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Unit193libxfce4ui 4.12.1 and xfwm4 4.12.1 in exp, as well as xfce4-xkb-plugin 1:0.7.1-1.00:01
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bluesabreUnit193: thanks01:10
bluesabreworking on syncs and merges now01:10
Unit193Oh yey.01:10
Unit193bluesabre: Anything I can help with?01:14
bluesabreUnit193: you can do some merges if you want01:16
bluesabre:)01:16
bluesabreNoskcaj, Unit193 gtk2-engines-xfce is not in the xubuntu packageset01:22
Unit193Didn't think it was.01:22
bluesabreI know, I think Noskcaj may have asked me to sync it earlier though01:22
bluesabreso, not something I can sync :)01:23
bluesabresame for the xfce package01:23
Unit193But you can with orage.01:24
Unit193-dict is unreleased in svn.01:24
bluesabrecool01:25
bluesabredoing places plugin now01:25
Unit193Stinks, because as I said thunar-dropbox-plugin is in Debian and is a bugfix, but you can't sync it. :P01:27
bluesabreyeah01:29
bluesabrewill send an email this week to get us an xfce packageset01:29
bluesabrefinally01:29
Unit193You looking at xfce412.html too?  Well, some of these make sense to have in the Xubuntu packageset, even if we don't ship them.  (xfdash, thunar-dropbox, xfce4-pulse, etc)01:33
bluesabrethe xubuntu packageset is generated by a script from our seed01:36
bluesabreso when we add apps, we get to upload them (usually), but we also lose upload rights for things we drop01:37
bluesabrethat why we need a separate packageset :)01:38
bluesabreand yes, I also refer to that page01:38
Unit193Sure, but those aren't exactly Xfce, but meh.01:38
Unit193Heh, alrighty.01:38
bluesabreclose enough01:41
bluesabre:)01:41
bluesabrepkg-xfce++01:41
Unit193Right, but neither of us are in that, and I don't think the packages will be. :P01:44
knomebluesabre, ping01:45
bluesabreknome: whats up?01:45
knomeprivate matters01:45
knome;)01:46
bluesabrebyw01:46
bluesabre*bye01:46
bluesabre:P01:46
Unit193bluesabre: What have you done so far?  What's left?01:46
bluesabreUnit193: for uploads? orage, xfce4-places-plugin, xfce4-weather-plugin uploaded01:47
knomebluesabre, see PM..01:48
bluesabreUnit193: do we anticipate debian to pick up the new xfwm4 in the next few days?01:53
Unit193xfwm4 4.12.1?  Already hit exp.01:55
bluesabre4.12.2, landed today01:56
Unit193Meh, right.  -announce not being used?01:56
bluesabredunno01:56
knomeUnit193, drop .1 off your hands, it's almost rotten already!!01:56
bluesabreNEWS also wasnt updated01:56
bluesabrenot sure whats up there01:56
Unit193Nothing recently hit -announce.01:57
bluesabreI'll package everything else01:57
bluesabremerging thunar now01:57
Unit193I got screenshooter. :D01:57
bluesabrecool01:57
Unit193thunar-archive-plugin, xfce4-xkb-plugin are up on Debian too.02:00
bluesabrenice02:00
Unit193Mmmm, only second one is in exp, first just in svn.02:00
bluesabresecond one not showing yet on package.d02:01
bluesabreusually syncpackage won't see it until it shows there02:01
Unit193https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfce4-xkb-plugin/news/20150315T215239Z.html02:01
bluesabrehttps://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/xfce4-xkb-plugin02:02
* bluesabre shrugs02:02
Unit193...And xfdesktop4 done.02:10
* bluesabre stops working on laundry to catch up02:12
Unit193That might be important, I washed sheets yesterday though. :P02:13
Unit193Xfwm4 is a bigger jump, and far past FF...02:13
bluesabrehaven't checked that one yet02:19
bluesabreUnit193: btw, why do we recommend udisks2 and debian does not?02:19
Unit193    - debian/control: recommend udisks2 for mounting devices. lp: #101463202:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1014632 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Drives/partitions not showing in left pane" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101463202:21
bluesabreawww, don't pull it from the debian changelog :(02:21
* bluesabre looks bad now02:21
Unit193Debian #719183  That I didn't get from there.02:22
ubottuDebian bug 719183 in thunar "thunar: Depend on udisks2" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/71918302:22
bluesabreany benefit to our running dh-autoreconf over xdt-autogen?02:23
* bluesabre checks debian changelog02:23
* bluesabre sees - Use dh-autoreconf and xdt-autogen to update libtool.m4 for new ports.02:24
Unit193Meh, not that much.  Give me a sec though.02:24
Unit193New question, does thunar need udisks2?02:27
* bluesabre doesn't know much about thunar02:28
Unit193grep udisk * -Ri  only got me stuff in debian/02:28
Unit193I think that delta could be dropped, but considering when we are in the cycle, how about not.02:32
bluesabreyeah02:33
bluesabreI think I'll keep udisks2, drop the rest of the delta02:33
Unit193Next cycle we should try it without. :D02:35
bluesabre:)02:36
knomeoff for now02:38
knomesee you later02:38
bluesabreseeya knome02:40
Unit193Welp, considering I don't think we gain much from merging much else now, guess all that's left is to check if xfwm4 is actually released, and qualifies...02:42
Unit193(What, past FF and UIF now?  Hrm..)02:42
Unit193The other two are in /source/02:42
bluesabrethanks02:43
bluesabreI'll upload thunar once I've tested it in a few02:43
bluesabreand I'll take care of those two as well02:43
bluesabreand be in bed by 11pm, woo02:43
bluesabre:D02:43
Unit193Wife cranky? ;)02:44
bluesabrenah02:44
bluesabre:D02:44
bluesabrewe sort-of have permission to add any missed xfce-4.12 components to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-places-plugin/+bug/142488702:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1424887 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Xfce 4.12 for Vivid" [Undecided,Triaged]02:45
bluesabreas I did with places-plugin a moment ago02:45
bluesabreI like syncing things now as we can so wombat starts off easier :)02:46
bluesabrealso not looking forward to reading through bug mail02:46
* bluesabre knows its piling up02:46
Unit193Bleh.  Well at least whisker will close 2 or 3 LP reports.02:47
bluesabreyeah, might not be able to do whisker though02:47
bluesabre1.5 is a UI change02:47
bluesabreand we just finished our slides02:47
Unit193Too bad I can't requestsync for wombat yet. :P02:47
Unit193Yeah, I wouldn't for sure.02:47
Unit193FWIW, -dict is only one actual bug fix, rest is build fixes.02:54
ochosibluesabre, Unit193: thanks a bunch for the upload work! yeah, that latest xfwm4 release is a bit whacky :) however, i won't start complaining about too many xfce releases happening ;)06:47
Unit193bluesabre: Actually, to sync xfce4-screenshooter should be A-OK.07:04
Unit193s/should be/is/07:07
Unit193ochosi: Hello.07:07
ochosihey there07:08
elfymorning all 07:17
ochosihey there07:17
elfyhi ochosi 07:18
ochosii'll re-schedule the meeting that didn't take place last week this week07:18
ochosiany time that would be good for you particularly?07:18
elfypost 1700 for me - but not sure any pressing need for me to be present currently, so ... 07:20
ochosiok07:21
ochosii'll ask bluesabre later and we'll see07:21
elfyyep ok:)07:21
Noskcajbluesabre, do you have upload rights for eyes-plugin? We may as well get the bugfix release for it in if we can08:31
Unit193He doesn't.08:33
bluesabrebrainwash: I think you saw this before, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/143227110:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1432271 in abiword (Ubuntu) "[vivid] Abiword always starts after logging in" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:34
brainvvashbluesabre, yea, I've mentioned it like 2 months ago10:36
bluesabrewant to comment on that bug with your findings? it was something with empathy or some plugin10:36
brainvvashoh, you remember more about this than I do10:37
brainvvashempathy.. yes, I'll have to check my config files10:38
brainvvashor the irc backlog :D10:38
ochosibluesabre: still around?12:30
knomeochosi, saw my PM?12:32
ochosiyup, haven't had time to read up on it12:32
ochosiwas out all day and just returned12:32
knomegood enough12:32
knome:)12:32
ochosiread and commented12:35
ochosieven amended12:35
knomehehe12:36
knomeyeah, that was there...12:36
flexiondotorg_Hi guys.15:39
flexiondotorg_Anyone here tried a daily iso today?15:39
elfynot yet - I will be though15:43
flexiondotorg_elfy, The Ubuntu MATE ones are not making it to Ubiquity. I've tested i386 and amd64.15:44
elfyright - well I'd actually only look at anyone else's if mine were failing 15:44
flexiondotorg_elfy, Exactly. I don't have any other favlours here right now. Not much bandwidth so seeking confirmation.15:45
elfyyep - I can understand that 15:45
elfyafter our last hiccup - I can zsync anyone's image quite quikckly now :D15:46
flexiondotorg_elfy, Yeah, I need to seed here so I can zsync every day.15:47
flexiondotorg_elfy, I see an error on the console about pwconv not being able to set the permission of /etc/passwd- to 060015:55
elfyflexiondotorg_: ack that here too - just checking ubuntu16:07
flexiondotorg_elfy, Thanks for confirming.16:08
elfywelcome16:08
elfyI'll check ubuntu then  go pingaling in release16:08
flexiondotorg_elfy, OK. So #ubuntu-release is the correct place for this issue to be raised?16:09
flexiondotorg_elfy, I also tested yesterdays images. Same issue.16:09
elfyit's the only place I know of - ubuntu is well up the swannee - that's still dated 6th16:10
flexiondotorg_elfy, seb128 is chatting to me about this issue in #ubuntu-devel16:15
elfynot going there ... 16:16
dkesselkrytarik: I approved your xubuntu-docs translation suggestions17:33
krytarikdkessel: Thanks.18:19
Noskcajbluesabre, can you please sync libxfce4ui?19:21
Noskcajbluesabre, also, xfwm from http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xfwm4/xfwm4_4.12.1-1.dsc + http://pastebin.com/9AvZiShX is upload ready19:45
Unit193I'd have either skipped and gone to .2, or waited for Debian to pull it in. :P19:51
Unit193bluesabre: Also I maaaay have gone overboard, in case you didn't notice I updated xfce412.html's generator again, adding not only listing all the core and apps, but panel-plugins too. :319:55
NoskcajUnit193, the change from 4.12.2 is included in debian's 4.12.1 as a patch20:08
Noskcajso corsac didn't bother with 4.12.220:08
Unit193Makes sense.20:10
Unit193Awwh, you used the 'Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers' one. :P20:11
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bluesabreochosi: still around?21:39
ochosibluesabre: still around?22:33
bluesabreochosi: maybe22:33
ochosiwooo, impossible :p22:33
knometrololo22:33
bluesabre:D22:34
bluesabreochosi: whats up?22:35
ochosidifferent things i guess :)22:35
ochosifirst of all, i wanted to make up for the meeting i set and then missed last week22:35
ochosiso i wanted to check whether any particular time/day would be good for you22:36
bluesabrebefore 1200 or after 2130 UTC on weekdays, pretty flexible on weekends22:37
ochosik22:40
ochosibluesabre: any idea what mips64el is?22:42
bluesabre64bit mips architecture?22:42
bluesabreI used mips when learning assembly, not sure where its used otherwise22:43
bluesabrestill alive and kicking it seems, http://www.osnews.com/story/28395/MIPS_Creator_CI20_vs_Raspberry_Pi_222:44
ochosioh right22:46
ochosiwell there was that parole bugreport22:46
ochosiand another one about appdata22:46
bluesabreindeed22:46
bluesabregot some bugs to take care of it seems :)22:47
ochosijust finished the xfpm port (finally!) today22:47
ochosiso i can start to look into other things again22:47
ochosithought i was done a week ago already, but always tons of tiny things popping up...22:48
geniibluesabre: That particular MIPS board is MIPS32, but there are some interesting 64bit ones around, primarily in server appliances22:48
ochosinot sure parole is really server software :)22:48
bluesabre:)22:49
bluesabrenot much of a hardware guy these days22:49
ochosiyeah, same here22:52
Unit193bluesabre: In case you didn't see, someone (next cycle) should really hit up xfce4-time-out-plugin.22:55
bluesabreUnit193: you mean upload or fix?22:56
Unit193New upstream, Debian doesn't have this package.22:57
bluesabreah, gotcha22:57
Unit193(Same for eyes for that matter.)23:00
bluesabrehow could they not want eyes in debian23:02
bluesabresilly23:02
ochosiindeed23:02
ochosiespecially when it created such media-buzz when 4.12 was released23:02
Unit193RFP #40738023:03
bluesabre#dddddd23:06
bluesabre:D23:06
bluesabrehttp://i.imgur.com/NWa20Cn.png23:06
ochosihehe, nice23:08
ochosiis that pidgin?23:08
bluesabreseems to be part of weechat's web interface, glowing-bear23:08
Unit193Well...23:11

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