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| didrocks | good morning | 06:58 |
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| darkxst | hey didrocks | 07:00 |
| didrocks | hey darkxst | 07:00 |
| darkxst | didrocks, curious what happens to all our MIR's now? | 07:01 |
| didrocks | darkxst: don't have time to look retrospectively to old ones, I would say, we need the discussion that started on grilo to end up with strong resolutions first, and then, if someone has time, they can go back in time | 07:03 |
| darkxst | didrocks, was talking more future, than resprospectively | 07:04 |
| didrocks | darkxst: you need to find some team at canonical wanted to support the source I guess | 07:05 |
| didrocks | darkxst: if you are concerned by this, I would say raise it to the technical board | 07:05 |
| darkxst | didrocks, its a little concerning, some of it is due to -desktop team still holding randsom over g-s-d/g-c-c, but the rest comes from the large overlap with Ubuntu | 07:07 |
| darkxst | and many times in the overlap case, Canonical don't want the new features that pull in the new deps, or they want to wait etc | 07:08 |
| darkxst | (Canonical teams) | 07:08 |
| didrocks | darkxst: yeah, nothing I can really do here, so when you get the issue and you are stuck, feel free to raise it there I guess | 07:08 |
| darkxst | didrocks, I wasnt expecting you to fix it, but sooner or later it will have to come that that (TB) | 07:11 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:22 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 07:22 |
| seb128 | TB ... not sure what they can do there? | 07:22 |
| seb128 | they can't decide that packages should be supported even if there is nobody to support those | 07:22 |
| mlankhorst | morning | 07:27 |
| didrocks | morning mlankhorst | 07:28 |
| seb128 | hey mlankhorst | 07:36 |
| larsu | good morning | 07:36 |
| darkxst | seb128, except there are teams to support them, just not Canonical teams, so either thats a technical issue that the archive structure is insufficient, or its a political issue | 08:24 |
| darkxst | unless support is meant to mean some bespoke custom development on demand type things | 08:25 |
| seb128 | darkxst, the issue is also to know that if there is a security problem in one of those packages in 3 years there is somebody to deal with it | 08:28 |
| seb128 | darkxst, or there is no garanty that volunteers are still going to be around or wanting to resolve the issues in 3 years | 08:29 |
| seb128 | so I don't think it's a Canonical or not, just need to have a solid reference which can be trusted | 08:30 |
| seb128 | sorry, user switching screwed my session :-/ | 08:33 |
| darkxst | and what make a solid reference? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | dunno, if you were in charge, what would make you trust somebody to still be around in 3 years? | 08:35 |
| seb128 | I guess it mostly mean having a commercial backing behind | 08:35 |
| seb128 | or a group solid enough that you trust them to not vanish easily | 08:36 |
| seb128 | like Debian | 08:36 |
| seb128 | well, those are in nowhere official statements | 08:36 |
| seb128 | just my view on the issue | 08:36 |
| darkxst | seb128, IT companys come and go like the wind | 08:37 |
| seb128 | not all | 08:37 |
| seb128 | I'm ready to bet my money that microsoft, apple and google are still there in 3 years | 08:37 |
| darkxst | and all of the packages we have MIR'd are well maintained in Debian | 08:37 |
| seb128 | well, maybe that has to be enough | 08:38 |
| seb128 | as said I'm just doing loud thinking there, those are not official statement | 08:38 |
| seb128 | the current archive layout is suboptimal | 08:39 |
| seb128 | shame that the archive re-org was never fully done | 08:39 |
| darkxst | seb128, sure the big boys will be around, will canonical be? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | the idea was to be able to tag packages as supported without having to rely on the main/universe split | 08:39 |
| seb128 | darkxst, not sure, but that's not really revelant to the discussion | 08:39 |
| seb128 | we are talking about how Canonical hold to its engagement to maintain those packages and deal with security issues&co | 08:40 |
| darkxst | seb128, just saying IMO commercial backing doesnt provide a huge guarantee in itself | 08:40 |
| seb128 | if Canonical is not sure anymore the question of how they provide their support vanishes iwth it | 08:40 |
| seb128 | not sure->not there | 08:41 |
| seb128 | right | 08:41 |
| seb128 | so you argue that support should be provided only for things Canonical is ready to support itself | 08:41 |
| seb128 | and not trust anyone else, including other IT companies | 08:41 |
| seb128 | which is a fair position | 08:41 |
| darkxst | seb128, no I argue, there needs to be a way for this to work, for the community flavours | 08:42 |
| seb128 | "this" being? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | you can't force Canonical to provide free support for things you need but Canonical has no direct interest in | 08:43 |
| darkxst | we don't even want to do that, but the archive structure seems to dictate it | 08:44 |
| seb128 | well, there are solutions | 08:45 |
| seb128 | including finishing the archive reorg | 08:45 |
| seb128 | or moving sources to universe | 08:45 |
| seb128 | we could also duplicate sources if really needed | 08:46 |
| seb128 | like have a nautilus in main and nautilus-tracker in universe | 08:46 |
| seb128 | in practice there is no real problem so far though | 08:46 |
| seb128 | Canonical teams have been happily taking over some extra packages in those cases to try to accomodate for others | 08:47 |
| seb128 | like desktop team subscribed to tracker and grilo | 08:47 |
| willcooke | morning desktoppers | 08:47 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke, how is grey London today? | 08:47 |
| darkxst | seb128, yes for the couple of cases that were bought up | 08:49 |
| didrocks | morning willcooke | 08:49 |
| seb128 | darkxst, so in practice there is no real issue? | 08:49 |
| darkxst | seb128, if desktop team, takes all our MIR requests then no | 08:50 |
| darkxst | you probably want gom anyway eventually (that will be next up I think) | 08:51 |
| darkxst | next MIR | 08:52 |
| seb128 | what is gom doing? | 08:54 |
| seb128 | "GObject Data Mapper" | 08:54 |
| seb128 | k | 08:54 |
| didrocks | seb128: it's like the django model, you write classes and it's translated into sql queries | 08:55 |
| didrocks | seeing the number of bugs/issues that I heard about it, not sure it suits main though | 08:56 |
| darkxst | didrocks, its quite new still | 08:58 |
| didrocks | yeah, that's the reason why it's maybe too new to be in main | 08:59 |
| * willcooke curses the wifi | 09:00 | |
| darkxst | didrocks, I agree its not ready, but it will need to be at some point | 09:01 |
| didrocks | yeah, just don't feed the MIR before it is :) | 09:02 |
| didrocks | file* | 09:02 |
| darkxst | didrocks, have I ever filed any unreasonable MIR's? I don't think so | 09:06 |
| didrocks | darkxst: no, but when you were telling "gom will be next up", I started to be afraid that you were referring for something like "soon" | 09:06 |
| Laney | grr | 09:09 |
| darkxst | didrocks, I did not say soon | 09:09 |
| Laney | no network on resume, as usual | 09:09 |
| Laney | restart network manager, system hangs | 09:09 |
| Laney | #fail | 09:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: did you try with upstart? | 09:10 |
| didrocks | at least, to get systemd out of the loop | 09:10 |
| Laney | that was upsstart | 09:10 |
| didrocks | ah | 09:11 |
| didrocks | so, on both? seems networkish managerish or rfkillish/hardwarish | 09:11 |
| darkxst | didrocks, atleast for now, we have got though the backlog of MIR's for 3.12/14 | 09:12 |
| darkxst | grilo/plugins is planning on using gom, not sure they have switched yet though | 09:12 |
| darkxst | (on a hard-dep basis) | 09:13 |
| didrocks | doesn't seem yet from git master | 09:13 |
| Laney | it will do, which will be an improvement imho | 09:16 |
| Laney | some of the current direct interaction with sqlite is a bit shonky | 09:16 |
| darkxst | Laney, then again some of sparql also plays up with sqlite at times | 09:18 |
| darkxst | but it should be much easier for a higher level framework to write valid SQL you would think | 09:19 |
| * Laney looks at didrocks | 09:38 | |
| Laney | seems to me as if you are in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-test-case-dev ... want to review that machine-id test fix? :) | 09:40 |
| didrocks | Laney: pfff, I'm in as a *side effect* ;) | 09:42 |
| didrocks | joke apart, I think the QA team should review the tests (even if this seems to be trivial), I'm happy to do it as a fallback if no-one is available though | 09:43 |
| Laney | tried pinging this cihelp thing, no reply yet | 09:43 |
| darkxst | Laney, I messed your comment of the gnome-contacts FFe, but guess its needs a UIFe no also | 09:43 |
| Laney | ya | 09:43 |
| Laney | is it worth it now? | 09:43 |
| darkxst | the UI is largely unchanged on Unity (except the proper menu bar I added) and the change to add account dialog | 09:44 |
| didrocks | Laney: keep me posted | 09:45 |
| Laney | I'll just ask plars or someone | 09:45 |
| darkxst | Laney, guess its ok to land first thing in W though | 09:46 |
| Laney | no promoted desktop iso since march 6th sucks | 09:46 |
| Laney | darkxst: If you want to ask for the UIFe then go for it | 09:47 |
| Laney | if you think the benefits are worth it | 09:47 |
| darkxst | Benefits for us, not for you guys, though larsu thinks both existing and new UI's are bad | 09:49 |
| seb128 | Laney, what's the issue with the iso? | 09:50 |
| Laney | smoke tests are failing | 09:50 |
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| seb128 | what tests/on what error? | 09:56 |
| Laney | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/vivid/view/Smoke%20Testing/ -> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/vivid/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/vivid-desktop-amd64-smoke-default/131/artifact/utah-35520-vivid-amd64_default.run_2015-03-18_08-03-10.yaml | 09:57 |
| seb128 | oh, it's the machine-id thing you were discussing which is the issue | 10:02 |
| Laney | ye | 10:05 |
| Laney | not sure why there's a test for this implementation detail | 10:05 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney, can one of you maybe review https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/non-unity-sessions-need-scaling/+merge/250153 for me? it's sitting there for a while and I think it's correct/should land for vivid since it fixes oem issues | 11:12 |
| seb128 | brb session restart | 11:15 |
| larsu | seb128: approved. Thanks. Going to lunch now :) | 11:20 |
| seb128 | larsu, thanks! | 11:20 |
| larsu | :) | 11:20 |
| * Laney wonders how to get email about these MPs | 11:22 | |
| seb128 | larsu, the 16/9 value thing is just copy from GNOME code, but agreed on fixing it at the right place, if possible | 11:22 |
| seb128 | but seems it's the hardware sending buggy values | 11:22 |
| seb128 | so unsure we can compute valid ones | 11:22 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney, review on https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/battery-info-key/+merge/253336 appreciated as well | 11:36 |
| Laney | seb128: don't want to take that upstream commit to make the notification work? | 11:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, no | 11:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, I tried to use a notification, it looks weird with notify osd | 11:46 |
| seb128 | well, first the function use doesn't work under notify-osd so you still don't get a notification | 11:46 |
| seb128 | I did a custom one like we do for others but it looks weird | 11:46 |
| seb128 | like having a battery icon and 100% as text | 11:46 |
| seb128 | we could draw a progressbar like for volume | 11:47 |
| seb128 | but I'm unsure it's a good UI | 11:47 |
| seb128 | that would need proper design | 11:47 |
| seb128 | if somebody is interested to work on that feel free | 11:47 |
| Laney | yeah it seems like a weird action | 11:47 |
| Laney | i wonder why they want that | 11:47 |
| larsu | seb128: too late :) | 12:23 |
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| seb128 | Trevinho, attente_, hey, when you added the keygraber to compiz to handle GNOME keybindings, did you look at providing the timestamp as well? | 14:46 |
| Trevinho | seb128: mh, attente did the internals... But I think he did | 14:46 |
| * Trevinho checks | 14:46 | |
| seb128 | no, it's an uu | 14:47 |
| Trevinho | seb128: no, in fact... | 14:47 |
| seb128 | I'm asking because we would need to avoid focus issues | 14:47 |
| seb128 | https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=487a936e61766f0306772c1269e2ff437fc53a46 | 14:47 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so... where's the new API? | 14:47 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, new API? | 14:47 |
| Trevinho | you're faster than my fingers :P | 14:48 |
| Trevinho | seb128: that's the new api I guess... we cpouldn't use uuu before | 14:48 |
| attente_ | seb128: i don't think so | 14:48 |
| seb128 | attente_, Trevinho, is that something you could easily change? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | not sure if unity has the timestamp value handy at this point of the code | 14:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: is that already in vivid (the {u,g}-s-d part)? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no, signatures need to match | 14:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yes, compiz gives us | 14:49 |
| seb128 | so we can't land only one side | 14:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I know... so we should update them all together | 14:49 |
| seb128 | I was looking at backporting that commit | 14:49 |
| seb128 | but then it complains about the mismatching signature | 14:49 |
| seb128 | so I'm asking if somebody could do the unity side | 14:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: we can sync with that | 14:49 |
| Trevinho | I can prepare a branch in seconds | 14:49 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, please do | 14:50 |
| Trevinho | seb128: sure | 14:50 |
| seb128 | :-) | 14:50 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:50 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ouch I hope I've not been too positive, as we've the timestamp on options, let me check further | 14:52 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k | 14:52 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ah, no sorry... we've it | 14:52 |
| Trevinho | no worries | 14:52 |
| seb128 | great :-) | 14:52 |
| Trevinho | seb128: do you have a bug for it? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, no, but I can open one if you want, I was just checking if I find one | 14:56 |
| Trevinho | seb128: ok, I leave that to you with great pleasure :) | 14:56 |
| * Trevinho really can't understand why they didn't do this from the very beginning... timestamp MUST BE THEREEEEEE (or crazyness happens)! | 14:57 | |
| Trevinho | seb128: lp# ready? :) | 15:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1433648 | 15:03 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1433648 in unity (Ubuntu) "u-s-d needs timestamp to run commands" [Undecided,New] | 15:03 |
| Trevinho | cool | 15:03 |
| Trevinho | seb128: here it is https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/gnome-keys-timestamp-api/+merge/253380 | 15:06 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, thanks! | 15:07 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I'm testing the combined changes, give it a bit to build and I can confirm if it works | 15:09 |
| Trevinho | seb128: cool, ChrisTownsend will check the unity code meanwhile | 15:10 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, great, thanks | 15:10 |
| tejota | How could I setup an web accessible Ubuntu desktop (VDI/DaaS sort of thing, I guees) on a VPS (say, with Digitalocean)? | 15:30 |
| Laney | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 15:49 |
| Laney | a new current image is born | 15:49 |
| didrocks | Laney: I hope it does boot under upstart :p (see #ubuntu-release ;)) | 15:57 |
| Laney | ha | 15:57 |
| happyaron | Laney: just come up with a patch for language-selector's pkg_depends, how can I test whether it work in installation? | 16:12 |
| Laney | install it in a live session and try installing | 16:12 |
| happyaron | OK | 16:12 |
| Laney | didn't somebody else come up with a patch already? | 16:12 |
| happyaron | nope, :) | 16:12 |
| Laney | bug #1431337 | 16:12 |
| ubot5 | bug 1430893 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1431337 [FFe] Install Fcitx for Chinese users" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1430893 | 16:12 |
| Laney | ffs | 16:13 |
| Laney | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/200029284/fcitx-support.debdiff | 16:13 |
| happyaron | ic, the way of modifying it is correct, but it's not pulling in the correct packages | 16:14 |
| happyaron | didn't notice the patch though, quickly merged after it's reported | 16:14 |
| Laney | probably give this guy credit | 16:15 |
| happyaron | that's not a problem | 16:15 |
| happyaron | will | 16:15 |
| happyaron | will write him in changelog | 16:15 |
| happyaron | 9.48MB/s getting daily-live, yay | 16:18 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, the changes work great, thanks ;-) | 16:23 |
| seb128 | bregma, hey, do you plan an unity landing in vivid soon? I would like to see https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1433648 fixed but it needs to coordinate u-s-d and unity landings | 16:25 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1433648 in unity (Ubuntu) "u-s-d needs timestamp to run commands" [Medium,In progress] | 16:25 |
| bregma | seb128, soon, just focused on a Unity 14.04 SRU at the moment, the MP for that bug is in the review queue right now | 16:26 |
| * bregma is keeping away from ci-train after breaking it the last time | 16:26 | |
| seb128 | bregma, k, how do you want to handle the sync? do you plan to include u-s-d in the next unity silo? | 16:26 |
| bregma | we could do it that way | 16:27 |
| bregma | what's the u-s-d MP? | 16:27 |
| seb128 | not up yet | 16:27 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if I should use a versionned Breaks | 16:27 |
| seb128 | and on what unity version then | 16:28 |
| seb128 | to ensure they get updated together | 16:28 |
| bregma | hamm, we could do an upstream Unity release to keep it simple | 16:28 |
| seb128 | did you plan to bump the version for the next vivid landing? | 16:29 |
| bregma | I can, if we release 7.3.2 upstream | 16:30 |
| seb128 | well, should I use that in my u-s-d mp then? | 16:30 |
| bregma | yes, let's do that | 16:30 |
| seb128 | bregma, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/unity-settings-daemon/timestamp-for-commands/+merge/253394 | 16:32 |
| seb128 | bregma, please include in your next unity update silo then ;-) | 16:33 |
| bregma | will do | 16:33 |
| seb128 | bregma, thanks | 16:34 |
| seb128 | larsu, your gnome-desktop current patch seems to work fine, is it still creating issues with nautilus? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | or should I upload? | 16:34 |
| seb128 | I test my testcase with scale 1 and 2 and nautilus with scale 1 and 2, things look fine | 16:35 |
| seb128 | though nautilus with scale 2 has the image not properly scaled it seems but that was already the case | 16:35 |
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| larsu | seb128: works for me, but please test it again to make sure | 17:03 |
| larsu | seb128: it propery scales it now with the new version of my patch. not for you? | 17:06 |
| seb128 | larsu, well, I built a package and test both testcase and nautilus | 17:06 |
| seb128 | larsu, is GDK_SCALE=2 nautilus supposed to render the full bg image? | 17:06 |
| seb128 | or is with scaling 2 the image supposed to go over the screen? | 17:06 |
| larsu | no, it shouldn't go over the screen | 17:08 |
| seb128 | larsu, sorry, tried again and took screenshot, I probably got confused by the big icons | 17:11 |
| seb128 | exactly the same | 17:11 |
| * seb128 validates larsu's fix and upload | 17:11 | |
| larsu | \o/ | 17:11 |
| seb128 | larsu, thanks again for working on that! | 17:12 |
| seb128 | larsu, I commented on the upstream bug saying that the fix works for me | 17:12 |
| larsu | seb128: just saw, thanks | 17:12 |
| seb128 | yw! | 17:13 |
| larsu | seb128: it's not exactly the same. Should be better (try with an image where you can see the pixels) | 17:13 |
| * larsu had a blck/white 1x1 checker pattern to test | 17:13 | |
| Laney | JohnLea_: willcooke: hi, do you plan to address #21 / #22 from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1429011 ? | 17:23 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1429011 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "15.04 wallpapers package" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:23 |
| willcooke | Laney, nope, but JohnLea_ might ^^^^ | 17:24 |
| Sweet5hark | larsu: you Berlin guys certainly have too much VC flying around: http://www.deutsche-startups.de/startups-jobs/stellenangebote/tester-qualitaetsmanager-bordelle-mw/ | 17:24 |
| larsu | Sweet5hark: lol! | 17:26 |
| willcooke | Laney, JohnLea_ - I will email Alex as well | 17:26 |
| Laney | willcooke: ok, if you could give a size budget of 4M that would be helpful too. ;) | 17:27 |
| willcooke | Laney, sure | 17:27 |
| Laney | thanks | 17:29 |
| * Laney looks out for xnox's OCD | 17:31 | |
| willcooke | :D | 17:32 |
| xnox | Laney: is there a new wallpaper, or are you gonna kill me with off-set one?! | 17:32 |
| willcooke | xnox, were you more concerned about the horizontal alignment, or both horizontal and vertical? | 17:32 |
| willcooke | or was it the dots? | 17:33 |
| xnox | willcooke: the horizon height is imho critical. | 17:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, any news of the theme/csd decoration look changes? | 17:33 |
| xnox | willcooke: the rest are minor, knit pickings. | 17:33 |
| xnox | willcooke: the "center horizontal fold" | 17:33 |
| willcooke | ack | 17:33 |
| larsu | seb128: not yet :( | 17:33 |
| willcooke | so it needs to be, well, in the middle | 17:33 |
| willcooke | ? | 17:33 |
| xnox | willcooke: john lea is not the one who has assets or drew this. | 17:33 |
| xnox | willcooke: previously i would just wonder around blue fin, until i find the right person to nudge things in photoshop and email them to me. | 17:34 |
| willcooke | no but he's the Design person in the channel | 17:34 |
| xnox | LOL | 17:34 |
| willcooke | xnox, if you're in the office, then I expect Alex is as well, he's the guy who drew them | 17:34 |
| xnox | willcooke: honestly, just find the person who drew it direct. | 17:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, I don't think we need to ask for permissions, we just need to drop them a fyi and upload | 17:34 |
| Laney | yes we do | 17:34 |
| xnox | willcooke: i quit canonical last year, fyi ;-) | 17:35 |
| Laney | it didn't show up on the list though | 17:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, we do what? | 17:35 |
| willcooke | oh! yeah! | 17:35 |
| willcooke | xnox, yeah, I've email him | 17:35 |
| seb128 | fyi or ask for permission? | 17:35 |
| Laney | need the fyi at least | 17:35 |
| Laney | but it's not even on there yet | 17:35 |
| seb128 | right | 17:35 |
| Laney | I asked pmatu something to moderate the list but it's still not there | 17:35 |
| larsu | Laney: awaiting approval... if this is the process, it isn't good | 17:35 |
| Laney | yeah no shit | 17:36 |
| seb128 | on what list is it moderation? documentation? | 17:36 |
| Laney | ubuntu-doc | 17:36 |
| seb128 | k | 17:37 |
| seb128 | asking on #ubuntu-devel in case | 17:37 |
| seb128 | larsu, who would be the right person to review/ack https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ido/prelight-and-focus-scale/+merge/252293 ? charles ? | 17:37 |
| larsu | Laney: are you on that list? Can you please just send an email from your account? | 17:37 |
| larsu | that would at least get *this* thing moving | 17:37 |
| Laney | don't know | 17:37 |
| Laney | I think not | 17:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, can you fwd me the email you sent? | 17:38 |
| larsu | seb128: yes, and the original reporter of the bug (ochosi) | 17:38 |
| seb128 | ochosi, can you test/review ^ ? | 17:39 |
| larsu | Laney: why not? | 17:39 |
| larsu | seb128: sure | 17:39 |
| Laney | why not what? | 17:39 |
| ochosi | hey guys | 17:39 |
| ochosi | i'm using that same code in a panel plugin for xfce, that's how i noticed the bug :) | 17:39 |
| ochosi | so yeah, that fix works for me there, but i can try to test it with ido too | 17:40 |
| larsu | Laney: I asked if you can send an email and your next message was "don't know. I think not." I guess that was unrelated? | 17:40 |
| Laney | first you asked if I was on the list. :P | 17:40 |
| seb128 | ochosi, thanks | 17:40 |
| ochosi | anything special i need to know for testing/building that lib? | 17:40 |
| seb128 | charles, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ido/prelight-and-focus-scale/+merge/252293 ? should be an easy one | 17:40 |
| larsu | ochosi: wait... if my fix to ido works for you, you must be using ido, no? | 17:40 |
| ochosi | larsu: nope, we borrowed the scalemenuitem code for an xfce plugin | 17:41 |
| larsu | ochosi: how else would you be affected | 17:41 |
| larsu | ochosi: so you copied the fix? | 17:41 |
| seb128 | code copy | 17:41 |
| larsu | well then… | 17:41 |
| seb128 | larsu, should I see any difference under unity | 17:41 |
| seb128 | or a "look the same" is good? | 17:41 |
| ochosi | larsu: yes, this is where we use it: http://imgur.com/TXhMUsA | 17:42 |
| larsu | seb128: it's there, but very subtle | 17:42 |
| larsu | seb128: switch to adwaita and you'll see it | 17:42 |
| seb128 | larsu, k | 17:42 |
| seb128 | larsu, switched to adwaita, windows decoration from your branch look weird, the min/max buttons and title are white on light grey | 17:44 |
| seb128 | larsu, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/ucc.png | 17:45 |
| seb128 | not well vertically centered as well | 17:46 |
| seb128 | but I guess in practice people don't use adwaita on unity | 17:46 |
| larsu | seb128: woah, I thought you were still talking about the scalemenuitem branch | 17:50 |
| larsu | seb128: how can changes to ubuntu-themes affect adwaita? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | larsu, oh sorry, not I mean the ubuntu-themes decoration changes | 17:51 |
| seb128 | oh, maybe it was there before | 17:51 |
| seb128 | I don't try adwaita often | 17:51 |
| seb128 | I've your branch applied though | 17:51 |
| seb128 | ignore that | 17:51 |
| larsu | seb128: probably. Don't switch to adwaita to test those changes. They're for ubuntu-themes | 17:51 |
| seb128 | it doesn't seem a real world usecase | 17:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, I was switching to test ido | 17:51 |
| seb128 | but ja | 17:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, can you resend your ffe email? the moderator said he doesn't see it in the queue... | 17:52 |
| seb128 | well, not to me but to the list | 17:52 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 17:52 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, night | 17:52 |
| larsu | seb128: ok | 17:52 |
| seb128 | larsu, danke | 17:52 |
| * larsu would have thought email works reliably these days | 17:52 | |
| seb128 | you did get an email saying it's waiting for moderation? | 17:52 |
| larsu | yes | 17:52 |
| Laney | suspicious | 17:53 |
| seb128 | larsu, in fact the moderation says it probably got disgarded, sorry about that | 17:53 |
| seb128 | just resend | 17:53 |
| Laney | haha | 17:53 |
| seb128 | the guy is around and can approve it | 17:53 |
| larsu | done | 17:53 |
| Laney | see, email is reliable | 17:53 |
| Laney | it's those pesky humans | 17:53 |
| larsu | pesky | 17:53 |
| Laney | good word | 17:53 |
| larsu | indeed | 17:53 |
| larsu | Your message to ubuntu-doc awaits moderator approval | 17:54 |
| larsu | Your message to ubuntu-doc awaits moderator approval | 17:54 |
| larsu | let's see… | 17:54 |
| ochosi | ok done | 17:54 |
| seb128 | ochosi, thanks | 17:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/gnome-keys-timestamp-api/+merge/253380 if you want another easy review ;-) | 17:56 |
| ochosi | seb128: np, thanks to larsu for coming up with the fix :) | 17:56 |
| seb128 | hum, I don't have rights to approve https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/overlay-scrollbar/blacklist-gnome-boxes/+merge/251566 | 17:56 |
| seb128 | can somebody do that for me? | 17:57 |
| * larsu feels out of place to do so | 17:57 | |
| Laney | hahaha | 17:57 |
| * Laney loves the blacklist bonanza | 17:57 | |
| Laney | no rights either | 17:57 |
| Laney | seb128: did you mean to link the usd branch instead? | 17:58 |
| Laney | the bug's a bit light on details | 17:58 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, sorry | 18:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, added a testcase to the bug, but it's basically "use keybinding to open an app (calc, web, email) and it goes to background" | 18:01 |
| seb128 | I noticed when testing my fix for the battery info key | 18:01 |
| Laney | cheers | 18:01 |
| * Laney remapped the keys to do volume actions instead, lemme change | 18:02 | |
| seb128 | Laney, I mapped ctrl-alt-c to calculator to try | 18:02 |
| seb128 | larsu, please send email again, you were in autodiscard for some reason, he fixed it for good this time | 18:03 |
| Laney | it seemed to try and put them in empty space | 18:03 |
| Laney | stupid algorithm | 18:03 |
| larsu | seb128: should I write a script that sends it every 10 mins? | 18:04 |
| Laney | https://imgur.com/HIe0Mq4 | 18:04 |
| Laney | :D | 18:04 |
| larsu | Laney: I've never understood why gnome-calculator is not a single-instance application | 18:06 |
| larsu | *single-window, sorry | 18:06 |
| larsu | bbiab | 18:06 |
| Laney | I can imagine wanting to do a few different calculations at once | 18:07 |
| Laney | maybe... | 18:07 |
| Laney | got to go, ttyl! | 18:07 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| seb128 | larsu, lol, sorry :( | 18:12 |
| * willcooke -> EOD. tata | 18:30 | |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm-afk | ||
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