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bluesabreNoskcaj: thanks for the merge03:01
* bluesabre wonders if xfce4-session 4.12.1 will land in exp today, since he needs to rebuild -session anyway it seems, https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-announce/2015-March/000401.html10:38
flexiondotorgbluesabre, Have you experienced this? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/142666412:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1426664 in ubuntu-mate "14.04.2 LTS after booting to login page, get a white screen until i hit a mouse button" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:31
brainvvashincompatible gtk theme?12:32
flexiondotorgbrainvvash, Interesting idea.12:34
ochosiflexiondotorg: if you need hints, this is how we do it for the 2.0 version of the greeter (scroll back in git time to see what we had for 1.8 and below) https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/apps/lightdm-gtk-greeter.css12:55
flexiondotorgochosi, I've tried several themes. Same issue with all of them.12:56
elfyochosi: just in case you happen across things - dailies are fubar - known issues with that12:56
flexiondotorgelfy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-vesa/+bug/143289912:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1432899 in xserver-xorg-driver-vesa (Ubuntu) "VESA error: Cannot read int vect" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:56
elfyflexiondotorg: thanks12:57
flexiondotorgelfy, Confirm that one ;)12:58
elfybbl12:58
ochosiflexiondotorg: so it doesn't even work with greybird?13:03
ochosielfy: thanks! good to know13:03
flexiondotorgochosi, I'll test greybird.13:04
ochosiwell that's really the only theme you should test with :)13:04
flexiondotorgochosi, It is a bit limiting to have a themeable greeter that only work with one theme though ;)13:05
ochosihehe, well fix your themes then ;)13:06
ochosialso, it *should* look ok by default without any theming13:06
flexiondotorgochosi, Numix doesn't work. Ambiance doesn't work.13:06
ochosinumix should work too, it has pretty ok greeter support13:06
ochosiso i guess the conclusion to draw from that is that it is not a theme issue13:07
flexiondotorgochosi, When I say Numix doesn't work.13:08
ochosiyup13:08
flexiondotorgochosi, What I actually mean is the initial screen is white, clicking then repaints and you see a perfectly correct greeter.13:08
flexiondotorgochosi, Just a blank white screen. No decorations or anything.13:09
flexiondotorgochosi, And a mouse cursor.13:09
flexiondotorgochosi, Click and everything appears normal.13:09
ochosiright, no clue what that could be, i've never seen anything like that before13:09
flexiondotorghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/142666413:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1426664 in ubuntu-mate "14.04.2 LTS after booting to login page, get a white screen until i hit a mouse button" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:10
flexiondotorgochosi, I've back ported lightdm-gtk-greeter to the Ubuntu MATE 14.04 PPA. Hence the reference to 14.04.13:10
flexiondotorgochosi, I've not actually seen it on Ubuntu MATE 15.04 (others have). But I can reproduce on my Arch Linux machine since lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.0 arrived.13:11
ochosiwait, you've backported the 2.0 greeter to 14.04?13:11
ochosiwhat does "backport" mean exactly? did you check whether it was using any symbols that are too new for gtk3.10 (or whatever 14.04 was shipping with) ?13:12
flexiondotorgochosi, Took the dsc and built under Trusty.13:13
brainvvashhttps://bugs.archlinux.org/task/4399913:13
ochosibtw, no need to ping me all the time, i also follow this channel if you don't13:13
flexiondotorgsuggest defining the active-monitor in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf to work around the issue.13:17
flexiondotorg*suggests13:17
ochosiright, well i don't have trusty around here so i can't even try to reproduce13:20
ochosiand i'm not sure i'd wanna spend my time on it, LTS releases are supposed to only get bugfix updates for a reason (stability)13:20
ochosiotherwise we could just do rolling release13:21
knomewell unless there's a very good reason to do the backport13:21
ochosiyeah, which in the case of the greeter - there isn't13:21
knomenope, just saying :)13:21
flexiondotorgochosi, Also affects 15.0413:23
ochosiwait, before you said you can't reproduce it on 15.04?13:23
flexiondotorgochosi, I can't because I don't have a dual monitor setup running 15.04.13:23
flexiondotorgBut I will try a live iso on my work computer later.13:23
flexiondotorgThe reason for backporting lightdm-gtk-greeter to 14.04 was so the a11y features work correctly.13:24
ochosiright, what doesn't work exactly in 14.04?13:26
flexiondotorghttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/142666413:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1426664 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "After booting to lightdm-gtk-greeter, get a white screen until I click a mouse button" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:26
ochosithat is the bugreport you linked to before13:27
ochosiwhat a11y features aren't working in 14.0413:27
flexiondotorgUsing lightdm-gtk-greeter as shipped in the official 14.04 archive, you can enable screen reading but it is "killed" once you log in.13:34
flexiondotorgUsing lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.9.0 or higher and Orca from the accessibility PPA resolves that issue.13:35
flexiondotorgNow, regarding the white screen. I have just reproduced that on my dual screen workstation at work using Ubuntu MATE 15.04.13:35
ochosiflexiondotorg: right, i guess screen reading could be added to the session startup for those who need it though as a workaround, no?14:41
flexiondotorgWell, orca and onboard are not session based. They are activated via gsettings triggers.14:42
flexiondotorgVia keybindings and display manager handoff.14:43
ochosimeh, our file chooser has weird sorting by defualt15:44
ochosifolders are shuffled into the other files15:45
ochosi(in gtk3)15:47
elfyhi slickymaster 16:03
elfywork16:03
slickymasterWorkhey elfy 16:10
krytarikUnit193: Just done overhauling the docs' translation script too now, as well as doing some more changes to the credits one - both are following the same pattern now too:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/P2HCrnI3WksfU0ub73W4/17:37
Unit193krytarik: WHY YOU PING ME?!  I  NO NO HERE!17:44
Unit193OH wait.17:44
krytarik:P17:44
Unit193translate() { => translate () {  Eh. :/17:45
knomehaha17:46
Unit193krytarik: What editor do you use?17:49
krytarikVim, usually.17:49
Unit193I flip between nano and vim, the syntax coloring in nano colors foo() as a function but not foo ()17:51
knomenano is better.17:51
knome;)17:51
krytarikUnit193: Yeah, I noticed that too - but Nano is wrong there. :P17:51
ali1234one of my panels isn't accepting clicks at all19:50
ali1234only one of four though, its weird19:50
bluesabreflexiondotorg: saw that briefly when 2.0 was in development, interesting to see its return21:53
flexiondotorgbluesabre, Settings active-monitor=0 seems to be a work around.21:54
Unit193bluesabre: Hello!21:54
flexiondotorgbluesabre, The Arch Linux bug tracker references a patch they are waiting to see applied to trunk.21:55
bluesabrealso good to know21:56
bluesabreUnit193: hey!21:56
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