan | it was freezing while booted on CD | 18:38 |
| Kilos | was freezing | 18:39 |
| Kilos | now with your ram in? | 18:39 |
| Langjan | yes | 18:39 |
| Kilos | still freezing? | 18:40 |
| Kilos | so its drive or cpu | 18:40 |
| Langjan | is there a way to find out which? | 18:40 |
| inetpro | it froze while doing a memtest? | 18:40 |
| Langjan | no, before that when it was running on ubuntu | 18:41 |
| Langjan | I was doing system test when it froze | 18:42 |
| inetpro | Langjan: disconnect the HDD and try again | 18:42 |
| Kilos | but that cpu and memory usage was high | 18:42 |
| Langjan | disconnect hard drive and boot on CD? | 18:43 |
| inetpro | Langjan: yes | 18:43 |
| Langjan | then do system test or what? | 18:43 |
| inetpro | unfortunately you can't diconnect the CPU and try again | 18:43 |
| inetpro | the HDD is not needed for a boot from CD | 18:43 |
| Langjan | OK so if it runs fine on cd with no hdd it indicates bad hdd, if not it indicates bad cpu? | 18:44 |
| Kilos | oh my inetpro membership board meeting on the 19th | 18:46 |
| inetpro | Langjan: not necesarily | 18:46 |
| Langjan | OK Inetpro, will do - taking one step at a time. | 18:47 |
| inetpro | just keep using the process of elimination | 18:47 |
| Kilos | cant be so quick when the cutoff for applications is the 29th | 18:47 |
| magespawn | inetpro: kind of ironic that they advertise a camp like that on the internet | 18:48 |
| inetpro | magespawn: camp? | 18:48 |
| magespawn | sorry, was Langjan who brought it up | 18:49 |
| magespawn | http://digitaldetox.org/camp-grounded/ | 18:49 |
| inetpro | ah | 18:49 |
| inetpro | Langjan: it could also be a overheating CPU | 18:51 |
| inetpro | have you cleaned the dust? | 18:51 |
| Kilos | inetpro membership candidates looks good | 18:51 |
| Kilos | Starting 2008-04-15, membership applications will be handled by regional teams, delegated by the Community Council | 18:52 |
| Kilos | so i get to question you | 18:52 |
| Kilos | hee hee | 18:52 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 18:52 |
| Kilos | we can rib the pro | 18:53 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 18:53 |
| * inetpro shall have to get him fired first | 18:54 | |
| superfly | Kilos: no, I don't think so. that says "starting 2008" | 18:54 |
| inetpro | lol | 18:54 |
| Kilos | aw | 18:54 |
| * Kilos cries | 18:54 | |
| Kilos | was looking forward to riding his nerves a bit | 18:54 |
| * inetpro has no nerves to ride | 18:56 | |
| Kilos | yaya | 18:56 |
| Kilos | magespawn what have you done about applying for membership | 18:57 |
| Kilos | 2008 is too far away | 18:57 |
| Langjan | Inetpro, there was hardly any discernible dust. Now booting on cd with hdd disconnected | 19:07 |
| kulelu88 | mondays are always kak | 19:19 |
| magespawn | Kilos: not much | 19:20 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:20 |
| magespawn | 2008 too far away? | 19:20 |
| Langjan | OK Inetro and kilos, I'm running system monitor on live cd again, cpu stsrted on 80%, now running on 60%, memory on 28% | 19:20 |
| magespawn | right | 19:20 |
| kulelu88 | Langjan: old machine?? | 19:20 |
| Kilos | ill be too old then magespawn | 19:21 |
| Langjan | its a proline w76s, probably about 5 years | 19:22 |
| Langjan | came with windows 7 | 19:22 |
| magespawn | Kilos: i am sorry, am i missing something? | 19:24 |
| Kilos | um | 19:24 |
| kulelu88 | not too old. about 4GB DDR3 ram? | 19:24 |
| Kilos | oh ya you cant wait till 2008 when the decision for ubuntu membership will be decided by the loco | 19:24 |
| Kilos | if i read it right | 19:25 |
| magespawn | 2008? | 19:25 |
| Langjan | No it is on 2Gb which is, I think, the max it can take | 19:25 |
| Kilos | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 19:25 |
| kulelu88 | I don't get how 2008 is too far away?? | 19:25 |
| Kilos | you arent 63 kulelu88 | 19:25 |
| Kilos | many of my school mates are already in the happy hunting grounds | 19:26 |
| kulelu88 | dead already? 63 is young though | 19:27 |
| kulelu88 | unless they had those wives ... you know ... | 19:27 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:27 |
| Langjan | Inetpro, Kilos, it seems to be running fine on CD with hdd disconnected | 19:29 |
| inetpro | Langjan: interesting | 19:29 |
| Kilos | Life expectancy in South Africa rises to 60 | 19:29 |
| Kilos | unhappy drive it seems then Langjan | 19:29 |
| kulelu88 | oom I don't think you fit into the average. | 19:29 |
| Kilos | let it run more | 19:29 |
| inetpro | Kilos: btw, watch out for speedtest | 19:29 |
| kulelu88 | you've got at least 15 more years :D | 19:30 |
| Kilos | kulelu88 ive already been dead so i cheat | 19:30 |
| kulelu88 | Langjan: try connecting the HDD to another machine to test it | 19:30 |
| Kilos | why inetpro | 19:30 |
| kulelu88 | you died oom? | 19:30 |
| Kilos | ya | 19:30 |
| Kilos | 98 already | 19:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: looks like every time you run it you effectively download a file of size bigger than 50MB | 19:30 |
| Kilos | had a reboot | 19:30 |
| kulelu88 | how you died? | 19:30 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:31 |
| Kilos | windmill shaft uncoupled and bust my head open | 19:31 |
| kulelu88 | heh :O | 19:32 |
| Langjan | why do you guys call a windpump a windmill? | 19:32 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:32 |
| kulelu88 | oom I hope that is not the reason you have no more hair :-/ | 19:32 |
| Kilos | windmill was a used word before afrikaans was invented | 19:32 |
| kulelu88 | :D | 19:33 |
| Kilos | i still have more hair the=an my 40 year old son | 19:33 |
| kulelu88 | :'D | 19:33 |
| magespawn | nah kulelu88 that is just age, and hair cut | 19:33 |
| Langjan | no windmills in SA that I know of | 19:33 |
| kulelu88 | oom you had kids young also. | 19:33 |
| kulelu88 | different generation completely | 19:33 |
| Kilos | i just save money by cutting it myself with a w3ahl | 19:33 |
| Langjan | so what did the british mill with the wind? | 19:33 |
| Kilos | 25 for ian ya | 19:34 |
| kulelu88 | Langjan: bly jy in die hart van Pretoria? | 19:34 |
| Kilos | wheat Langjan | 19:34 |
| Langjan | nee in die hart van Warmbad | 19:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:34 |
| Langjan | waar staan daai windmeul Kilos? | 19:34 |
| kulelu88 | aah, waar die mense wil kom vir easter weekend en almal gaan in die pools piss maak | 19:34 |
| Kilos | in the movies | 19:35 |
| Langjan | ja van Gauteng af, dan bly ons locals ver weg | 19:35 |
| Langjan | daar het een in Kaapstad gestaan wat koring maal, maar hy het met water gewerk | 19:36 |
| kulelu88 | oom have you been to warmbaths? | 19:36 |
| Kilos | Langjan how large is that drive | 19:36 |
| Langjan | 160Gb | 19:36 |
| Kilos | ya we used to race bikes from pta to warnbaths every weekend | 19:36 |
| Langjan | no sorry, 250 Gb | 19:36 |
| Kilos | you can not use the first 30g and then install ubuntu | 19:37 |
| Kilos | most drives give probs in their beginnings | 19:37 |
| kulelu88 | not the town oom. the waterpark. | 19:37 |
| Kilos | but i have a command that will check it for you | 19:37 |
| Kilos | ya we used to go swim after the dice | 19:38 |
| Langjan | you mean partition it? | 19:38 |
| Kilos | yes | 19:38 |
| kulelu88 | wat a lekker life you had oom. surfer, lifeguard, biker, etc. | 19:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:38 |
| Kilos | i have had a good life | 19:38 |
| Kilos | last 16 with pain thoug | 19:39 |
| Langjan | Well, let me try that, fresh install...again | 19:39 |
| Kilos | though | 19:39 |
| Kilos | wait jan | 19:39 |
| Kilos | first check it | 19:39 |
| kulelu88 | the rest of us are hustling day in day out | 19:39 |
| Langjan | how to check it? | 19:39 |
| Kilos | im looking for the command | 19:40 |
| Kilos | patience oom | 19:40 |
| Langjan | a virtue | 19:40 |
| magespawn | Kilos: i will do something about membership, i am off to bed, good night all | 19:40 |
| Kilos | night magespawn | 19:41 |
| Langjan | lekker slaap magespawn | 19:41 |
| Kilos | oom Langjan replace the drive and see if it boots | 19:42 |
| Kilos | is so run sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result | 19:42 |
| kulelu88 | oom Langjan ?? heh, how is oom calling someone else an oom | 19:43 |
| Langjan | OK but why should it not boot? | 19:43 |
| Langjan | Want hierdie is 'n egte regte oom | 19:43 |
| Kilos | he is 8 years older than me | 19:43 |
| Langjan | and 2 months | 19:43 |
| kulelu88 | yoh | 19:43 |
| Kilos | lol and 2 months note | 19:43 |
| kulelu88 | nou het ons twee ooms op ubuntu za | 19:43 |
| kulelu88 | and I thought we'd struggle to get older folks involved with ubuntu | 19:44 |
| Langjan | ja een jongetjie en een regte een | 19:44 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:44 |
| Kilos | ok Langjan boot into it and only run that command | 19:44 |
| Kilos | nothing else | 19:44 |
| kulelu88 | good to meet you oom Langjan | 19:45 |
| Langjan | I have three ubuntu converts in Warmbad all over 60, one over 70 | 19:45 |
| Kilos | well done oom | 19:45 |
| Kilos | invite them here | 19:46 |
| Langjan | good to meet you also kulelu88 | 19:46 |
| kulelu88 | it's very easy to use linux these days. plug n play | 19:46 |
| kulelu88 | nobody can make CLI excuses anymore | 19:46 |
| Langjan | they have little time for kids games... | 19:46 |
| * inetpro wonders about the age of the oldest fellow with official ubuntu membership | 19:46 | |
| Kilos | lol | 19:46 |
| Kilos | interesting thought | 19:46 |
| Kilos | ill ask them next month | 19:47 |
| inetpro | next month? | 19:47 |
| Kilos | ya when my sjambok is reinforced | 19:47 |
| inetpro | isn't the next meeting like in 3 days time? | 19:47 |
| Kilos | if they say no i go back to windowsa | 19:48 |
| Kilos | not just meeting man one of the stress meets | 19:48 |
| kulelu88 | well oom Langjan is the oldest here. | 19:48 |
| inetpro | why even wait for a meeting to ask such question? | 19:48 |
| kulelu88 | 70! | 19:48 |
| Kilos | 72 | 19:49 |
| kulelu88 | oh ja. sorry | 19:49 |
| kulelu88 | im getting old also | 19:49 |
| Kilos | i cant ask that kind of questions now | 19:49 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:49 |
| Kilos | they must think im a seroius dude | 19:49 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:49 |
| Kilos | that wxl is also going for it | 19:50 |
| Kilos | and he does lots | 19:50 |
| Kilos | ive learned to look at peeps wiki pages | 19:51 |
| Kilos | Langjan tell me what it finds hey | 19:52 |
| Kilos | if it finds none then we zero the drive and then install afresh | 19:54 |
| Langjan | kilos it says No such file or directory while trying to determine device size | 19:54 |
| Kilos | is the drive plugged in? | 19:55 |
| Kilos | sda must be there | 19:55 |
| Langjan | the machine is running on the drive | 19:56 |
| Kilos | check you typed command right | 19:56 |
| Langjan | typed it exactly like you said | 19:57 |
| Kilos | wow | 19:57 |
| Kilos | run gparted | 19:57 |
| Kilos | that will tell you what the drive is called | 19:58 |
| Kilos | i think | 19:58 |
| Langjan | sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdal > bad-blocks-result | 19:58 |
| Kilos | sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result | 19:58 |
| * inetpro calls for a halt | 19:58 | |
| Kilos | ya looks same | 19:58 |
| inetpro | good night everyone | 19:58 |
| Kilos | ok we halt | 19:58 |
| Kilos | night inetpro | 19:59 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 19:59 |
| Langjan | rest well inetpro | 19:59 |
| kulelu88 | night inetpro | 19:59 |
| inetpro | uh btw, sdal != sda1 | 19:59 |
| Kilos | wow how can there be no sda | 20:00 |
| Kilos | ya one | 20:00 |
| inetpro | != means NOT EQUAL TO | 20:00 |
| Kilos | where did you see that | 20:01 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 03/16 21:59:56 <inetpro> uh btw, sdal != sda1 | 20:01 |
| Kilos | oom jan | 20:01 |
| Langjan | ja | 20:01 |
| Kilos | sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result | 20:01 |
| Langjan | yes kilos, ok thks will try that | 20:02 |
| Langjan | its the same as last time | 20:02 |
| Kilos | wow | 20:02 |
| Kilos | something corrupt there | 20:03 |
| Kilos | what does gparted show you | 20:03 |
| Langjan | oh, sda1 not sdal | 20:03 |
| Kilos | ya man 1 as in one | 20:03 |
| Kilos | een ein | 20:04 |
| Langjan | thats better, its checking... | 20:05 |
| Langjan | how long to wait? | 20:05 |
| Kilos | not too long | 20:06 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s2rY2D1pxE | 20:07 |
| Kilos | there is what happens | 20:07 |
| Kilos | and how fsck remembers then | 20:08 |
| Kilos | but if this works and pc is good it means you need a new drive | 20:09 |
| Kilos | just not immediately | 20:09 |
| Langjan | there are 242 million blocks to check, your last few comments are a bit cryptic, please elucidate | 20:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:11 |
| Kilos | does it say where it is now | 20:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:11 |
| Kilos | i did that on a 1TB drive | 20:11 |
| Langjan | no it just says checking for bad blocks (read-only test) | 20:13 |
| Kilos | i mean also if it finds badblocks and marks them you can still use the drive but once badblocks start they have a habit of becoming more | 20:13 |
| Langjan | Ok so if no bad blocks then the drive is OK? | 20:14 |
| Kilos | i have a 1TB drive that i had to partition so it doesnt use they first 50g at all | 20:14 |
| Kilos | yip normally | 20:14 |
| Kilos | then something is just corrupt | 20:15 |
| Kilos | could be win7 left something bad in the mbr | 20:15 |
| Kilos | zeroing the drive makes it like a new one, no mbr or anything else | 20:15 |
| Langjan | what is zeroing the drive? | 20:17 |
| Kilos | it wipes everything | 20:17 |
| Langjan | and what is mbr? | 20:17 |
| Kilos | master boot record | 20:17 |
| Langjan | What is it that wipes everything? | 20:18 |
| Kilos | small section that tells pc what to boot | 20:18 |
| Kilos | writes zeroes to everything | 20:18 |
| Langjan | Is the "it" you refer to the process now running? | 20:18 |
| Kilos | same as a brand new drive | 20:18 |
| Kilos | oh lemme read | 20:19 |
| Kilos | zeroing is a command that writes zeroes to thew hole drive in seconds | 20:19 |
| Langjan | so what does that have to do with what we are doing now? Is it a next step? | 20:20 |
| Kilos | if bad blocks finds nothing bad then the drive should still be good | 20:21 |
| Kilos | so zeroing will remove whatever was corrupt | 20:21 |
| Langjan | ok but where does the zeroing that you refer to come in? | 20:22 |
| Kilos | and you get a new mbr from the bios and then install ubuntu and there should be no trace of win7 left | 20:22 |
| Kilos | if the drive is good but giving your problems something is corrupt somewhere | 20:22 |
| Langjan | Kilos is the process that is running now what you call zeroing? | 20:23 |
| Kilos | nono | 20:23 |
| Kilos | this is looking for physical bad sectors | 20:24 |
| Langjan | oh, ok so when will I know it is finished? | 20:24 |
| Kilos | whew i dunno how long it is going to take, you can go sleep so long and we go on tomorrow if you like | 20:25 |
| Langjan | Well perhaps thats not a bad idea, it may take a while to work thro 250 GB | 20:26 |
| Kilos | just plug the charger in so pc dont die half way | 20:26 |
| Langjan | done | 20:26 |
| Kilos | ok lets go crash then | 20:26 |
| Langjan | Incidentally, the ssd was for my desktop, this rogue belongs to one of my Ubuntu converts | 20:27 |
| Langjan | Many thanks so far, Kilos, sleep well | 20:28 |
| Kilos | you too my oompie | 20:28 |
| Kilos | aha | 20:28 |
| Kilos | lekker slaap | 20:28 |
| Langjan | dankkie jy ook | 20:28 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:28 |
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