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aSheepieHi, is there a way of manually testing the url-dispatcher hook, pls?01:35
bala_stuck at building environment is there any one to help05:15
bala_make: *** No rule to make target '/media/bala/Newvolume1/phablet/out/target/product/condor/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libmake_f2fs_intermediates/export_includes', needed by '/media/bala/Newvolume1/phablet/out/target/product/condor/obj/EXECUTABLES/recovery_intermediates/import_includes'06:43
bala_?07:27
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dholbachgood morning08:12
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boudwin 1909:13
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Forgive Mom & Dad Day! :-D09:29
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AskUbuntu_Are there plans to provide Ubuntu on more (bq) smartphonses? | http://askubuntu.com/q/59820309:56
sturmflut-workCan we have www.sansbullshitsans.com as the default font for the phone? Pretty please10:20
ogra_sturmflut-work, lol10:29
E524lol, but i  hope the team works on bullshit rather than such bullshit10:34
karnirsalveti: against which project should we file the bug with audio recorder hanging? the one Victor e-mailed you about.11:02
yogesh_hey11:25
yogesh_any one there11:25
popeyyes.11:26
yogesh_can i install apache server and opencv-python on my ubuntu touch phone11:27
yogesh_i have 4 gb ram 2.3 ghz intel atom11:27
Riddellgo ahead11:28
yogesh_have you tried it ?11:30
Elleoyogesh_: apt-get install --no-install-recommends cmake qt5-default:armhf qtdeclarative5-dev:armhf qtbase5-private-dev:armhf qtdeclarative5-private-dev:armhf qtpositioning5-dev:armhf make ninja-build python g++ g++-arm-linux-gnueabihf pkg-config pkg-config-arm-linux-gnueabihf libglib2.0-dev:armhf libnss3-dev:armhf libpci-dev:armhf libgcrypt-dev:armhf libdbus-1-dev:armhf libudev-dev:armhf libpulse-dev:armhf libasound2-dev:armhf libx11-dev:armhf libc11:30
Elleooops11:30
Elleoyogesh_: https://twitter.com/rpadovani93/status/56449423467454873711:30
Elleoyogesh_: to do so you need to set your phone in to writable mode (which means OTA upgrades won't necessarily work correctly)11:31
Elleoyogesh_: but after doing that you can apt-get install any package in the normal Ubuntu archives (although anything involving X11 won't work)11:31
popeynot any package in the archive if you're on rtm11:32
popeybecause your sources.list will point to the rtm archive which is smaller11:32
Elleoah yeah, you'd need to be on the devel-proposed channel ideally11:32
Elleowhich gives you access to the vivid archives11:32
popeyya11:32
yogesh_can i use ftty too....?11:36
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rsalvetikarni: pulseaudio is fine12:04
karnirsalveti: ok :)12:04
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jgdxcyphermox, ping13:00
lskaHello13:16
lskaWhy apt-get isnt working on ubuntu touch?13:17
popeylska: because the image is by default read-only13:18
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kenvandineElleo,  my fix for bug 1429687 is ready for review14:28
ubot5bug 1429687 in content-hub "Cannot import two files with the same name to ContentStore.App" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142968714:28
kenvandineElleo, to test it, grab my hub-importer example and import a photo from gallery14:28
kenvandineand look in ~/.cache/hub-importer.ken-vandine/HubIncoming/1 for the filename14:29
kenvandinethen create a dir for 214:29
kenvandineand touch a file in that dir with the same filename14:29
kenvandinethen try to do another import of the same photo14:29
kenvandineyou should see the state in hub-importer as aborted14:29
kenvandinei guess i should note this in the MP :)14:29
AskUbuntu_Ubuntu touch HTML 5 how to create complex headers? | http://askubuntu.com/q/59830914:46
M8hello14:54
M8mi names m814:54
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Guest67047im in school doing thos lol14:54
Guest67047im hiding from teacher14:54
Guest67047tee-hee14:54
Guest67047hello14:55
Guest67047boo-b000bs14:55
k1l_Guest67047: i think you look for ##chat14:55
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Guest67047it wont let me send14:56
Guest67047hey14:56
dobeyuhm15:05
Elleokenvandine: okay, will take a look15:26
kenvandineElleo, thx15:29
Elleokenvandine: what's the expected behaviour when importing multiple items, where one already exists but the others don't? Currently it doesn't abort under those conditions but only delivers the photo that didn't exist; is that the intended behaviour?15:49
k1l_oh oh http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BQ-Ubuntu-Phone-Bad-Kernel&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%2915:49
kenvandineElleo, ugh... good catch15:56
kenvandinemaybe we should abort on that too?15:56
kenvandineElleo, i really want to add an error api15:56
Elleokenvandine: I think aborting makes most sense, since they're not getting what they expect15:57
kenvandineso we can do something like deliver the ones that worked but set the error state to Partial15:57
kenvandineor something15:57
kenvandineyeah15:57
kenvandinei can fix that quicklyu15:57
Elleokenvandine: okay, cool15:57
kenvandineany other feedback?15:57
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Elleokenvandine: well the other option would be that we could rename the new file to <file>.1.extension or similar like download manager does15:58
Elleokenvandine: that avoids the need to abort at all15:58
Elleo(where 1 increments as much as needed to find a spare space)15:58
kenvandineElleo, i'll leave that for future improvement16:01
kenvandineand file a bug to track it16:01
Elleookay16:01
Anon18372Hello! Does anybody have an idea how much longer Nexus 7 2013 will be officially supported? I'm intending to buy one (alongside the bq phone) but don't want to do if it will be unsupported soon. This will be purchased exclusively for use with Ubuntu Touch.16:03
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ogra_Anon18372, hard to predict ... but i'd say it will still be around for a while16:10
Anon18372ogra_: Thanks :) Now to keep an eye out for a good buy since the prices have surged again!16:10
Anon18372And the N10 is not any cheaper (understandably)16:10
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ogra_the N10 is like an unloved stepchild in ubuntu16:12
ogra_if we drop support for a tablet i suspect this will be first ...16:13
Anon18372ogra_: Really? I'm surpised :) I thought N10 would be preferred given it sits further away from the phone (size and specs)16:14
Anon18372ogra_: N7 is kind of no mans land, I assumed, though none-the-less I'd be happy with it :)16:14
ogra_we used to need it to validate the sidestage stuff ... but at some point the N7 got the same sidestage support16:14
ogra_N10 has a multitude of other issues that the N7 doesnt have (bluetooth not working etc)16:15
Anon18372ogra_: Ah, okay... Is N7 at a consumer-level stage?16:16
ogra_well, closer to it than N10 for sure16:16
Anon18372I assumed (perhaps incorrectly!) now that Touch is going to be avilable on a customer handset that touch must be in good shape16:16
ogra_the actual focus of everyone is on the phones, so tablets dont get the attention they should atm16:16
ogra_once there will be a tablet with preinstalled ubuntu on the market that will surely change though16:17
Anon18372But the underlying OS is the same, right? So hopefully tablets benefit from that development16:17
ogra_they have minor UI differences16:18
ogra_(like the sidestage)16:18
Anon18372Ah, okay16:18
Anon18372I need to do more reading around sidestage. The whole phone app and tablet app thing got me, because I thought the apps were the same on both platforms but clearly not16:18
Anon18372(as I say, I need to read more on the subject!)16:18
ogra_they are the same16:18
ogra_but presented in different ways16:19
Anon18372Okay... I see!16:19
dobeyAnon18372: also, due to the way most of these devices work, support for stuff on one may be vastly different from another similar device. we don't have control over most of the drivers, and some things work differently on different devices.16:29
Anon18372dobey: Understood16:30
Anon18372I wonder how much the demand for N7 results from Ubuntu users - Given that it's 'the' reference device. Given it's age I can imagine Android users would be happier with alternative devices especially now the price is rising again.16:31
Anon18372It would be interesting to see the OS usage stats :)16:31
aquariushey, touch dudes. I think that the thing which automatically controls the screen brightness on my Bq phone is working in reverse -- when I go into a darker area, the screen gets darker.17:08
aquariushow can I verify this? :)17:08
mcphailaquarius: surely that's the right way?17:09
popeyyeah17:09
ogra_yeah, get new glasses :)17:09
popeyi wouldn't want my eyes poked out when in a dark room17:09
* aquarius laughs17:09
mcphailaquarius: in bright environments, your pupils constrict and you need a brighter screen to compensate for the reduced aperture17:09
k1l_you dont need more brightness when its darker.17:10
ogra_aquarius, you are seeing it the wrong way round ... if you go out into the bright sun it gets brighter so you can still read ;)17:10
aquariushowever, when I'm in a dark room, it's *too* dark; I can barely read the writing.17:10
ogra_thats just the age :)17:10
* didrocks bets the room is dark for aquarius due to ETOOMANYBEERS17:10
ogra_(turn off auto brightness is the workaround i guess)17:10
didrockshence the screen getting darker as well :)17:11
* didrocks runs…17:11
aquariusoi!17:11
aquariusnot even I am intoxicated at ten past five in the afternoon. :)17:11
ogra_i personally find it to bright when i read in bed17:11
ogra_(and dont ask my GF)17:12
aquariusheh. OK, have turned off autobrightness. That'll do, I suppose17:12
dobeyhrmm17:12
* didrocks likes the "relative darkness" option in android 517:12
mcphaili presume a widget to adjust autobrightness would be in order?17:12
dobeycyanogenmod ships with the stock android contacts/calendar apps which require a google account, right?17:12
ogra_mcphail, well, it might be nice if it just defaulted to the manual brightness setting as lowest or some such17:13
ogra_so you can re-use the UI17:13
mcphailogra_: probably. I'm guessing as I don't have my phone yet and fell quite jealous of aquarius, despite his poor eyesight...17:14
k1l_btw: i see cm12 now got a "livedisplay" brightness setting that works like redshift/flux on the desktop. i like that17:16
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mcphailk1l_: i've never tried those. Do they make a difference?17:17
* mcphail updated his desktop to Vivid last night and is now seeing everything in shades of purple17:18
k1l_yes, you need to activate that in the settings first. then it makes the screen a bit more red-ish i the night.17:18
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abeatoom26er, probably it is better here, do not annoy the trainguards ;)17:28
abeatoom26er, I see that you are using the second slot for your SIM17:29
abeatoso I think it can be an instance of bug #142743917:29
ubot5bug 1427439 in urfkill (Ubuntu RTM) "Urfkill saved wrong WWAN state after enabling/disabling flight mode" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142743917:29
om26erabeato, yes, put the SIM there yesterday to verify a fix while silo testing17:29
abeatowhich is precisely what gets fixed by the ofono silo17:29
om26erabeato, didn't it land yesterday ?17:30
abeatoom26er, the problem is that we cannot really confirm without syslog :(17:31
abeatoom26er, no, not yet17:31
abeatoif it is the bug, you would be able to reproduce it just rebooting and trying again to set FM17:31
om26erlet me reboot  then17:32
om26erabeato, yes, still does not work17:36
om26erso I guess its the same bug you suggested17:36
abeatoom26er, yep, I think so17:37
kenvandineElleo, i've filed bug 1433708 to track the idea you had and i pushed a fix for multi-item transfers a while ago, just waiting for debs to test with.17:39
ubot5bug 1433708 in content-hub "Attempt to rename a file if there is a filename conflict" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143370817:39
Elleokenvandine: okay, cool17:39
awe_abeato, what's the buttons sequence for krillin recovery?17:40
aquariusElleo, heya -- brief question (I have a meeting in 20 minutes), but I wanted to get a quick summary from you about how the word suggestions stuff works and your thoughts on making it suggest alternatives based on letter proximity, if you have 5 mins :)17:40
abeatoawe_, vol UP + power17:41
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kenvandineElleo, ok, CI is done and i manually tested17:55
kenvandineit aborts on a single failure in a multi17:55
Elleokenvandine: cool, will give that a quick test17:55
kenvandinethx17:56
atgnagShould I be able to flash Ubuntu Touch onto my SGH-T989?18:01
Elleokenvandine: iirc Qt has a method for providing temporary files, perhaps that'd be better than creating a random path manually?18:03
Elleokenvandine: e.g. http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtemporarydir.html18:04
kenvandineindeed... i started out looking to create something random inside the builddir18:05
kenvandinebut that was problematic too :)18:06
kenvandinesince i gave up on that, it probably would be better to do this18:06
kenvandineah, i could have used this even for something relative to the builddir18:07
kenvandinei hadn't considered that :)18:07
SturmFlutApparently a phone number associated with BQ Spain tried to call me this afternoon. I didn't answer it an calling them back doesn't seem to work for some reason. Does anybody know what could be so important that they can't just send an e-mail?18:08
Elleokenvandine: yeah, I just get a bit nervous when people create temp files themselves; as I remember various exploits having happened as a result of people managing to figure out ways to predict temporary files and such (not likely here though)18:08
Anon18372SturmFlut: No idea, did you order in the 1st flash sale?18:08
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kenvandineand it's under /tmp, so gets purged on reboot18:09
dobeySturmFlut: you'd have to ask bq what was so important18:09
kenvandineand just in the test suite18:09
kenvandineElleo, but i'll change that18:09
dobeySturmFlut: so uh, e-mail them? :)18:09
Elleokenvandine: ah yeah, I hadn't spotted that was just part of the tests18:09
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kenvandineand they are empty files :)18:09
Elleokenvandine: in which case I'm less fussed :)18:10
* kenvandine doesn't like making Elleo fussed :)18:10
Elleoheh18:10
kenvandinei'd still prefer to use QTemporaryDir18:11
kenvandinesince it cleans up itself18:11
Elleoyeah18:11
SturmFlutdobey: I sent them an e-mail now. Just wanted to know if other people have been called too.18:12
kenvandineElleo, did you see my babble about the test suite yesterday18:12
Elleokenvandine: yeah, good job you caught that18:13
kenvandinei wish we had caught it ages ago!18:13
kenvandinegotta fix that soon18:13
kenvandinesomething with the way this test harness works i think18:13
kenvandineindividual failures get missed because the child passes18:13
kenvandineElleo, pushed18:19
Elleokenvandine: cool18:21
dobeymterry: why does the welcome wizard on vivid not have the location settings page? and why can i not skip the "learn how to ue a touchscreen" intro?18:41
mterrydobey, not skipping intro is an intentional design decision18:42
mterrydobey, wizard should have location settings page (on krillin anyway)18:42
kenvandinedobey, the location settings is only in the wizard for HERE18:43
kenvandineif you don't have that installed, it won't show it18:43
dobeyoh :-/18:45
dobeythe inability to skip intro is incredibly annoying when reflashing with wipe18:46
dobey:(18:46
SturmFlutdobey: You can tell ubuntu-device-flash to immediately enable developer mode and then automatically disable the intro afterwards18:48
SturmFlutdobey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing18:49
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dobeySturmFlut: yes i can enable dev mode and set the password that way, but that makes the wizard not come up at all18:49
SturmFlutdobey: Ah, I got your requirement wrong18:50
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bla_hi all20:15
bla_can you force ubuntu-device-flash  to install on a p99020:17
bla_?20:17
dobeyis ubuntu ported to that device?20:17
bla_no20:17
bla_but I hoped to install vanilla Nexus or something20:17
bla_maybe some it will work20:17
bla_some of it20:18
dobeybla_: phones require porting to each specific device20:22
bla_okok20:22
bla_thanks20:22
dobeybla_: if a port was already available, it could be put on a system-image server that ubuntu-device-flash could use20:22
bla_ah ok20:23
bla_there is a 'port in progress'20:23
bla_ on the touch wiki20:23
bla_but I think it was based on a demo version of TOuch20:23
bla_dobey: thanks for the response though20:23
bla_dobey: I think I ll just throw it away then...20:24
bla_dobey: cheers!20:24
taiebotmm Qt 5.4.1 seems much more buggy. Already 4th  forced reboot :'(. Mir seems to be the culprit.20:24
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adrian47ssh, uses adb in any way?22:40
brendandadrian47, not that i know of22:52
adrian47brendand, thanks22:52
brendandadrian47, some context might help though - why did you want to know?22:53
adrian47brendand, i have some problem. My UT port hangs, when connecting to it by ssh or adb22:55
adrian47sometimes I can use ssh for few minutes, it is slow then, and works good until system hangs completely22:56
brendandadrian47, you mean ssh or phablet-shell?22:57
adrian47phablet-shell over ssh?  I didn't used it much before, and i'm not sure how to name it22:59
adrian47sometimes on boot, before whole system will start (still in boot logo) i can use for few seconds adb, and it works fast23:00
adrian47brendand, CPU usage is about 20%  (1GHz clocked CPU)23:03
adrian47and, i'm not sure how can I debug it..23:09
adrian47brendand, I'm going to sleep now, good night :)   If you will have some idea, i am leaving pc for night.23:15
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AskUbuntu_Ubuntu Touch/Phone sim card contacts import | http://askubuntu.com/q/59847923:28
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