[12:07] <pmatulis> on 14.04 i'm surprised to see all my private ssh keys within ssh-agent after reboot, with no entering of passphrases on my part.  i've googled around and tried editing /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop .  i've also unchecked ssh-agent in the GUI menus.  all to no avail. anyone have a proper answer to this?
[12:07] <leszek> pmatulis: pam is taking care of it after login from the lightdm login manager
[12:08] <pmatulis> leszek: srsly?  so i need to edit something under /etc/pam.d ?
[12:09] <leszek> pmatulis: that is common standard nowadays in all desktops. Not sure how to disable it though.
[12:10] <pmatulis> leszek: i consider it a huge security problem to do this by default and also make it so hard to undo
[12:10] <pmatulis> but i'm sure it's a ubuntu problem and not something special in lubuntu
[12:11] <leszek> pmatulis: it is actually common along all distributions as far as I know. Convenience issue
[12:11] <pmatulis> i mean, passphrases exist for a reason, they protect your keys ffs
[12:13] <pmatulis> i see pam_gnome_keyring.so getting invoked under pam.d.  so i should be able to configure gnome-keyring itself somewhere else
[16:26] <kopple> hi everyone, is LXDE customizable in icons and panels size?
[16:31] <kopple> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel I don't currently have a copy of Lubuntu now, I read here you can enlarge the width and height with the files inside /home/user/.config/lxpanel/profilename/panels but would this enlarge the icons too?
[17:27] <linux_dream> hi guys I have a problem with firefox
[17:27] <linux_dream> every time I click on a link, say from hexchat's irc,  it opens firefox (fine)  but instead of loading the link, it starts firefox on the principal page
[17:28] <linux_dream> how can I fix this
[17:28] <acecipher> Hmmm
[17:28] <wxl> sounds like a firefox issue
[17:28] <wxl> but i'm pretty sure there's some settings about opening links in new windows
[17:28] <wxl> in firefox
[17:28] <wxl> hunt around in preferences
[17:28] <acecipher> Yeah
[17:28] <acecipher> YeahAlso a workaround is to copy the links
[17:29] <linux_dream> yeah but it's cumbersome to copy the links
[17:29] <linux_dream> for example when I use a news feeder and just want to read a particular news... it starts firefox instead of loading the news
[17:29] <acecipher> Yes
[17:29] <acecipher> XP
[17:31] <linux_dream> well thanks, that worked
[19:48] <jay111> why is it when I format a usb stick in lubuntu it disappears in PCManFM ?
[19:49] <jay111> my usb stick is recognized in Disks but PCManFM  no longer shows 32USB when I plug in my usb stick ?
[19:50] <jay111> my usb stick is no longer detected in the file manager
[19:51] <leszek> jay111: did you format it with disks or gparted ? Which filesystem did you choose ?
[19:52] <jay111> disks
[19:52] <jay111> disks--->quick format
[19:54] <leszek> jay111: maybe disks did something wrong there. Can you please check with gparted and see what it might did wrong
[19:55] <jay111> im new to linux, how do I access gparted
[19:56] <jay111> ok im installing gparted right now
[19:57] <jay111> im in gparted
[19:57] <jay111> it says unallocated
[20:01] <jay111> leszek you there ?
[20:02] <jay111> im in gparted, its saying my usb in unallocated and its giving me the option to create a new partition
[20:03] <wxl> jay111: sounds like you formatted it without giving it a filesystem, which explains why it doesn't show up in the file manager
[20:03] <jay111> how do i give it a filesystem ?
[20:04] <wxl> make a partition :)
[20:04] <wxl> i'd suggest ext3
[20:05] <jay111> it says free space preceding
[20:05] <leszek> jay111: yeah just create a new partition and format it ext4 or 3 if you only want to use it on linux
[20:06]  * leszek wonders will no sound notification is played back if someone mentions me
[20:06]  * wxl mentions leszek for fun
[20:06] <jay111> its a 30 gb stick,  what should i set the free space preceding number too ?
[20:06] <wxl> jay111: 0 if you want to use the whole thing ☺
[20:07] <wxl> …unless, for some odd reason, you want space before your partition
[20:07] <wxl> can't imagine you would
[20:07] <jay111> got it
[20:07] <jay111> now lets see if it detects
[20:07] <wxl> oh and leszek made a good point
[20:08] <wxl> use fat32 if you want to use with other machines
[20:08] <wxl> non-linux
[20:10] <jay111> its still not detected
[20:11] <jay111> made the ext3 partition in gparted but its not showing up in PcFMman
[20:12] <wxl> did it give you a notification when you plugged it in?
[20:12] <wxl> with an option to mount it?
[20:12] <jay111> nope
[20:12] <pauled> yeah lubuntu lxde very nice, durring a full upgrade from 4.04 to 4.10 that what I got: http://i.imgur.com/wlyrcBz.png
[20:12] <pauled> Now I am stuck to crash the system
[20:13] <pauled> I mean 14.04/14.10
[20:14] <jay111> great I got it
[20:14] <jay111> just had to partition in Disks rather than in gparted
[20:15] <wxl> you might have not committed the changes in gparted
[20:15] <wxl> !fr | pauled
[20:16] <pauled> !fr | wxl
[20:17] <wxl> pauled: thanks, but i'm aware of that. ☺ if you want help with something in french, i doubt there is anyone here that ycan help you. your image is in french..
[20:18] <pauled> wxl: I am speaking in english what is the point whith your !fr | wxl
[20:18] <jay111> your right wxl,  i did not click on the nike check mark in gparted , thanks for your help awesome
[20:20] <pauled> wxl: The picture speaks for itself. No need to understand Chinese to see that there is a lock and the word "session".
[20:20] <wxl> pauled: well, it doesn't speak to me.
[20:24] <pauled> wxl: Well, I'll translate for you. The message say this: "This session is locked You will be automatically redirected to the unlocker window in few seconds.."
[20:24] <pauled> Except that it never happens.
[20:32] <wxl> pauled: tell me how you get to that. what sequence of events occur before you reach it, starting from reboot?
[20:38] <pauled> wxl: This occurred after a period of inactivity, then the session is closed automatically when I was conducting a major update.
[20:40] <wxl> pauled: you might want to reboot. alternately, open a virtual terminal and search for processes that have "lock" in them and kill them.
[20:43] <pauled> wxl: thanks but too late, I already shutting down the system
[20:45] <wxl> pauled: so it works now?
[21:06] <ioioi> what is your favorite distro that is similar to lubuntu ?
[21:06] <wxl> um, lubuntu
[21:06] <wxl> what you looking for ioioi ?
[21:07] <ioioi> i like lubuntu,  wondering if I should give peppermint 5 a try or something else, I am looking for distro recommendations
[21:07] <wxl> you should try
[21:07] <wxl> that's the one way to find out
[21:07] <ioioi> but a distro that includes everything like lubuntu
[21:08] <ioioi> i was thinking of maybe netrunner but idk, maybe it wont be as fast, linux mint constant pass prompts and wifi connect was buggy
[21:10] <pauled> ioioi: manjaro -> then -> arch installer like evo/lution
[21:10] <ioioi> do you guys think peppermint is worse or better than lubuntu ?
[21:10] <ioioi> better/worse meaning speed, user friendly
[21:10] <pauled> ioioi: what is peppermint? flash player?
[21:11] <pauled> ioioi: then why you compare a flash player with a distro?
[21:11] <pauled> ioioi: I don't get it
[21:12] <ioioi> ?
[21:13] <ioioi> peppermint 5 vs. lubuntu
[21:14] <ioioi> just seeking for some distro recommendations besides lubuntu
[21:16] <melodie> hi
[21:19] <genii> ioioi: You might ask somewhere like ##linux where they are not as biased as we are here in the #lubuntu channel ;)
[21:21] <ioioi> alright thanks
[21:33] <kopple> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXPanel I don't currently have a copy of Lubuntu now, I read here you can enlarge the width and height with the files inside /home/user/.config/lxpanel/profilename/panels but would this enlarge the icons too?
[21:33] <ioioi> when you do a clean install of lubuntu, is your bios set to uefi or legacy ?
[21:36] <kopple> nobody knows?
[22:13] <melodie> Kamilion ?
[23:16] <sakang> i'm still stumped as to why pcmanfm sorts the other way (as if right to left) in lubuntu session vs lxde session.  I installed thunar just for comparison and it behaves wrongly too.
[23:18] <sakang> I installed caja and mate, and caja also behaves wrongly in lubuntu session.  In mate session they all behaves correctly just like in lxde.
[23:19] <sakang> I only have en-us locale
[23:21] <ianorlin> sakang, I don't know
[23:24] <sakang> ianorlin: I know you tried to duplicate. I tried looking into the lubuntu-default-settings but I couldn't see any clue.
[23:25] <wxl> might be lxsession sakang
[23:25] <wxl> it's went through some interesting changes lately
[23:25] <ianorlin> !bug
[23:25] <ianorlin> but this is not the hugest priroity
[23:26] <sakang> wxl: could be, might look into it thanks
[23:27] <sakang> ianorlin: sure it's not, I just not boot into lubuntu :)
[23:54] <melodie> good night