[00:00] <watsoncomputers>  gonna reboot again
[00:02] <watsoncomputers> ok I am at the UbuntuGnome menu screen under other options I have Expert mode, acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, nomodeset, Free software only
[00:03] <manokara> nomodeset didn't work before, right?
[00:04] <watsoncomputers> I guess this is grub because I have no mouse just keyboard controls
[00:04] <watsoncomputers> I got a terminal window and then startx
[00:05] <watsoncomputers> at least I had some functionality of the desktop
[00:05] <watsoncomputers> you said start shell?
[00:05] <manokara> gnome-shell
[00:05] <manokara> instead of startx
[00:06] <watsoncomputers> ok let's see what that brings
[00:09] <watsoncomputers> Error: gdk_mir_display_open
[00:09] <manokara> oh noes
[00:10] <manokara> did it hang?
[00:10] <manokara> errors usually happen when booting
[00:10] <watsoncomputers> Faile to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[00:10] <watsoncomputers> Window manager error: Unagle to ope X display
[00:11] <watsoncomputers> back to prompt
[00:11] <manokara> :/
[00:11] <watsoncomputers> yea rall bummer
[00:11] <watsoncomputers> I don't see what's all the hype about gnome
[00:12] <manokara> it's the extensions, i guess
[00:12] <watsoncomputers> Well I'll never know about them at this rate
[00:13] <watsoncomputers> hehe
[00:14] <manokara> http://i.imgur.com/GHqAgwQ.jpg - a little of those extensions
[00:15] <manokara> network meter, translator, botto mdock
[00:15] <manokara> it's pretty customizable
[00:15] <watsoncomputers> I don't know If you watch Youtube but Logan of Tek Syndicate has a gnome desktop with games and video production software running three montors with Nvida cards
[00:16] <manokara> i do watch youtube, but don't know about that channel, hehe
[00:16] <watsoncomputers> And He just switched to Linux
[00:16] <manokara> i have a dual monitor setup with nvidia cards
[00:16] <manokara> steam, some games
[00:17] <manokara> once you get used to linux you don't want to leave it :)
[00:17] <watsoncomputers> Go to TekSyndicate.com and you'll see the video there too got a good forum going on there. But It's some high level stuff and GAMES
[00:18] <manokara> oh yea, GAMES \o/
[00:18] <manokara> not much of a gamer tho, just play casually
[00:19] <watsoncomputers> I am running Ubuntu-desktop on this machine and loving it. Gave the USB stick to a friend and he installed it dual boot on his windows machine right from the usb.
[00:20] <watsoncomputers> Now he's diving into ubuntu
[00:20] <manokara> awesome :D
[00:21] <watsoncomputers> Yea, but I think Unity is a challenge for his hardware he says it's a bit slow
[00:21] <watsoncomputers> so I was looking for lighter weight desktops
[00:21] <manokara> in my case I didn't like unity look very much, and it was very buggy in the past
[00:21] <manokara> maybe it is stable now
[00:22] <manokara> if you really want lightweight desktops and don't care too much about effects and such, lxde or xfce are good ones
[00:22] <watsoncomputers> Knock on wood 14.10 is working well on and AMD Fusion e351 cpu
[00:24] <watsoncomputers> my baby rig, I am building a multi-media production pc and Need a reliable desktop
[00:24] <manokara> i see
[00:24] <watsoncomputers> Maybe Unity is it or something else but I've only really seen 3 so far
[00:25] <manokara> maybe KDE
[00:26] <watsoncomputers> Krita, and kdenlive run on this box so I just wanted a lighter desktop if possible
[00:27] <watsoncomputers> Thing is If logan uses it then It must be the real shit, cause he already has Adobe and windows
[00:29] <watsoncomputers> And it's his full time job on youtube
[00:29] <manokara> it's all about hardware
[00:30] <manokara> when I went to the store buy the pieces for this box, I had to be very selective to see parts linux compatible
[00:30] <manokara> if I got home and it didn't work, well, it'd be bad :P
[00:31] <manokara> I had a Radeon 7790 first, bought a GTX 650 to use CUDA with Blender
[00:31] <manokara> but then, the cuda kernel doesn't compile
[00:31] <manokara> haha
[00:32] <manokara> but this card is more stable than the other one, so it's ok
[00:33] <manokara> i'm watching the vid now, that's a nice rig
[00:33] <watsoncomputers> I am very concerned with that too but I am committed to amd 970 chipset mb,  FX-9590 cpu, SSD's and at least 8T of HD storage. Two hot swappable drive bays
[00:34] <manokara> :o
[00:35] <watsoncomputers> Looking at Sapphire 8gig 970x Vapor X
[00:35] <manokara> i think i'll make some money selling games on steam and upgrade my box :P
[00:35] <watsoncomputers> That's a safe bet, like porn, games sell
[00:35] <manokara> yep
[00:35] <watsoncomputers> be an indi developer and make a name for your self
[00:36] <manokara> that's what i am planning
[00:36] <watsoncomputers> Logan promotes indi games alot
[00:36] <manokara> i went to 3 part time job interviews, and didn't pass in any of them :/
[00:36] <watsoncomputers> Join the forum
[00:37] <watsoncomputers> You may find some eger alpha testers on the linux forum
[00:37] <manokara> I wanted to make games for the 3 platforms, but I haven't had much success setting up a Mac VM
[00:37] <watsoncomputers> No worries mate, Go to www.workmarket.com and get a gig
[00:37] <manokara> that's because I have AMD cpu
[00:38] <watsoncomputers> you work for your self
[00:38] <manokara> hmm, it seems interesting
[00:38] <watsoncomputers> like linux, small learning curve to make yourself known
[00:40] <manokara> but I need to keep up to date with what's going on if I wanted to still be known
[00:40] <watsoncomputers>  but I have been paying the bills the last 4 yrs and it helps being indi to have something coming in you can count on even if it' like part time but pay's like full time.
[00:40] <manokara> what do you work with? games?
[00:41] <watsoncomputers> I do hardware integration, networking, windows obviously
[00:41] <watsoncomputers> don't know a lick of code
[00:41] <manokara> hmm, nice
[00:42] <manokara> I know some code but I need the will to actually finish something, hehe
[00:42] <manokara> the good and old procrastination
[00:42] <watsoncomputers> hey xauth: file /home/ubuntu-gnome/.Xauthority does not exist
[00:43] <watsoncomputers> I typed in --help after startx and got that before the usage screen
[00:44] <manokara> this doesn't seem critical
[00:44] <manokara> still nothing?
[00:46] <watsoncomputers> well I was looking to see what options if any I might have with startx
[00:47] <manokara> commonly one does it like this: startx -- :0 (or :1)
[00:47] <watsoncomputers> some I get -fs size -fi fontname
[00:48] <manokara> those two are for the raw X environment I believe
[00:48] <watsoncomputers> ok
[00:49] <watsoncomputers> let's try
[00:49] <manokara> i'll have to be afk for a bit, good luck there o/
[00:50] <watsoncomputers> ok thanks
[01:18] <darkxst> watsoncomputers, the live cd's dont use grub
[01:18] <darkxst> if you hit a key at the very first screen
[01:19] <darkxst> you should be able to select some boot options with one of the F keys
[01:20] <darkxst> possibly F6
[01:38] <watsoncomputers> Yes, I did f6 nomodeset and got a blank desktop but it had a number 3 in the upper left corner so using settings display I combined them and now have a functioning desktop
[01:39] <watsoncomputers> just getting use to moving around in it, I did find tweek tools
[01:40] <watsoncomputers> a lot to learn about moving  around
[01:40] <watsoncomputers> and the tweeks them selves
[18:10] <smallfoot-> Anyone working on getting GNOME Shell to work on Ubuntu?
[18:10] <smallfoot-> You can install the gnome-session-wayland package
[19:06] <ahoneybun> darkxst: hey who is the person who works on your guys slideshow in ubiquity?
[20:24] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone else here running 15.04?  I'm having a randomly occurring issue where a window grabs focus and won't let go - the only way to get to a window behind it is to control + alt + arrow to another workspace and then alt-tab back into the original workspace.
[21:16] <Noskcaj> smallfoot-, Doesn't gnome-shell work now?
[21:45] <smallfoot-> Noskcaj, it did work some week ago when using Upstart. Then Ubuntu transitioned to systemd. Since then, I haven't gotten it to work.
[21:45] <smallfoot-> $ sudo apt-get install gnome-session-wayland
[21:46] <smallfoot-> $ gnome-session --session=gnome-wayland
[21:46] <smallfoot-> $ service gdm start
[21:55] <smallfoot-> Anyone can run GNOME on Wayland on Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet?
[22:11] <darkxst> smallfoot I'm not aware of any issues caused by the systemd transition
[22:13] <darkxst> smallfoot-, just select the "gnome on wayland" session from gdm
[22:50] <smallfoot-> darkxst, when I start Ubuntu (not Ubuntu-GNOME) what starts is LightDM
[22:50] <smallfoot-> However, I can type "service gdm start" to start gdm, but then GDM kinda freezes and i cant use it
[22:51] <darkxst> smallfoot-, dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:52] <smallfoot-> thanks