[05:28] morning all [05:45] hi barrydk [05:46] More Kilos en almal [06:09] hi mazal [06:09] Morning everyone [06:12] morning [06:12] hi Padroni [06:12] hi [06:13] how are you? [06:13] good ty and you? [06:15] I'm good [06:37] good morning [06:37] magespawn: By the way, inetpro on freenode told me "tell magespawn there is no ant-malware that will help for someone like tannie malware" 1 day, 12 hours, 18 minutes and 44 seconds ago [06:37] hi magespawn [06:37] haha [06:38] hi Kilos [06:38] that is a truth [06:52] good mornings [06:53] hi inetpro [06:55] morning inetpro [07:03] anyone here who can comment someone who wants a contract to do security auditing on linux boxes and who knows what the hell they are doing [07:07] Symmetria: i would love to do it, but i would be completly out of my depth [07:29] hi TinuvaMac [07:29] morning Kilos [07:34] hi Rynomster [07:42] wb magespawn [07:46] morning [07:46] hi Squirm [08:26] why so quiet? [08:35] been outside digging in storeroom [08:44] hi Kerbero [08:46] sjoe [08:48] ha you the hopper today Padroni_ [08:48] lol === Padroni_ is now known as Padroni [09:01] Hello guys. [09:01] hi lin [09:01] All good, kilos [09:01] All good [09:01] good [09:01] So I figure you live in SA, right, Kilos ? [09:02] We might meet soon. [09:02] Will be coming there for flight training [09:02] thats right near pretoria and you ? [09:02] I'm in Kenya for now.. [09:02] But when I come.. [09:02] It'll be at Cape Town... [09:03] aha thats not far from here [09:03] about 1000ks [09:03] haha [09:03] Some braai shortens the distance, [09:03] lol [09:03] hey lin if you in kenya you should also join the africa channel [09:03] Cool [09:04] #ubuntu-africa [09:04] Thanks for the reminder. [09:04] I had lost the previous config for the xchat client [09:04] im trying to pull the ubuntu users out of nairobilug [09:04] aha [09:05] actually they can still be with the lug but with the buntu peeps as well [09:05] meh [09:05] Not that I'm an ubuntu fan but..I like the guys. [09:05] The community [09:05] oh yes we are the best [09:06] you are welcome here by us [09:06] what system do you use? [09:06] Arch Linux [09:06] On all systems [09:06] whew you one of the clever guys [09:08] meh [09:08] I like rolling releases [09:08] i use kubuntu so i dont have to think much [09:08] I also like gentoo [09:08] A lot [09:08] lol [09:08] But of late, haven't used it much [09:08] Arch is faster to set up compared to gentoo [09:09] kde just works [09:09] lolzzzz [09:09] hehe [09:09] Consuming a junkload of RAM in the process. [09:09] not too bad [09:10] I like the way it handles multiple monitors though [09:10] Painless setup/ [09:10] Can't say the same with xfce [09:10] im running it on a dual core with 4g ram [09:10] I'm a minimalist though [09:10] What are your full specs? [09:10] ya but you have to think more [09:10] lol [09:11] 3g dual core with 4g ddr3 [09:11] 3g...umm... [09:11] You lost me there.. [09:11] 3 gig [09:11] oh [09:11] I have 32 GB of RAM [09:12] whew [09:12] An Intel Core i7 4700HQ [09:12] lovelly [09:12] 4 cores. 8 threads [09:12] NVIDIA GTX 980M SLI [09:12] 3 1 TB M.2 SSDs configured in RAID 0 [09:13] whew when you fly over here to capetown drop it out over pretoria [09:13] ill catch [09:13] And another 2 TB for storage [09:13] wow [09:13] I use this rig for gaming + video editing [09:13] cool [09:14] And compiling Android ROMs + ChromiumOS [09:14] i could most likely take off with something like that [09:14] These projects require a shitload of RAM [09:15] i wouldnt have thought anything couls slow that setup down much [09:15] could [09:16] There are things that bring it to a halt [09:16] Like the Meson build system [09:16] And building Android [09:16] wow [09:17] breakfast find5-userdebug && mka [09:17] only building i do is block on block in minetest [09:17] lol [09:17] lol [09:17] lolzzzzzzz [09:20] when you are bored get some more guys to join #ubuntu-africa [09:20] I will [09:21] and search out all the ubuntu users in your area if possible [09:21] hehehe [09:21] nice [09:21] you arch guys suppress them i think [09:21] nope [09:21] lol ty [09:21] Probably not [09:21] most of the guys I know run some variant of Ubuntu and Fedora [09:22] oh and also if you know of any in other countries in africa invite them too please [09:22] ;-0 [09:22] ;-) [09:26] hi magellanic [09:26] greets [09:35] hi [09:41] lin_ are you coming here for pilot training or just to have wings glued on to you [09:46] Pilot training. [09:46] lol [09:46] cool [10:54] Hi Kilos [10:54] hi Langjan [10:54] hoesit [10:54] good ty and you [10:55] gimme one minute [10:55] well thks [10:55] yu got two [10:55] hi Langjan [10:56] Hi Padroni, you OK? [10:56] lol my eyes were floating [10:56] I/m good thanx [10:57] ok Langjan is it still hanging? [10:57] It plays around like liquorice allsorts [10:58] sometime hangs and gets up again other tmes it has to be powered off [10:58] does it only do it when you have certain things running [10:58] then screen goes blank, have to rebot to get icons back on screen [10:58] ok have you got an error message for us [10:58] no discernible pattern re apps [10:59] I got long error messages this morning, could not get them down before it shut down again [10:59] inetpro ping [11:00] hopefully he knows how to find it [11:00] Padroni ideas, lappy hanging at odd times [11:01] could be any of a numbe of things [11:01] Since it is a laptop, I would look at overheating first [11:01] Langjan are you on it now [11:01] Yes, the fan seems to come on and go off [11:01] get a system monitor app and monitor the temperature [11:02] It could also be faulty RAM [11:02] where the alptop will work fine as long as the RAM usage is under a certain threshold, and the second it goes over that and hits a bad spot, it hangs [11:02] RAM was 700Mb, upgraded to 1,7Gb (don't know where the 0,7 comes from) [11:03] yeah that don't make sense [11:03] Could be reporting an odd amount due to some of it being used as video memory though [11:03] how many sticks of ram you got in that laptop? [11:04] OK let me try to get the temp monitor going [11:04] hang on [11:04] two sticks [11:04] ok [11:04] shut down [11:04] remove the new one, and leave only the oldest one [11:04] test the laptop [11:04] then do the same with the new one [11:04] if it hangs on the one and not the other, you know you got a bad stick in the equation [11:04] replace it then [11:05] OK thks awill try that [11:05] Padroni he is my oom [11:06] Ja nefie [11:06] ah ok [11:06] you can also run the memory test from Grub menu when you boot up [11:06] not often there is someone here older than me hehe [11:06] if memory test hangs you know you got bad RAM [11:07] How do I do that? Remember Miles calls me oompie [11:07] isnt there a command that will find the error message [11:07] like tail /var/log/syslog [11:07] oh [11:08] when you boot do you see the grub menu Langjan [11:08] Do I run that comand in the terminal? You say when I boot up... [11:08] no dude [11:09] when you boot up, you get a menu which gives you a choice of booting linux or running a memory test [11:09] im thinking of when it hangs a while then goes again [11:09] that is the test we are referring to [11:10] could be memory usage comes down or gets written to swap space ? [11:10] There is no such option that shows when I boot up [11:12] Now it restarted with the launcher in the middle of the screen and showing two half screens. As I said, liquorice allsorts [11:12] ok so we need to make it show the grub menu to start with Padroni [11:13] Langjan http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time [11:13] Maybe I should do the test of RAM sticks first? [11:13] ya do that [11:13] one step at a time hey [11:14] Restarted again, screen back to normal [11:14] OK will do and get back some time [11:14] ok good luck [11:14] thks [11:15] Langjan [11:15] maybe it is the old ram if the last owner was complaining about same prob [11:15] OK will try with the new one only first [11:16] Good point [11:16] Also suspicious with 700Mb... [11:17] ya something not right there [11:17] what was in it and what did you add [11:17] 512m each? [11:31] Kilos the original stick is 1Gb, in the machine it showed 700Mb, I added 1Gb and it showed 1,7Gb. [11:31] ah [11:32] Now I removed the old one and put the new 1GB in the bottom slot, it shows 746Mb, so it seems the slot is not picking up all the memory... [11:33] i dont know lappies at all. what happens if you put it in the second slot [11:33] or must the primary slot be used first [11:33] 1Gb RAM would loose only 64Mb to video memory [11:33] by default [11:33] so it can't be that [11:40] * Squirm looks around [11:40] 'lo [11:40] lo Squirm [11:42] I noticed that the battery was loose on one side when I removed it, however, that would not have affected the RAM pickup but could possibly have contributed to the messing around? [11:42] sjo [11:52] It picks up 746Mb of RAM from both 1GB sticks in both slots [11:52] sjoe [11:53] try run it with the new one and see if it hangs [11:58] Then it picks up 1,7Gb with both sticks. So 746 plus 746 adds up to 1700 - does not make sense. I will try just the one Kilos, but its very sluggish then. [11:58] ya but lets find if we can get it stable first [11:59] OK guys, many thanks for now, I have to run. Will let you know what is happening. [12:00] ty Padroni [12:03] ok [12:59] hi Mopkop [12:59] Hello again! [12:59] oh my [12:59] wb Padroni [13:00] of both of you [13:00] hi kulelu88 [13:00] Hello Padroni, kulelu88! [13:00] Hi [13:00] So I started learning Python... [13:01] Python <3 [13:02] good [13:03] oh my they both died [13:52] hi andrewlsd [13:52] Hi Kilos, Hi all. === andrewlsd is now known as zerlgi [13:53] * zerlgi lolz as nick goes from top to bottom of list. [13:53] (almost top) [13:54] zerlgi wb lad [13:54] ty, Kilos. [13:58] see how many we are here [13:59] at last we are growing [14:02] if this group hits 200 before 2015 ends, I will eat my shoe [14:03] nono man 200 is too much [14:03] 50 is good [14:04] * zerlgi calls renta-IRC-crowd so that we can watch kulelu88 eat his shoe ;-) [14:04] hahaha [14:07] * kulelu88 thinks zerlgi is part of modern political organization that rents crowds :D [14:08] lol [14:10] kulelu88 +1 [14:23] heya zerlgi [14:26] heyz magellanic [14:52] Hmm [14:52] We upgraded our internet [14:52] http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4218249529 [14:56] dahell? upload speed is double? [14:57] wow === kulelu88 is now known as kulelu88_away [15:15] wb Padroni [15:16] ty [15:16] Shift #2 now [15:16] * Padroni sighs [15:16] sjoe [15:17] kulelu88_away: I think they're equal, but download is always being used in this company [15:45] sorry, was testing a whizzy thing === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [15:56] Home === kulelu88_away is now known as kulelu88 [16:09] it must be 40MBs VDSL or maybe even fibre [16:16] Squirm: have you seen this?: http://xmodulo.com/check-internet-speed-command-line-linux.html [16:16] much nicer to test on the cli [16:26] hmm... [16:35] anyone seen the series Vikings? [16:36] kulelu88: we have fibre [16:37] Thanks inetpro, will have a look [16:37] works well [16:39] ty inetpro [16:39] better than using a browser [16:44] guess not [16:44] ive just seen it advertised [16:45] wb Langjan whats news [16:45] Padroni: I watched 1 episode. not too great [16:45] almal op ubuntu-za is clients van axxess :D [16:45] You never judge a series based on 1 episode [16:46] you have to watch at least 3 [16:46] kulelu88 ? [16:46] Padroni: It's kind of like a budget version of Game of thrones [16:46] Kilos: a lot of the people are Axxess clients :-/ [16:46] ah [16:47] Hi Kilos, I have fitted my laptop's 2GBRam, no change. Everything goes haywire, the desktop loses all icons and menus, shows peculiar windows, freezes. [16:47] from scratch or once warmed up? [16:48] One pattern seems to be emerging, the total loss of all on the desktop except for the picture [16:48] From scratch [16:49] It still picks up only 1,7Gb of RAM via 2x1Gb. [16:50] how clean are all the connections where the ram goes in [16:50] that won't matter [16:50] another idea [16:50] RAM will either work or it will not [16:50] boot from dvd and see if it does the same thing [16:51] run kive from dvd [16:51] live [16:51] Did you test the memory Langjan [16:54] Padroni, grub menu does not appear so no test option on startup === Webtricity is now known as Guest23440 [16:56] 'scuse me guys, just having dinner with my lady [16:56] enjoy [16:56] the boot up with a live cd and memtest from there [16:56] we told you this earlier already? [16:57] he may forget things [16:57] i think he is 10 years older than me [16:59] i go eat also as well too [17:30] i might go off for a while [17:40] Padroni I'm running on live CD, is it the system test that you want me to do? [17:41] memory test [17:45] where do I do memory test? [17:48] hmm... [17:51] while running system test manager booted on live CD the system froze again [17:52] in the livecd boot menu, select memtest [17:52] oh my [17:53] excuse my idiocy but I have never seen memtest selection in live boot menu, where do I find live boot menu? [17:54] gnight all [17:54] Its frozen again must I power off and reboot on CD? [17:54] ah, but you don't see the grub menu [17:54] gnight squirm [17:54] night Squirm [17:55] memtest in in the grub menu, as Padroni mentioned [17:55] gone [17:55] *gone [17:55] no grub menu on normal boot nor on live CD boot [17:55] yes jan boot from dvd and then choose memtest [17:55] where do I find memtest Kilos? [17:56] you um [17:56] um [17:56] ? [17:56] where it asks to install or run live there should be memtest there as well [17:56] never seen that, but getting there, will check [17:57] ive been off unity for so long now i forget some stuffs [17:57] about a year on kde only [17:58] oh somewhere it says disk check but that checks the dvd [17:59] i have a 10.04 cd here let me boot other pc on it [18:01] options are try, install or read release notes [18:01] ai! [18:02] somewhere used to be a mamtest [18:02] memtest too [18:03] no mam or memtest here that I can see... [18:03] lol [18:03] haha [18:03] ai! other pc so slow [18:05] I tried to install psensor to check temps, but it froze halfway... [18:06] while you are online try http://askubuntu.com/questions/489862/how-to-install-boot-repair-tool-in-ubuntu-14-04-live [18:06] lets see if we can at least get it booting [18:07] my 10.04 didnt show memtest either [18:08] someone stole it [18:09] trying the install route now [18:10] good evening [18:10] hi magespawn [18:10] hey K [18:10] Kilos-: too [18:10] lol [18:11] inetpro thanks for that speedtest-cli link [18:11] was just gonna say wow you are really getting lazy [18:11] efficient [18:11] works lekker hey [18:11] the pro has his moments [18:11] its booting ok [18:12] Im into the system monitor if that can help? [18:12] has it booted [18:12] cpu running at 60% [18:12] wow [18:12] yes it boots ok [18:13] never had a problem with booting, the only way to get it goinh asfter freeze is to reboot [18:13] did you get it with the ssd in? [18:14] memory running at about 40% [18:14] ssd? [18:14] oh isnt that the one with the solid state drive in? [18:14] good evening [18:15] Langjan: As the CD boots, the user can gain access to the advanced page and its options by pressing any key when the small logo appears at the bottom of your screen: [18:15] hi inetpro [18:15] no ssd that I know about, no its my machine that has the ssd, the one I'm chatting on [18:15] * Kilos- lets mr fixit take over [18:15] Test memory: 1. Initiates a Memtest86+ test. 2. Pressing ESC terminates the test. [18:16] ok must I reboot again to get to the advanced page? [18:16] * inetpro reading from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [18:17] OK into test memory [18:18] it takes long [18:19] Kilos-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda [18:19] ty inetpro [18:19] Kilos-: btw, please fix your funny tail! [18:19] oops sorry [18:19] darem nie n sleep stert nie [18:20] ai! === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [18:20]