[01:35] <aSheepie> Hi, is there a way of manually testing the url-dispatcher hook, pls?
[05:15] <bala_> stuck at building environment is there any one to help
[06:43] <bala_> make: *** No rule to make target '/media/bala/Newvolume1/phablet/out/target/product/condor/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libmake_f2fs_intermediates/export_includes', needed by '/media/bala/Newvolume1/phablet/out/target/product/condor/obj/EXECUTABLES/recovery_intermediates/import_includes'
[07:27] <bala_> ?
[08:12] <dholbach> good morning
[09:13] <boud> win 19
[09:29] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Forgive Mom & Dad Day! :-D
[09:56] <AskUbuntu_> Are there plans to provide Ubuntu on more (bq) smartphonses? | http://askubuntu.com/q/598203
[10:20] <sturmflut-work> Can we have www.sansbullshitsans.com as the default font for the phone? Pretty please
[10:29] <ogra_> sturmflut-work, lol
[10:34] <E524> lol, but i  hope the team works on bullshit rather than such bullshit
[11:02] <karni> rsalveti: against which project should we file the bug with audio recorder hanging? the one Victor e-mailed you about.
[11:25] <yogesh_> hey
[11:25] <yogesh_> any one there
[11:26] <popey> yes.
[11:27] <yogesh_> can i install apache server and opencv-python on my ubuntu touch phone
[11:27] <yogesh_> i have 4 gb ram 2.3 ghz intel atom
[11:28] <Riddell> go ahead
[11:30] <yogesh_> have you tried it ?
[11:30] <Elleo> yogesh_: apt-get install --no-install-recommends cmake qt5-default:armhf qtdeclarative5-dev:armhf qtbase5-private-dev:armhf qtdeclarative5-private-dev:armhf qtpositioning5-dev:armhf make ninja-build python g++ g++-arm-linux-gnueabihf pkg-config pkg-config-arm-linux-gnueabihf libglib2.0-dev:armhf libnss3-dev:armhf libpci-dev:armhf libgcrypt-dev:armhf libdbus-1-dev:armhf libudev-dev:armhf libpulse-dev:armhf libasound2-dev:armhf libx11-dev:armhf libc
[11:30] <Elleo> oops
[11:30] <Elleo> yogesh_: https://twitter.com/rpadovani93/status/564494234674548737
[11:31] <Elleo> yogesh_: to do so you need to set your phone in to writable mode (which means OTA upgrades won't necessarily work correctly)
[11:31] <Elleo> yogesh_: but after doing that you can apt-get install any package in the normal Ubuntu archives (although anything involving X11 won't work)
[11:32] <popey> not any package in the archive if you're on rtm
[11:32] <popey> because your sources.list will point to the rtm archive which is smaller
[11:32] <Elleo> ah yeah, you'd need to be on the devel-proposed channel ideally
[11:32] <Elleo> which gives you access to the vivid archives
[11:32] <popey> ya
[11:36] <yogesh_> can i use ftty too....?
[12:04] <rsalveti> karni: pulseaudio is fine
[12:04] <karni> rsalveti: ok :)
[13:00] <jgdx> cyphermox, ping
[13:16] <lska> Hello
[13:17] <lska> Why apt-get isnt working on ubuntu touch?
[13:18] <popey> lska: because the image is by default read-only
[14:28] <kenvandine> Elleo,  my fix for bug 1429687 is ready for review
[14:28] <kenvandine> Elleo, to test it, grab my hub-importer example and import a photo from gallery
[14:29] <kenvandine> and look in ~/.cache/hub-importer.ken-vandine/HubIncoming/1 for the filename
[14:29] <kenvandine> then create a dir for 2
[14:29] <kenvandine> and touch a file in that dir with the same filename
[14:29] <kenvandine> then try to do another import of the same photo
[14:29] <kenvandine> you should see the state in hub-importer as aborted
[14:29] <kenvandine> i guess i should note this in the MP :)
[14:46] <AskUbuntu_> Ubuntu touch HTML 5 how to create complex headers? | http://askubuntu.com/q/598309
[14:54] <M8> hello
[14:54] <M8> mi names m8
[14:54] <Guest67047> im in school doing thos lol
[14:54] <Guest67047> im hiding from teacher
[14:54] <Guest67047> tee-hee
[14:55] <Guest67047> hello
[14:55] <Guest67047> boo-b000bs
[14:55] <k1l_> Guest67047: i think you look for ##chat
[14:55] <Guest67047> join ##chat
[14:56] <Guest67047> it wont let me send
[14:56] <Guest67047> hey
[15:05] <dobey> uhm
[15:26] <Elleo> kenvandine: okay, will take a look
[15:29] <kenvandine> Elleo, thx
[15:49] <Elleo> kenvandine: what's the expected behaviour when importing multiple items, where one already exists but the others don't? Currently it doesn't abort under those conditions but only delivers the photo that didn't exist; is that the intended behaviour?
[15:49] <k1l_> oh oh http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=BQ-Ubuntu-Phone-Bad-Kernel&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%29
[15:56] <kenvandine> Elleo, ugh... good catch
[15:56] <kenvandine> maybe we should abort on that too?
[15:56] <kenvandine> Elleo, i really want to add an error api
[15:57] <Elleo> kenvandine: I think aborting makes most sense, since they're not getting what they expect
[15:57] <kenvandine> so we can do something like deliver the ones that worked but set the error state to Partial
[15:57] <kenvandine> or something
[15:57] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:57] <kenvandine> i can fix that quicklyu
[15:57] <Elleo> kenvandine: okay, cool
[15:57] <kenvandine> any other feedback?
[15:58] <Elleo> kenvandine: well the other option would be that we could rename the new file to <file>.1.extension or similar like download manager does
[15:58] <Elleo> kenvandine: that avoids the need to abort at all
[15:58] <Elleo> (where 1 increments as much as needed to find a spare space)
[16:01] <kenvandine> Elleo, i'll leave that for future improvement
[16:01] <kenvandine> and file a bug to track it
[16:01] <Elleo> okay
[16:03] <Anon18372> Hello! Does anybody have an idea how much longer Nexus 7 2013 will be officially supported? I'm intending to buy one (alongside the bq phone) but don't want to do if it will be unsupported soon. This will be purchased exclusively for use with Ubuntu Touch.
[16:10] <ogra_> Anon18372, hard to predict ... but i'd say it will still be around for a while
[16:10] <Anon18372> ogra_: Thanks :) Now to keep an eye out for a good buy since the prices have surged again!
[16:10] <Anon18372> And the N10 is not any cheaper (understandably)
[16:12] <ogra_> the N10 is like an unloved stepchild in ubuntu
[16:13] <ogra_> if we drop support for a tablet i suspect this will be first ...
[16:14] <Anon18372> ogra_: Really? I'm surpised :) I thought N10 would be preferred given it sits further away from the phone (size and specs)
[16:14] <Anon18372> ogra_: N7 is kind of no mans land, I assumed, though none-the-less I'd be happy with it :)
[16:14] <ogra_> we used to need it to validate the sidestage stuff ... but at some point the N7 got the same sidestage support
[16:15] <ogra_> N10 has a multitude of other issues that the N7 doesnt have (bluetooth not working etc)
[16:16] <Anon18372> ogra_: Ah, okay... Is N7 at a consumer-level stage?
[16:16] <ogra_> well, closer to it than N10 for sure
[16:16] <Anon18372> I assumed (perhaps incorrectly!) now that Touch is going to be avilable on a customer handset that touch must be in good shape
[16:16] <ogra_> the actual focus of everyone is on the phones, so tablets dont get the attention they should atm
[16:17] <ogra_> once there will be a tablet with preinstalled ubuntu on the market that will surely change though
[16:17] <Anon18372> But the underlying OS is the same, right? So hopefully tablets benefit from that development
[16:18] <ogra_> they have minor UI differences
[16:18] <ogra_> (like the sidestage)
[16:18] <Anon18372> Ah, okay
[16:18] <Anon18372> I need to do more reading around sidestage. The whole phone app and tablet app thing got me, because I thought the apps were the same on both platforms but clearly not
[16:18] <Anon18372> (as I say, I need to read more on the subject!)
[16:18] <ogra_> they are the same
[16:19] <ogra_> but presented in different ways
[16:19] <Anon18372> Okay... I see!
[16:29] <dobey> Anon18372: also, due to the way most of these devices work, support for stuff on one may be vastly different from another similar device. we don't have control over most of the drivers, and some things work differently on different devices.
[16:30] <Anon18372> dobey: Understood
[16:31] <Anon18372> I wonder how much the demand for N7 results from Ubuntu users - Given that it's 'the' reference device. Given it's age I can imagine Android users would be happier with alternative devices especially now the price is rising again.
[16:31] <Anon18372> It would be interesting to see the OS usage stats :)
[17:08] <aquarius> hey, touch dudes. I think that the thing which automatically controls the screen brightness on my Bq phone is working in reverse -- when I go into a darker area, the screen gets darker.
[17:08] <aquarius> how can I verify this? :)
[17:09] <mcphail> aquarius: surely that's the right way?
[17:09] <popey> yeah
[17:09] <ogra_> yeah, get new glasses :)
[17:09] <popey> i wouldn't want my eyes poked out when in a dark room
[17:09]  * aquarius laughs
[17:09] <mcphail> aquarius: in bright environments, your pupils constrict and you need a brighter screen to compensate for the reduced aperture
[17:10] <k1l_> you dont need more brightness when its darker.
[17:10] <ogra_> aquarius, you are seeing it the wrong way round ... if you go out into the bright sun it gets brighter so you can still read ;)
[17:10] <aquarius> however, when I'm in a dark room, it's *too* dark; I can barely read the writing.
[17:10] <ogra_> thats just the age :)
[17:10]  * didrocks bets the room is dark for aquarius due to ETOOMANYBEERS
[17:10] <ogra_> (turn off auto brightness is the workaround i guess)
[17:11] <didrocks> hence the screen getting darker as well :)
[17:11]  * didrocks runs…
[17:11] <aquarius> oi!
[17:11] <aquarius> not even I am intoxicated at ten past five in the afternoon. :)
[17:11] <ogra_> i personally find it to bright when i read in bed
[17:12] <ogra_> (and dont ask my GF)
[17:12] <aquarius> heh. OK, have turned off autobrightness. That'll do, I suppose
[17:12] <dobey> hrmm
[17:12]  * didrocks likes the "relative darkness" option in android 5
[17:12] <mcphail> i presume a widget to adjust autobrightness would be in order?
[17:12] <dobey> cyanogenmod ships with the stock android contacts/calendar apps which require a google account, right?
[17:13] <ogra_> mcphail, well, it might be nice if it just defaulted to the manual brightness setting as lowest or some such
[17:13] <ogra_> so you can re-use the UI
[17:14] <mcphail> ogra_: probably. I'm guessing as I don't have my phone yet and fell quite jealous of aquarius, despite his poor eyesight...
[17:16] <k1l_> btw: i see cm12 now got a "livedisplay" brightness setting that works like redshift/flux on the desktop. i like that
[17:17] <mcphail> k1l_: i've never tried those. Do they make a difference?
[17:18]  * mcphail updated his desktop to Vivid last night and is now seeing everything in shades of purple
[17:18] <k1l_> yes, you need to activate that in the settings first. then it makes the screen a bit more red-ish i the night.
[17:28] <abeato> om26er, probably it is better here, do not annoy the trainguards ;)
[17:29] <abeato> om26er, I see that you are using the second slot for your SIM
[17:29] <abeato> so I think it can be an instance of bug #1427439
[17:29] <om26er> abeato, yes, put the SIM there yesterday to verify a fix while silo testing
[17:29] <abeato> which is precisely what gets fixed by the ofono silo
[17:30] <om26er> abeato, didn't it land yesterday ?
[17:31] <abeato> om26er, the problem is that we cannot really confirm without syslog :(
[17:31] <abeato> om26er, no, not yet
[17:31] <abeato> if it is the bug, you would be able to reproduce it just rebooting and trying again to set FM
[17:32] <om26er> let me reboot  then
[17:36] <om26er> abeato, yes, still does not work
[17:36] <om26er> so I guess its the same bug you suggested
[17:37] <abeato> om26er, yep, I think so
[17:39] <kenvandine> Elleo, i've filed bug 1433708 to track the idea you had and i pushed a fix for multi-item transfers a while ago, just waiting for debs to test with.
[17:39] <Elleo> kenvandine: okay, cool
[17:40] <awe_> abeato, what's the buttons sequence for krillin recovery?
[17:40] <aquarius> Elleo, heya -- brief question (I have a meeting in 20 minutes), but I wanted to get a quick summary from you about how the word suggestions stuff works and your thoughts on making it suggest alternatives based on letter proximity, if you have 5 mins :)
[17:41] <abeato> awe_, vol UP + power
[17:55] <kenvandine> Elleo, ok, CI is done and i manually tested
[17:55] <kenvandine> it aborts on a single failure in a multi
[17:55] <Elleo> kenvandine: cool, will give that a quick test
[17:56] <kenvandine> thx
[18:01] <atgnag> Should I be able to flash Ubuntu Touch onto my SGH-T989?
[18:03] <Elleo> kenvandine: iirc Qt has a method for providing temporary files, perhaps that'd be better than creating a random path manually?
[18:04] <Elleo> kenvandine: e.g. http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtemporarydir.html
[18:05] <kenvandine> indeed... i started out looking to create something random inside the builddir
[18:06] <kenvandine> but that was problematic too :)
[18:06] <kenvandine> since i gave up on that, it probably would be better to do this
[18:07] <kenvandine> ah, i could have used this even for something relative to the builddir
[18:07] <kenvandine> i hadn't considered that :)
[18:08] <SturmFlut> Apparently a phone number associated with BQ Spain tried to call me this afternoon. I didn't answer it an calling them back doesn't seem to work for some reason. Does anybody know what could be so important that they can't just send an e-mail?
[18:08] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, I just get a bit nervous when people create temp files themselves; as I remember various exploits having happened as a result of people managing to figure out ways to predict temporary files and such (not likely here though)
[18:08] <Anon18372> SturmFlut: No idea, did you order in the 1st flash sale?
[18:09] <kenvandine> and it's under /tmp, so gets purged on reboot
[18:09] <dobey> SturmFlut: you'd have to ask bq what was so important
[18:09] <kenvandine> and just in the test suite
[18:09] <kenvandine> Elleo, but i'll change that
[18:09] <dobey> SturmFlut: so uh, e-mail them? :)
[18:09] <Elleo> kenvandine: ah yeah, I hadn't spotted that was just part of the tests
[18:09] <kenvandine> and they are empty files :)
[18:10] <Elleo> kenvandine: in which case I'm less fussed :)
[18:10]  * kenvandine doesn't like making Elleo fussed :)
[18:10] <Elleo> heh
[18:11] <kenvandine> i'd still prefer to use QTemporaryDir
[18:11] <kenvandine> since it cleans up itself
[18:11] <Elleo> yeah
[18:12] <SturmFlut> dobey: I sent them an e-mail now. Just wanted to know if other people have been called too.
[18:12] <kenvandine> Elleo, did you see my babble about the test suite yesterday
[18:13] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, good job you caught that
[18:13] <kenvandine> i wish we had caught it ages ago!
[18:13] <kenvandine> gotta fix that soon
[18:13] <kenvandine> something with the way this test harness works i think
[18:13] <kenvandine> individual failures get missed because the child passes
[18:19] <kenvandine> Elleo, pushed
[18:21] <Elleo> kenvandine: cool
[18:41] <dobey> mterry: why does the welcome wizard on vivid not have the location settings page? and why can i not skip the "learn how to ue a touchscreen" intro?
[18:42] <mterry> dobey, not skipping intro is an intentional design decision
[18:42] <mterry> dobey, wizard should have location settings page (on krillin anyway)
[18:43] <kenvandine> dobey, the location settings is only in the wizard for HERE
[18:43] <kenvandine> if you don't have that installed, it won't show it
[18:45] <dobey> oh :-/
[18:46] <dobey> the inability to skip intro is incredibly annoying when reflashing with wipe
[18:46] <dobey> :(
[18:48] <SturmFlut> dobey: You can tell ubuntu-device-flash to immediately enable developer mode and then automatically disable the intro afterwards
[18:49] <SturmFlut> dobey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing
[18:49] <dobey> SturmFlut: yes i can enable dev mode and set the password that way, but that makes the wizard not come up at all
[18:50] <SturmFlut> dobey: Ah, I got your requirement wrong
[20:15] <bla_> hi all
[20:17] <bla_> can you force ubuntu-device-flash  to install on a p990
[20:17] <bla_> ?
[20:17] <dobey> is ubuntu ported to that device?
[20:17] <bla_> no
[20:17] <bla_> but I hoped to install vanilla Nexus or something
[20:17] <bla_> maybe some it will work
[20:18] <bla_> some of it
[20:22] <dobey> bla_: phones require porting to each specific device
[20:22] <bla_> okok
[20:22] <bla_> thanks
[20:22] <dobey> bla_: if a port was already available, it could be put on a system-image server that ubuntu-device-flash could use
[20:23] <bla_> ah ok
[20:23] <bla_> there is a 'port in progress'
[20:23] <bla_>  on the touch wiki
[20:23] <bla_> but I think it was based on a demo version of TOuch
[20:23] <bla_> dobey: thanks for the response though
[20:24] <bla_> dobey: I think I ll just throw it away then...
[20:24] <bla_> dobey: cheers!
[20:24] <taiebot> mm Qt 5.4.1 seems much more buggy. Already 4th  forced reboot :'(. Mir seems to be the culprit.
[22:40] <adrian47> ssh, uses adb in any way?
[22:52] <brendand> adrian47, not that i know of
[22:52] <adrian47> brendand, thanks
[22:53] <brendand> adrian47, some context might help though - why did you want to know?
[22:55] <adrian47> brendand, i have some problem. My UT port hangs, when connecting to it by ssh or adb
[22:56] <adrian47> sometimes I can use ssh for few minutes, it is slow then, and works good until system hangs completely
[22:57] <brendand> adrian47, you mean ssh or phablet-shell?
[22:59] <adrian47> phablet-shell over ssh?  I didn't used it much before, and i'm not sure how to name it
[23:00] <adrian47> sometimes on boot, before whole system will start (still in boot logo) i can use for few seconds adb, and it works fast
[23:03] <adrian47> brendand, CPU usage is about 20%  (1GHz clocked CPU)
[23:09] <adrian47> and, i'm not sure how can I debug it..
[23:15] <adrian47> brendand, I'm going to sleep now, good night :)   If you will have some idea, i am leaving pc for night.
[23:28] <AskUbuntu_> Ubuntu Touch/Phone sim card contacts import | http://askubuntu.com/q/598479