[00:01] <mrgoodcat> its like a hyperbole of itself
[00:02] <gamerchick02> yes!
[00:04] <_stink_> gamerchick02: where are you working these days again?
[00:04] <_stink_> you're an engineer, right?
[00:10] <gamerchick02> yes, i'm at Chrysler
[00:10] <_stink_> cool
[00:10] <_stink_> working on anything fun?
[00:10] <_stink_> like
[00:10] <_stink_> flyin cars
[00:10] <gamerchick02> mechanical engineer, doing configs and systems stuff. my ubuntu bugsquad stuff has come in handy with reporting on system errors
[00:10] <_stink_> gotcha
[00:11] <gamerchick02> hah no. inter-regional vehicles that are supposed to be built in 4 regions, serviced in any of the 4 regions, and all look the same
[00:12] <gamerchick02> technically, you should be able to buy a M Jeep CSUV in China (LHD) and bring it to the US and be able to have it serviced.
[00:12] <_stink_> ooo
[00:12] <_stink_> what's the import tax
[00:12] <gamerchick02> we will see if it works
[00:12] <gamerchick02> well it makes no sense for you to buy it in China and import it since we will have them available for the US, Canada, and Mexico markets.
[00:12] <gamerchick02> built in NAFTA
[00:14] <_stink_> sure, but at the same real dollar price?
[00:14] <gamerchick02> so yeah, it's a lot of wrangling and getting things working
[00:14] <gamerchick02> probably. i dunno. there are different engines and options for each market
[00:15] <gamerchick02> so... for China you can get a 2.0 turbo diesel but it's not available for the US market
[00:15] <gamerchick02> *shrug*
[00:15] <gamerchick02> like as an example
[00:15] <gamerchick02> i'd assume a similar specced model would be the same price in each region
[00:17] <_stink_> ah ok
[00:18] <gamerchick02> i just work on a small part of the project
[00:18] <cmaloney> Evening
[00:18] <gamerchick02> howdy cmaloney
[00:18] <_stink_> yo
[00:22] <gamerchick02> ugh nothing on tv
[00:22] <cmaloney> J is trying to bring out her telescope for the first time this season
[00:23] <gamerchick02> ooo
[01:33] <cmaloney> Dammit, I'm getting sick and tired of the music industry releasing better sounding digital audio tied to LP releases
[01:34] <cmaloney> 2112: AAC files aren't brickwalled like they are on the "Deluxe" CD release.
[01:35] <cmaloney> Getting tired of CDs getting a bad rap because producers / mixers are fucking idiots when it comes to digital music
[01:35] <cmaloney> I swear it's like copy protection or some shit
[01:42] <gamerchick02> so... you're saying you can only get the higher fidelity files if you buy the LP with a digital download card?
[01:42] <gamerchick02> but you don't get that with the CD?
[01:42] <cmaloney> Yes
[01:42] <gamerchick02> ok
[01:42] <gamerchick02> that is kind of crap
[01:42] <cmaloney> They didn't brickwall the audio files, but they did on the CD
[01:42] <gamerchick02> ah
[01:43] <gamerchick02> brickwall?
[01:43] <gamerchick02> (sorry i might not be up on all this terminology)
[01:43] <cmaloney> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war
[01:43] <gamerchick02> ah ok yes
[01:44] <cmaloney> http://kindlecoverdisasters.tumblr.com/
[01:45] <gamerchick02> da fuq?
[01:46] <gamerchick02> oh my gosh
[01:46] <gamerchick02> that earns a "follow" from me
[01:47] <cmaloney> Yeah, it's pretty brutal
[01:47] <gamerchick02> that's so bad it's good
[12:54] <rick_h_> morning
[12:55] <_stink_> yo
[13:29] <cmaloney> Morning morning
[13:45] <ColonelPanic001> it is only one morning at a time
[13:45] <ColonelPanic001> which is fortunate, because one at a time is all I can handle.
[14:07] <cmaloney> heh
[15:36] <cmaloney> What the fuck
[15:37] <cmaloney> http://lwn.net/Articles/637120/rss
[15:37] <cmaloney> "Utah software company’s decade-old suit against IBM revived"
[15:37] <cmaloney> Three guesses which one.
[15:39] <cmaloney> https://imgflip.com/i/izysy
[15:39] <greg-g> does this mean we'll get Pam back?
[15:40] <cmaloney> Sadly I think so
[15:43] <jrwren> what does that mean? "get pam back?"
[15:44] <greg-g> the SCO blog run by a person named Pam $somethingIforgot
[15:44] <jrwren> ah
[15:45] <cmaloney> groklaw
[15:45] <greg-g> groklaw
[15:45] <cmaloney> pam groklaw
[15:45] <cmaloney> ;)
[15:45] <greg-g> man, took me forever to remember that (I didn't, google helped)
[15:45] <jrwren> the vmware case will be more interesting
[15:45] <cmaloney> the vmware case was actually started in this decade
[15:45] <greg-g> the Conservancy one?
[15:45] <greg-g> yeah
[15:46] <cmaloney> and relates to something in the 21st century
[15:46] <cmaloney> not sure the same can be said of the SCO case.
[15:48] <greg-g> yeah, I'm actually surprised the statue of limitations isn't preventing the SCO one
[15:53] <cscheib> jrwren / jcastro: I has interview tomorrow morning... can you guys do a late lunch, like 1?
[15:53] <jcastro> I have a daily call at 3
[15:53] <jcastro> so I should be good
[15:55] <jrwren> jcastro: you taking bus or did you get a car?
[15:55] <jrwren> cscheib: where are we meeting?
[15:55] <jcastro> I am hoping one of you pick me up, heh.
[15:55] <jrwren> that would make it a 2hr lunch for me. I can't take that long.
[15:56] <cscheib> I may be able to, but can't guarantee right now - interview kinda fucked up my morning scenario
[15:56] <cscheib> I can drop him off
[15:56] <jcastro> jrwren, where do you live in relation to me?
[15:58] <jrwren> jcastro: north side. Plymouth Rd and Huron Pkway are nearby.
[15:58] <jrwren> jcastro: i dunno, maybe traffic down there isn't htat bad that time of day?
[15:58] <jcastro> I'm not in AA proper so it's never too bad
[15:59] <jrwren> ha!
[16:00] <cscheib> jcastro: PM me address, and I'll see if/how I can accommodate transport
[16:00] <jrwren> its all good if we don't stray too far from jcastro's house for lunch.  I propose bread basket or Tmaz.
[16:00] <jcastro> which way are you coming from?
[16:00] <jcastro> I'm almost right off of 94
[16:01] <jcastro> tmaz sounds awesome
[16:01] <jcastro> there's maize too if you want more sit-down mexican
[16:01] <jrwren> and late lunch at tmaz is great becuase they get busy at noon hour
[16:01] <jrwren> ooh! I've never done Maize, lets do that.
[16:02] <cmaloney> jcastro: I think I know where you are.
[16:02] <cmaloney> Over by the Ypsi library-ish?
[16:02] <jrwren> cmaloney: he is right by meijer
[16:02] <jcastro> I am not in ypsi despite having a ypsi address
[16:03] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[16:03] <cmaloney> SO the other way.
[16:03] <cmaloney> used to love going to the ypsi library. Nice place.
[16:05] <cscheib> jcastro: as long as I don't have to stop at my customer in A2 first, I should be able to swing through and pick you up... that is right on my way
[16:05] <jcastro> perfect
[16:05]  * jcastro picked this location due to ease of access
[16:06] <cscheib> heh, I kinda picked my location due to the opposite
[16:06] <cscheib> never really hear someone say "I was just driving through Grosse Pointe"
[16:06] <jcastro> "I saw that place in a movie"
[16:07] <cscheib> heh
[16:08] <cmaloney> Now if we could only get jcastro to say "I was driving through the Royal Oak area..."
[16:08] <cmaloney> ;)
[16:09] <jcastro> I've been trying to get up there for 3 months
[16:09] <jcastro> construction in the basement etc. have basically got me stuck here all winter
[16:09] <cmaloney> jcastro: Try harder. :)
[16:09] <cmaloney> ugh, though re: construction
[16:09] <jcastro> well, help me win the lottery!
[16:09] <cmaloney> jcastro: That's easy
[16:10] <cmaloney> Here's my simple tip for winning the lottery
[16:10] <cscheib> jcastro: Trevor came to my puppet UG, haven't seen him since Forgue lived in town
[16:10] <cmaloney> 1) Choose several numbers in the range of the balls for the lottery
[16:10] <cmaloney> 2) buy ticket
[16:10] <cmaloney> 3)
[16:10] <cmaloney> 4) Profit
[16:10] <jcastro> cscheib, yeah I talk to him pretty regularly now
[16:10] <jcastro> He doesn't work at NAB anymore so he doesn't hate life
[16:11] <cscheib> yea, we discussed that
[16:11] <cscheib> haha
[16:11] <cmaloney> NAB = ?
[16:11] <cscheib> I think when I told him that Rick made Nick cry, he felt better about his stay there
[16:11] <jcastro> cmaloney, http://www.northamericanbancard.com/
[16:12] <cmaloney> Ah
[16:12] <cscheib> i.e. the place that gave me enough experience to make teh monies elsewhere
[16:12] <cmaloney> Only NAB I know of is National Association of Broadcasters
[16:12] <jcastro> cmaloney, here's how behind I am
[16:12] <jrwren> AA is the event horizon of a black hole. Once you get here you are stuck adn cannot leave.
[16:12] <jcastro> my birthday party will be in june
[16:12] <cmaloney> jcastro: Wow
[16:13] <cmaloney> Though we just celebrated JoDee's birthday with her brother last weekend
[16:13] <jcastro> noice
[16:13] <cmaloney> Her b-day is feb 14th
[16:14] <jcastro> heh
[16:14] <jcastro> it's like, if you're so delayed, you might as well wait for the nice weather
[16:14] <cmaloney> So yeah, we know about the whole "behind" thing. :)
[16:15] <jcastro> I am just tired of the house being a revolving door of construction
[16:15] <jcastro> soon though craig, soon.
[16:15] <jcastro> we will rock to rush on a 120" screen
[16:15] <cmaloney> And all this time I've settled for 32"
[16:15] <cmaloney> That will be awesome. :)
[16:19] <cscheib> cmaloney: if you want to catch jorge's attention, and possibly get him out of the house... mention Rush, Metallica, Rocksmith, or tacos
[16:19] <cmaloney> cscheib: You must be new here. :)
[16:19] <cscheib> not really
[16:19] <cscheib> just not-recent
[16:19] <cscheib> I used to be a MOTU
[16:20] <cscheib> I don't know if they even exist any more
[16:20] <jrwren> they do.
[16:20] <cmaloney> As soon as jcastro realized I revered Rush we have had long conversations about Rush
[16:20] <jrwren> want to be one again? I have a 50 package wish list :)
[16:20] <cscheib> jrwren: nah.  not unless someone wants to pay me $75/hr or so
[16:21] <cmaloney> As soon as jcastro realized I liked the synth-period of Rush I think we became blood brothers.
[16:21] <cmaloney> ;)
[16:24] <cscheib> $30 security camera so I can see when the dog wants outside is the best investment I've made in a while
[16:26] <cmaloney> nice
[16:37] <jcastro> I got an expensive dropcam and it doesn't do much. :(
[16:37] <rick_h_> heh, just taught the dog to paw the door
[16:38] <rick_h_> works for out and back in
[16:41] <cscheib> he paws the door after a while
[16:41] <cscheib> jcastro: yea, I couldn't stomach the cost of a dropcam
[16:41] <jcastro> I got it on sale, even then
[16:42] <cscheib> the dlink camera line is pretty cheap and fairly capable
[16:42] <cscheib> I've gotta figure out how to do mjpeg over https, though
[16:43] <cscheib> http://amzn.com/B00452V66G
[16:46] <cscheib> may get a couple of the day/night ones and record em to a USB drive somewhere
[16:48] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/Revell-Monogram-Missile-Plastic-Building/dp/B00BXP80DK
[16:48] <cmaloney> And people say I'm hard to shop for
[16:48] <cmaloney> (also: WTF?)
[17:16] <cmaloney> Anyone have anything that uses mini HDMI that needs cables to convert to regular HDMI?
[17:25] <cmaloney> I just bought an adapter / cable and realized I need micro instead.
[17:26] <jcastro> I didn't know hdmi came in mini and micro
[17:27] <rick_h_> yea
[17:27] <rick_h_> had an hdmi port on my N10 I used to watch offline stuff in the camper
[17:27] <rick_h_> and hotels
[17:27] <rick_h_> but now the N9 killed it :(
[17:27] <cscheib> some of the embedded platforms are using it, I think
[17:28] <cscheib> ODROID C3 or whatever
[17:28] <jcastro> you can do chromecast instead though right rick_h_?
[17:28] <rick_h_> jcastro: not if there's no wifi
[17:28] <jcastro> oh, duh
[17:28] <rick_h_> jcastro: that's the thing, you have to get them on the same wifi network to work I think
[17:28] <rick_h_> and yea, can't use offline tablet content
[17:30] <cmaloney> So anywho, inquire within if you need htem
[17:31] <cmaloney> Will cost me about half of the refund to ship it back to Amazon.
[18:49] <cmaloney> I swear every time I use rst I have to look things up for simple things like "outline"
[18:49] <cmaloney> As soon as Sphinx supports Markdown I'll be happy. :)
[18:49] <mthx> Yikes, appearently yahoo has a groups/mailing list service like google groups
[18:50] <cmaloney> mthx: They've had one longer than Google Groups
[18:50] <cmaloney> Unfortunately it also sucks pretty hard
[18:50] <mthx> Never knew that. And it requires a yahoo account :(
[18:50] <brousch> It used to be more open, but sticks ads in every email
[18:50] <cmaloney> Yep
[18:50] <cmaloney> brousch: That's where Yahoo! makes their revenue
[18:51] <cmaloney> on monetizing long-forgotten services that people still use for some odd-ball reason
[18:51] <brousch> It is so crass
[18:51] <greg-g> parenting groups are all on yahoo groups :/
[18:51] <mthx> Now I need to come up with another clever username. *sigh*
[18:51] <cmaloney> see also: my mother who insists on using Yahoo as a homepage.
[18:51] <brousch> Like every email from Gib with those damn fool ads in them
[18:51] <cmaloney> greg-g: Several RPG groups are on Yahoo! Groups.
[18:51] <cmaloney> brousch: That's juno
[18:52] <brousch> Does he know that happens?
[18:52] <cmaloney> and I swear I will pay him to stop using that fucking service.
[18:52] <cmaloney> I'll register "gibisawesome.com" and create a mail account for him if he'll agree to stop using juno
[18:53] <brousch> hehe
[18:53] <mthx> Hmm, so much fail. It requires an SMS verification to validate the account, but claims my phone number is not valid.
[18:53] <cmaloney> open offer, no expiration date
[18:54] <cmaloney> mthx: Yeah, Yahoo! is a PITA with their accounts
[18:55] <mthx> Hmm, appearently its because it's a google voice number, and that'
[18:55] <mthx> thats not supported...
[18:57] <cmaloney> Yeah, Google Voice isn't true SMS
[18:58] <cmaloney> not sure of the particulars, but it's never worked for stuff like Paypal
[18:58] <mthx> Well, I just looked at my phones carrier number for the first time.
[18:58] <cmaloney> heh
[18:59] <greg-g> wow
[19:27] <jcastro> lots of SMS things don't work with gvoice numbers
[20:10] <mrgoodcat> anybody here have any experience using/setting up apache kafka?
[20:23] <cmaloney> Saw a presentation on it at PyOhio
[20:23] <cmaloney> That's about as far as I got with it
[20:24] <cscheib> rabbitmq or activemq seem to be more popular
[20:24] <cscheib> although, that doesn't necessarily mean anything
[20:25] <derekv2> kafka is not really a competitor to rabbitmq et al
[20:25] <cmaloney> iirc it was more like Redis
[20:25] <cmaloney> in some perverse way.
[20:26] <cscheib> ah.
[20:26] <cscheib> I try to stay out of the middleware business anyway, heh
[20:26] <derekv2> it's a message queue designed to process and hold massive amounts of data for both realtime processing and offline processing
[20:27] <derekv2> the main difference is the later part.  you can replay the queue
[20:27] <cscheib> especially since in MI, most of my customers are running IBM or Oracle crap
[20:27] <cmaloney> ah, I'm misremembering then
[20:29] <derekv2> i think linkedin pushes all it's data through it
[20:29] <cmaloney> ah, I was wondering why I was only hearing magnatune tracks when I hit "Random Albums" on my Squeezebox
[20:29] <derekv2> 100% of everthing goes into kafka, then subscribers process the stream however makes sense for them
[20:29] <cmaloney> Apparently I set the library view (7.9 feature) to just the Magnatune albums
[20:30] <cmaloney> which wasn't bad, but threw me for a bit of a loop
[20:30] <cmaloney> derekv2: That makes sense
[20:31] <cmaloney> Since most of LinkedIN stuff is only private if you aren't logged in. ;)
[20:31] <derekv2> i guess the point is that any data they have just goes into it like a central bus... server logs, click information, whatever
[20:34] <derekv2> conceptually, databases already keep logs (for a bit), and a (complete) log could be used to recreate the entire state of the database,
[20:35] <derekv2> so instead we invert things and create one massive log for everything, then you can do whatever you want with it, process in realtime with storm, or push into hadoop for MR,
[20:35] <derekv2> keep the resume/profile document store updated obviously, etc et
[20:36] <derekv2> http://www.se-radio.net/2015/02/episode-219-apache-kafka-with-jun-rao/
[20:37] <derekv2> anyways i'm trying to get my head around this stuff
[20:38] <derekv2> he was saying how rabbitmq et doesn't really persist the queue
[20:38] <derekv2> kafka does
[20:39] <derekv2> mrgoodcat: anyways i haven't used it but i was reading about it
[20:41] <jrwren> derekv2: yeah, and kafka is like 10X faster than rabbitmq :)
[20:42] <jrwren> rabbitmq is much more configurable.
[20:42] <cmaloney> RabbitMQ is from a different era iirc.
[20:43] <derekv2> also relevent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU9hR3kiOK0
[20:43] <cmaloney> http://www.quora.com/RabbitMQ-vs-Kafka-which-one-for-durable-messaging-with-good-query-features
[20:43] <derekv2> though it's more about samza
[20:45] <derekv2> rabbitmq sounds like OTP
[21:00] <greg-g> between 9am and 2:30 (last 1:1 starting now) I've had a total of 25 minutes not in meetings.
[21:00] <greg-g> (pacific time, obvs)
[21:01] <rick_h_> greg-g: :)
[21:01] <greg-g> Thankfully Carrie brought me a sandwich to scarf down in the 3 minutes I had between meetins around lunch time
[21:02] <jrwren> you managers get what you ask for afaiac :p
[21:02] <greg-g> :)
[21:02] <rick_h_> the thing is you start out with only a handful of meeting
[21:02] <rick_h_> then they add on and on over time
[21:02] <greg-g> meetings beget meetings
[21:03] <rick_h_> at first I had team 1-1s, and then a manager meeting.
[21:03] <greg-g> I've started to be a bit more strict and start email threads before meetings on the topci so I can hopefully turn a meeting into an email
[21:03]  * greg-g waits patiently for his last 1:1 to show up
[21:03] <greg-g> there she is
[21:28] <greg-g> annnnnd, done
[21:29] <rick_h_> lol yay!
[21:37] <cmaloney> Woo woo
[22:26] <greg-g> ahh, lunch break