[01:12] <knome> wicked. didn't ali1234 say one of his panels are unclickable? that just happened to me as well.
[01:18] <Unit193> Yes.
[01:18] <knome> that was a rhetoric question you silly one
[09:10] <ali1234> knome: seems like a recent regression then?
[09:11] <knome> maybe
[09:11] <knome> i was doing something in thunar when this suddenly happened
[09:11] <knome> thunar froze too
[09:11] <ali1234> restarting the window manager doesn't help
[09:12] <knome> restarting the panel worked for me
[09:13] <ali1234> xwininfo indicates there isn't some invisible thing covering it
[09:13] <knome> that sounds plausible
[09:16] <ali1234> i can't see any dfference between the panels
[09:16] <knome> i only have one panel, so...
[09:18] <ali1234> changing settings on the panel doens't make any difference... even moving it to another display
[09:22] <knome> i didn't poke around much since i was in the middle of something
[09:22] <knome> but if you have things you'd like me to grab the next time i hit this...
[09:23] <knome> (if i hit it)
[10:43] <slickymasterWork> knome, ftr I'm +1 on your proposed review of the Seeds & Composition section on the Strategy Document
[10:43] <knome> ok, good
[17:44] <elfy> evening all 
[17:45] <elfy> ochosi: so - what did you end up deciding about meeting? 
[17:45] <ochosi> hey elfy 
[17:45] <elfy> hi :)
[17:49] <ochosi> i wanted to do friday, but then remembered you'r rarely available on fridays...
[17:50] <elfy> lol
[17:51] <elfy> actually normally I'm always around Friday - *this* week I'm covering 
[17:51] <elfy> don't hang meeting time on me - as long as someone "Beta should be next week" that's fine
[17:53] <elfy> that said - images are still fubar on xorg it seems
[17:53] <ochosi> oh meh :)
[17:53] <ochosi> ok
[17:55] <elfy> generally - Friday I don't work, Thursday often only mornings
[17:55] <ochosi> k, good to know
[17:55] <ochosi> not sure why i misremembered that...
[17:56] <elfy> I think we spoke last week - at which point - this Friday I'm working :)
[17:56] <ochosi> :)
[17:59] <ochosi> ok, meeting set
[17:59] <elfy> :)
[19:08] <micahg> is there a bug report for the images?
[19:08] <micahg> I can take a look a bit later
[19:23] <elfy> micahg: as far as I know - mlankhorst was looking - not just us, seems to be most, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/03/16/%23ubuntu-devel.html#t16:52
[19:24] <micahg> ah, ok
[19:24] <elfy> no xorg-server
[19:24] <micahg> hrm
[19:24] <elfy> yep
[20:49] <cseder> Hi! What's on the menu for today?
[20:51] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, since corsac has said he can't be bothered to do more 4.12 uploads, should we package them all here?
[20:52] <Noskcaj> and could i have ~xubuntu-dev access so i can put updated packages there rather than my own PPA?
[20:54] <Noskcaj> hi cseder
[20:54] <cseder> Hello there Noskcaj 
[20:55] <cseder> How is development in Xubuntu working out? Are you a fluid team?
[20:55] <elfy> only on the night of release :p
[20:55] <pleia2> some of us do drink a lot
[20:55] <cseder> Oh! That's unusual ;-)
[20:56] <cseder> Just don't go out the night BEFORE the release...
[20:56] <cseder> Personally I don't dring anyway, so it doesn't matter! ;-)
[20:57] <cseder> drink
[20:57] <cseder> sounded drunk there
[20:58] <knome> cseder, you'd really be better off at #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:58] <elfy> cseder: if it's all wrong the night before release - the best time to drink ... 
[21:01] <cseder> I was thinking about joining the development team knome, but if you insist, I'll go my merry own way
[21:01] <knome> cseder, don't get me wrong, feel free to hang around here as well, but if you want to talk about drinking this isn't the right place
[21:01] <knome> (besides, blackmailing not going to work...)
[21:02] <cseder> I think there's a link to my LinkedIn page over at Launchpad... Same nickname
[21:02] <Noskcaj> cseder, Joining the team is less formal than that. contributions = part of the team now
[21:02] <cseder> I have Andrej Stepanov on my contact list ;-)
[21:03] <cseder> Or was it Alexander
[21:04] <pleia2> I don't know who that is, but feel free to jump into dev discussions as you can
[21:04] <elfy> for sure
[21:04] <pleia2> signing up for the mailing list is also valuable
[21:04] <cseder> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Stepanov
[21:04] <elfy> knome: and it was that bad goblin that started the drinking talk 
[21:04] <knome> cseder, xubuntu is very meritocratic; so instead of telling who you know, why don't you tell what you want to do to help us?
[21:04] <knome> elfy, tut tut!
[21:05] <cseder> knome: Who gave you piss to drink for dinner today?
[21:05] <knome> cseder, calm down
[21:05] <cseder> I like to brag a little, so do you.
[21:05] <knome> feel free to do that - elsewhere
[21:05] <cseder> Everybody does.
[21:05]  * ObrienDave pays attention
[21:05] <knome> at least until you prove us you are really willing to help, not just brag..
[21:06] <cseder> I get that. 
[21:06] <cseder> This is my first meeting with you guys, so I kinda get a feeling for how the tone is around here.
[21:07] <elfy> generally laid back
[21:07] <elfy> but -offtopic is better to get to know people 
[21:07] <knome> cseder, just remember your tone affects our tone...
[21:07] <cseder> That's a good position.
[21:07] <cseder> Well. Now look who's talking, eh?
[21:08] <cseder> ;-)
[21:10] <elfy> micahg: apparently this https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-vesa/+bug/1432899
[21:10] <cseder> The thing is: I don't have very much time to offer, but I would like to learn more about how an open source community functions, learn more about using the tools you do, and learn to be a better programmer.
[21:10] <elfy> or at least that's current
[21:10] <cseder> I've only worked for commercial companies.
[21:12] <cseder> I've like never ever participated in an open source project before, I don't even know how to use other code repository tools than TFS! :-p
[21:13] <cseder> But I've been using Linux since 1996.
[21:13] <Noskcaj> cseder, What programming language do you know?
[21:13] <Noskcaj> But i suggest you start by finding something you use often, and testing or fixing a bug in it
[21:13] <cseder> Mainly C, and C++. 
[21:14] <cseder> Some Python.
[21:14] <Noskcaj> Which is what most of xfce is in, that helps
[21:14] <Noskcaj> and most of ubuntu's scripts are python
[21:15] <cseder> But the time is an issue. I'll start with joining the mailing lists, then browse through some of the bugs and code, and see what I could make out of it
[21:15] <Noskcaj> I've got to go to school now, someone else should be able to answer any questions you have
[21:15] <Noskcaj> sounds good
[21:15] <Noskcaj> anything you can do helps us
[21:16] <cseder> Ok. Study hard.
[21:18] <cseder> There is probably a bit to read through regarding how the dev process works and how to do what. Guess I find my way around in the documentation for the developers.
[21:55] <cseder> Ok, see you guys later. Gotta go...
[22:30] <elfy> caught ...