[07:11] <igalic> how do i make upstart the default init, until systemd is fixed?
[07:17] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:56] <DalekSec> igalic: What do you mean by "fixed"?  In grub's advanced options, you have one to boot with upstart.  You can also install the package 'upstart' which will uninstall systemd-sysv.
[07:58] <igalic> DalekSec: fixed as in, work better than this: https://twitter.com/hirojin/status/576029309644730368
[07:59] <lordievader> igalic: Supposedly there is a bug report about that. But furthermore it boots up fine, right?
[07:59] <igalic> wow, i just had to reboot for my git-over-ssh to work again. O_o but only to my $work accounts....
[07:59] <DalekSec> Right, so that's not telling me a lot.
[08:00] <igalic> lordievader: it boots up fine with upstart. i h aven't had the patience to wait long enough for systemd to do anything before ctrl+alt+del'ing it.
[08:00] <igalic> lordievader: that is: ~2 or so minutes are my pain-limit.
[08:00] <DalekSec> igalic: Try booting without  quiet splash
[08:01] <igalic> will do, next time the system poops itself. so, ~4 hours :P
[08:01] <DalekSec> lordievader: And, lp 1432171
[08:01] <DalekSec> I'd consider https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1431743 worse. :P
[08:02] <nis> how do i install 15.04 alpha?
[08:02] <igalic> DalekSec: and there i thought systemd was supposed to make it boot *faster*…
[08:03] <DalekSec> igalic: Upstart is actually decently fast, it's sysvinit that both systemd and upstart beat on time.
[08:05] <lordievader> igalic: You could actually wait for it to boot up and investigate what is taking all that time. You know help development.
[08:06] <lordievader> nis: We are currently at the beta stage. Anyhow, you know that running a development release is not recommended?
[08:07] <nis> lordievader i know...but i would still like to try it since it is only a month away from release
[08:09] <lordievader> nis: Things my still break... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/current/
[08:09] <nis> lordievader any tips to do it from terminal?
[08:10] <lordievader> nis: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[08:11] <lordievader> From Utopic that should work.
[08:14] <nis> lodievader thnx
[09:02] <Julia7> Hi! How come this channel is so quiet?
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> Julia7: this is a support channel for ubuntu 15.04
[09:03] <Julia7> lotuspsychje: I understand, but...
[09:03] <Julia7> Does no one need help?
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> Julia7: it has not released yet, so not so active then main channel
[09:03] <Julia7> I know.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> Julia7: yes, at some times 15.04 issue get fixxed here
[09:06] <lordievader> It being quiet here is good thing, stuff works.
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> :p
[10:01] <Guest61294> hello everyone
[10:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> anybody here?
[10:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> beside the stupid bots?
[10:03] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :P
[10:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> yes no
[10:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> ?
[10:06] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right.. Anybody has any idea why vivid defaults to an mobile/tablet mode on a laptop?
[10:06] <k1l> your atitude didnt motivate lots of users to ask how they can help you
[10:07] <k1l> you did install the unity8 package which is the phone and tablet only unity so far?
[10:09] <Gorilla_No_Baka> my attitude was a bit cranky which is only normal having waited one hour to download the official iso from the official page which was stating that that was the correct one to download for an AMD architecture.. So.. there you go.. I do appologize if my attitude pissed some people off..
[10:13] <brendand> Gorilla_No_Baka, you might have changed the default session in the greeter
[10:13] <brendand> Gorilla_No_Baka, there's an icon in the top right corner of the password entry box
[10:14] <brendand> Gorilla_No_Baka, i can't remember the exact item it should be, but it should not be unity8
[10:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> So, yeah.. when i am booted into the tablet mode there is no way to get a terminal started using the normal shortcuts.. Apparently no shortcuts are working .. i tried the ubuntu store --no joy.. it can only find some games.. brendand .. i thought so myself but when i rebooted there was option to change the default session.. i am used to the icon you are talking about as i am normally running my o
[10:15] <k1l_> the amd64 is not for amd only. its the 64bit iso named after the 64bit patent which amd invented.
[10:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> penbox wm in top of the ubuntu
[10:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> k1l_:  thanks mate..
[10:15] <k1l_> Gorilla_No_Baka: so you installed the desktop-next or unity8 desktop?
[10:15] <Gorilla_No_Baka> err.. i might have been stupid enough to install desktop-next
[10:16] <Gorilla_No_Baka> err.. i might have been stupid enough to install desktop-next iso..
[10:16] <brendand> Gorilla_No_Baka, tablet mode on desktop is still experimental
[10:16] <k1l_> that is the actual unity8 on MIR, which is the phone OS right now. that will be the desktop convergence in future, but they only worked on the phone and tablet desktop so far.
[10:17] <Gorilla_No_Baka> brendand: hih-hi.. i can see that now.. i mean normally i do not care about experimental isos  because until now i was always able to drop to the terminal on every experimental issos  and apt-get my way through everything i needed
[10:17] <brendand> Gorilla_No_Baka, the reason there aren't many apps in the store is because they have to be made available for intel arch which most aren't by default
[10:19] <Gorilla_No_Baka> k1l_: are there two differen isos ? one with the unity 8 and one desktop-next.. i got mislead by the desktop name..
[10:19] <Gorilla_No_Baka> right.. so i guess i can wget the new iso and dd-it on the usb and start over again..
[10:19] <k1l_> desktpü-next is the name of the unity8/MIR (aka phone and tablet only so far) setup.
[10:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> k1l_:  so if i wanted to try the real deskto version which one should i go for?
[10:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> really confused.com here
[10:20] <Gorilla_No_Baka> :)
[10:20] <k1l_> the regular iso
[10:21] <Gorilla_No_Baka> first time for everything i guess.
[10:21] <k1l_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[10:21] <Gorilla_No_Baka> is that for the vivid one/
[10:21] <k1l_> since you ask in the +1 channel: yes
[10:21] <Gorilla_No_Baka> k1l_:  cheers mate
[11:47] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[18:54] <qfqz> hello
[18:54] <qfqz> i dont know why but when i boot recent daily, it ask me if i want to try or intall. i say try. then the screen gets somehow grey and thats all
[18:55] <qfqz> i have to press reset
[23:35] <Danielbrazilian> hello
[23:35] <Danielbrazilian> anybody here please?
[23:38] <hggdh> Danielbrazilian: easier to expose your doubt/problem, and wait for someone to answer.
[23:38] <Danielbrazilian> thank you hggdh i will do it next time
[23:39] <Danielbrazilian> I just installed ubuntu mate 15.04 and the mouse wouldn't appear
[23:39] <Danielbrazilian> i fixed it dont know how exactly
[23:39] <Danielbrazilian> put some command on the terminal searched from the internet
[23:40] <Danielbrazilian> now it works but would like to know if it was something i done wrong or it is a "beta issue"
[23:41] <hggdh> Danielbrazilian: just this one, and I am off for food: since we do not know what you did, it is difficult to say anything...
[23:41] <Danielbrazilian> other thing is.. i have installed intel hd 4400 with xedgers ppa so i would love to know if games on linux works fine
[23:41] <Danielbrazilian> sorry mate
[23:43] <Danielbrazilian> i am still installing the games from steam but would like to hear from someone that has experienced with the same graphics card