[04:33] More almal [04:37] Goeiemore al die vroeë voëltjies [04:39] Helo Langjan lyk my ons is net 2 [04:43] Goeiemore oom Kilos [04:43] lol [04:44] more oom [04:44] ek lees nou net jou pos [04:44] het jy lrekker geslaap seuntjie? [04:44] lekker [04:44] so aan en af ja dankie en self? [04:45] sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda [04:45] Allietyd af [04:45] ek weet nie wat doen dit nie ek kyk ook [04:45] hi Tonberry [04:45] hi [04:46] o dit wys jou partisies [04:47] Ek het twee gekry, die een is sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda en die ander cat /dev/zero > zero.file rm zero.file [04:47] nog nie een probeer nie [04:47] wag vir die deskundiges om op te staan [04:48] wag ek kyk watter een het ek [04:48] dis n dd een [04:48] miskien iets by [04:48] nou moet jy mooi luister [04:49] eks die ene ore [04:49] you boot from cd [04:50] go into try mode [04:50] run this command [04:50] O ek dag ek kan net via terminal doen? [04:50] dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 [04:50] luister mooi [04:51] moet ek eers op CD boot? [04:51] ya [04:51] ok wag bietjie [04:51] daai dd commands is gevaarlik [04:52] jy moet versigtig met hulle werk [04:55] hi mazal and morning everyone else [04:55] Morning everyone [04:55] In Kubuntu , what app can I use to view my HDD smart data ? [04:56] sjoe [04:56] what is that [04:56] how do you view it with unity [04:57] Normal ubuntu has an app called "disks" [04:57] i have installed gnome-disk-utility i think its called [04:57] it also shows as disks [04:57] I think that is the same thing , I might be wrong though [04:57] or drives i forget now [04:58] ya its the one unity uses [04:58] but not in kde by default [04:58] Not sudo in front Kilos? [04:58] ya with sudo [04:59] sorry i saved it as i found it [04:59] did it say you dont have permission [04:59] hehe [05:00] nou oom Langjan you must still listen [05:00] let me first tell all before you do the next step [05:00] Yeo Kilos , that's the one thanx. Installed it [05:01] once the zero command has run [05:01] Now its hanging in the terminal on CD [05:01] hasnt it done the job? [05:02] I got to the first d of the second dev and it stopped there [05:02] bbl , updates [05:03] oh my [05:03] what second device [05:03] will have to reboot again [05:03] wait [05:03] there is only one drive in there [05:03] ?? [05:03] no second device, the second "dev" in the command you sent [05:04] oh my [05:04] only one drive as far as I know [05:04] ok try again [05:04] ok [05:13] Langjan whats happening [05:14] OK it says 1+0 records in, 1+0 records out, 512 bytes copied 254kB/s [05:15] cools now its wiped [05:15] now listen mooi [05:15] dont do things as i type them [05:16] can't listen mooi in two tales [05:16] lol [05:16] restart with dvd still in and choose install [05:16] then choose use entire disk [05:16] then go with you normal install method [05:17] let ubuntu do everything [05:17] you just put your info and passwords etc [05:17] the bios will rewrite a new mbr [05:18] You want to tell me it wiped clean in a second? [05:18] yip [05:18] Amazing stuff! [05:18] very powerful command [05:19] Can we use it on the population? [05:19] lol [05:20] now there is really nothing more on the drive left over from other installs [05:21] so if prob continues then we repartition it and dont use the first 30 or 50g [05:21] waat maak julle ? Klink gevaarlik [05:21] zero n skyf [05:21] dd ? [05:21] ya [05:21] ish !!!! [05:22] Kilos it is showing a split screen [05:22] hymm... [05:22] maybe restart again? Could my installation CD be haywire? [05:22] not normally [05:23] restart again [05:23] ok [05:24] you can use the checkdisk option but dvds dont normally get corrupt so easy [05:25] I restarted without CD, Ubuntu is still there [05:25] choose erase and install again [05:25] entire disk [05:26] Ok, I thought the disc is wiped clean...restarting on CD [05:27] ya disk was clean booting from cd shows what the os installs into memory [05:28] What I dont understand is that Ubuntu booted normally after disc was wiped [05:29] from hard drive [05:29] wipe it again [05:29] actually lets do two things [05:30] boot from cd [05:30] run gparted [05:30] ok booting [05:30] from try ubuntu? [05:30] ya [05:31] is gparted a terminal command and no sudo? [05:31] type gparted in the dash thing [05:31] it should be on the cd [05:31] ok [05:32] just waiting for boot to complete [05:32] ok [05:32] i need to start other pc so i can see gparted [05:33] shows dev sda 1,2 and 5 [05:34] click on each and the tick partition at the top i think then choose erase [05:39] not erase it shows delete [05:39] sorry had to install gparted on other machinr=e first [05:41] No prob, now it shows 231Gb unallocated and two small partitions, 1,7Gb each, one is extended and one swap [05:41] both with keys that seem to indicate locked [05:42] delete them as well [05:42] you want to see only one [05:43] It does not give a delete optin on these [05:43] what info is on them? [05:44] maybe thats where your bug is hiding [05:44] you should be able to delete everything and just see one unused partition [05:45] OK I have deleted them all now it shows 233GB unallocated [05:45] click on gparted and choose refresh [05:45] yay [05:46] now close gparted and only have terminal open [05:46] ok done [05:46] ok now the dd command [05:47] ok [05:47] i dont trust myself to type it out, i put it on a stick and then copy paste from there [05:49] ok done [05:49] ok now leave the cd in and restart and choose install [05:50] then in options choose use entire disk [05:50] fine [05:56] Looking good, no detected operating systems [05:57] yay [05:59] The old man is getting confused, caught mself trying to type the new pasword into xchat, lmga [06:00] OK Kilos, baie baie dankie! I will complete install and install home from backup, everything will hopefully be fine, will let you know [06:00] lol [06:01] ok Langjan you welcome as always [06:01] good luck [06:03] Many thanks. Have I sent you the book "Healing Life's Hurts" to read? Its the guy who owns the laptop who does the ministry. [06:03] ty so much [06:03] Will email it now, have a lovely day [06:04] you too my friend and ty === Guest23440 is now known as Webtricity [06:40] sigh! the old peeps work while the young ones lurk [07:27] môre Mopkop [07:35] Goeie môre! [07:40] o/ [07:45] Kilos and the guys who helped, many thanks. [07:46] The machine is running at cpu usage of 10% (previously 90%) - what are sensible warning temperatures for the temp, core temp and cpu temp? [07:46] Sorry previously 60% [07:47] Langjan is it ok now? [07:47] that sounds much better hey [07:48] hi gremble [07:48] Langjan tell me how you are sensing temps and ill tell you mine [07:50] temp 1 is 45, core 1 is 44, core 2 is 43 but where should I set warnings at? [08:01] http://askubuntu.com/questions/432895/temperature-warnings [08:02] hope that helps. [08:02] i cant find what they should be set at [08:06] Thks Kilos. If I change the wording to "quiet" to omit splash screen, how do I save the changes and exit the terminal? [08:07] let me go read that first [08:15] ok Langjan is psensor running in a terminal [08:16] sorry i was so slow got called to #ubuntu-africa [08:16] you may visit there , its a project im busy with [08:20] if you want to kill it use ctrl+c [08:21] im not sure where you are with the splash screen thing [08:23] morning [08:23] hi Squirm [08:23] Morning squirm [08:24] * mazal has never been able to get temp sensors working on Ubuntu [08:24] Kilos: You know how to do it ? [08:24] http://superuser.com/questions/25176/how-can-i-monitor-the-cpu-temperature-under-linux [08:25] and jan is using psensor [08:32] Ah , that manual works , dankie oom [08:32] yw lad [08:32] psensor ? [08:32] Is that a different app ? [08:32] yes its also in the repos [08:33] I see mine is hovering around 40 [08:33] lappy? [08:34] Nope , is an i7 desktop pc [08:34] * Kilos jealous [08:48] Kilos: ai! [08:48] ai! wat nou? [08:48] your zeroing command does not wipe the whole drive [08:49] it did here [08:49] just the first 512 bytes [08:49] but i didnt have bugs in locked partitions [08:49] oh [08:49] well with gparted and zero things seem to be working [08:50] that's the MBR portion [08:50] why didnt you tell me last night [08:50] uh [08:50] you leave me to sukkel [08:51] you leave yourself to sukkel if you don't RTFS and RTFM [08:51] in future i will use gparted first then zero then i know als is skoon ne? [08:51] ai! [08:51] i dont have manuals and stuff here man i only have what has worked for me before [08:52] google is your buddy [08:52] and man is always there [08:52] reading is an effort and understanding what im reading is a bigger effort [08:52] good morning inetpro [08:52] keep reading until you understand it [08:52] how can you just greet me with an ai! [08:52] don't just shoot in the dark [08:53] ai! [08:53] goeie more oom [08:53] lol [08:53] dag my boetie [08:53] oh and good $daytime to everyone else [08:54] lekker full channel so early hey [08:54] is it Friday yet? [08:54] nono tuesday only [08:55] you just want weekends so you can get more tired [08:55] ai! [08:55] * inetpro needs a weekend to recover from the monday [08:55] you need mondays to recover from weekends [08:59] no!! not mondays [08:59] im so happy when you are here [08:59] * inetpro needs the week to recover from a weekend [09:00] now i just need to get my fly back [09:02] the end justifies the means [09:02] * inetpro needs to scratch mondays from all calendars [09:04] lol [09:08] hi psyatw [09:08] hi Kilos [09:08] nice to see that again [09:09] I am a bit more relaxed now, also at work [09:09] good [09:10] you guys being unhappy makes me unhappy because this channel suffers [09:18] Kilos I do this edit in terminal but then don't know how to save the changes: http://askubuntu.com/questions/529244/how-can-i-disable-both-the-boot-splash-and-messages-during-boot [09:19] yeah, at first I was quite busy with two months of training and after that I had to do a lot of work after my colleague left the company [09:20] are you using gedit Langjan [09:20] thankfully they've hired a few people now [09:20] hi Langjan [09:21] Langjan i use nano instead of gedit because i could never work out how to save quit with it either [09:21] hi Padroni [09:23] with nano you use ctrl+o to save, hit enter then ctrl+x to quit [09:25] https://help.gnome.org/users/gedit/stable/gedit-shortcut-keys.html.en [09:25] Langjan ^^ [09:32] Padroni whats with the hopping? [09:32] hi [09:32] my connection is screwed [09:32] lol [09:32] looks like [09:33] dont just sit there with a beer in hand man , fix it [09:34] watched a whole thing on home brewing last night i think it was [09:34] there is a new group that are making local homebrews for their area [09:35] i love beer, its good for killing flames when braaing and seems to add flavour to the meat [09:35] but very yucky to drink unless 90% lemonade [09:36] * Kilos has a question for old boere type peeps [09:37] why did they use those big round white roof nails in the old days [09:37] Seals better [09:37] commonly know as boerepampoen [09:37] Oh , those [09:37] lol [09:38] My first thought would be , wind [09:39] i dont know thats why im asking , is it that pumpkin needs a certain time to mature or something [09:57] hi drussell hows davey today [09:58] hi magellanic [09:58] and magespawn [09:58] hey [09:59] hi there all [09:59] Kilos 41 in the room [09:59] yeah [09:59] strange for a midweek morning hey [09:59] * Kilos happy [10:04] * drussell waves to Kilos [10:24] Bye for now everyone , enjoy the afternoon , God bless [10:27] hi pieter_devel [10:28] welcome to ubuntu-za [10:28] Hi [10:28] ... and thanks [10:28] how did you find us? [10:29] Long story trying to fix IRC... but in end LOCO site [10:30] if you need help just state your problem and someone will advise you when they get a break [10:30] Thanks will do [10:30] jy kan ook in die taal se waarmee jy hulp nodig het [10:31] Sal so maak, my afr suck maar [10:32] english is good too [10:32] i thought you were afrikaans thats why i said its ok too [10:33] I am, was just educated somewhat weirdly so my afr spelling is actually the thing that is bad [10:34] not a problem at all, the important thing is to get pc probs sorted out [10:34] soos jy sien is daar heelwat mense hier. en ons is amper dag en nag hier [10:36] this is an english channel because some of the guys dont know afrikaans at all, but when we get afrikaans peeps here we help them too [10:36] Met die IRC prbleem het ek op ou IRC log van 2012 afgekom [10:37] ok [10:37] Daar het jy, Kerbero en inetpro met 'n open proxy probleem gehelp [10:37] ... so sal dalk nou-nou hul help met iets gou vra [10:38] voel vry om te vra [11:31] pieter_devel: don't ask to ask, just ask [11:31] welcome to #ubuntu-za anyway [11:35] inetpro: Thanks, I cant join a freenode network thru my ISP - keep getting blocked because port 8080 is an open poxy... [11:36] ...I so far disabled my zentyal (server) proxy, but seems that prob is with ISP... [11:37] ... they use RouterOS with proxy enabled and from what I can gather they should just block port 8080 for external requests... [11:37] Is this correct? [11:41] Oh and the ISP is like a community shared internet provider so my external IP is their machine (no public IP)... [11:42] ...and running `nmap -p8080 ` also shows that it is an open proxy [11:49] hi jacques_ wb === jacques_ is now known as Jacques_StrY [11:50] lol was wondering if you gave up arguing [11:50] Hey everyone [11:50] good to be back [11:50] all ok ? [11:50] Yea don't worry [11:50] cool [11:51] so what happend while I was gone? [11:51] hmm... [11:51] youll need to ask someone that remembers [11:52] i think Padroni was looking for you [11:53] I can imagine - Have some stuff I have to post with him [11:53] lol [11:53] he has been sulking [11:54] haha [11:54] pieter_devel: ouch! [11:55] inetpro: ouch? [11:56] inetpro: I see you going from membership :) [11:56] open proxy not good [11:57] good heavens [11:57] it's alive [11:57] hi Jacques_StrY [11:57] hehe [11:57] Hey Padroni >.< [11:57] pieter_devel: https://freenode.net/policy.shtml#proxies [11:58] Jacques_StrY: I'm not exactly ready with my application just yet [11:58] Hi Kilos [11:58] too many other priorities in my life [11:58] hi Langjan [11:58] not good news [11:59] hanging? [11:59] looks to me like the cpu is not coping [11:59] eish [11:59] error message on first restart [11:59] it was working [11:59] what did you do [12:00] it sounds like your charger needs a new laptop? [12:00] haha [12:00] lol [12:00] inetpro: read it... so should contact freenode to lift the ban once fixed? [12:01] hi lin [12:01] well the restart/shut down button did not work so I powered off [12:01] pieter /j #freenode [12:01] pieter_devel: email to: support at freenode dot net [12:01] they are very helpful [12:01] or like Kilos said ^^ [12:02] then haywire again, cursor flashing, cpu showing 100%, lost launcher [12:03] sjoe Langjan [12:03] hi Kilos [12:04] Some of the error message reads: indicator-sound-service crashed with SIGABRT [12:04] does that mean anything? [12:04] Whats' up Langjan ? What made your computer lock up? [12:04] not too me but the clevers will know [12:06] Theres a lot in the report, dont know what they need [12:07] try get it onto a stick or something then with your pc put it all in http:slexy.org [12:07] http://slexy.org [12:07] OK thanks [12:08] good luck pieter_devel [12:08] and you can stay here [12:09] was the slexy message meant for me? [12:09] sorry Langjan yes [12:10] Kilos: you don't like http://bin.snyman.info/ ? [12:10] they read in the errors and find stuff we have nightmares about [12:10] inetpro it doesnt wrap when there are long lines [12:10] superfly: ^^ [12:11] is that a bug or a feature? [12:11] i use it for short line things [12:12] Kilos I could do nothing with the error report except hit "continue" then it obviously went off to nowhere and disappeard from the screen [12:12] is the lappy still running though? [12:13] maybe inetpro can find them [12:13] Its running but only just, with the cpu at around 100% I'm scared to touch anything [12:13] * inetpro unfortunately can't help now [12:14] lemme google a bit [12:15] * inetpro can only give the usual grumpy commentary from time to time in between other work [12:15] the open window is jumping sort-of getting bigger and smaller all the time - once per second [12:15] that looks like a bug [12:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/840986 [12:15] oom Langjan send a screenshot [12:19] Well kulelu88, the screen will appear normal on a shot, its just the open window and the cursor blinking all the time, but launcher icons not responding [12:19] Langjan 12.04 or 14.04 [12:19] ? [12:21] 14.04 [12:21] hmm... [12:22] ok whe you cleaned it out did you actually get to the cpu fan? [12:22] when [12:22] i dont know if they are on top of the cpu in lappies [12:23] I removed the fan to see if theres any dirt on the inside and underneath, it was surprisingly clean as was the rest of the innards [12:24] ok i was hoping it was blocked [12:24] the pc worked so something else is interfering i think [12:24] it may be a faulty Mobo [12:25] ya but why [12:25] unless. if the PC is 32-bit and you installed 64-bit [12:25] whats a Mobo? No all 32 bit [12:25] motherboard [12:26]