[00:25] <daftykins> http://twitch.tv/daftpunkle
[00:25] <daftykins> Ori and the Blind Forest
[00:26] <nickerSLAVEgg> #uk unable to join channel (invite only)
[00:26] <nickerSLAVEgg> did farage won the elections already?
[00:27] <daftykins> politics doesn't belong online
[04:06] <mapp> yo
[04:20] <zmoylan-pi> allo allo
[04:21] <mapp> :)
[04:21] <mapp> the following time for me:D
[04:52] <mapp> watching anything?
[04:54] <zmoylan-pi> listening to podcasts
[04:55] <mapp> ah
[04:55] <mapp> i always find it hard to keep up with podcasts
[04:55] <mapp> do you have your laptop/phone/tablet - assuming you have a tablet all synchronised
[04:56] <zmoylan-pi> then star trek 6, the undiscovered country.  shakespeare is better in the original klingon...
[04:56] <mapp> you listen to any tech podcasts?
[04:56] <mapp> apart from ubuntu podcast assuming you listen to it
[04:58] <zmoylan-pi> i have a cheap asus 7" tablet and use podkicker to download and listen to podcasts.  linux voice, raspberry pi today, tech news today, technews tonight, dick turpin road show, this week in tech, ubuntu podcast
[05:50] <mapp> thats better
[05:50] <mapp> my net had gone super slow
[07:05] <knightwise> morning everyone !
[07:15] <mapp> sleepy time for me
[07:15] <mapp> ;D
[08:54] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:55] <directhex> howdy
[09:03] <TwistedLucidity> Ah-hoy-hoy
[09:10] <bashrc_> good morning
[10:10] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Submarine Day! :-D
[10:12] <zmoylan-pi> the modern version of which was invented by an irish man.  paddies day \o/
[10:15] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, it's not as much fun if you go for the ones *everyone* celebrates. ;)
[10:16]  * zmoylan-pi wonders if it's banned anywhere important...
[10:17] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: Well, it was celebrated in Dubai.
[10:17] <TwistedLucidity> Mostly by expats, but not exclusively
[10:18] <davmor2> JamesTait: man now I want to take a trip to subway
[10:18] <foobarry> paddys day at uni was hilarious
[10:18] <foobarry> loads of people getting wasted and claiming some irish heritage
[10:18] <foobarry> by hilarious i mean lame
[10:19] <zmoylan-pi> shhh, good money to be made on tourists...
[10:20] <TwistedLucidity> No need for heritage - just have a few and then fall over. Everyone is the same when horizontal and incoherent.
[10:20] <foobarry> :-| was my wifes face last night when i came home with a few hundred magazines
[10:20] <foobarry> they are already regulated to under the sofa where the mouse lives
[10:20] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: How many rounds?
[10:20] <foobarry> reading not firing :P
[10:20] <foobarry> old magz take half the time to read because you don't read the news sections
[10:21] <TwistedLucidity> I have so many magazine piling up it's untrue.
[10:21] <foobarry> i want to scan them
[10:21] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:21] <foobarry> they are mostly airplane modelling magz so the content doesn't really go out of date
[10:21] <foobarry> the guy bought about 5 mags a month over the last few years
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> oh look a new model spitfire...
[10:22]  * JamesTait acquired an Airfix model spitfire on Saturday.
[10:22] <TwistedLucidity> Hmmm...scan...OCR...wonder if some magic can auto-detect the pictures and drop them out as PNGs...
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> it is the starter piece of all model collections :-)
[10:23] <JamesTait> Well, an airfield including a Spitfire, actually - and two trucks.
[10:23] <TwistedLucidity> WARNING: JamesTait is planning to invade! He's bought his own airforce
[10:23] <foobarry> nice, are you gonna make it?
[10:24] <JamesTait> And technically it's not mine, it's my youngest's. But, y'know, acrylic cement, acrylic paints.  The boy will need some help. ;)
[10:24] <JamesTait> foobarry, we started it on Sunday.
[10:25] <JamesTait> We have a pilot and a seat painted, and the pilot glued to his seat.
[10:25] <JamesTait> I spent more time trying to find the bits he'd "helpfully" removed from the packaging framework than I did actually building.
[10:26] <foobarry> paint small parts while on the sprue
[10:27] <foobarry> how old is the youngling?
[10:27] <JamesTait> But I think after a couple of hours he'd come to understand that parts are numbered and need to stay attached until we need them, that you paint small parts before you try to use them, and that paint takes a few minutes to dry. ;)
[10:27] <JamesTait> He's 8.
[10:27] <JamesTait> Going on 18.
[10:27] <foobarry> also if you use the supplied mini pots of paint, they suck a bit and needs a few thin coats
[10:28] <foobarry> its a great father/son hobby
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> A time of real bonding
[10:28] <foobarry> heh
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> Which often entails a visit to ER
[10:28] <JamesTait> Haha!
[10:28] <TwistedLucidity> To get de-bonded
[10:28] <JamesTait> I see what you did there. :-P
[10:29] <foobarry> this is a good video to watch if you use the supplied paint pots
[10:29] <foobarry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDQGtAIlXuE
[10:29] <foobarry> don't rip stuff from the sprue like the video though, they are sort of making a vid of how to make a model using only the supplied bits in a starter set
[10:30] <foobarry> hence no wire cutters
[10:30] <davmor2> JamesTait: thats wrong mentally men should never get beyond 8 ;)  oh shiny, oh lego, oh toys, oh computers....and so on :)  That why we get married right so we have someone to say no :D
[10:31] <foobarry> JamesTait: this set? http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/raf-battle-of-britain-airfield-gift-set-1-76.html
[10:31] <JamesTait> foobarry, that's the one. :)
[10:32] <foobarry> cool
[10:32] <JamesTait> davmor2, our toys just get more expensive as we get older.
[10:32] <foobarry> to do the grass bank, you also need white glue and scatter grass like this, applied through a sieve http://www.newmodellersshop.co.uk/images/javis/jft2_mid_green_fine_turf_premier_range.jpg
[10:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: that and more easily justified but I work hard to earn all the money I spent on it :D
[10:33] <JamesTait> foobarry, we should have some of that spare from his big brother's model railway. :)
[10:33] <foobarry> perfect
[10:33] <Myrtti> hihi, expensive toys. I just received a nail curing UV LED oven. "oops"
[10:34] <Myrtti> just need to top up on my high-SPF sun lotions
[10:34] <davmor2> Myrtti: that sounds so wrong, admittedly wifey has one already
[10:34] <zmoylan-pi> and are now looking up other uses for it on geek sites to justify buying it :-)
[10:35] <foobarry> liek removing the glass screen from a tablet/phone
[10:35] <foobarry> hairdryer does the same though
[10:37] <davmor2> Myrtti: now you need to buy the special nail gels for it too ;)
[10:37] <Myrtti> davmor2: already done, fortunately I don't need that many
[10:37] <foobarry> After years spent resisting the idea of adapting its hugely popular back catalogue of games for smartphones, Nintendo finally announces that it will be releasing titles for mobile devices.
[10:39] <Myrtti> davmor2: all I need is base and top coats and two colours. http://www.amazon.co.uk/OPI-Gel-Color-Samoan-Lacquer/dp/B0076UUHGO/ and http://www.amazon.co.uk/OPI-Gel-Color-Alpine-Lacquer/dp/B0076UI39M
[10:43] <foobarry> asked my wife about carbon needles, she says she prefers bamboo
[10:43] <foobarry> her next project will involve a dressmakers mannequin :( no room in the house
[10:45] <zmoylan-pi> so nintendo is finally going to put their crown jewels on other peoples hardware.  that must have hurt
[10:46] <davmor2> Myrtti: wifey got hers as a set from qvc
[10:46] <foobarry> wow
[10:46] <foobarry> QVC
[10:47] <foobarry> that channel amuses me
[11:04] <TwistedLucidity> BBC's MircoBit - good idea, or MS trojan horse to ruin the next generation of coders?
[11:06] <TwistedLucidity> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/16/naked_computers_bbc_micro_coding_cc/
[11:07] <zmoylan-pi> i'm leaning towards a way to hurt rasp pi
[11:08] <bashrc_> instead of inspiring children to learn programming, why not just teach it as a subject in school, like English?
[11:08] <zmoylan-pi> but if it's ide is unavailable to linux it won't take off outside the educational market
[11:09] <bashrc_> of the source code is secret then that's obviously a fail straight out of the gate
[11:10] <ali1234> it's an arm chip on a board
[11:10] <ali1234> it's not even an SBC
[11:10] <foobarry> NIH syndrome by PHBosses
[11:11] <TwistedLucidity> It's intended to be programmed from a main PC (e.g. via MS's TouchDevelop), then do whatever it was told to do.
[11:11] <TwistedLucidity> Ship some Arduino with good materials. Job done.
[11:11] <ali1234> arduino is crap and expensive though
[11:12] <zmoylan-pi> there are arduino clones that are cheap
[11:12] <ali1234> i doubt the BBC can afford $20 per kid
[11:12] <TwistedLucidity> I think they are trying to recapture that BBC Micro days....just don't think this is the way.
[11:12] <ali1234> yes, arduino clones... like this one
[11:12] <TwistedLucidity> And certainly *not* in partnership with the likes of MS or Samsung.
[11:12] <ali1234> this will be a cortex M0 part
[11:12] <ali1234> you won't be running linux on it, it will likely have about 32kb of ram
[11:13] <TwistedLucidity> Yes, I know that.
[11:13] <foobarry> rasp pi captured the bbc micro days
[11:13] <ali1234> and total BOM of about £2
[11:13] <zmoylan-pi> didn't someone get linux running on an 8bit chip? :-)
[11:13] <ali1234> yes after connecting it to a 32MB SIMM
[11:13] <ali1234> and writing an ARMv6 emulator
[11:13] <foobarry> so the micro bit is useful only to display the floor number in a lift?
[11:13] <zmoylan-pi> shhh, you're ruining the dream :-)
[11:14] <ali1234> foobarry: not at all, i think it's a really nice design
[11:14] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Just about. It's got some LEDs and few switches. No GPIO or anything AFAIK
[11:14] <ali1234> i'd prefer it was AVR based, it's just nicer to program than ARM
[11:15] <ali1234> on board bluetooth is good too
[11:15] <ali1234> although that might disappear from the final version
[11:15] <ali1234> since it will likely double the cost due to patents
[11:15] <ali1234> although maybe that's why they have so many partners
[11:33] <awilkins> On board bluetooth? It's a comm-badge
[11:34] <awilkins> Look at those connective thread sewable contacts round the edge
[12:12] <daftykins> morn
[12:12] <daftykins> or at least, the first time i hopped on IRC :>
[12:12] <bashrc_> evening
[12:13] <daftykins> if you must :)
[12:13] <daftykins> hmm naughty DCC spammers overnight i see
[12:19] <daftykins> i may enquire about prices for plotters today, seems to be a multi-grand affair
[12:20] <ali1234> you can get a 50W c02 laser cutter for less than that
[12:21] <daftykins> :)
[12:29] <awilkins> Just burn your design through a template and silk-screen it
[12:31] <davmor2> czajkowski: just to check it's patty day right?
[12:32] <czajkowski> davmor2: I will slap you
[12:33] <davmor2> czajkowski: again
[12:34] <davmor2> czajkowski: is that a no?
[12:36] <czajkowski> indeed
[12:40] <daftykins> methinks he likes the punishment
[12:40] <daftykins> :>
[12:58] <davmor2> daftykins: no but I do like to think of czajkowski sat rocking in the corner screaming it's Paddy's not patty's
[13:05] <czajkowski> git
[13:05] <foobarry> pull
[13:12] <davmor2> czajkowski: pleasure
[13:13] <DJones> davmor2: But it is "patty" isn't it, everybody I know called "Patrick" gets their name shortened to "Patty"
[13:13] <DJones> (Admitedly, its only a sample of 1)
[13:14] <foobarry> i remember pakky bonner the goalie
[13:14] <foobarry> packie
[13:14] <foobarry> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packie_Bonner
[13:14] <davmor2> DJones: czajkowski head will explode is you say that again :)
[13:15] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Now there's a nickname that could start a fight in the wrong place....
[13:15] <foobarry> used to get confused when i was a kid
[13:15] <foobarry> before those internet days
[13:15] <foobarry> the long arguments over whether the commentator was saying packie or patty or paddy
[13:16] <DJones> davmor2: The guy I'm thinking of even has "patty" in his twitter nick
[13:16] <foobarry> peppermint patty
[13:19] <foobarry> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/3doodler-3d-printing-pen-n00ds
[13:19] <foobarry> did popey get one of these?
[13:20] <foobarry> did they change the world?
[13:33] <awilkins> Did you see this one? http://t.co/Vl4JP5bjPI
[13:34] <awilkins> The *detail* it does (from looking at the electron micrographs at the end)
[13:36] <foobarry> wow
[13:38] <TwistedLucidity> awilkins: What's the point of that? Everything you make will be upside down!
[13:39] <TwistedLucidity> Guess it might sell well in the antipodes. (Groans)
[13:42] <foobarry> how long does http://www.oxfam.org.uk/shop take to load?
[13:42] <foobarry> trying to work out if there's a problem here or not
[13:45] <popey> foobarry: i do
[13:49] <foobarry> did it change your life?
[13:49] <foobarry> or.. have you enjoyed using it
[13:50] <popey> my life changed a bit
[13:50] <popey> in that there's a new thing in it
[13:50] <davmor2> popey: hahaha
[13:51] <foobarry> its a great gimmick but ultimately pointless
[13:51] <foobarry> nice craft idea but not for £70
[14:05] <daftykins> ugh my goverment is so useless
[14:06] <foobarry> mine is great
[14:06] <foobarry> oh wait..
[14:06] <daftykins> trying to wipe an iPad someone i know was given for use, now she has to give it back... i was told i could go up there and get it done, turn up - 'nope, sorry... i'm just a trainee and the guy that knows these things is at lunch'
[14:07] <foobarry> they need a wiki
[14:07] <foobarry> and someone to document stuff
[14:07] <daftykins> pretty simple to enact a device wipe via Exchange
[14:07] <daftykins> heh :>
[14:22] <davmor2> daftykins: and you think your government is different to everyone elses why
[14:22] <daftykins> :)
[14:22] <daftykins> 'cause it's small, hard to misplace things :D
[15:05] <popey> Azelphur: got a link to your funky conky config thing with a laptop wireframe?
[16:08] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[16:13] <bashrc_> morning
[16:13] <bashrc_> time zone appropriate greetings
[16:15] <bigcalm> UGT
[16:16] <davmor2> bashrc: it's always morning on the T'interwebz
[16:21] <daftykins> and what a glorious morning indeed
[17:03] <awilkins> Another hospital in Special Measures
[17:04]  * awilkins watches the dominos fall
[17:04] <bashrc_> special measures?
[17:05] <daftykins> shaking up the management to meet targets i think
[17:05] <awilkins> As in "Oh dear, you seem to be having a little financial trouble, we must intervene!"
[17:06] <bashrc_> I don't really get how hospitals get into financial trouble. They're publicly funded
[17:06] <awilkins> Because they're publicly underfunded
[17:06] <bashrc_> heh
[17:06] <awilkins> Because it's in the Tory interest to make them fail so they can introduce private services
[17:07] <awilkins> It's Disaster Capitalism, only the disaster isn't a hurricane or  a war, it's austerity
[17:08] <bashrc_> if health goes private then we can look to America to see what happens: low quality service which is incredibly expensive with ridiculous insurance schemes
[17:09] <awilkins> An excess of service with no clinical justification because you can make money off it
[17:10] <bashrc_> bogus diseases with expensive "cures"
[17:10] <awilkins> It's nuts. We have one of the best healthcare systems of the G8 nations (as rated by a right-wing thinktank in Washington, DC)
[17:10] <awilkins> best == outcomes AND economic efficiency
[17:11] <awilkins> We spend the least per capita
[17:11] <bashrc_> but not efficiency in terms of generating capital for share holders!
[17:11] <awilkins> I think Cuba beats us but that's because they're communists
[17:11] <awilkins> Exactly
[17:12] <awilkins> Occam's Razor : if we're the best, the only reason to change our system to resemble the others more is because efficiency and patient outcomes are not at the forefront of the minds of those doing the changing
[17:12] <awilkins> What do they have more of? Profit margins.
[17:50] <davmor2> One is the loneliest number that you'll every do
[17:53] <daftykins> grammar?
[17:54] <bigcalm> Do you know it?
[17:55] <davmor2> ever then :P
[17:56] <davmor2> bigcalm: Of course I know it Harry Nilsson
[17:57] <davmor2> There is a house in New Orleans
[17:58] <daftykins> They call, "The Rising Sun"
[17:58] <shauno> oh boy.  last time I was in bratislava, there was a british woman old enough to be my mother, belting that out in a pub.  all on her own.
[17:59] <daftykins> http://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/16/retina-macbook-pro-stained-coating/ http://www.staingate.org/
[17:59] <daftykins> my mother sings, too
[17:59] <daftykins> :D
[18:02] <davmor2> http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/mar/14/why-blade-runner-is-timeless
[18:02] <daftykins> it sure is
[18:02] <daftykins> <3 Vangelis (the soundtrack)
[18:03] <davmor2> seem like Cinemas will be showing it again for the 25 anniversary \o/
[18:05] <awilkins> Is it the newest Ridley Scott Special Edition?
[18:05] <awilkins> Cinemas will no doubt be showing it again to drum up demand for the sequel too
[18:06] <daftykins> bit early surely
[18:07] <davmor2> more to tie in with the 25 anniversary and then tie in with the sequel probablyt
[18:07] <davmor2> -t
[18:08] <diddledan> "simple" iphone pin lock unlocker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meEyYFlSahk
[18:11] <daftykins> you just have to... pop it open. hmm.
[18:11] <zmoylan-pi> well did apple say it was secure or 'secure'?
[18:11] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: it's 'locked'
[18:12] <zmoylan-pi> 'locked' or locked? :-)
[18:15] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYcrYXqnoN0
[18:16] <daftykins> except your own home when you have no keys
[18:18] <zmoylan-pi> that's why you have a porn buddy.  someone with a spare key for when you croak.
[18:19] <diddledan> porn buddy? as in a friend to watch porn with?
[18:23] <zmoylan-pi> you've never seen the british comedy coupling...
[18:25] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.snotr.com/video/3806/Porn_Buddies wow took a while to find a video
[18:26] <davmor2> Hello darkness my old friend
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> of course now the protocol is updated to remove all internet history too :-)
[18:27] <diddledan> it's a perk
[18:27] <diddledan> lol
[18:27] <intrbiz> davmor2: I've come to meet with you again
[18:27] <zmoylan-pi> find and watch that show.  you will thank me... :-)
[18:27] <diddledan> davmor2: lucky you
[18:28] <zmoylan-pi> but the last season without jeff isn't great :-(
[18:28] <diddledan> :-(
[18:29] <davmor2> intrbiz: you really shouldn't know these song that well :)
[18:29] <ali1234> well he got the lyric wrong so there's that
[18:29] <intrbiz> davmor2: by coincidence I was just listening to it
[18:30] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: of course who's to say the pages haven't suffered some form of adhesive contact fate
[18:30] <intrbiz> ali1234: yeh, it's talk
[18:30] <davmor2> intrbiz: you might like the album silence is golden then :)
[18:36] <daftykins> ta-ra peeps, time for food ahead of pub quiz night \o/
[18:36] <diddledan> curry?
[18:37] <diddledan> :-p
[18:37] <daftykins> yes! chinese chicken curry, a fine co-op microwave affair
[18:37] <daftykins> for the rapid exit :)
[18:37] <diddledan> yey
[18:37] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4u0awsl9cnxqql/IMG_20150317_132648.jpg?dl=0
[18:37] <daftykins> my cat made a fort
[18:39] <zmoylan-pi> well took posession of by the looks of it
[19:09] <davmor2> intrbiz: all the leaves are brown
[19:14] <diddledan> davmor2: and the sky is grey?
[19:15] <davmor2> diddledan: yeah but you are old you should know it ;)
[19:15] <diddledan> lol
[19:25] <davmor2> diddledan: just for you "There must be some kinda way outta here"
[19:26] <diddledan> I recognise it but can't place it
[19:26] <davmor2> diddledan: said the joker to the thief
[19:27] <davmor2> diddledan: All along the watchtower Jimi Hendrix
[19:27] <diddledan> gotcha
[19:48] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/3bVXPSE.jpg
[19:49] <foobarry> my favouriteclue on only connect that i've seen
[19:57] <diddledan> foobarry: what was the question?
[19:58] <diddledan> foobarry: I'd probably get it wrong by saying "my sequel" instead of "my ess queue ell"
[19:58] <intrbiz> diddledan: you'd need to watch only connect to know there isn't a question
[20:54] <mapp> ah
[20:54] <mapp> the handyness of living next to a supermarket
[20:54] <mapp> 15mins shopped paid packed home
[20:54] <mapp> :D
[20:54] <Azelphur> popey: https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=4b3b801b17886f6c100da703f76f0395
[21:43] <foobarry> got a screenshot Azelphur ?
[21:47] <Azelphur> foobarry: https://owncloud.azelphur.com/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=553eddabfeaca770f463cfc6b7b4d1c2
[21:47] <foobarry> much CSI
[21:48] <foobarry> did you make steal or tweak?
[21:48] <Azelphur> I made the whole thing
[21:48] <foobarry> its great
[21:48] <Azelphur> thanks :)
[21:49] <Azelphur> the laptop is actually a photo of my laptop that I went over with the line tool in GIMP
[21:52] <foobarry> i would +1 the heck out of that on g+
[21:52] <foobarry> https://www.paradoxplaza.com/cities-skylines?___store=gb
[21:52] <foobarry> simcity killer runs on linux!?
[21:53] <foobarry> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/maxis-is-dead-but-this-game-is-better-than-simcity
[22:05] <shauno> that's where I've been the last few days :(
[22:09] <shauno> so far it's everything we hope simcity would be, except multiplayer & EA
[22:11] <ali1234> cities in motion 2 had multiplayer
[22:13] <shauno> yeah.  just saying skylines doesn't (yet? I haven't heard that they're planning on it either)
[22:13] <ali1234> i don't have it yet
[22:13] <ali1234> looks good but £22 is more than i'm willing to pay for a game
[22:13] <shauno> but skylines is a full-on city builder, cim you just built the transport network while the city grew itself around you
[22:15] <shauno> well, I think if you're a fan of the genre, it goes on the "things to watch for in the next steam sale" list
[23:06] <directhex> skylines is a unity3d game (!)
[23:48] <diddledan> why is it that in movies american tv studios always have a helicopter in the air in whatever city the film happens to be based in
[23:56] <zmoylan-pi> because in america the military offloads a lot of helicopters when they want shiny new ones