[03:01] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: thanks for the merge
[10:38]  * bluesabre wonders if xfce4-session 4.12.1 will land in exp today, since he needs to rebuild -session anyway it seems, https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-announce/2015-March/000401.html
[12:31] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, Have you experienced this? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1426664
[12:32] <brainvvash> incompatible gtk theme?
[12:34] <flexiondotorg> brainvvash, Interesting idea.
[12:55] <ochosi> flexiondotorg: if you need hints, this is how we do it for the 2.0 version of the greeter (scroll back in git time to see what we had for 1.8 and below) https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/blob/master/gtk-3.0/apps/lightdm-gtk-greeter.css
[12:56] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I've tried several themes. Same issue with all of them.
[12:56] <elfy> ochosi: just in case you happen across things - dailies are fubar - known issues with that
[12:56] <flexiondotorg> elfy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-vesa/+bug/1432899
[12:57] <elfy> flexiondotorg: thanks
[12:58] <flexiondotorg> elfy, Confirm that one ;)
[12:58] <elfy> bbl
[13:03] <ochosi> flexiondotorg: so it doesn't even work with greybird?
[13:03] <ochosi> elfy: thanks! good to know
[13:04] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I'll test greybird.
[13:04] <ochosi> well that's really the only theme you should test with :)
[13:05] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, It is a bit limiting to have a themeable greeter that only work with one theme though ;)
[13:06] <ochosi> hehe, well fix your themes then ;)
[13:06] <ochosi> also, it *should* look ok by default without any theming
[13:06] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Numix doesn't work. Ambiance doesn't work.
[13:06] <ochosi> numix should work too, it has pretty ok greeter support
[13:07] <ochosi> so i guess the conclusion to draw from that is that it is not a theme issue
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, When I say Numix doesn't work.
[13:08] <ochosi> yup
[13:08] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, What I actually mean is the initial screen is white, clicking then repaints and you see a perfectly correct greeter.
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Just a blank white screen. No decorations or anything.
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, And a mouse cursor.
[13:09] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Click and everything appears normal.
[13:09] <ochosi> right, no clue what that could be, i've never seen anything like that before
[13:10] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1426664
[13:10] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I've back ported lightdm-gtk-greeter to the Ubuntu MATE 14.04 PPA. Hence the reference to 14.04.
[13:11] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I've not actually seen it on Ubuntu MATE 15.04 (others have). But I can reproduce on my Arch Linux machine since lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.0 arrived.
[13:11] <ochosi> wait, you've backported the 2.0 greeter to 14.04?
[13:12] <ochosi> what does "backport" mean exactly? did you check whether it was using any symbols that are too new for gtk3.10 (or whatever 14.04 was shipping with) ?
[13:13] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Took the dsc and built under Trusty.
[13:13] <brainvvash> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/43999
[13:13] <ochosi> btw, no need to ping me all the time, i also follow this channel if you don't
[13:17] <flexiondotorg> suggest defining the active-monitor in /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf to work around the issue.
[13:17] <flexiondotorg> *suggests
[13:20] <ochosi> right, well i don't have trusty around here so i can't even try to reproduce
[13:20] <ochosi> and i'm not sure i'd wanna spend my time on it, LTS releases are supposed to only get bugfix updates for a reason (stability)
[13:21] <ochosi> otherwise we could just do rolling release
[13:21] <knome> well unless there's a very good reason to do the backport
[13:21] <ochosi> yeah, which in the case of the greeter - there isn't
[13:21] <knome> nope, just saying :)
[13:23] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, Also affects 15.04
[13:23] <ochosi> wait, before you said you can't reproduce it on 15.04?
[13:23] <flexiondotorg> ochosi, I can't because I don't have a dual monitor setup running 15.04.
[13:23] <flexiondotorg> But I will try a live iso on my work computer later.
[13:24] <flexiondotorg> The reason for backporting lightdm-gtk-greeter to 14.04 was so the a11y features work correctly.
[13:26] <ochosi> right, what doesn't work exactly in 14.04?
[13:26] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1426664
[13:27] <ochosi> that is the bugreport you linked to before
[13:27] <ochosi> what a11y features aren't working in 14.04
[13:34] <flexiondotorg> Using lightdm-gtk-greeter as shipped in the official 14.04 archive, you can enable screen reading but it is "killed" once you log in.
[13:35] <flexiondotorg> Using lightdm-gtk-greeter 1.9.0 or higher and Orca from the accessibility PPA resolves that issue.
[13:35] <flexiondotorg> Now, regarding the white screen. I have just reproduced that on my dual screen workstation at work using Ubuntu MATE 15.04.
[14:41] <ochosi> flexiondotorg: right, i guess screen reading could be added to the session startup for those who need it though as a workaround, no?
[14:42] <flexiondotorg> Well, orca and onboard are not session based. They are activated via gsettings triggers.
[14:43] <flexiondotorg> Via keybindings and display manager handoff.
[15:44] <ochosi> meh, our file chooser has weird sorting by defualt
[15:45] <ochosi> folders are shuffled into the other files
[15:47] <ochosi> (in gtk3)
[16:03] <elfy> hi slickymaster 
[16:03] <elfy> work
[16:10] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy 
[17:37] <krytarik> Unit193: Just done overhauling the docs' translation script too now, as well as doing some more changes to the credits one - both are following the same pattern now too:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/P2HCrnI3WksfU0ub73W4/
[17:44] <Unit193> krytarik: WHY YOU PING ME?!  I  NO NO HERE!
[17:44] <Unit193> OH wait.
[17:44] <krytarik> :P
[17:45] <Unit193> translate() { => translate () {  Eh. :/
[17:46] <knome> haha
[17:49] <Unit193> krytarik: What editor do you use?
[17:49] <krytarik> Vim, usually.
[17:51] <Unit193> I flip between nano and vim, the syntax coloring in nano colors foo() as a function but not foo ()
[17:51] <knome> nano is better.
[17:51] <knome> ;)
[17:51] <krytarik> Unit193: Yeah, I noticed that too - but Nano is wrong there. :P
[19:50] <ali1234> one of my panels isn't accepting clicks at all
[19:50] <ali1234> only one of four though, its weird
[21:53] <bluesabre> flexiondotorg: saw that briefly when 2.0 was in development, interesting to see its return
[21:54] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, Settings active-monitor=0 seems to be a work around.
[21:54] <Unit193> bluesabre: Hello!
[21:55] <flexiondotorg> bluesabre, The Arch Linux bug tracker references a patch they are waiting to see applied to trunk.
[21:56] <bluesabre> also good to know
[21:56] <bluesabre> Unit193: hey!