[00:01] <Unit193> libxfce4ui 4.12.1 and xfwm4 4.12.1 in exp, as well as xfce4-xkb-plugin 1:0.7.1-1.
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[01:10] <bluesabre> Unit193: thanks
[01:10] <bluesabre> working on syncs and merges now
[01:10] <Unit193> Oh yey.
[01:14] <Unit193> bluesabre: Anything I can help with?
[01:16] <bluesabre> Unit193: you can do some merges if you want
[01:16] <bluesabre> :)
[01:22] <bluesabre> Noskcaj, Unit193 gtk2-engines-xfce is not in the xubuntu packageset
[01:22] <Unit193> Didn't think it was.
[01:22] <bluesabre> I know, I think Noskcaj may have asked me to sync it earlier though
[01:23] <bluesabre> so, not something I can sync :)
[01:23] <bluesabre> same for the xfce package
[01:24] <Unit193> But you can with orage.
[01:24] <Unit193> -dict is unreleased in svn.
[01:25] <bluesabre> cool
[01:25] <bluesabre> doing places plugin now
[01:27] <Unit193> Stinks, because as I said thunar-dropbox-plugin is in Debian and is a bugfix, but you can't sync it. :P
[01:29] <bluesabre> yeah
[01:29] <bluesabre> will send an email this week to get us an xfce packageset
[01:29] <bluesabre> finally
[01:33] <Unit193> You looking at xfce412.html too?  Well, some of these make sense to have in the Xubuntu packageset, even if we don't ship them.  (xfdash, thunar-dropbox, xfce4-pulse, etc)
[01:36] <bluesabre> the xubuntu packageset is generated by a script from our seed
[01:37] <bluesabre> so when we add apps, we get to upload them (usually), but we also lose upload rights for things we drop
[01:38] <bluesabre> that why we need a separate packageset :)
[01:38] <bluesabre> and yes, I also refer to that page
[01:38] <Unit193> Sure, but those aren't exactly Xfce, but meh.
[01:38] <Unit193> Heh, alrighty.
[01:41] <bluesabre> close enough
[01:41] <bluesabre> :)
[01:41] <bluesabre> pkg-xfce++
[01:44] <Unit193> Right, but neither of us are in that, and I don't think the packages will be. :P
[01:45] <knome> bluesabre, ping
[01:45] <bluesabre> knome: whats up?
[01:45] <knome> private matters
[01:46] <knome> ;)
[01:46] <bluesabre> byw
[01:46] <bluesabre> *bye
[01:46] <bluesabre> :P
[01:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: What have you done so far?  What's left?
[01:47] <bluesabre> Unit193: for uploads? orage, xfce4-places-plugin, xfce4-weather-plugin uploaded
[01:48] <knome> bluesabre, see PM..
[01:53] <bluesabre> Unit193: do we anticipate debian to pick up the new xfwm4 in the next few days?
[01:55] <Unit193> xfwm4 4.12.1?  Already hit exp.
[01:56] <bluesabre> 4.12.2, landed today
[01:56] <Unit193> Meh, right.  -announce not being used?
[01:56] <bluesabre> dunno
[01:56] <knome> Unit193, drop .1 off your hands, it's almost rotten already!!
[01:56] <bluesabre> NEWS also wasnt updated
[01:56] <bluesabre> not sure whats up there
[01:57] <Unit193> Nothing recently hit -announce.
[01:57] <bluesabre> I'll package everything else
[01:57] <bluesabre> merging thunar now
[01:57] <Unit193> I got screenshooter. :D
[01:57] <bluesabre> cool
[02:00] <Unit193> thunar-archive-plugin, xfce4-xkb-plugin are up on Debian too.
[02:00] <bluesabre> nice
[02:00] <Unit193> Mmmm, only second one is in exp, first just in svn.
[02:01] <bluesabre> second one not showing yet on package.d
[02:01] <bluesabre> usually syncpackage won't see it until it shows there
[02:01] <Unit193> https://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfce4-xkb-plugin/news/20150315T215239Z.html
[02:02] <bluesabre> https://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/xfce4-xkb-plugin
[02:02]  * bluesabre shrugs
[02:10] <Unit193> ...And xfdesktop4 done.
[02:12]  * bluesabre stops working on laundry to catch up
[02:13] <Unit193> That might be important, I washed sheets yesterday though. :P
[02:13] <Unit193> Xfwm4 is a bigger jump, and far past FF...
[02:19] <bluesabre> haven't checked that one yet
[02:19] <bluesabre> Unit193: btw, why do we recommend udisks2 and debian does not?
[02:21] <Unit193>     - debian/control: recommend udisks2 for mounting devices. lp: #1014632
[02:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1014632 in thunar (Ubuntu) "Drives/partitions not showing in left pane" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1014632
[02:21] <bluesabre> awww, don't pull it from the debian changelog :(
[02:21]  * bluesabre looks bad now
[02:22] <Unit193> Debian #719183  That I didn't get from there.
[02:22] <ubottu> Debian bug 719183 in thunar "thunar: Depend on udisks2" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/719183
[02:23] <bluesabre> any benefit to our running dh-autoreconf over xdt-autogen?
[02:23]  * bluesabre checks debian changelog
[02:24]  * bluesabre sees     - Use dh-autoreconf and xdt-autogen to update libtool.m4 for new ports.
[02:24] <Unit193> Meh, not that much.  Give me a sec though.
[02:27] <Unit193> New question, does thunar need udisks2?
[02:28]  * bluesabre doesn't know much about thunar
[02:28] <Unit193> grep udisk * -Ri  only got me stuff in debian/
[02:32] <Unit193> I think that delta could be dropped, but considering when we are in the cycle, how about not.
[02:33] <bluesabre> yeah
[02:33] <bluesabre> I think I'll keep udisks2, drop the rest of the delta
[02:35] <Unit193> Next cycle we should try it without. :D
[02:36] <bluesabre> :)
[02:38] <knome> off for now
[02:38] <knome> see you later
[02:40] <bluesabre> seeya knome
[02:42] <Unit193> Welp, considering I don't think we gain much from merging much else now, guess all that's left is to check if xfwm4 is actually released, and qualifies...
[02:42] <Unit193> (What, past FF and UIF now?  Hrm..)
[02:42] <Unit193> The other two are in /source/
[02:43] <bluesabre> thanks
[02:43] <bluesabre> I'll upload thunar once I've tested it in a few
[02:43] <bluesabre> and I'll take care of those two as well
[02:43] <bluesabre> and be in bed by 11pm, woo
[02:43] <bluesabre> :D
[02:44] <Unit193> Wife cranky? ;)
[02:44] <bluesabre> nah
[02:44] <bluesabre> :D
[02:45] <bluesabre> we sort-of have permission to add any missed xfce-4.12 components to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-places-plugin/+bug/1424887
[02:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1424887 in xfce4 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Xfce 4.12 for Vivid" [Undecided,Triaged]
[02:45] <bluesabre> as I did with places-plugin a moment ago
[02:46] <bluesabre> I like syncing things now as we can so wombat starts off easier :)
[02:46] <bluesabre> also not looking forward to reading through bug mail
[02:46]  * bluesabre knows its piling up
[02:47] <Unit193> Bleh.  Well at least whisker will close 2 or 3 LP reports.
[02:47] <bluesabre> yeah, might not be able to do whisker though
[02:47] <bluesabre> 1.5 is a UI change
[02:47] <bluesabre> and we just finished our slides
[02:47] <Unit193> Too bad I can't requestsync for wombat yet. :P
[02:47] <Unit193> Yeah, I wouldn't for sure.
[02:54] <Unit193> FWIW, -dict is only one actual bug fix, rest is build fixes.
[06:47] <ochosi> bluesabre, Unit193: thanks a bunch for the upload work! yeah, that latest xfwm4 release is a bit whacky :) however, i won't start complaining about too many xfce releases happening ;)
[07:04] <Unit193> bluesabre: Actually, to sync xfce4-screenshooter should be A-OK.
[07:07] <Unit193> s/should be/is/
[07:07] <Unit193> ochosi: Hello.
[07:08] <ochosi> hey there
[07:17] <elfy> morning all 
[07:17] <ochosi> hey there
[07:18] <elfy> hi ochosi 
[07:18] <ochosi> i'll re-schedule the meeting that didn't take place last week this week
[07:18] <ochosi> any time that would be good for you particularly?
[07:20] <elfy> post 1700 for me - but not sure any pressing need for me to be present currently, so ... 
[07:21] <ochosi> ok
[07:21] <ochosi> i'll ask bluesabre later and we'll see
[07:21] <elfy> yep ok:)
[08:31] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, do you have upload rights for eyes-plugin? We may as well get the bugfix release for it in if we can
[08:33] <Unit193> He doesn't.
[10:34] <bluesabre> brainwash: I think you saw this before, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1432271
[10:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1432271 in abiword (Ubuntu) "[vivid] Abiword always starts after logging in" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[10:36] <brainvvash> bluesabre, yea, I've mentioned it like 2 months ago
[10:36] <bluesabre> want to comment on that bug with your findings? it was something with empathy or some plugin
[10:37] <brainvvash> oh, you remember more about this than I do
[10:38] <brainvvash> empathy.. yes, I'll have to check my config files
[10:38] <brainvvash> or the irc backlog :D
[12:30] <ochosi> bluesabre: still around?
[12:32] <knome> ochosi, saw my PM?
[12:32] <ochosi> yup, haven't had time to read up on it
[12:32] <ochosi> was out all day and just returned
[12:32] <knome> good enough
[12:32] <knome> :)
[12:35] <ochosi> read and commented
[12:35] <ochosi> even amended
[12:36] <knome> hehe
[12:36] <knome> yeah, that was there...
[15:39] <flexiondotorg_> Hi guys.
[15:39] <flexiondotorg_> Anyone here tried a daily iso today?
[15:43] <elfy> not yet - I will be though
[15:44] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, The Ubuntu MATE ones are not making it to Ubiquity. I've tested i386 and amd64.
[15:44] <elfy> right - well I'd actually only look at anyone else's if mine were failing 
[15:45] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, Exactly. I don't have any other favlours here right now. Not much bandwidth so seeking confirmation.
[15:45] <elfy> yep - I can understand that 
[15:46] <elfy> after our last hiccup - I can zsync anyone's image quite quikckly now :D
[15:47] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, Yeah, I need to seed here so I can zsync every day.
[15:55] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, I see an error on the console about pwconv not being able to set the permission of /etc/passwd- to 0600
[16:07] <elfy> flexiondotorg_: ack that here too - just checking ubuntu
[16:08] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, Thanks for confirming.
[16:08] <elfy> welcome
[16:08] <elfy> I'll check ubuntu then  go pingaling in release
[16:09] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, OK. So #ubuntu-release is the correct place for this issue to be raised?
[16:09] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, I also tested yesterdays images. Same issue.
[16:10] <elfy> it's the only place I know of - ubuntu is well up the swannee - that's still dated 6th
[16:15] <flexiondotorg_> elfy, seb128 is chatting to me about this issue in #ubuntu-devel
[16:16] <elfy> not going there ... 
[17:33] <dkessel> krytarik: I approved your xubuntu-docs translation suggestions
[18:19] <krytarik> dkessel: Thanks.
[19:21] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, can you please sync libxfce4ui?
[19:45] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, also, xfwm from http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/x/xfwm4/xfwm4_4.12.1-1.dsc + http://pastebin.com/9AvZiShX is upload ready
[19:51] <Unit193> I'd have either skipped and gone to .2, or waited for Debian to pull it in. :P
[19:55] <Unit193> bluesabre: Also I maaaay have gone overboard, in case you didn't notice I updated xfce412.html's generator again, adding not only listing all the core and apps, but panel-plugins too. :3
[20:08] <Noskcaj> Unit193, the change from 4.12.2 is included in debian's 4.12.1 as a patch
[20:08] <Noskcaj> so corsac didn't bother with 4.12.2
[20:10] <Unit193> Makes sense.
[20:11] <Unit193> Awwh, you used the 'Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers' one. :P
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[21:39] <bluesabre> ochosi: still around?
[22:33] <ochosi> bluesabre: still around?
[22:33] <bluesabre> ochosi: maybe
[22:33] <ochosi> wooo, impossible :p
[22:33] <knome> trololo
[22:34] <bluesabre> :D
[22:35] <bluesabre> ochosi: whats up?
[22:35] <ochosi> different things i guess :)
[22:35] <ochosi> first of all, i wanted to make up for the meeting i set and then missed last week
[22:36] <ochosi> so i wanted to check whether any particular time/day would be good for you
[22:37] <bluesabre> before 1200 or after 2130 UTC on weekdays, pretty flexible on weekends
[22:40] <ochosi> k
[22:42] <ochosi> bluesabre: any idea what mips64el is?
[22:42] <bluesabre> 64bit mips architecture?
[22:43] <bluesabre> I used mips when learning assembly, not sure where its used otherwise
[22:44] <bluesabre> still alive and kicking it seems, http://www.osnews.com/story/28395/MIPS_Creator_CI20_vs_Raspberry_Pi_2
[22:46] <ochosi> oh right
[22:46] <ochosi> well there was that parole bugreport
[22:46] <ochosi> and another one about appdata
[22:46] <bluesabre> indeed
[22:47] <bluesabre> got some bugs to take care of it seems :)
[22:47] <ochosi> just finished the xfpm port (finally!) today
[22:47] <ochosi> so i can start to look into other things again
[22:48] <ochosi> thought i was done a week ago already, but always tons of tiny things popping up...
[22:48] <genii> bluesabre: That particular MIPS board is MIPS32, but there are some interesting 64bit ones around, primarily in server appliances
[22:48] <ochosi> not sure parole is really server software :)
[22:49] <bluesabre> :)
[22:49] <bluesabre> not much of a hardware guy these days
[22:52] <ochosi> yeah, same here
[22:55] <Unit193> bluesabre: In case you didn't see, someone (next cycle) should really hit up xfce4-time-out-plugin.
[22:56] <bluesabre> Unit193: you mean upload or fix?
[22:57] <Unit193> New upstream, Debian doesn't have this package.
[22:57] <bluesabre> ah, gotcha
[23:00] <Unit193> (Same for eyes for that matter.)
[23:02] <bluesabre> how could they not want eyes in debian
[23:02] <bluesabre> silly
[23:02] <ochosi> indeed
[23:02] <ochosi> especially when it created such media-buzz when 4.12 was released
[23:03] <Unit193> RFP #407380
[23:06] <bluesabre> #dddddd
[23:06] <bluesabre> :D
[23:06] <bluesabre> http://i.imgur.com/NWa20Cn.png
[23:08] <ochosi> hehe, nice
[23:08] <ochosi> is that pidgin?
[23:08] <bluesabre> seems to be part of weechat's web interface, glowing-bear
[23:11] <Unit193> Well...